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[00:03:19] <_unreal_> any one live?
[00:07:02] <mozzwald> i'm alive
[00:07:48] <_unreal_> looks like I have a garbled down load of z2sidX.. know of any way to check/redown load??
[00:07:54] <_unreal_> or just redown the entire thing
[00:08:04] <_unreal_> I dont have true high speed right now saddly
[00:08:17] <_unreal_> my isp can go BLEEP them selfs
[00:08:30] <_unreal_> but open/recovery zipit is working fine
[00:08:41] <mozzwald> check the md5sum of the file you downloaded
[00:08:50] <_unreal_> no idea how
[00:09:06] <_unreal_> fedora 16 on this computer
[00:09:30] <mozzwald> md5sum <filename>
[00:09:30] <_unreal_> I know how to get into trouble easy :)
[00:09:59] <mozzwald> it spits out a string. check that vs the one on the download page
[00:10:13] <_unreal_> different
[00:10:27] <mozzwald> then the download is no good :(
[00:10:36] <_unreal_> page 826d74c7a37a3d747a7a08aa1500a8da, spit 826d74c7a37a3d747a7a08aa1500a8da
[00:11:03] <mozzwald> those are the same
[00:11:05] <_unreal_> 922fafda50ffc5967dacbfd93dbf5b24
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[00:16:10] <_unreal_> got to go to bed but one last question for ya. how do you turn off the keyboard back light?
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[00:16:28] <_unreal_> wrt recovery
[00:17:53] <mozzwald> keyb off
[00:18:03] <_unreal_> ?
[00:18:19] <mozzwald> to turn off keyboard led's type that
[00:23:03] <_unreal_> is there a list of special key commands for the zipit somewhere I'm over looking?
[00:26:15] <mozzwald> all userlands are different. most linux commands are the same. there isn't a comprehensive list of zipit specific command that I'm aware of.
[00:26:47] <_unreal_> keyb off is an example
[00:26:52] <mozzwald> most scripts I've added to userlands are in /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin
[00:28:16] <mozzwald> theres a readme file in /root on the openwrt recovery
[00:28:35] <mozzwald> has a little info in it
[00:35:30] <_unreal_> ok last question before I go to bed WAY late
[00:35:42] <_unreal_> be at work at 6:30am its now midnight 30
[00:36:02] <_unreal_> will the zipit still charge? if its suspended? or does it handle that at the hardware level?
[00:36:33] <mozzwald> yes, it does
[00:37:10] <_unreal_> sweet. een just with the recvoery OS at least I can do something with the zipit now with out it running out of juice REAL fast
[00:37:27] <_unreal_> night
[00:37:45] <mozzwald> night
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[08:28:21] <twospruces> ok almost there!! thanks to mozzwald for getty, now getty complaining about /sbin/login. it appears to be missing
[08:29:11] <twospruces> i guess that means i need a package, but i did notice that login.sh is in /sbin... does this mean that login.sh has an error?
[08:30:14] <twospruces> sorry not sbin rather bin ie /bin/login and /bib/login.sh
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[11:01:30] <slug_> the uclibc build of nodejs works... the jffs2 image compiled to 6.4 MB while uImage is 1.1 MB
[11:01:58] <slug_> mozzwald (or anyone else) can you think of a way to get those into flash?
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[11:50:42] <slug_> I chopped off openssl and know it should fit into the partions. jffs2 image is now 5.6MB. I'll flash a new ZipIt and if it works... post the images.
[11:51:34] <mozzwald> slug_: you just have to dd those files to the proper mtd partitions
[11:51:44] <slug_> I was refreshing my javascript last night, I'm pretty excited about this
[11:52:18] <slug_> the ones that fit, the last ones that mentioned right
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[11:52:39] <mozzwald> slug_: did you use my kernel patch for the mtd partition layout?
[11:52:41] <slug_> is there hope to repartion the kernel and fit the version with openssl into flash?
[11:52:51] <slug_> yep
[11:52:53] <twospruces> ok question re openwrt.... how do people shutdown?
[11:53:04] <slug_> poweroff
[11:53:19] <mozzwald> you can modify those patches to your liking
[11:53:22] <slug_> OR suspend
[11:53:36] <mozzwald> you just have to do the math for the sizes
[11:53:41] <twospruces> mozzwald. tried again. more carefully...still not working re login, going to try again
[11:53:57] <slug_> ok, so the smallest size for the kernel partion is not 2 MB
[11:54:29] <twospruces> ok poweroff... cheers. iwas used to shutdown now
[11:54:35] <mozzwald> twospruces: you can also rename your busybox bin and replace it with this http://mozzwald.com/busybox.bin then create the login symlink
[11:55:24] <mozzwald> slug_: I just chose 2mb to allow for expanding
[11:56:20] <slug_> meh, who needs openssl anyway?
[11:56:47] <mozzwald> you seem to want it :)
[11:56:52] <slug_> I don't think anyway, not like I'm setting up a store
[11:58:48] <slug_> for now I'll just keep it simple and match the partions you established
[11:59:46] <slug_> seems like there should be plenty of space left for scripts, but it's good to know that more can be obtained
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[12:00:18] <mozzwald> you could also remove the uboot splash partition too
[12:01:09] <slug_> I was thinking about that too. I may use that thought, to help distinguish my ZipIts
[12:01:42] <mozzwald> you can't keep track of all 25? :)
[12:02:32] <slug_> it's starting to get complicated
[12:03:18] <slug_> and then you went posted the link for the 20 free peeks
[12:03:49] <slug_> I gonna have to hide those when they arrive
[12:04:09] <slug_> my wife will be all over it
[12:04:46] <mozzwald> hehe
[12:05:00] <mozzwald> you have any plans for them yet?
[12:06:44] <slug_> the peeks? not really. I spent alot of time an similar CPU and have good code base for running bare metal on ARM7TDMI
[12:07:27] <slug_> so I image it being a good accesory for the ZipIt, connect to USB and share the GSM modem
[12:08:50] <mozzwald> can you get full network access with the modem in them? I wasn't sure if it only provided some kind of special push/pull data interface
[12:09:51] <slug_> I'm not really sure, it sounded like they would provide the source code to the existing OS/application
[12:10:01] <slug_> that would include drivers too
[12:10:54] <slug_> I think you would need a sim card to connect to a network too
[12:12:23] <mozzwald> yep, tmobile sim card required I think. I did some skimming about it, but complete details seem to be lacking at this point
[12:15:51] <slug_> someday it's gonna cost pennies to get a device onto those networks though, I'm sure it could also be hacked with a little investigation
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[12:41:12] <flyback> slug
[12:41:21] <flyback> did you get a stm32 f4 discover board when they were free
[12:54:47] <slug_> flyback: no
[12:55:08] <slug_> I never get free stuff :)
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[13:13:57] <slug_> this new batch of ZipIts is a little different than the first
[13:14:38] <slug_> I was able to flash uboot right out of the box with the first batch -- no updates required
[13:15:07] <slug_> this batch looks like it came straight from the factory,
[13:16:35] <slug_> this batch dies as soon as I put the SD card in, nor will it boot from the SD card. I'm guessing I need to update the drivers to handle SDHC
[13:18:49] <mozzwald> slug_: it shuts off when you put the sd card in?
[13:20:27] <slug_> yeah, they're acting weird
[13:21:02] <slug_> not sure what's going now. it's still happening after the update
[13:21:34] <mozzwald> sounds like maybe the pins are shorting out
[13:22:48] <slug_> yep, looks like it was my adapter, pos
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[13:33:10] <slug_> here's the packages for either jffs2 or the SD card tar ---> http://engine12.com/files/nodejs-zipit/
[13:33:54] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Hello
[13:34:05] <slug_> I haven't had time to mess with it much, so if anyone finds some neat scripts please share them
[13:35:09] <slug_> gotta go, if there are any problems or questions about the packages, post them, I check the logs
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[13:35:22] <mozzwald> Sir_Naitsirhc: hi
[13:36:15] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Hi Mozzwald, I was going to try to re-image my card with the sidX package, but I think I bricked my zipit. I had uboot working, but my sd-card slot broke.
[13:37:13] <Sir_Naitsirhc> I took it apart and removed the faulty spring. Now when I power it on, it hangs at the OpenZipit now with U-Boot screen. Any ideas?
[13:38:49] <mozzwald> I imagine the card is not being recognized and that's why it's not booting. what happened to the sd slot?
[13:39:04] <Sir_Naitsirhc> It would not lock the card in place
[13:39:17] <Sir_Naitsirhc> The tiny locking mechanism broke
[13:40:06] <mozzwald> hmm..i'm pretty sure then that the card slot is the issue. the logo appearing means the zipit is trying to boot at least
[13:42:49] <mozzwald> i dunno if anyone has found or even looked for replacement card slots
[13:43:43] <Sir_Naitsirhc> I might grab my friends volt meter to see if there is a connection between the sd-card and the zipit
[13:43:50] <mozzwald> are all the pins in the slot still intact/not bent?
[13:44:11] <Sir_Naitsirhc> They seem fine
[13:44:55] <mozzwald> do you have a card with rootfs that was known to be working before it broke?
[13:45:09] <Sir_Naitsirhc> yes, I have that one inserted now
[13:45:34] <mozzwald> still has your old working rootfs on it?
[13:45:47] <Sir_Naitsirhc> yes
[13:46:04] <Sir_Naitsirhc> I was trying to boot it after several months of sitting on a shelf\
[13:46:59] <mozzwald> if you have another adapter/card try that. card slot couldve damaged card or adapter
[13:48:20] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Ok, I will be back in a little while with the results :)
[13:48:49] <mozzwald> good luck :}
[13:48:49] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Thanks!
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[14:01:52] <ParkerR> Sir_Naitsirhc, You might have broken the little trigger that detects if a card is present
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[14:07:56] <Sir_Naitsirhc> ParkerR That might be, though I just plugged my card into a laptop and it says bad superblock on /dev/sdf1
[14:08:17] <ParkerR> Oh noes
[14:09:25] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Lucky me, I have an extra 8GB lying around from an old phone
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[14:10:25] <twospruces> yippee!!! i have bluetoothed on rs232 into my zipit!!
[14:10:45] <Sir_Naitsirhc> cool!
[14:13:30] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Is there an issue with using an 8GB drive with the zipit?
[14:20:05] <mozzwald> Sir_Naitsirhc: as long as the card isn't a fake and the adapter is good, it should work. I've used 2,4,8, and 16gb cards
[14:20:10] <rkdavis1> twospruces: w00t!! wtg
[14:20:26] <rkdavis1> twospruces: so what you going to do now? go to disneyworld?
[14:20:33] <Sir_Naitsirhc> what file system should I use again? ext2?
[14:21:54] <mozzwald> ext2 works
[14:23:00] <Sir_Naitsirhc> ok, thanks. It has been a while
[14:23:49] <Sir_Naitsirhc> then tar xzpf ?
[14:24:52] <mozzwald> tar -pxjvf
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[14:27:10] <mozzwald> anybody know what a fair price for one of those wm8505 netbooks is?
[14:27:34] <anarsoul> ~80usd
[14:28:21] <mozzwald> ok, thx
[14:28:31] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Has anyone ever tried gentoo on the zipit?
[14:28:44] <anarsoul> mozzwald: you wanna one with linux?
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[14:29:28] <mozzwald> anarsoul: thinking about it. but moreso I might be able to get a small handful of used ones for cheap
[14:30:13] <anarsoul> they're not very usefull btw
[14:30:34] <mozzwald> yeah, it's basically a big zipit :)
[14:30:50] <rkdavis1> :)
[14:30:52] <anarsoul> a bit worse
[14:30:56] <mozzwald> ...that doesn't fit in your pocket
[14:30:59] <anarsoul> not everything is opensource
[14:31:30] <rkdavis1> mozzwald: you like jigsaws with no instructions?
[14:31:58] <mozzwald> hehe
[14:32:00] <rkdavis1> or can you put ikea flatpacks together?
[14:32:46] <rkdavis1> i have the mipsbook wicknix sold me in about 50 bits doing nothing
[14:33:58] <mozzwald> i'm guessing you would recommend against it then :P
[14:35:42] <rkdavis1> well if you like puzzles :) i just never got around to it -- brianath has/has a wm8505 netbook and said it was ok for irc and stuff but had to do a lot of messing with it iirc
[14:37:58] <Sir_Naitsirhc> how long should the zipit stay on the OpenZipit loading screen?
[14:38:01] <mozzwald> well, I could get them for ~$10 a piece, but qty of ~25.
[14:38:46] <mozzwald> Sir_Naitsirhc: ~10 secs probably, then you should see kernel output
[14:39:29] <mozzwald> er, wait. does it have uboot?
[14:39:39] <Sir_Naitsirhc> It does
[14:39:42] <mozzwald> ok
[14:40:04] <Sir_Naitsirhc> I am going to grab a multimeter to see if it the sd-card is properly connected bbl
[14:40:12] <mozzwald> k
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[15:02:26] <deeice> mozzwald: I have a crappy augen genbook 8505 that I'd be willing to trade for a zipit with say openwrt rescue preloaded (and a serial port would be really cool)
[15:07:34] <Sir_Naitsirhc> As far as I can tell, the sd-card is connected. Is there a chance by taking it apart and touching it while not grounded I messed up u-boot?
[15:12:20] <Sir_Naitsirhc> So far, I have made a ext2 partition on the 8GB micro-sd card, extracted z2sidX onto it, sync'd and unmounted the sd-card, and plugged it onto my zipit. Did I miss a step?
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[15:15:12] <twospruces> how to add getty correctly to inittab?? S1:12345:/sbin/getty -h 19200 ttyS1 ??
[15:21:21] <`Nerobro> is there a "complete" distro on the Z2? I'd like to be able to just plug in the os and go.
[15:21:22] <`Nerobro> :-)
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[15:31:40] <mozzwald> twospruces: is your bluetooth soldered to the uart pads on the zipit mobo? those are ttyS2 @ 115200
[15:32:17] <mozzwald> `Nerobro: depends on what you want to do with your zipit
[15:32:22] * anarsoul merged latest openwrt-xburst with projectgus' openwrt and tries to compile it again
[15:32:45] <`Nerobro> mozzwald, Audio, USB, X.
[15:32:51] <`Nerobro> the basic desktop stuff. :-)
[15:34:30] <mozzwald> you can try z2sidX, but if you're expecting a desktop os you'll be disappointed ;)
[15:35:16] <`Nerobro> Naa, I just think it might be need to load some webbrowser to shock someone.
[15:35:16] <`Nerobro> might be neat.
[15:35:25] <`Nerobro> My ultimate goal is to use one as a datalogger and webserver.
[15:35:34] <`Nerobro> It's power and storage are on the right levels for that.
[15:36:24] <mozzwald> ah, ok. well z2lite has links2 gui browser if thats what you want
[15:36:53] <mozzwald> not sure if it has webserver or not
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[15:37:08] <`Nerobro> the webserver i'm going to need to scrounge up. I've done that before.
[15:37:35] <`Nerobro> There's a whole bunch of lightweight ones.
[15:37:54] <`Nerobro> and once I get it on a network.... Actually taht's something I had the most trouble with. I couldn't get the wireless card doing much of anything
[15:38:19] <mozzwald> you could try openwrt too. has plenty of webserver stuff I'm sure. I think there's a gui broswer too
[15:38:35] <`Nerobro> open wrt?
[15:38:41] <`Nerobro> what's the basis of that?
[15:38:56] * `Nerobro googles
[15:39:09] * `Nerobro nods
[15:39:12] <mozzwald> its designed for routers originally, but works on zipit too
[15:39:12] <`Nerobro> that' what I thought it was.
[15:39:19] <`Nerobro> cool
[15:39:24] <`Nerobro> Seems manageable.
[15:39:38] <`Nerobro> and more likely to get the wireless card working withougt at 2398470219374810293874021734 charecter init string
[15:40:25] <`Nerobro> well I'll give that a shot.
[15:40:32] <`Nerobro> do you mess with the Z1 at all?
[15:40:45] <`Nerobro> the webpage that was hosting the driections for making it into a webserver was taken down
[15:40:47] <mozzwald> no, never had one
[15:40:52] <`Nerobro> (more likely, the zipit was turned off...)
[15:41:26] <`Nerobro> So there's a pad for a UART on the zipit?
[15:41:56] <mozzwald> yep
[15:42:09] <`Nerobro> that's just plain awesome
[15:42:31] <`Nerobro> what else is hiding on there?
[15:42:42] <`Nerobro> I know it can be tweaked to be a USB host.
[15:43:17] <mozzwald> yeah, usb host or otg from the external dock. hafta build your own cable tho.
[15:43:43] <`Nerobro> I've never seen the external dock
[15:47:46] <mozzwald> http://bealecorner.org/best/measure/z2/z2-connector-pins.jpg
[15:51:08] <anarsoul> and bunch of gpios on external connector!
[15:51:28] <`Nerobro> really? Hmm...
[15:51:34] <`Nerobro> so the zipit could seriously do some logging.
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[15:53:23] <beaglebreath> there's a pwm output available from one of the gpio as well.
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[15:54:23] <twospruces> mozzwald.. no it is on ttys1, for a reason. ill document atsome pt. manual getty on ttys1 works..
[15:54:46] <twospruces> just cant get knittab to work!
[15:54:56] <`Nerobro> well if it's got serial out
[15:55:26] <`Nerobro> you can use a bone stock arduino as a I/O adapter, and have a dozen 400hz pwm and nearly as many gpio ;-)
[15:55:30] <anarsoul> it's on ttyS2 for sure
[15:55:48] <`Nerobro> mmm arduino glue
[15:57:29] <twospruces> no, my bt adapter is on ttys1, i have a different way of connecting that includes hw handshakes
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[16:25:08] <Sir_Naitsirhc> Is there a way to have u-boot debug more info?
[16:30:07] <mozzwald> Sir_Naitsirhc: yes, but in your current situation the only way is to connect serial
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[16:33:09] <Sir_Naitsirhc> ah
[16:33:22] <Sir_Naitsirhc> I might just buy a new zipit
[16:33:36] <Sir_Naitsirhc> any good links?
[16:34:46] <mozzwald> Sir_Naitsirhc: this is the cheapest http://russelldavis.org/2011/08/04/cheap-zipit-z2s/
[16:34:59] <mozzwald> unless you can find one on ebay maybe
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[17:49:06] <Fokker_Mollari> hi
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[17:52:50] <twospruces> sounds like in openwrt, inittab is used differently. i may need to figure out how to use rd.localnto have a respawn getty. fancy bash programming
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[19:29:02] <twospruces> what are other uboot distros....openwrt looks like too much of an oddball for me. any thoughts?
[19:30:12] <twospruces> the fact thet inittab cannot be modified to have a respawn getty is a showstopper for me, unless i can figure out a respawing bash script.
[19:30:54] <abrasive> why can't inittab have a respawning getty?
[19:31:14] <twospruces> wifi times out and i have to pwer cycle to get wifi back also...
[19:31:17] <abrasive> i'm assuming the getty process dies when the login session is done and you want it to be restarted?
[19:32:47] <twospruces> all these issues were gone in aloisa.. russell! you said openwrt! i hold you responsible !! ;)
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[19:33:08] <twospruces> abrasive yes . i want to at any time login over bluetooth serial link.
[19:34:04] <twospruces> inittab in openwrt does not work the same as usual...part ot the tradeoffs made... found a reference on the web
[19:35:38] <twospruces> if i had a better chat client i would post a link..
[19:35:53] <abrasive> then just run a script that while true; do getty bla bla; done
[19:38:16] <twospruces> //forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=23222
[19:39:28] <twospruces> triedbthat. problem is getty turns into something else.. i end up with multiple processes running, competing for ttys1
[19:39:55] <abrasive> if it daemonises, then it's not supposed to be launched in a loop...
[19:40:09] <abrasive> if you really want to do that then it will have some sort of "foreground" or "no daemon" switch
[19:40:10] <twospruces> /bin/ash --login
[19:40:21] <abrasive> which getty are you using?
[19:40:32] <twospruces> getty
[19:40:42] <abrasive> where did it come from?
[19:40:44] <twospruces> not mgetty or agetty
[19:40:56] <twospruces> special, from mozzwald
[19:41:09] <twospruces> compiled into busybox
[19:41:19] <abrasive> oh, right.
[19:41:24] <twospruces> i maybtry mgetty
[19:41:54] <abrasive> it should run in a loop just fine.
[19:42:09] <abrasive> what are you running as your loop script, exactly?
[19:42:36] <twospruces> maybe i will retry the loop script... kinda hard topost here.
[19:43:08] <mozzwald> twospruces: a lot of openwrt init stuff is in /lib/preinit
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[19:43:18] <twospruces> basically ps piped to grep searching for getty
[19:43:52] <twospruces> gotta go put kids to bed...
[19:46:11] <abrasive> why are you using ps and grep?
[19:46:26] <abrasive> getty should stay in the foreground (?)
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[21:12:50] <_unreal_> any one openwrt recvoery distro?
[21:12:50] <_unreal_> or better yet mozzwald you live?
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[21:16:24] <_unreal_> AHHHH.. ok netpslit
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[21:26:14] <_unreal_> no one live?
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[21:26:35] <_unreal_> and I was hopping to see a zombie
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[21:29:26] <_unreal_> wierd
[21:29:26] <mozzwald> _unreal_: evening
[21:29:29] <_unreal_> weird
[21:29:38] <_unreal_> hi
[21:30:01] <_unreal_> I'm weirding towards sirhoax its an inside joke
[21:30:19] <_unreal_> ok mozzwald question for ya.
[21:30:38] <sirhoax> heylow.
[21:31:21] <_unreal_> is there something I'm missing or didnt do etc....? I tried to connect to a local open wifi with the recovery openwrt and I had nothing but errors trying to setup wifi
[21:31:33] <_unreal_> iwconfig wland0 ANY option returned a syntext error
[21:31:55] <mozzwald> i can't say I've tested an open network with it
[21:32:25] <_unreal_> iwconfig is 90% non working then
[21:33:08] <mozzwald> if you do a fresh boot, then "ifconfig wlan0 up" then iwconfig wlan0 essid opennetworkid
[21:33:17] <mozzwald> I would think it should work
[21:33:39] <_unreal_> let me try
[21:33:55] <_unreal_> I was at the local mcdonalds my internet is being fucked by ATT
[21:34:04] <_unreal_> long story
[21:34:20] <_unreal_> ok rebooting zipit
[21:35:10] <_unreal_> my network is mode Ad-Hoc
[21:35:19] <_unreal_> because I'm connecting to my cell phone
[21:35:34] <_unreal_> special couph couph tethering software
[21:35:37] <_unreal_> but I dont tether
[21:35:41] <_unreal_> couph couph
[21:37:11] <_unreal_> nop
[21:38:40] <_unreal_> mozzwald, :iwconfig wlan0 essid mynetwork returns "Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[21:38:46] <_unreal_> thats the error that is being returned to me
[21:39:36] <_unreal_> all I wanted to do was :wget z2sidx...... file
[21:40:06] <mozzwald> oh, i forgot iwconfig has been replaced with iw in openwrt
[21:40:24] <_unreal_> ok so what are the new iw commands?
[21:40:41] <_unreal_> is the iwconfig package even needed then? free up some space
[21:41:29] <mozzwald> i havent used iw much. you hafta read the man page
[21:42:10] <mozzwald> should be safe to remove iwconfig
[21:42:44] <_unreal_> do you know what has changed then? to make it so that iwconfig does not work?
[21:43:53] <_unreal_> all I want is a working script that does this:
[21:43:54] <mozzwald> honestly, i dunno why it shouldnt work. but i do know they are trying to move away from it
[21:44:04] <_unreal_> iwconfig eth1 mode Managed essid attwifi
[21:44:05] <_unreal_> dhclient eth1
[21:44:33] <_unreal_> so..
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[21:44:45] <_unreal_> iw wlan0 something
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[21:45:28] <mozzwald> google for the man page. or maybe iw --help
[21:45:29] <_unreal_> frost bitten hard drives. (DOES NOT sound promising)
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[21:46:01] <_unreal_> iw is installed on this computer just ugh crasy number of options
[21:46:22] <_unreal_> are you running linux? if so; man iw
[21:46:25] <_unreal_> LOL
[21:46:28] <_unreal_> its like 1 page if that
[21:48:06] <_unreal_> theres more info from must typin iw then the man file by 10 fold
[21:48:09] <_unreal_> LOL
[21:48:11] <_unreal_> what a joke
[21:51:09] <_unreal_> AHHAHA: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed (vs iw) iw phy phy0 interface add wlan10 type managed
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[21:57:33] <_unreal_> mozzwald, still there?
[21:58:31] <_unreal_> lot of reading and testing still not getting it to work
[21:58:38] <_unreal_> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Establishing_a_basic_connection
[21:58:41] <_unreal_> been reading this
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[22:08:28] <sirhoax> w0rd.
[22:09:07] <_unreal_> ya.... iw and iwconfig are missing something
[22:09:54] <_unreal_> maybe a dependency or some kind of a file no NO options in ether other then iwconfig/iw wificard0 work
[22:14:17] <sirhoax> get that crazy thing running EMC2 ? :-)
[22:15:17] <mozzwald> _unreal_: what is output of iw wlan0 info
[22:15:34] <_unreal_> one sec
[22:18:55] <_unreal_> tizz
[22:19:01] <_unreal_> interface wlan0
[22:19:07] <_unreal_> ifindex 2
[22:19:11] <_unreal_> type managed
[22:19:36] <_unreal_> wish I had the serial mod done. could ssh into it
[22:19:37] <_unreal_> oh well
[22:20:28] <mozzwald> ok, so iw sees the device ok. and if you use it to set essid?
[22:22:05] <_unreal_> from reading this page http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Getting_link_status
[22:23:21] <_unreal_> if you search for " iw wlan0 connect foo " its saying: connect (essid:name)
[22:23:40] <_unreal_> so I type iw wlan0 connect WMWifiRouter and I get
[22:24:00] <_unreal_> command failed: no such file or dcirectory (-2)
[22:24:34] <_unreal_> upper case/lower case no difference
[22:26:54] <mozzwald> does your betwork appear in a scan?
[22:27:04] <_unreal_> net?
[22:27:05] <mozzwald> *network
[22:27:13] <_unreal_> give me a command I'll type it
[22:28:01] <mozzwald> iw wlan0 scan
[22:28:04] <_unreal_> iwlist wland0 scan returned errors does not support scanning
[22:30:25] <mozzwald> _unreal_: ??
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[22:33:10] <_unreal_> do you have a setup so you can run a ZIPIT in vm or like I said I take make a DD image of my zipits flash
[22:33:35] <mozzwald> that wont do any good
[22:34:10] <_unreal_> meaning I can send it to you can you could TRY it your self.
[22:34:39] <_unreal_> I went from virgin zipit to the aliosa mod
[22:35:18] <mozzwald> _unreal_: what is output from: iw wlan0 scan
[22:35:34] <_unreal_> ok if a zipit gets updated by the zipit web site threw its automated system is it still easly modded?
[22:36:18] <_unreal_> long list no errors
[22:36:26] <_unreal_> tsf:
[22:36:28] <_unreal_> freq:
[22:36:43] <_unreal_> etc....
[22:36:51] <_unreal_> ????ssid wifirouter
[22:37:14] <_unreal_> looks like it found my wifi router
[22:37:15] <_unreal_> maybe
[22:37:17] <_unreal_> let me reboot it just incase
[22:37:26] <mozzwald> ok. device is working then. did you try ewoc-cli?
[22:37:54] <_unreal_> I was just starting to look at that about an hour ago
[22:38:08] <_unreal_> is that installed or just on the web site?
[22:38:49] <mozzwald> did you read the readme i mentioned last nite by chance?
[22:40:31] <_unreal_> maybe what was the location again? I just worked from 6:30am and got off at 7pm
[22:40:39] <mozzwald> ewoc-cli is already in recovery
[22:40:41] <_unreal_> I'm a CNA
[22:40:54] <mozzwald> type: readme
[22:41:52] <_unreal_> ok just ran ewoc seemed to work but didnt connect
[22:41:58] <_unreal_> ! think I may know why
[22:42:14] <mozzwald> why
[22:43:04] <_unreal_> there is no option to change between mode managed and ad-hoc
[22:43:09] <_unreal_> my netowrk is ad-hoc
[22:43:25] <_unreal_> cell phone sourced wifi-3g internet
[22:45:01] <mozzwald> well, i gotta sleep. checkout the openwrt wiki. they prolly have plenty of info there on how to set it up
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