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[04:02:36] <projectgus> mozzwald: I was just looking at your openwrt-zipit-packages, is there areason why you didn't fork from qi-openwrt-packages ?
[04:02:55] <projectgus> I ask because now there's no way for me to pull changes from you into my package feed, and there's no way for you to pull changes from qi-openwrt-packages into your package feed
[04:03:12] <projectgus> and I'd really like to be able to do that
[04:15:10] <projectgus> I can scrap my qi- repository and fork from you, the only catch then is that you've coped in all the qi- packages and if they make fixes upstream, then there's no easy way to incorporate them
[04:21:14] <projectgus> also anarsoul has a fork via qi- that he's actively working on, too
[04:45:19] <projectgus> mozzwald: for now I've git cherry-picked your changes into my fork of the qi- packages. which is not really a good solution but it keeps your history data across the trees
[04:45:32] <projectgus> I also tried to merge from qi and noticed about 50% of their recent changes are no use to us
[04:45:46] <projectgus> so I'm not entirely against swapping and starting our own repository based on yours, provided anarsoul is in as well
[04:46:07] <projectgus> I think it's silly for us to stay forked like we are now though, given there are so few people working on openwrt zipit packages to begin with
[04:47:03] <projectgus> btw I just pushed an openwrt-zipit update to kernel 3.3, is building now to upload to chainxor.org
[04:47:30] <projectgus> it also picks up lots of architectural changes from openwrt trunk, although shouldn't make any big difference for us
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[05:07:51] <projectgus> hey anarsoul
[05:08:02] <anarsoul> hi projectgus
[05:08:23] <projectgus> fyi, i just pushed a 3.3 kernel for openwrt-zipit and the last few months of openwrt changes
[05:08:38] <projectgus> everything seems to still work, tested usb/sound/pm/wifi
[05:08:59] <anarsoul> ok, cool
[05:09:05] <projectgus> I was also thinking of moving most of the target/linux/pxa/zipit/base-files/ stuff to a zipit-files package
[05:09:14] * anarsoul 's waiting for 3.4 kernel in openwrt :)
[05:09:48] <projectgus> and also having zipit-files depend on gmenu2x, mouse-emul, the kmod- packages for usb, sound, etc.
[05:09:57] <anarsoul> projectgus: I've packaged some stuff for zipit aswell, netsurf, fheroes2
[05:10:20] <projectgus> so that way if you build with zipit-files then you get a full system, if you build without then you get a much thinner barebones system
[05:10:24] <projectgus> depending on what you want as a base
[05:10:35] <anarsoul> projectgus: ok, cool, will take a look
[05:10:36] <projectgus> anarsoul: I saw, looks good. I pulled your changes as well :)
[05:10:50] <projectgus> anarsoul: I haven't actually made the zipit-files changes yet, just thinking about it
[05:11:36] <anarsoul> ah, did not read accurate enough, sorry :)
[05:11:44] <anarsoul> busy with taking screenshots from fheroes2
[05:11:45] <anarsoul> :P
[05:12:48] <anarsoul> projectgus: did you try openwrt led stuff for zipit?
[05:13:00] <projectgus> no
[05:13:03] <anarsoul> it's possible to use wifi led for wifi activity
[05:13:49] <projectgus> oh neat, I hadn't seen that "config led" section before
[05:13:52] <projectgus> will put it on my todo list
[05:15:40] <anarsoul> just add this into /etc/config/system: http://dpaste.org/jO2yk/
[05:16:11] <projectgus> nice work if you got netsurf working properly though, I got it to load up but I never got around to sorting all the key bindings and stuff - so I think you could browse to a web site but you couldn't go Back or Quit
[05:16:40] <projectgus> anarsoul: oh, neat. nice and simple.
[05:17:21] <anarsoul> projectgus: works OK for me, just pull latest qi-openwrt-packages (or whatever it is)
[05:17:41] <projectgus> oh, I'm sure you sorted it fine... I'm just saying nice work for doing that :)
[05:18:11] <projectgus> also, I was talking to mozzwald before because I noticed he's got an openwrt-zipit-packages repo on github
[05:18:21] <anarsoul> there's back/forward and quit buttons
[05:18:22] <projectgus> which doesn't share any history with the qi-openwrt-packages, although he's copied all those packages in
[05:18:56] <projectgus> I just out-of-tree cherry-picked all his changes into qi-openwrt-packages to keep things up to date
[05:19:31] <projectgus> but I also noticed most of the upstream changes from qi aren't much use, so maybe we should all switch to work from zipit-openwrt-packages tree ?
[05:19:37] <projectgus> do you have any thoughts?
[05:19:38] <projectgus> bbl
[05:20:40] <anarsoul> projectgus: yep, qi-openwrt-packages should be dropped
[05:21:08] <anarsoul> most of them are too nanonote-specific (scummvm makefile had mipsel-stuff hardcoded in it!)
[05:34:08] <projectgus> alright, I'll fork mozzwald's zipit-openwrt-packages and bring it up to date
[05:36:14] <anarsoul> just pushed new stuff to my qi-openwrt-packages
[05:36:30] <projectgus> anarsoul: alright, I'll cherry-pick it all into zipit-openwrt-packages
[05:36:36] <projectgus> do you have any more changes in the pipeline?
[05:36:37] <anarsoul> I've moved to gcc-4.6, so there're some compile fixes
[05:36:51] <anarsoul> yep, working on pushing it :)
[05:36:59] <projectgus> ok
[05:37:31] <anarsoul> projectgus: take a look on libiconv-full change, original one drops almost all encoding (including cyrillic), I've removed this change
[05:38:10] <anarsoul> because it breaks netsurf for me (it can't decode cp1251 properly, so it can't event render google.com :))
[05:39:55] <anarsoul> looks like that's all...
[05:40:10] <anarsoul> there's also compile fix for mklibs, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed in upstream openwrt
[05:40:18] <anarsoul> and I don't want to pull it right now
[05:42:03] <projectgus> anarsoul: where's the libiconv-full change? can't see it in the merge I did from upstream openwrt
[05:42:17] <anarsoul> projectgus: it's in openwrt-packages
[05:42:28] <anarsoul> (I'm using my own repo instead of upstream one)
[05:43:21] <projectgus> oh ok
[05:43:33] <projectgus> my nightly build system pulls from upstream then from yours, so it should actually work OK on that
[05:43:39] <projectgus> I don't have my own fork of the main openwrt-packages
[05:50:40] <anarsoul> http://anarsoul.blogspot.com/2012/06/fheroes2-on-zipit.html :)
[05:55:00] <projectgus> just cherry-picked everything new from qi- into https://github.com/projectgus/openwrt-zipit-packages
[05:55:33] <projectgus> nice blog post :)
[05:56:11] <anarsoul> projectgus: do we need all this packages? I really doubt that anyone compiled qt4 stuff for zipit :)
[05:56:34] <anarsoul> same for ben-wpan
[05:57:06] <anarsoul> alex4 will not work on zipit at all, because allegro does not support rotation on fb
[05:58:11] <anarsoul> projectgus: my default keymappings for mouse-emul are here: http://anarsoul.blogspot.com/2012/05/recently-i-added-scummvm-mplayer-for.html
[05:59:21] <anarsoul> they can be changed easily, mouse-emulrc (updated one) now uses symbolic names for keys, i.e. KEY_Q, or KEY_END
[06:08:06] <anarsoul> projectgus: btw, please also pull changes from openwrt-zipit/target/linux/pxa/zipitz2/base-files, at least mouse-emul config
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[06:12:45] <projectgus> anarsoul: true, I just forked what mozzwald pulled which I think is just all the qi- stuff
[06:12:54] <projectgus> I think it's worth keeping qt4 if it builds & is qt-embedded, though
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[13:22:19] <_unreal_> hello
[13:28:41] <anarsoul> hi
[13:29:22] <_unreal_> figured id stop in
[13:30:00] <_unreal_> i think i have finally figured out what im gouing to use one of my zipits for..
[13:30:34] <_unreal_> because im planning on building a 20' sailboat
[13:32:25] <_unreal_> i want to use one of the zipits for open street maps/gmapcacher etc.... add a usb/lcd/touch screen usb gps. it can be backup nav. media and security all in one
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[16:19:41] <elcaset> From ixquick-ing (search engine) the internet, I see no signs of anyone installing Android on the zipit2. Anyone in here hear of this?
[16:24:03] <anarsoul> elcaset: android will not work on 32mb ram
[16:25:46] <elcaset> anarsoul: Thanks. I finally got a definitive answer to that question.
[16:26:31] <anarsoul> elcaset: well, you can try with swap :)
[16:27:45] <elcaset> anarsoul: hmm. interesting. Might not even be horribly slow, since the swap is on an SD card!
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[19:47:58] <wej> swap on sd card is a bad idea, especially if it is heavily used (as it would be in the case of android on a device with only 32 mb of ram)
[19:48:43] <projectgus> I don't think it'd get much use, because it'd never boot successfully!
[19:49:00] <wej> lol, yeah
[19:50:41] <projectgus> btw, http://chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit built last night from openwrt-zipit-packages & the new upstream openwrt, with kernel 3.3.7
[19:50:59] <projectgus> if anyone wants shiny new things to break their zipit with :P
[19:51:25] <wej> nice :)
[19:52:08] <projectgus> mozzwald: you can ignore all the previous discussions about package repos, seems everyone (well, me & anarsoul) agrees on "your" openwrt-zipit-packages as a good approach
[19:52:16] <projectgus> so I'll be deleting my fork of qi-openwrt-packages in a few days
[19:52:52] <projectgus> I also started a dosbox package, so that'll be fun
[20:07:25] <elcaset> how folks in here are using debian on Zipit2?
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[20:13:17] <elcaset> sorry, meant to say how many folks in here are using debian on Zipit2?
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[21:38:45] <djohngo> anyone know of a dropbox-like service that will work with one of these doohickies?
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[21:54:58] <mozzwald> projectgus: ok. i thought it migjt be a good idea but it will be some work too i guess keeping up with updates
[21:56:33] <mozzwald> elcaset: not too many nowadays but it works
[21:59:26] <mozzwald> djohngo: not aware of any. if you google open source dropbox clone you may get some ideas
[22:01:28] <mozzwald> not sure if it works on ziput but theres a kernel module that watches filesystem for changes and can auto rsync changes with some scripts
[22:01:50] <mozzwald> back to work...
[22:10:20] <djohngo> mozzwald: Yeah. Since I only really only need to keep some dotfiles synced across devices, I can probably get away with using curl.
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[22:41:39] <projectgus> mozzwald: 90% of the updates the qi people push are no use on zipit anyhow
[22:41:53] <projectgus> so it makes more sense to cherry-pick their commits occasionally into our own set of zipit specific stuff
[22:41:56] <projectgus> I think
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