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<tesla_> |
hi there, it looks like there're still some people playing around with their zipits :) |
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<tesla_> |
I'm using the rootfs from http://zipit.rootnexus.org/ but it's very old, is their something newer? |
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<ang> |
tesla_, most people seem to be using openwrt now |
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<tesla_> |
ang: is there something built, or a wiki? |
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<tesla_> |
oh, there's a link in the topic, nevermind |
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<ang> |
check mozzwald's webpage, http://www.mozzwald.com |
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<ang> |
or here http://www.chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/ |
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<tesla_> |
great, thanks |
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<ang> |
do you have u-boot on your zipit? |
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<tesla_> |
yes |
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<tesla_> |
is this a problem? |
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<tesla_> |
oh damn, it's not uboot |
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<tesla_> |
i forgot, it's from openzipit autoflasher |
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<ang> |
well, on mozwalds site he has a flasher as well: http://mozzwald.com/node/148 |
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<ang> |
i would read up on it first :) |
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<tesla_> |
of course ;) |
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<slug_> |
mozzwald: add the 'no-rtti' flag to the mplayer makefile --> MAKE_FLAGS = -j4 -no-rtti |
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<slug_> |
I had jack included in my mplayer build, both jack and live are C++ libs, you don't need jack though |
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<slug_> |
walrus45: it sounds like you have a bad SD card |
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<_unreal_> |
hello |
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<tesla_> |
ang: is there somewhere a overview of useful programs for the zipit? |
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<tesla_> |
*useful and working with the screen-resolution |
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<mozzwald> |
tesla_: you could check the repo which has a list of the packages. anything in particular that you're looking for? |
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<mozzwald> |
slug_: adding no-rtti causes make to go very fast and appears to not actually compile anything. |
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<slug_> |
uh oh... you get a 'can't stat' error? |
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<mozzwald> |
yup |
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<tesla_> |
mozzwald: nothing particular, but i thought i could get some ideas from a list ;) |
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<slug_> |
mozzwald: I ended up having to remove the --enable-live from the makefile altogether, let mplayer's config find the live includes and libs on it's own |
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<slug_> |
also get rid of the no-rtti flag that I suggested |
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<slug_> |
then I had to have the live libs in the mplayer build dir as well as the staging_dir/target..../usr/lib folder |
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<slug_> |
let me know if you can multicast with the existing kernel, I may need to provide a new one configured with that enabled |
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<tesla_> |
hm... i get "lost page write to i/o error on mmcblk0p1 during boot, what can i do? |
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<tesla_> |
anyone got an idea? |
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<deeice> |
tesla_: Did you switch to uboot? |
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<tesla_> |
yes |
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<tesla_> |
deeice: why ? |
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<deeice> |
In my experience, after loading uboot, some zipits can no longer use any SD cards, some zipits can work with a few SD cards, and other zipits seem happy with just about any SD card. |
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<tesla_> |
hm... |
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<tesla_> |
so maybe a different sdcard would solve my problem? |
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<deeice> |
maybe. but I have one zipit that will no longer read *any* card, even though some of the cards work in another zipit with identical software. |
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<deeice> |
Some folks have reported better success with cards less than 2gb by well known mfgrs. |
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<tesla_> |
okay, luckily i found some other cards, will try them now. thanks for this info |
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<slug_> |
my cards read ok, but I only have one (of 4) that I can write to on the ZipIt... I can read/write to all of them on the laptop |
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<deeice> |
slug_: I also have a mixed bag of cards with varying levels of success. But then I realized it's not just the cards. Different zipits have varying degrees of trouble with the same cards. |
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<slug_> |
you can format and create images, etc, like walrus45 was doing, but then when you reboot, none of the operations performed on the SD card will be effective |
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<tesla_> |
right, that's excatly the problem i got |
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<deeice> |
Then you may be able to find a magic rw card |
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<slug_> |
deeice: yes, I recall your thoughts that it might be a pin that's not initialized |
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<deeice> |
slug_: That's what I suspect, based on the different zipits. |
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<deeice> |
Maybe someone with lotsa bootloader experience could go over the uboot sources and the zipit blob patches to see if something got skipped. |
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<slug_> |
that sounds really fun |
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<deeice> |
yeah, I'm not gonna do it. :) |
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<slug_> |
although, I've spent enough time reformatting cards that get hosed because of it, one of these days I may break down and start digging |
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<tesla_> |
well, it seems like my 2gb sd is working |
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<deeice> |
I looked once upon a time. I didnt see a whole lot of mmc code changes in the blob zipit patches. But I don't know enough about the interface to do anything with it. |
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<tesla_> |
but now, when i run "wifi" i get operation not support (-95), and i got no idea what it means, google neither |
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<deeice> |
which openwrt? |
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<deeice> |
I like the old wifi support in slug's jffs distro. |
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<tesla_> |
http://www.chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/ this one |
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<deeice> |
What do you have on your jffs? |
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<tesla_> |
i followed this instruction http://www.mozzwald.com/node/59 |
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<tesla_> |
(means: i don't really know :D ) |
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<deeice> |
Try this http://blog.engine12.com/?p=460 Then you have something that works with no SD required. You can still boot from the SD if you want.. |
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<tesla_> |
okay |
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<slug_> |
tesla_:use this one --> http://engine12.com/files/gmenu-zipit/gmenu_jffs2_rc10.tar.bz2 |
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<deeice> |
Is that new? Last I remember was rc9. |
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<slug_> |
deeice: not too new, I need to update the link though |
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<deeice> |
tesla_: You will probably need to tweak the uboot env after loading that. Do you get the correctly rotated uboot prompt? |
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<tesla_> |
http://www.mozzwald.com/node/59 |
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<tesla_> |
yes it was correctly rotated |
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<tesla_> |
ignore that link |
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<tesla_> |
:D |
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<deeice> |
slug_: When you update the link don't forget the warning about tweaking the uboot env. |
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<slug_> |
deeice: yeah ok will do, have you tried out an mp3 multicast yet? |
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<deeice> |
tesla_: Then it's probably safe to load the rc10. Check the irc logs a few days back for the uboot env changes you'll need to make. Walrus just ran into it recentlly. |
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<tesla_> |
where are the logs? |
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<deeice> |
slug_: My hearing is bad so I wouldn't know if the multicast was reaching multiple zipits. |
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<slug_> |
deeice: it's still fun to set up though |
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<slug_> |
tesla: http://www.mozzwald.com/irclog/readlog.php?chan=zipit&date=2012-5-05 |
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<deeice> |
http://www.mozzwald.com/irclog/calendar.php?&date=2012-5-1&chan=zipit |
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<deeice> |
jinx! |
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<slug_> |
no I think i posted first :) |
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<tesla_> |
thx |
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<deeice> |
At my age those posts appear simultaneous. |
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<slug_> |
it must have been the --enable-yuv4mpeg option, mplayer is now playing the mjpg-streamer output flawlessly, I had rainbows and artifacts on the image before |
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<deeice> |
what's the source of your mjpg stream? |
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<tesla_> |
I'm not sure if found the right changes for uboot env, http://www.mozzwald.com/irclog/readlog.php?chan=zipit&date=2012-5-01 <- right day? |
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<slug_> |
deeice: local server, liveCaster... or I was just using testMP3Streamer, there's plenty of processing power on the Z2 for the tast |
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<slug_> |
tesla_: that's right |
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<tesla_> |
thx |
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<slug_> |
o the mjpg stream... that's a webcam, logitech |
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<deeice> |
is the webcam on another zipit? |
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<slug_> |
yeah, but the zipit need to remain plugged in otherwise the usb drops out, I need to solder in a circuit so the voltage won't drop when I unplug it |
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<slug_> |
mount it to the lawn mower and start training |
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<deeice> |
yeah, it's about that time of year. |
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<deeice> |
If you add a mic, you could use 2 zipits for video conferencing. http://blog.pjsip.org/2007/09/20/how-to-use-your-nintendo-ds-as-a-phone-and-make-free-calls/ |
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<slug_> |
hey cool, I have usb-audio available on the webcam already |
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<deeice> |
oh, wait. the NDS thing looks like it's just audio phone calls. |
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<slug_> |
I was gonna try and get linphone running one of these days too |
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<tesla_> |
hi again ;) |
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<deeice> |
I'd be even cooler if you ditched the webcam and used a small mic on the weird audio connector. Then you could flip open the zipit and put it up to your ear like a real phone. |
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<tesla_> |
first: thats a really nice system, but i seem to have wifi problems again |
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<slug_> |
deeice: that would be neat :) |
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<slug_> |
tesla_: what's the problem? |
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<tesla_> |
it's says it's unable to connect, but i'm sure i used the right passphrase |
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<deeice> |
WPA? |
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<tesla_> |
yep |
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<deeice> |
yeah, slug's gotta fix that... |
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<slug_> |
yeah, sometimes it gets screwed up, maybe try rm /etc/wpa.conf and try again |
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<deeice> |
I could only connect to an open net with that jffs. |
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<slug_> |
I connect np with a password protected wpa ap |
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<deeice> |
I'm not up to date though. maybe on rc5 or so.. |
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<tesla_> |
success! :D |
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<tesla_> |
deleting wpa.conf solved it |
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<tesla_> |
maybe it happend when i accidenly pressed connect, when i had enterd nothing |
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<deeice> |
Watch that. I think the older version kept adding to the wpa.conf file every time I connected. |
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<slug_> |
there's something wrong with the 'first time', another solution is to suspend and wakeup, that sometimes does it, of course that process unloads and reloads the drivers too |
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<slug_> |
maybe I'll stop putting a default wpa.conf in the build and see what that does |
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<tesla_> |
so, if i want to install something now, will it install on the sd ? |
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<tesla_> |
sry if thats a stupid question... |
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<slug_> |
you need to use ovpck to install to the sd card |
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<slug_> |
but first you need to make an overlay image |
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<tesla_> |
O_o how :D ? |
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<slug_> |
you need to read mozzwalds site for the details of the overlay system --> http://mozzwald.com/node/161 |
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<slug_> |
all the files are in place, etc, just read how to use them |
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<deeice> |
slug_: You should link to that on your page because the first thing people want to do is add more stuff. |
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<tesla_> |
ok, thx |
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<slug_> |
deeice: it is already, there's just alot of other details too |
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<tesla_> |
"to create a 128mb image" can i adjust the image size? i got a 2gb sdcard |
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<slug_> |
yeah, make it whatever size you want, it will take longer to make though |
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<tesla_> |
kk |
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<slug_> |
I geuss I could describe a little more about what the overlay is and group that into a section for intalling new programs |
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<tesla_> |
would be great :) |
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<deeice> |
slug_ yes, the way it's written it's totally unclear that overlay is for adding more stuff. |
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<deeice> |
Hey, the sun's out. Gotta go do some outdoor things... |
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<tesla_> |
mounting the inmage file to /dev/loop0 |
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<tesla_> |
losetup: /dev/loop0 no such device or directory |
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<slug_> |
tesla_: you'll have to wait for mozzwald if you need help with that, maybe try again :) |
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<tesla_> |
:( |
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<slug_> |
but if you cant write to the sd card, you won't be able to make an overlay image |
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<tesla2> |
i think my shell is down, did i miss something? |
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<slug_> |
what? |
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<tesla2> |
the last thing i got was: wait for mozzwald |
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<slug_> |
o, I was just saying that if you cant write to the sd card, you won't be able to make an overlay image |
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<tesla2> |
oh, okay. maybe i should try a diffferent card again :D ? |
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<tesla3> |
that annoying :P |
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<tesla3> |
sry to ask again: what did i miss |
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<slug_> |
you can also check the irc logs --> I was just saying that if you cant write to the sd card, you won't be able to make an overlay image |
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<tesla3> |
okay, this i did get :) |
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<tesla3> |
thanks, didn't think of the logs |
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<tesla3> |
slug_: is the jffs system your work? |
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<slug_> |
the one that you just loaded have been compiled by me, but there is alot of work from all of us included |
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<tesla3> |
i love it. it's fast and makes linux on the zipit really useable :) |
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<tesla3> |
formatting the card with fat32 and rebooting with inserted card fixed it |
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<mozzwald> |
tesla_: you around? |
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<mozzwald> |
i didnt read all tghe scrollback but it looks like youre having trouble with overlay |
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<mozzwald> |
er, looks like you may have got it working.. back to work. i should be back in about 5 hours |
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<Aelius> |
hmm the archlinux 'plugbox' blog post is out of date, links 404 |
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