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<ssieb> |
slug_: Java != JavaScript |
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<elcaset_> |
Java does not = Javascript. |
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<ang> |
rkdavis, i don't know, but please let me know if you find out :) |
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<ParkerR> |
'lo ssieb |
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<slug_> |
yes, I'm well aware that Java and Javascript are not the same, I don't bother with Java, ever! |
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<jake23> |
hola |
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<geordy> |
yo |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis, you around? |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald maybe? |
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<geordy> |
What's the latest/best root fs for a ubooted zipit? |
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<geordy> |
jake23 what are you trying to do with your zipits anyhow? |
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<geordy> |
you know the wifi can't do monitor mode, right? |
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<jake23> |
i am currently trying to move the backed up wireless .bin files onto my sd card, but they are not persistant when i put the sd card into the zipit and boot |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: partially |
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<rkdavis> |
was napping |
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<geordy> |
heheh long time man |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<geordy> |
still playing with your army of zipits or have you completely moved on to raspberry pi? |
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<jake23> |
i am currently running the aliosa27 2gb image |
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<rkdavis> |
still mess with the zipits |
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<geordy> |
jake23: that's about the oldest image imaginable |
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<geordy> |
aliosa27 haven't been playing with his zipit for like 2 years now I think |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: who has the newest images and instructions? |
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<geordy> |
aside from building a damned toolchain and all that shit |
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<geordy> |
I know mozzwald was running openwrt but is there an x package for that yet? |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald for uboot/openwrt & deeice for stock i believe |
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<geordy> |
are you still deving your image? |
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<rkdavis> |
on occasion but not for a couple of months as been doing kinect stuff atm |
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<geordy> |
hmmm... what are you doing with it? You haven't been sharing with your faithful blog readers :-P |
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<rkdavis> |
face recognition |
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<geordy> |
ah |
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<geordy> |
I need to scrounge up $800... |
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<rkdavis> |
but got some xmpp stuff on the goo oo |
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<rkdavis> |
but have located a stash of 250 unopened zipits |
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<rkdavis> |
so mulling whether to get them or not |
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<geordy> |
lol you horder |
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<geordy> |
I need this http://www.amazon.com/Sony-HMZ-T1-Wearable-HDTV-2D/dp/B005SCYZGA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2OMRTHMUP7OZ8&colid=1HWBB3P9G1AMJ |
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<geordy> |
that + kinnect... |
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<geordy> |
I just wish it was much cheaper |
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<rkdavis> |
yeah i didn't pay for the kinect but it was $250 as it's the windows ver |
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<rkdavis> |
it's nice but 250 is a lot |
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<geordy> |
didn't know there was a windows version |
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<rkdavis> |
bbiab have to go get a new prepaid amex card to pay for a raspberry pi |
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<geordy> |
lol |
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<geordy> |
alrighty |
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<mozzwald> |
geordy: openwrt is the latest and greatest |
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<geordy> |
any X for it yet? |
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<mozzwald> |
no, but we have gmenu2x :) |
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<jake23> |
after i get moved over to u-boot, id like to find an image that has wifi working out of the box |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/kinectforwindows/develop/overview.aspx |
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<mozzwald> |
and anarsoul was working on some new window manager |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald rkdavis do you still have to manually move wireless drivers around? |
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<rkdavis> |
bbiab |
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<geordy> |
didn't that shit get opensourced by broadcom finally? |
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<geordy> |
where it could be compiled into the kernel |
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<mozzwald> |
wireless should work after you set up you access points |
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<mozzwald> |
no firmware copying needed |
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<geordy> |
ya I thought so |
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<mozzwald> |
I would recommend slug's in flash image.. it has lots of goodies and gui based wifi setup |
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<geordy> |
link? |
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<mozzwald> |
http://blog.engine12.com/?p=460 |
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<geordy> |
and this is the best openwrt link, right? http://www.chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/ |
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<mozzwald> |
anarsoul was working on this for zipit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xynth |
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<geordy> |
that looks pretty sweet |
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<mozzwald> |
chainxor site is projectgus' original port |
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<mozzwald> |
slug's is based on it |
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<geordy> |
ah, so slug's includes openwrt? I thought it was just the graphical interface |
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<mozzwald> |
well, all the openwrt releases are based on it :) |
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<mozzwald> |
slug's rootfs is openwrt but tweaked to be gui friendly |
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<geordy> |
nice! |
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<geordy> |
and I notice they are still using our little ewoc script ;-) |
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<mozzwald> |
modified, but yep :) |
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<mozzwald> |
it's nice not needed an sd card with the in flash image.. but it's also nice to be able to install packages to a card with overlayfs |
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<geordy> |
so you can actually install this image on the system flash then? |
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<geordy> |
like a stock os |
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<mozzwald> |
yep |
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<geordy> |
do you still have uboot then or does it blow it out? |
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<mozzwald> |
uboot is still there |
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<geordy> |
neat |
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<geordy> |
how much flash do these have for openwrt then? |
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<mozzwald> |
the flash partitions are resized and openwrt resides in a jffs2 partition |
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<mozzwald> |
I forget, but I think it's around 6 |
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<geordy> |
sounds tight |
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<geordy> |
at least compared to my wrt54g's |
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<geordy> |
but I guess if you can use a card, it doesn't matter much |
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<geordy> |
I'm totally going to have to pull out my zipit again to mess with |
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<geordy> |
I saw you had a gameboy emu running... |
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<geordy> |
does this thing have enough grunt for NES? |
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<geordy> |
slug_'s ears were burning |
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<mozzwald> |
i haven't tried nes, but would like to at some point. gameboy color roms are a little slow even when overclocked |
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<geordy> |
eww |
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<slug_> |
what's up? |
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<geordy> |
that's what is annoying about arm.... |
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<geordy> |
slug_: we were just talking about your openwrt image |
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<slug_> |
ah, yeah try it out |
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<jake23> |
i will be as soon as i get home from work |
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<geordy> |
I'm running any NES rom I like on my libretto (pentium 75mhz) NO problem at all |
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<jake23> |
i want to get my zipits up to the latest and greatest, (and with wifi)... |
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<geordy> |
so why a 300mhz arm couldn't keep up is beyond me |
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<geordy> |
jake23: there are a LOT of kickass packages for openwrt so it's kind of a good place to go anyhow |
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<geordy> |
idk how much you've looked through the repos... |
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<jake23> |
ive worked with openwrt for some time |
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<jake23> |
and it looks like the openwrt image for zipit comes with a gui? |
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<geordy> |
slug's does |
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<jake23> |
that is this link? http://www.chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/ |
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<geordy> |
not that chainxor link |
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<geordy> |
no |
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<geordy> |
http://blog.engine12.com/?p=460 |
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<geordy> |
that |
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<geordy> |
that's the perpetual problem with zipit dev... we are a scattered bunch |
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<jake23> |
ive noticed that |
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<mozzwald> |
scattered, but we're all here in this channel :) |
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<slug_> |
It's more consolidated now though than it ever was... we at least have github accounts and commit changes on occasion |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald: exactly |
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<jake23> |
geordy: is your blob to u-boot post still valid, or is there something new/easy? |
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<geordy> |
my shit is WAAAAAY outdated... guys, where are the latest uboot instructions? |
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<mozzwald> |
jake23: you currently have blob and aliosa's image? |
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<jake23> |
correct |
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<jake23> |
i also have another z2 that is stock |
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<mozzwald> |
jake23: http://mozzwald.com/node/107 but use latest z2uflasher (with openwrt recovery) http://mozzwald.com/zipit/openwrt/z2uflasher_openwrt_20111127.tar.bz2 |
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<slug_> |
rkdavis: don't you want to use the kinect with an ARM running linux? |
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<mozzwald> |
use the latest flashstock if the zipit is stock http://mozzwald.com/download |
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<geordy> |
you should just update that link mozz :-P |
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<mozzwald> |
I should do a lot of things, but I'm lazy :P |
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<mozzwald> |
..or busy.. not sure which |
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<geordy> |
ya, me too :-D |
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<geordy> |
my blog is getting neglected :( |
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<jake23> |
so... this is slugs img? http://blog.engine12.com/?p=460 |
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<mozzwald> |
yup |
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<slug_> |
here's the directory of the different versions --> http://engine12.com/files/gmenu-zipit/ |
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<jake23> |
i think its all coming together now |
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<jake23> |
im downloading and preparing everything for when i get home tonight |
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<geordy> |
shoulda just brought your zipit to work jake, no one woulda noticed... |
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<slug_> |
the latest version #11 has the bash history enabled, you may or may not like that |
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<jake23> |
thats what i just pulled down |
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<jake23> |
rc11 |
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<slug_> |
it also enables multicasting, which is very cool on a mesh network |
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<jake23> |
sweet |
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<jake23> |
i want to get this nice and ready, then do a talk with everyone at the lodge to setup mesh networking for everyone that is going to toorcamp |
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<geordy> |
heh.. the true motice |
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<jake23> |
its going to be sweet |
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<jake23> |
also, i need to get more z2's from salt |
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<jake23> |
like 10 more of them |
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<slug_> |
ah, are you guys with gslug? |
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<Salt> |
jake23, kay |
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<jake23> |
im with Black Lodge Research, and we also host the dc206 meetings, we have a few people here that are also gsluggers |
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<jake23> |
Salt: boom. |
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<Salt> |
all the clusters |
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<jake23> |
how many more do you have (non-assrape-ebay price |
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<jake23> |
) |
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<Salt> |
i need to send out an email to the gslug list about how i can't make it this month |
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<Salt> |
i still have some, ordering more at the non-assrape-ebay price |
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<jake23> |
how big is your new order? |
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<Salt> |
as big as you want it ;) |
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<jake23> |
lol nice. |
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<jake23> |
im thinking of getting 6-10 more |
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<Salt> |
sweet |
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<Salt> |
i'm hoping to find time to play with mine |
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<Salt> |
it's still in the plastic v_v |
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<Salt> |
atm i'm trying to make my dc budget |
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<jake23> |
im going to find out tonight how well i can figure out allthese new sites... |
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<slug_> |
Salt: is the gslug meeting open to new comers, I haven't been able to find any info on the organization, the websites not working very well |
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<Salt> |
yes |
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<geordy> |
slug_ I forgot you're a local here anren't you? |
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<Salt> |
very open |
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<slug_> |
yep, still here in woodinville |
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<Salt> |
and yeah, i know about the site |
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<Salt> |
it's been a major headache the last couple months |
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<Salt> |
the person hosting it is MIA |
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<Salt> |
and there are a variety of major ugprades i want to do to it |
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<Salt> |
but alas my free time is such that i'm not even going to make this months meeting |
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<slug_> |
maybe someone could send me an invite with info on the location and time to my email? I'd like to attend. Linux is all I do anymore |
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<Salt> |
slug_, yeah...i'm not sure atm, we are having what you might call technical difficulties v_v |
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<Salt> |
i really need to get back to work but please bug me later and i'll find the direct link to the mailing list, also i'll send that email about this month... |
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<slug_> |
someone on here mentioned buying a bunch of zipits for the gslug meeting, how did it go? or is the meeting still upcoming? |
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<Salt> |
went alright, i still have a few that havent been delivered, doing another order] |
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<jake23> |
is there a pinout for the plug around the 3.5mm audio jack? |
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<ParkerR> |
jake23, http://mozzwald.com/node/37 |
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<ParkerR> |
The pdf from the page http://www.singatron.com.tw/userfiles/images_B1/2SJ-3545-T01.pdf |
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<ParkerR> |
jake23, Also http://bealecorner.org/best/measure/z2/z2-connector-pinout-2011.txt |
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<ParkerR> |
About half way down |
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<Salt> |
slug_, https://groups.google.com/a/aoeu.com/group/gslug-announce/topics |
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<Salt> |
https://groups.google.com/a/aoeu.com/group/gslug-general/topics |
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<slug_> |
Salt:thx |
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<jake23> |
ParkerR: thanks |
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<deeice> |
jake23 and geordy: If you still have stock zipits maybe you could test this? http://macrofig.blogspot.com/ |
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<deeice> |
It should be sorta equivalent to slug's openwrt jffs image, except for the stock kernel and blob. |
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<deeice> |
It'd be nice to get some feedback on it before everyone changes over all their zipits to uboot. |
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<jake23> |
deeice: what in particular on that site should i look at? |
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<deeice> |
Well the latest jffs image is at the end of the memorial day post. The older posts have some nice pictures of earlier versions. |
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<jake23> |
at some point it like to get psp maps going on one of mine |
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<deeice> |
pspmaps is nice on the stock zipit. I think I saw someone was building it for openwrt. Shouldn't be too difficult. |
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<slug_> |
sd cards are more likely to work with deeice's jffs too |
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<jake23> |
i will (hopefully) be getting mine "up to snuff" tonight, and then i will get started on some ideas for "addons" |
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<jake23> |
(hardware addons) |
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<jake23> |
i was also thinking about picking up one of those "nanonotes" if i can find one for cheap |
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<slug_> |
jake23: just get more zipits, nanotes are mips without wifi |
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<jake23> |
gotcha |
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<jake23> |
also part of my evil plan |
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<Embalmed> |
man i should have been paying attention |
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<Embalmed> |
copy pasting this discussion to my email for my 2 stock zipits |
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<Embalmed> |
can you still load side-track on these guys or is it better to just go with the openwrt. I know adrian quit supporting side-track |
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<geordy> |
Embalmed: you can still load sidetrack if you really want to |
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<geordy> |
but it's usefulness is limited |
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<geordy> |
I'd suggest just moving to the latest and greatest |
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<Embalmed> |
i'm not sure what i'd use an openwrt zipit for |
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<geordy> |
anything you'd use sidetrack for |
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<geordy> |
openwrt's packages are actually updated |
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<geordy> |
and most of the stuff in sidetrack is available in openwrt |
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<Embalmed> |
is there a web browser and say pidgin with otr? |
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<geordy> |
the web browsing capabilities of this thing are pretty limited in the first place |
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<geordy> |
think 1st gen smartphone |
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<geordy> |
remember you don't have a real mouse |
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<geordy> |
it's much better as at text/CLI stuff |
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<geordy> |
as far as IM, I don't know since I've never bothered other than IRC |
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<Embalmed> |
i haven't played with it much, just took out of the box and charged it lol |
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<geordy> |
Adrian hasn't touched sidetrack in two years since he first released it |
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<geordy> |
plus it used the flawed stock kernel |
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<Embalmed> |
i know i read that. them still suggested it though |
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<geordy> |
them is silly :-D |
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<geordy> |
side track was my favorite for a while... |
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<Embalmed> |
i really want IM with encryption |
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<geordy> |
then I moved on to open embedded |
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<Embalmed> |
and pentesty tools, thats all i care about |
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<geordy> |
this is old as shit too but still interesting... http://www.notanon.com/zipit/different-linux-distributions-for-the-zipit-z2/2010/05/30/ |
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<Embalmed> |
yeah that's your blog right? i was reading this last weekend |
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<geordy> |
ya |
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<Embalmed> |
i was planning on using mozzwald's ubuntu |
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<Embalmed> |
but it looked like that too is not being updated |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald has moved on to openwrt |
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<geordy> |
that's kinda how the zipit community rolls |
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<geordy> |
it's flavor of the month |
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<Embalmed> |
ya.. i got frustrated and quit looking for a week |
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<geordy> |
it's way easier just to come here and ask |
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<Embalmed> |
cool. didn't know it existed until today |
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<Embalmed> |
but you're not sure if there's an IM app that uses OTR encryption to be had eh? anyone? |
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<mozzwald> |
Embalmed: i havnt tried im on openwrt but you can check the repo and see whats avail chainxor.org |
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