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<projectgus> |
mozzwald: I was just looking at your openwrt-zipit-packages, is there areason why you didn't fork from qi-openwrt-packages ? |
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<projectgus> |
I ask because now there's no way for me to pull changes from you into my package feed, and there's no way for you to pull changes from qi-openwrt-packages into your package feed |
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<projectgus> |
and I'd really like to be able to do that |
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<projectgus> |
I can scrap my qi- repository and fork from you, the only catch then is that you've coped in all the qi- packages and if they make fixes upstream, then there's no easy way to incorporate them |
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<projectgus> |
also anarsoul has a fork via qi- that he's actively working on, too |
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<projectgus> |
mozzwald: for now I've git cherry-picked your changes into my fork of the qi- packages. which is not really a good solution but it keeps your history data across the trees |
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<projectgus> |
I also tried to merge from qi and noticed about 50% of their recent changes are no use to us |
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<projectgus> |
so I'm not entirely against swapping and starting our own repository based on yours, provided anarsoul is in as well |
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<projectgus> |
I think it's silly for us to stay forked like we are now though, given there are so few people working on openwrt zipit packages to begin with |
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<projectgus> |
btw I just pushed an openwrt-zipit update to kernel 3.3, is building now to upload to chainxor.org |
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<projectgus> |
it also picks up lots of architectural changes from openwrt trunk, although shouldn't make any big difference for us |
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<projectgus> |
hey anarsoul |
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<anarsoul> |
hi projectgus |
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<projectgus> |
fyi, i just pushed a 3.3 kernel for openwrt-zipit and the last few months of openwrt changes |
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<projectgus> |
everything seems to still work, tested usb/sound/pm/wifi |
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<anarsoul> |
ok, cool |
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<projectgus> |
I was also thinking of moving most of the target/linux/pxa/zipit/base-files/ stuff to a zipit-files package |
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anarsoul 's waiting for 3.4 kernel in openwrt :) |
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<projectgus> |
and also having zipit-files depend on gmenu2x, mouse-emul, the kmod- packages for usb, sound, etc. |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: I've packaged some stuff for zipit aswell, netsurf, fheroes2 |
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<projectgus> |
so that way if you build with zipit-files then you get a full system, if you build without then you get a much thinner barebones system |
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<projectgus> |
depending on what you want as a base |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: ok, cool, will take a look |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: I saw, looks good. I pulled your changes as well :) |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: I haven't actually made the zipit-files changes yet, just thinking about it |
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<anarsoul> |
ah, did not read accurate enough, sorry :) |
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<anarsoul> |
busy with taking screenshots from fheroes2 |
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<anarsoul> |
:P |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: did you try openwrt led stuff for zipit? |
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<projectgus> |
no |
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<anarsoul> |
it's possible to use wifi led for wifi activity |
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<projectgus> |
oh neat, I hadn't seen that "config led" section before |
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<projectgus> |
will put it on my todo list |
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<anarsoul> |
just add this into /etc/config/system: http://dpaste.org/jO2yk/ |
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<projectgus> |
nice work if you got netsurf working properly though, I got it to load up but I never got around to sorting all the key bindings and stuff - so I think you could browse to a web site but you couldn't go Back or Quit |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: oh, neat. nice and simple. |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: works OK for me, just pull latest qi-openwrt-packages (or whatever it is) |
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<projectgus> |
oh, I'm sure you sorted it fine... I'm just saying nice work for doing that :) |
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<projectgus> |
also, I was talking to mozzwald before because I noticed he's got an openwrt-zipit-packages repo on github |
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<anarsoul> |
there's back/forward and quit buttons |
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<projectgus> |
which doesn't share any history with the qi-openwrt-packages, although he's copied all those packages in |
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<projectgus> |
I just out-of-tree cherry-picked all his changes into qi-openwrt-packages to keep things up to date |
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<projectgus> |
but I also noticed most of the upstream changes from qi aren't much use, so maybe we should all switch to work from zipit-openwrt-packages tree ? |
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<projectgus> |
do you have any thoughts? |
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<projectgus> |
bbl |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: yep, qi-openwrt-packages should be dropped |
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<anarsoul> |
most of them are too nanonote-specific (scummvm makefile had mipsel-stuff hardcoded in it!) |
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<projectgus> |
alright, I'll fork mozzwald's zipit-openwrt-packages and bring it up to date |
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<anarsoul> |
just pushed new stuff to my qi-openwrt-packages |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: alright, I'll cherry-pick it all into zipit-openwrt-packages |
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<projectgus> |
do you have any more changes in the pipeline? |
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<anarsoul> |
I've moved to gcc-4.6, so there're some compile fixes |
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<anarsoul> |
yep, working on pushing it :) |
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<projectgus> |
ok |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: take a look on libiconv-full change, original one drops almost all encoding (including cyrillic), I've removed this change |
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<anarsoul> |
because it breaks netsurf for me (it can't decode cp1251 properly, so it can't event render google.com :)) |
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<anarsoul> |
looks like that's all... |
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<anarsoul> |
there's also compile fix for mklibs, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed in upstream openwrt |
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<anarsoul> |
and I don't want to pull it right now |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: where's the libiconv-full change? can't see it in the merge I did from upstream openwrt |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: it's in openwrt-packages |
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<anarsoul> |
(I'm using my own repo instead of upstream one) |
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<projectgus> |
oh ok |
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<projectgus> |
my nightly build system pulls from upstream then from yours, so it should actually work OK on that |
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<projectgus> |
I don't have my own fork of the main openwrt-packages |
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<anarsoul> |
http://anarsoul.blogspot.com/2012/06/fheroes2-on-zipit.html :) |
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<projectgus> |
just cherry-picked everything new from qi- into https://github.com/projectgus/openwrt-zipit-packages |
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<projectgus> |
nice blog post :) |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: do we need all this packages? I really doubt that anyone compiled qt4 stuff for zipit :) |
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<anarsoul> |
same for ben-wpan |
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<anarsoul> |
alex4 will not work on zipit at all, because allegro does not support rotation on fb |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: my default keymappings for mouse-emul are here: http://anarsoul.blogspot.com/2012/05/recently-i-added-scummvm-mplayer-for.html |
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<anarsoul> |
they can be changed easily, mouse-emulrc (updated one) now uses symbolic names for keys, i.e. KEY_Q, or KEY_END |
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<anarsoul> |
projectgus: btw, please also pull changes from openwrt-zipit/target/linux/pxa/zipitz2/base-files, at least mouse-emul config |
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anarsoul afk |
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<projectgus> |
anarsoul: true, I just forked what mozzwald pulled which I think is just all the qi- stuff |
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<projectgus> |
I think it's worth keeping qt4 if it builds & is qt-embedded, though |
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<_unreal_> |
hello |
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<anarsoul> |
hi |
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<_unreal_> |
figured id stop in |
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<_unreal_> |
i think i have finally figured out what im gouing to use one of my zipits for.. |
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<_unreal_> |
because im planning on building a 20' sailboat |
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<_unreal_> |
i want to use one of the zipits for open street maps/gmapcacher etc.... add a usb/lcd/touch screen usb gps. it can be backup nav. media and security all in one |
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<elcaset> |
From ixquick-ing (search engine) the internet, I see no signs of anyone installing Android on the zipit2. Anyone in here hear of this? |
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<anarsoul> |
elcaset: android will not work on 32mb ram |
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<elcaset> |
anarsoul: Thanks. I finally got a definitive answer to that question. |
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<anarsoul> |
elcaset: well, you can try with swap :) |
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<elcaset> |
anarsoul: hmm. interesting. Might not even be horribly slow, since the swap is on an SD card! |
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<wej> |
swap on sd card is a bad idea, especially if it is heavily used (as it would be in the case of android on a device with only 32 mb of ram) |
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<projectgus> |
I don't think it'd get much use, because it'd never boot successfully! |
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<wej> |
lol, yeah |
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<projectgus> |
btw, http://chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit built last night from openwrt-zipit-packages & the new upstream openwrt, with kernel 3.3.7 |
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<projectgus> |
if anyone wants shiny new things to break their zipit with :P |
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<wej> |
nice :) |
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<projectgus> |
mozzwald: you can ignore all the previous discussions about package repos, seems everyone (well, me & anarsoul) agrees on "your" openwrt-zipit-packages as a good approach |
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<projectgus> |
so I'll be deleting my fork of qi-openwrt-packages in a few days |
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<projectgus> |
I also started a dosbox package, so that'll be fun |
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<elcaset> |
how folks in here are using debian on Zipit2? |
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<elcaset> |
sorry, meant to say how many folks in here are using debian on Zipit2? |
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<djohngo> |
anyone know of a dropbox-like service that will work with one of these doohickies? |
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<mozzwald> |
projectgus: ok. i thought it migjt be a good idea but it will be some work too i guess keeping up with updates |
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<mozzwald> |
elcaset: not too many nowadays but it works |
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<mozzwald> |
djohngo: not aware of any. if you google open source dropbox clone you may get some ideas |
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<mozzwald> |
not sure if it works on ziput but theres a kernel module that watches filesystem for changes and can auto rsync changes with some scripts |
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<mozzwald> |
back to work... |
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<djohngo> |
mozzwald: Yeah. Since I only really only need to keep some dotfiles synced across devices, I can probably get away with using curl. |
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<projectgus> |
mozzwald: 90% of the updates the qi people push are no use on zipit anyhow |
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<projectgus> |
so it makes more sense to cherry-pick their commits occasionally into our own set of zipit specific stuff |
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<projectgus> |
I think |
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