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<jimmyloves> |
NACHO LIBRE!! |
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<geordy> |
more U-boot fun if anyone is interested http://www.notanon.com/zipit/upgrading-to-a-newer-version-of-u-boot-on-the-zipit/2010/06/30/ |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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* |
Foxx grumbles |
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* |
jimmyloves is grumbling |
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<Foxx> |
still fighting with your Z2? |
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<jimmyloves> |
haha no |
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<jimmyloves> |
i did an apt-get upgrade and it's taking a long time |
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<Foxx> |
ou need to give the Z2 a little slack, its not up to par with a moderm PC |
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<Foxx> |
were you able to find VNC in apt? |
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<jimmyloves> |
yeah, that search gave me a whole lot |
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<jimmyloves> |
i can't get screen to work though |
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<jimmyloves> |
GNU Screen |
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<jimmyloves> |
If I ssh into something and I run something , will it continue until it finishes even if i quit the ssh session? |
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<rkdavis> |
yo Foxx |
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<Marex> |
reminds me I should dist-upgrade too |
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<Marex> |
that was fast |
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<Marex> |
not many updates in debian sid recently ... hrm |
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<geordy> |
marex: which distro are you using? OE? |
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<Marex> |
geordy: debian sid |
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<Marex> |
(on my devices, not on Z2) |
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<geordy> |
oh i see |
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<geordy> |
8gb card seemed to recognize btw |
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<Marex> |
geordy: good for you :) |
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<geordy> |
can't wait to try 16gb |
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<geordy> |
not cheap enough yet though |
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<geordy> |
marex: could you glance at this for gross inaccuracies if you have a minute? http://www.notanon.com/zipit/upgrading-to-a-newer-version-of-u-boot-on-the-zipit/2010/06/30/ |
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<Marex> |
thr first paragraph is weird ... just put some warning there 3-/ |
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<Marex> |
and you don't need the serial mod |
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<geordy> |
to do it this way you do |
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<Marex> |
if you have enough up-to-date* kernel, you can just "dd if=u-boot.bin of=/dev/mtdblock0" |
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<Marex> |
* means that mtdblock0 is 0x40000 bytes big according to kernel partition table |
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<geordy> |
isn't it less dangerous via the serial mod though since you are actually testing the firmware before flashing it? |
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<Marex> |
AND mtdblock1 should start at 0x40000 and be 0x20000 big (0x40000-0x60000 mtdblock1) |
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<Marex> |
geordy: but it's tested now |
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<Marex> |
ok, update procedure from linux : |
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<Marex> |
1) verify : mtdblock0 0x0-0x40000 ; mtdblock1 0x40000-0x60000 |
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<geordy> |
Yes, I've tested it but if someone had a corrupt download they would brick. I suppose I could post an MD5 too |
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<Marex> |
2) dd if=U-Boot.rel.Jun.30-2010.bin of=/dev/mtdblock0 |
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<Marex> |
3) wipe the U-Boot env : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock1 |
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<Marex> |
(actually, that doesn't matter what you write there ... anything random would invalidate the CRC) |
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<Marex> |
and that's it |
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<Marex> |
6fd16c011336d2dfca4505d2abdbad4b09e4b238 u-boot.bin |
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<Marex> |
that's sha1sum |
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<geordy> |
How do you verify mtdblock0 0x0-0x40000 ; mtdblock1 0x40000-0x60000? |
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<Marex> |
geordy: check dmesg |
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<Marex> |
ad your 4) -- the formulation there is a bit tricky -- you should rewrite it to something like : |
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<Marex> |
after you ran "go 0x5c000000", the new bootloader started and you should interrupt the boot process ... you'll get a new prompt (of the new bootloader) ... DO NOT TYPE ANYTHING BUT THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS <commands to update> THERE |
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<Marex> |
IF YOU power cycle the unit before typing the <commands> or do any other actions, you will likely brick the unit |
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<Marex> |
--------- |
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<Marex> |
that's important |
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<Marex> |
--------- |
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<Marex> |
also ... in 4), the user should verify, that the size of the download corresponds with the file size he sent over YMODEM and with the argument of "cp.b" ! |
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<Marex> |
hm it's lower ... that can be dangerous |
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<Marex> |
you shouldn't put such a crucial information under the dangerous steps |
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<mozzwald> |
geordy: the kernel I gave you does not have the updated partition table. |
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<geordy> |
marex: I will add at the top "read all instructions completely before attempting this procedure" |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald: so your kernel won't work with sdhc? or what? |
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<mozzwald> |
geordy: you should not write a new uboot from linux. |
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<geordy> |
oooo |
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<geordy> |
glad you mentioned something |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: geordy: you guys should roll a complete thing, really :) |
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<geordy> |
yes, this is all just preliminary |
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<Marex> |
well U-Boot us now quite stable and so is kernel |
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<geordy> |
once I get some of this information digested, I want to tweak the uboot.script a bit to make it more friendly. then I'll work with mozzwald to roll a package |
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<geordy> |
I still need to flash that static kernel into memory and try to work with that a bit |
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<geordy> |
I think that might be a lot more digestible for the masses. |
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<geordy> |
marex: what are you saying here? "... with the argument of "cp.b" !" |
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<Marex> |
cp.b from to SIZE |
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<Marex> |
the SIZE has to be the same as the size of the file (convert from/to hex) and size of the data downloaded with loady |
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<geordy> |
marex: can you break that down and clarify a little further? |
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<geordy> |
20620 is the file size in hex, right? |
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<Marex> |
yes |
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<geordy> |
and that's the last number in step 4 |
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<Marex> |
yes |
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<geordy> |
so what else? |
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<Marex> |
and if you run loady, it then tells you how many bytes it downloaded |
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<Marex> |
that's in step 1 or something |
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<Marex> |
the number is even highlighted in first picture of that article |
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<geordy> |
yeah, that's the two numbers I'm comparing |
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<Marex> |
and the file size on your harddrive |
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<geordy> |
I want to make sure the downloaded size is the same as the last argument in step 4 |
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<Marex> |
right |
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<geordy> |
but also on my hard drive before I even send the file? |
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<Marex> |
yeah |
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<Marex> |
well let's see how CCACHE will help here :) |
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<Marex> |
I hope to cut down the buildtime from 6 hours for MAKEALL |
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<geordy> |
any diji hackers here? |
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<geordy> |
http://hackaday.com/2010/06/30/didj-composite-video-out/ |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: i just passed that off to our resident diji hacker -- foxx :) |
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<geordy> |
that looks like an excellent hack |
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<rkdavis> |
well i pm'ed him the url anyway |
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<geordy> |
I should open up my diji some day here and actually do the serial mod |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: no no no you don't have time just send it to me i'll use it as practice for the zipit serial mod |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<geordy> |
you should know your zipit inside, outside and all other sides by now |
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<geordy> |
shouldn't be a problem for you to do that serial mod |
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<geordy> |
just don't hamfist the soldering |
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<rkdavis> |
slowly getting better again -- had a little practice session earlier -- only had about 3 solder spikes and down to pads about 8mmx8mm now |
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<geordy> |
and measure like 5 times before drilling that hole |
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<rkdavis> |
only 5 times? |
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<rkdavis> |
oh that reminds me i have to ask our landlady if she has a power drill when i go downstairs to pay the rent tomorrow |
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<geordy> |
do you remember which palm treo has the hardware similar to the zipit? |
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<geordy> |
I have a treo 800w and 750p sitting idle |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm let me see if i can find the url |
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<geordy> |
I'd love to serial hack them for fun if possible |
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<rkdavis> |
http://hhtinker.blogspot.com/2008/10/usb-host-on-treo-650.html that was the post i found first |
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<rkdavis> |
the 650 |
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<rkdavis> |
but if you look on marex's site hack'n'dev there is alot about the treo |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: hackndev isn't my site |
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<rkdavis> |
http://hackndev.com/ |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: ok |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: it's run by a friend and a colegue though :) |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i actually sort of knew it wasn't but i always associate it with you |
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<geordy> |
marex: do you know much about the treos? |
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<geordy> |
like what bootloader they use, etc? |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: you aren't allowed to stop work on the zipit until you and mozzwald have made a nice idiotproof (ok lets admit it rkdavisproof) u-boot and kernel installer |
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<Marex> |
750p was never manufactured |
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<Marex> |
it's either 750v or 700p |
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<Marex> |
geordy: they have UART on the connector |
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<geordy> |
700p, you're right |
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<Marex> |
geordy: it has the same CPU as z2 |
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<Marex> |
the 700p |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: I like to bounce around alot and mix it up a bit |
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<Marex> |
but you can't reflash it |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: they have meds for ADHD these days |
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<geordy> |
marex: yeah, that's what I thought. A lot of them seem similar |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: as much as it seems, I'm not actually adhd |
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<geordy> |
marex: seems like more than one of them are running pxa270's |
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<Marex> |
geordy: MSystem DiskOnChip |
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<Marex> |
geordy: indeed, most of them |
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<geordy> |
marex: ewwww |
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<rkdavis> |
I actually am but i refuse to accept the diagnoses because now adays everyone has it -- but there is one simple test that will confirm if you really do have it or if it's just bad parenting |
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<rkdavis> |
if you can drink a cup of strong black coffee and goto sleep then you have it or are a bit bipolar -- if coffee keeps you away then you aren't |
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<rkdavis> |
s.away/awake |
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<geordy> |
coffee keeps me awake |
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<rkdavis> |
in the mid 80s i wrote a paper for college about the link between personaility disorders and hacking and that wa sone of the tests we devised |
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<rkdavis> |
it actually got published in a small medical and computer science journal |
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<rkdavis> |
i need to find a copy of it one day |
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<geordy> |
that's like if you take ritalin and get amped up then you don't have adhd |
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<rkdavis> |
this was before ritalin, the only drug they had then was wellbutrin |
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<geordy> |
that name sounds like they are trying to hide something |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<jimmyloves> |
how do i type this symbol on the zipit |
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<jimmyloves> |
| |
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<rkdavis> |
alt+ smile |
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<mozzwald> |
losing tiny components when you have no spares is not fun :( |
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<geordy> |
depends what keymap though. |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: that one is a de facto standard |
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<rkdavis> |
from stock to oe to debian to rootnexus to ..... |
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<jimmyloves> |
it doesn't work |
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<geordy> |
alt-smile doesn't work on mine |
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<jimmyloves> |
me neither |
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<mozzwald> |
alt-shift-L on mine |
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<rkdavis> |
ok you two are awkward b***** then |
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<rkdavis> |
ok you three then |
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<mozzwald> |
hehe |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: all the debians are different from you |
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<rkdavis> |
for the rest of the world it's alt+:) |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: they shouldn't be as they used my keymap |
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<rkdavis> |
originally |
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<rkdavis> |
especially rootnexus |
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<geordy> |
something got lost in the translation then |
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<jimmyloves> |
wait... |
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<geordy> |
I need to get sidetrack working with u-boot here... |
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<jimmyloves> |
i still can't get it |
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<rkdavis> |
the X an dconsole maps are different but gaain in most it should be alt+:) as that was in the map compiled into the kernel |
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<jimmyloves> |
how do I found out what it is for me? |
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<rkdavis> |
jimmyloves: look for a file keymap.map or similarly named file |
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<jimmyloves> |
where should it be? |
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<rkdavis> |
you have to find it |
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<rkdavis> |
it could be anywhere |
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<rkdavis> |
everyone puts it in a different place |
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<jimmyloves> |
dangit |
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<rkdavis> |
some in /opt some in /etc |
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<geordy> |
etc probably |
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<geordy> |
in sidetrack that's where I remember it |
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<rkdavis> |
jimmyloves: better ways to do it but cd / ; ls -alR | grep keymap will probably find it |
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<rkdavis> |
i can't remember the find comamnds of hand |
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<jimmyloves> |
found it in etc |
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<rkdavis> |
ok open that file and look for the line = bar |
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<rkdavis> |
if it is on the smile key it is keycode 1 |
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<jimmyloves> |
the list starts as 8,9,22,23, and so on |
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<rkdavis> |
jimmyloves: can you pastebin the file? |
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<jimmyloves> |
k |
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<jimmyloves> |
let me |
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<jimmyloves> |
se |
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<jimmyloves> |
see* |
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<rkdavis> |
k |
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<jimmyloves_> |
im on it through ssh |
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<jimmyloves_> |
what's the easiest way |
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<jimmyloves_> |
to copy it |
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<rkdavis> |
well hmmm |
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<azend> |
scp |
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<jimmyloves_> |
how do i use scp |
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<azend> |
man scp |
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<azend> |
or scp --help |
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<jimmyloves_> |
no man here |
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<mozzwald> |
ctrl-shift-c ? |
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<azend> |
yeah I forgot I always install man |
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<rkdavis> |
jimmyloves_ i pm'ed you |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis and mozzwald: this one is for you http://tinyurl.com/27jqnjc |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
really good idea there when it is made of glass |
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<rkdavis> |
and i call BS on jobs comment all smart phones have problems -- i have several that i could almost hold underwater and they'd still get the same bars |
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<rkdavis> |
docroan I tried the "you're holding it wrong" speech w/ my wife. Not successful either. hehehehehehhehehe |
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<geordy> |
I could see a metal ring around the phone causing an attenuation problem but come'on. don't they test this crap in the field? |
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<rkdavis> |
well they did test it in a bar |
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<rkdavis> |
but it was in a 3g case |
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<geordy> |
yeah, that's right. I forgot it was disguised. how dumb |
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<rkdavis> |
but anyone with any brains could see if you make an item out of glass with a ring of metal to use as an antenna you'd have problems |
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<rkdavis> |
remember the rabbit ears tv areials? if you had a bad picture your dad would go over to change it and he'd end up standing there all night holding it because it wa sthe only way to get a picture because he became part of the ariel -- this is a similar thing except in reverse |
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<geordy> |
yep. I'm familiar with the problem. dumb dumb dumb |
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<rkdavis> |
even a grade schooler could tell you that it just won't work |
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<rkdavis> |
it's another case of the jobsian form of function isn't it purtee epic fail :) |
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<jimmyloves> |
cya |
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<rkdavis> |
eureka!!!! i am a genius and modest too -- w00h00 |
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<rkdavis> |
i just solved a problem i have been working on for weeks :) |
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<Marex> |
I wonder ... can one go crazy from studying and being stressed ? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yes |
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<Marex> |
s/studying/studying non-stop/ |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: oh ok |
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<rkdavis> |
yes definate possibility |
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<Marex> |
I already ate all the chocolate here |
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<Marex> |
damn |
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<rkdavis> |
just look at any of the older people in here -- we are all a little crazy |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: what was the problem you fixed ? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i have chocolate :) good chocolate as well :) |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i'd been struggling how to do some flow control in a system that doesn't have any |
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<rkdavis> |
i needed to do some branching but the system doesn't have branches and very few conditional statements |
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<rkdavis> |
and no functions or procedures or anything actually helpful |
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<rkdavis> |
but it does have floating point line numbers :) |
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<Marex> |
what the heck is it ? |
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<rkdavis> |
a very very very old system running a specialised basic from 1971 |
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<Marex> |
oh wow :) |
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<rkdavis> |
it was an old academic system a friend got given by his university employer as they obsoluted it |
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<Marex> |
it does have GOTO statements though, doesn't it ? |
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<rkdavis> |
it's for a mass spectromitor -- it's an analog computer |
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<rkdavis> |
nope no goto |
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<Marex> |
ah I see |
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<Marex> |
how can it be turing-complete if there's no way to branch ? |
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<rkdavis> |
who said it was turing complete? |
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<rkdavis> |
it was a one of device that ended up in use for nearly 40 years. they just kept adding to it as they needed stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
it was originally just a couple of stepper motor type things and some photodarlingtons and then evolved |
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<rkdavis> |
whenever anyone needed something added and had the budget or spare parts to do it |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll have to see if my friend can take some photos of it -- it's a mass of wires and tubes and stuff that is the size of a small car |
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<jimmyloves> |
hey rkdavis, the keymap.map changed the keys in terminal...i can't type numbers |
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<jimmyloves> |
that's weird |
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<rkdavis> |
jimmyloves: yup a conflict between X and console probably |
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<rkdavis> |
just remove that keymap.map file and reboot |
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<jimmyloves> |
then what will it use? |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I see |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: it still uses tubes ? |
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<Marex> |
wow |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: if i didn't bin them when we moved i still have about 4 big boxes of tubes somewhere |
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<rkdavis> |
when i say i didn't bin i mean wife didn't bin |
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<jimmyloves> |
why is debian so big? |
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<jimmyloves> |
5 DVDS? |
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<Marex> |
there used to be a saying back in good ol' times ... |
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<Marex> |
what's not in slackware you don't need ... what's not in debian doesn't exist |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I have a big box of tubes too ;-) |
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<jimmyloves> |
so, does it have a lot of packages? |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I'm in loss for words ... I believe you'd love to answer this question |
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<Marex> |
jimmyloves: sorry, I'm incapable of answering that |
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<jimmyloves> |
...ok |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i'm eating dinner at th emoment |
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<Marex> |
jimmyloves: have you tried for example reading at www.debian.org ? |
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<Marex> |
jimmyloves: maybe, the fourth sentence from the beginning is the answer |
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<jimmyloves> |
lol |
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<Marex> |
jimmyloves: please learn to read, thank you |
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<jimmyloves> |
man, lucky guess too |
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<rkdavis> |
oooo found more candy i had forgotten about -- a bag of tooty frooties |
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<Lydia`> |
rkdavis, did you try to termtalk me? |
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<Lydia`> |
I saw that on the screen just a moment ago but your not on the user list |
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<Lydia`> |
and I have no idea how to awnser one |
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<Lydia`> |
I was in 0solitare |
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<rkdavis> |
Lydia`: yes i just thought i'd ping you as i saw you werew online but i signed off |
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<rkdavis> |
it's wither lab or data to answer iirc |
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<Lydia`> |
i saw the line on the bottom of the screen - don't know how long it was in there |
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<Lydia`> |
ok okay |
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<rkdavis> |
probably about 30 seconds |
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<Lydia`> |
OK, i saw that and had a mini panic |
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<Lydia`> |
as I didn't know how to reply |
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<rkdavis> |
Lydia`: no worrys i was just mucking around |
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<rkdavis> |
and as i saw you online i thought i'd page ya |
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<Lydia`> |
okay coolies :-) |
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<Lydia`> |
I'll awnser next time - np |
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<bobdole369> |
zomg really??!! |
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<bobdole369> |
usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 |
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<bobdole369> |
I'm seeing rumblings of USB host support?! |
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<geordy> |
bobdole369: yep, working on it |
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<geordy> |
it's not for the faint of hear though |
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<geordy> |
heart* |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: want to give bobdole369 your explanation of the little plastic piece and how to put it back in? |
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<bobdole369> |
Would love it :) |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: / bobdole369 it's a little plastic thingy that seems to support the mb a tad on that side |
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<geordy> |
by the power switch, right? |
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<rkdavis> |
it has a little cutout |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
the long side goes to the right as you look down on the opened zipit |
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<mozzwald> |
I still think this plastic piece doesn't exist. :) |
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<rkdavis> |
wuth the two cutouts slotting into a circular metal bit on the hinge and a rectangle by the lcd wires |
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<rkdavis> |
http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/S1050125.JPG |
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<rkdavis> |
and looks like that |
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<rkdavis> |
so nah nah na na nah :p mozzwald |
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<geordy> |
rk, your picture is unclear as if it's a UFO http://www.notanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/zipit_disassembly_step_8.jpg |
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<Foxx> |
rkdavis, thats a HORRIBLE picture |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: i know i had a crappy camera and no skillz |
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<mozzwald> |
yeah, all I see is a white blob |
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<geordy> |
I'm not proud of my picture either but jeez :P |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: it surved it's purpose at the time |
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<rkdavis> |
gpsfan was able to identify it :) |
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<bobdole369> |
tnx rkdavis, next time I open her up I'll be able to put it back in now. |
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<Foxx> |
up the exposure, step back a bit, angle the camera back about 60 degrees, that will gelp |
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<Foxx> |
help* |
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<Foxx> |
might need to enable Macro shot (looks like a flower icon) |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: it would be out of focus then |
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<geordy> |
so rk, the vertical part sticks up and goes in line with which key on the keyboard? |
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<rkdavis> |
i spent 10 mins trying to get a decent shot -- that was the best one |
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<Foxx> |
rk, look at my picasa page, i know how to take close-up shots of stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
nope that is upsidedown |
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<rkdavis> |
the sticky up bit goes face down |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis, it's just over exposed. next time try a white background and put a piece of typing paper in front of the flash |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: i don't take photos so i don't care |
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<Foxx> |
and it shows |
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<rkdavis> |
it was a quick shot for gpsfan to identify it for me |
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<mozzwald> |
i need to see this thing. |
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<Foxx> |
this is probabbly one of the tighter shots ive done thats applicable to #zipit |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/TechCrapGizmos#5232029658335144722 |
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<Foxx> |
and thats also through a 3x magnifying lens |
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<geordy> |
foxx: whenever I follow your picasa links, it takes me to the whole gallery, not the one picture you are referring to |
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<Foxx> |
weird |
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<Foxx> |
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_i7ymkA4U878/SJvnQPdf6xI/AAAAAAAABiI/xx3sEy89jJw/s640/100_2337.JPG |
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<geordy> |
that's better |
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<geordy> |
is that a Z1? |
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<Foxx> |
yeah |
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<geordy> |
sdcard mod? |
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<Foxx> |
thats 30 guage wire on there |
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<Foxx> |
SD and serial |
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<geordy> |
crazy |
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<mozzwald> |
I see this mystery plastic now |
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<geordy> |
take a picture mozz :p |
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<geordy> |
can you get a picture of it installed? |
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<mozzwald> |
yeah |
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<mozzwald> |
http://www.mozzwald.com/zipit/z2-mystery-plastic.jpg |
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<bobdole369> |
THERE we go. |
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<bobdole369> |
tnx a ton |
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<bobdole369> |
Gotta be a last minute mod to some odd problem someone found on the production line. |
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<mozzwald> |
foxx: nice solder job on that z1 |
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<mozzwald> |
very clean |
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<Foxx> |
thanks? |
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<Foxx> |
wasnt my best work to be honest, it wasnt too hard for me, I had more issues placing the SD card |
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<Lydia`> |
oh, I found a blast to the past thing today - an SCSI-HDI to DB25-SCSI adapter |
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<Lydia`> |
i don't suppose there's a need for one these days |
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<bobuntu> |
any ideas why z2mouseoption might not work? |
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<mozzwald> |
bobuntu: is it running? :) |
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<bobuntu> |
well I followed your instructions but there's no way for me to tell if it's running inside x |
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<bobuntu> |
because I can't get a terminal up in x |
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<mozzwald> |
bobuntu: which userland you running? z2buntu? |
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<bobuntu> |
yeah |
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<mozzwald> |
bobuntu: you followed all my steps exactly? |
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<geordy> |
mozzwald: awesome. I'm going to shamelessly borrow that picture if you don't mind. |
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<bobuntu> |
yes |
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<mozzwald> |
geordy: no sweat |
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<bobuntu> |
i'll just try it all again and come report back at a later date |
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<mozzwald> |
bobuntu: from the command line, try just doing "op z2mouse" and make sure that works |
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<mozzwald> |
or leave |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlj0jBtYmQ |
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