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<ssieb> |
azend: I'm complete and seeding now |
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<ang> |
only 54% here |
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<ssieb> |
ang: I'll turn up my uploading rate :-) |
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<ang> |
thanks! |
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<azend_> |
ssieb: I'm complete too but I am forced to stop |
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<azend_> |
my bandwidth limit won't allow it |
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<ssieb> |
why? |
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<ssieb> |
ah... |
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<azend_> |
I will start seeding tho tomorrow when my bandwidth limit turns over |
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<ssieb> |
I have a VPS for this purpose with a 1Mbs connection :-) |
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<ssieb> |
err, 10Mbs |
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<azend_> |
sorry 2 days from now |
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<azend_> |
lucky |
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<azend_> |
seedbox? |
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<ssieb> |
no, it was acanac, but they've split the online server part off to a different company now |
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<ssieb> |
ang: are you ab7.org? |
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<ang> |
yup |
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<ang> |
get about 170KB/s now |
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<azend_> |
ang: is your name Angelo Brigante? |
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<ang> |
lol,,,i see you've mastered the whois command :P |
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<ang> |
ssieb: just jumped to ~500 |
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<ssieb> |
;-) |
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<ssieb> |
you seem to be maxing out there |
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<azend_> |
:P |
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<azend_> |
ang: I can't find you on facebook |
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<azend_> |
:( |
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<ang> |
i don't facebook |
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<ang> |
i loathe social networking |
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<azend_> |
are you relatives with Elizabeth Ann Brigante? |
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<ang> |
no idea who that is |
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<azend_> |
:/ |
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<ssieb> |
ang: a little over 500 now. what kind of connection do you have? |
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<azend_> |
a good one |
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<ssieb> |
not really. I can get over 2MB/s download on my cable connection... |
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<ang> |
i forget what the limit is...ab7.org is hosted at linode.com |
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<ssieb> |
it's picking up now over 600 |
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<ssieb> |
almost 700 |
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<ssieb> |
wow, really picking up now... |
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<ang> |
yup, approaching 900 |
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<ang> |
where are you located? |
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<ang> |
that box is in atlanta |
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<ssieb> |
I think it's eastern canada |
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<ang> |
inbound: no limit / outbound 50Mb/s ... those are my limits :) |
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<ssieb> |
nice! |
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<ang> |
i only pay for their smallest service tho ... which is 200gb bandwith a month.... i've never even come close to that |
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<ssieb> |
I pay a little bit more for a much better package though (depending on what you're looking for) |
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<ssieb> |
and they're supposed to be migrating me to the new system which is even better, but they haven't got back to me yet :-( |
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<ang> |
who do you use? |
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<ssieb> |
I should end up with 250GB of storage which was the important point for me (currently 100GB) |
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<ssieb> |
http://www.zazeen.com/ is what I'm supposed to be getting |
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* |
ssieb will be getting on their case this week... |
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<ssieb> |
silly naming, the "Extreme" is the lowest end one :-P |
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<ang> |
hehe |
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<ang> |
i'd never heard of them |
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<ang> |
extreme is 450gb, wow |
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<ang> |
do you vpn or use freenx ? |
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<ssieb> |
neither right now |
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<ssieb> |
I was planning on moving my VPN setup there, but they old system uses openvz and I create tun devices of any form :-/ |
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<ssieb> |
the new system appears to be better. It's Ubuntu, but oh well... |
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<ang> |
i have 2 xen and 1 openvz |
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<ssieb> |
I notice that yours provides Fedora, which I would much prefer :-) |
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<ssieb> |
why so many? |
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<ang> |
linode was my original, then i got a second to putz with as to not have downtime on the primary as i host a bunch of stuff there |
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<ang> |
the third was just really cheap and i needed a centos box to brush up on my red hat admining when i was interviewing for jobs :) |
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<ang> |
i do need to cut back :) |
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<ang> |
ssieb: one of the things that swayed me to linode was that they offered slackware :) |
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<ang> |
i have one with prgmr.com and servercomplete.com as well |
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<ssieb> |
I don't care too much what distro it is as long as it is Linux and I have full root access. it was the disk space that really got my attention at the one I have |
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<ang> |
yeah |
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<ang> |
i've never seen so much space offered |
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<aelius> |
hey guys, I'm slightly confused about sdl and opengl. SDL is like the windows directX set from what I see (direct input, direct audio, etc), and SDL can render 2d. It says it needs opengl to access 3d hardware; does the zipit have 3d hardware to be acessed? does prboom qualify as 3d? |
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<ssieb> |
I don't see why not. disk space is so cheap now! |
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<aelius> |
it's rather ambiguous as to whether or not prboom absolutely needs opengl |
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<ssieb> |
aelius: prboom is software rendered I believe (or at least can be?) |
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<aelius> |
it definitely can be ssieb, for mac osx at least |
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<ang> |
ssieb: ok, it's done downloading, but hasn't started seeding yet |
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<ssieb> |
have to calculate hash first |
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* |
ssieb puts his other torrents back to normal settings :-) |
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<ang> |
hehe, thx! |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: hey ... one more time, just to make sure ... you see no artifacts on the Z2 screen with cpufreq, right ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: correct, it just freezes |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: no matter to what frequency you change it |
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<Marex> |
ok |
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<mozzwald> |
the screen just stops as is (cursor freeze) |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: are you having screen issues with it? |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<mozzwald> |
mornin |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm still in a state of shock |
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<rkdavis> |
the wife and i went to see mamma mia on broadway last night -- a beer, a wine and a bootle of water was $28 |
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<rkdavis> |
and a kit kat was $4 |
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<rkdavis> |
i had to take out a mortgage to pay for it |
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<rkdavis> |
but they did give us cute sippy cups to drink from at our seats :) |
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<mozzwald> |
oh my, I'm so sorry for you |
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<rkdavis> |
still it was fun -- haven't been to the theatre for yonks at least not to an adult play/musical -- the last 3 we'd been to was as chaperones when the kid was at school |
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<rkdavis> |
but $28 for beer,wine,water i could almost have got drunk on that anywhere else |
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<mozzwald> |
yeah, that's a bit pricey |
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<rkdavis> |
i've just seent the kid to the store to check that kit kats are still 75 cents in the real world |
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<rkdavis> |
and that the prices didn't go up while i wasn't looking |
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<mozzwald> |
oh, you didn't hear? there was an explosion at the kit kat factory and there's a shortage. :) |
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<rkdavis> |
nnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo anything but that |
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<rkdavis> |
although it isn't liek its real chocolate it's herseys -- almost cheaper to have the real ones sent form the uk |
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<mozzwald> |
milk chocolate isn't real? |
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<rkdavis> |
american chocolate isn't |
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<rkdavis> |
not allowed to be called chocolate in europe |
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<mozzwald> |
corn syrup, probably. |
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<rkdavis> |
hersey's has to be labeled as chocolate like or chocolate style |
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<mozzwald> |
that's hilarious. |
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<rkdavis> |
i don't like hersey's -- tastes and smells like dog s*** to me but then i was brought up on the real stuff -- cadbury's for belgium chocolate |
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<rkdavis> |
s/for/or |
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<mozzwald> |
I was raised on corn syrup, like most americans |
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<rkdavis> |
my way with handling life is covered in the following quote "in times of chrisis or turning points of life always retire to bed with the one you love. belgium chocolate" |
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<mozzwald> |
hehe |
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<ang> |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_chocolate |
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<NeonLichT> |
A bear and a wine in Granada is about $5, with a couple of "tapas" (small portions of food) for free, of course :) |
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<NeonLichT> |
s/bear/beer/ |
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<rkdavis> |
NeonLichT: did you have to correct that? i was al set to go get a six pack of bears -- that would be cool |
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<NeonLichT> |
hahaha |
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<ang> |
yeah. a bear for $5 would be cool |
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<NeonLichT> |
ang, a small bear (~200cl) plus tapa (food) is about $2 here, a big one + tapa around $2.8-$3- |
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<rkdavis> |
NeonLichT: it was a theatre and i know they do charge more but i'm still flabbergasted -- tourists are bigegr suckers than i thought -- i could buy 18 beers for $28 in the store and proably 24 in the distributor |
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<NeonLichT> |
I'm not talking about shops, rkdavis, but at bars |
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<rkdavis> |
NeonLichT: in a bar i could still get upto 6 beers for $28 |
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<NeonLichT> |
you coukd get 10-12 with 10-12 tapas here for $28. |
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<NeonLichT> |
look for "tapas in Granada" on a search engine to get an idea of what I'm talking about. |
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<rkdavis> |
NeonLichT: and of course i am of the right age that i remember when in the uk i could get 2 british pints not the american shortchange pints for a pound |
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<mozzwald> |
suspend to ram on zipit is nice. according to apm (which is usually off a bit) I used about 2% battery over 12 hours in suspend |
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<NeonLichT> |
Wow! That's good. |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: nice |
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<rkdavis> |
anyone seen Foxx recently? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: nope, no screen issues ... (sorry, just got out of the bath) |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: nope |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: you try the ubuntu? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: hope you are dry otherwise they will be a crispy marex when you plug the zipit into the mains |
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<mozzwald> |
hehe |
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<rkdavis> |
s/they/there'll |
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<ang> |
surprising...the peek can't to upgrades over the air: http://www.faq.getpeek.com/?p=177 |
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<ang> |
so basically you need to pay $20 for the upgrade cable |
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<rkdavis> |
ang: yes i think its a jtag cable of some sort |
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<ang> |
that's weak. if i recall, the zipit can be flashed via wifi? |
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<rkdavis> |
ang: well i wouldn't do it but it could and of course the zipit stock app does it over wifi as thats how it gets it from zipit |
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<rkdavis> |
and the z1 it was one of the methods |
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<ang> |
yeah, I meant the stock zipit receives its updates from zipitwireless that way :) |
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<mozzwald> |
ang: your zipit arriving soon? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: didn't get to it yet ... though I have OE buildmachine up and running |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: Your OE have the same freezing problem I assume? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I haven't compiled it yet ... I can try some image though |
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<Marex> |
oh wait ... I have some old debian bootstrapped here |
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<Marex> |
hang on |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: ok, I finally fixed my git mess ... compiling |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh my cable isn't going to arrive until the 22nd :( |
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<rkdavis> |
still it gives me time to get organised and tidy up the house so i have a work area again |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I have new uboot ready |
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<SDuensin> |
Any of you guys good with OpenVPN and routing in general? I'm trying to set up something weird. :-) |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: what's in the new uboot? |
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<Marex> |
j/w you guys actually use the keyboard on the Z2 ? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: do you have the old link ? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: the file is called the same, but change Jun-03 to Jun-13 and it's not .tar.gz but .bin |
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<Marex> |
U-Boot.rel.Jun-13-2010.bin |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I use they keyboard on it. |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I have the link still. |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: just run splituboot on it and you should be good |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: the thing ^ is the u-boot binary |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: but I think it'd be enough for you to just flash it like you did the old one ;-) |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I shouldn't need to split it since I've already got it. |
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<Marex> |
7f5c6f4cee57a5e4602ea31a9e57e2510d52e40c7a8fb48b0a7b18a4898b712f ZipitZ2/u-boot-pxa/u-boot.bin |
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<Marex> |
FYI |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: it's slightly over 128kb so be sure to erase 0x40000 btw. |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: what's new in this one? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: nothing ... just a new build |
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<Marex> |
mainstream fixes etc |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: 104MHz, playing wav audio, running alsamixer ... still no hang :) |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: j/w what compiler do you use ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I'm using http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1294 |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: try emdebian toolchain |
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<Marex> |
I think your toolchain might be buggy |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I even did some aggressive tests (reading from card and freq transition while that etc) and it seems to be ok |
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<mozzwald> |
hmm.. Alrighty. |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: btw did you remove the resistor or slice the trace? |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: thattrace is tiny but then again so is the resistor so trying to workout which will be easier |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: I just turned it 90 degrees so if I need to put it back I can. but I also have a hot air rework pen. A hot iron should be able to remove it tho. |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: ok that looks like the safest thing to do -- it would be very easy to cut the trace and cut something by accident |
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<rkdavis> |
will just pick up a crappy soldering iron for the time beeing and put a decent soldering station on my birthday list |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: And if you decide to undo the mod, it's harder to solder traces back together |
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<LT[LC]> |
SDuensin: whatchya trying to do with the vpn? |
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<LT[LC]> |
i'm not an expert, but i'd like to think that i have enough experience to help :P |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: i'd have thought the trace would have bene easier to fix -- little blob of soldeer with maybe a wire in it |
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<SDuensin> |
LT[LC]: I think I've got it working now. I needed to run a VPN over a VPN and make the second one my default gateway without trashing the first one. |
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<LT[LC]> |
ah |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: what do you know about brands? i haven't bought soldering kit in 20 years -- is weller any good? |
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<rkdavis> |
actually nearer 30 years but whose counting? |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: depends on the cut of the trace. I hafta fix board damaged almost everyday. easier for me to replace a resistor than fix a broken trace |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: yup if you have the right tools and have practiced enough |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: I use a $40 weller with a fine tip. works well |
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<mozzwald> |
WP25 |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm what to put on my list weller soldering station or hakko? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok lets see how much amazon want for it |
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<mozzwald> |
I hear good things about hakko, but have never used one |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: ah the weller wp25 is just the iron not the little temp box thing |
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<mozzwald> |
right |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: ok onto my birthday list for the family and amazon wishlist for the suckers :) |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: the WLC100 is probably the "station" equivalent of the WP25 with temperature dial |
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<rkdavis> |
ok kid has list in his sticky paw -- i won't damage your ears with repeating what he said |
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<mozzwald> |
but I cannot vouch for it's quality/usability |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald: well even if it's crap i can still use it if only to repair wife's jewellery |
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<rkdavis> |
at worst it only has to be ok for the mods on 3 zipits and even the crappiest irol will hold up for that |
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<rkdavis> |
and a new tip shoudl be ok for that too as ling as it's thin enough and doesn't breeak down too quickly |
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<rkdavis> |
just i haven't bought anything like a soldering iron or anything since before i left the uk -- i came here with a big suit case of tools and stuff before theey banned such things from planes and before the wife pitched them |
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<rkdavis> |
and actually it was the bank i worked for that bought me all that stuff so it was top of the line radio spares kit |
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<rkdavis> |
with the odd bit of maplin stuff thrown in (before maplin went all consumer) |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: always buy extra tips. :) and tip tinner/cleaner. I have used the AOYUE 936 which was not bad. |
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<mozzwald> |
rkdavis: can't verify, but this appears to be the same as the weller station http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=374-100&FTR=374-100&CFID=1751923&CFTOKEN=14219084 |
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<rkdavis> |
of course this being america god knows where i'll find a grounded socket :) |
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<rkdavis> |
that is probably one of the biggest things i miss from the uk grounded sockets and replaceable fuses in plugs |
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<LT[LC]> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
heck you eeven have a special class in most english junior schools on how to replace a fuse and wire a plug safely |
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<rkdavis> |
it's fun watching 30 kids all trying not to electricute themselves and trying to rememebr if blue or red is neutral |
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<rkdavis> |
i still remember the method of rememebring which way round to wire it -- bLue == left, bRown == right and if it's stripy then in the middle it goes as it's 50/50 |
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<rkdavis> |
american power plugs drive me nuts because you just can't replace and 95% are not grounded |
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<ang> |
mozzwald: i'm not sure when it's arriving....ups.com has it listed as 'in transit' since the 10th. guessing it's on a truck somehwere :-/ |
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<rkdavis> |
ang: they have decided to take it on a scenic trip |
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<rkdavis> |
the zipit asked to go to see the taj mahal |
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<ang> |
rkdavis: seems so. i'm not sure where stuff that amazon ships for target.com orginates from |
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<ang> |
my memory card came from new hampshire, so i had it in 2 days |
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<rkdavis> |
ang: not sure but i had something from amazon recently it went from st. louis to deleware to pennsylvania to newark new jersey to chicago to new jeersey to new york |
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<rkdavis> |
it was about 150 miles away from me for 4 days before it arrived on the 7th day |
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<rkdavis> |
it was 15 miles from me for 3 of those days too |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I'll play with pxa3 for a while now ... please try verifying your toolchain is ok :) |
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<rkdavis> |
i rang to ask if i could pick it up from the depot and they said no it had to go through the systeem |
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<ang> |
heh: http://wtfmoogle.com/ |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<ogmious09> |
rkdavis now i know you're here |
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<rkdavis> |
only for a few |
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<rkdavis> |
injecting the cat that off to the store |
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<rkdavis> |
the italy vs paraguay on espn |
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<ogmious09> |
well just popped in, haven't been here in awhile so I was just saying hello |
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<rkdavis> |
ogmious09: hello |
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<ogmious09> |
hello |
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<rkdavis> |
well cat injected now to buy foodstuff for dinner -- not decided what yet -- thinking pernil |
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<rkdavis> |
but not sure if i have time to make it as it takes ages |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I will try another toolchain and see what happens |
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<mozzwald> |
ang: well, I hope you get it soon |
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<ang> |
mozzwald: ditto :) thx. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok back and footie on tv yay |
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<rkdavis> |
heh the italians are diving already |
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<netbook> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
so far they have only scored a 6.95 for the dive but i'l expecting all 10s by the end of the tournoment |
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<rkdavis> |
very hard to get a ref to book anyone when the nearest player was 3 metres from you |
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<rkdavis> |
when you take the dive but it is early yet |
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<rkdavis> |
yay paraguay scored!!!!!!!!!!! |
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<Conrad-T-Pino> |
Good afternoon Zipits! |
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<rkdavis> |
morning Conrad-T-Pino |
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<rkdavis> |
actually post-noon so afternoon |
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<Lydia`> |
Hiya rkdavis |
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<rkdavis> |
hi Lydia` |
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<Lydia`> |
What's going on lately? |
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<Lydia`> |
zipit wise |
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<rkdavis> |
Lydia`: well marex is going great guns with improving/fixing uboot -- i've bricked a couple fo zipits, mozzwald has a nice ubuntu based rootfs and i still haven't won the lottery |
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<Lydia`> |
Neat! |
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<Lydia`> |
Bummer on the Zipits and the Lottery of course |
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<Lydia`> |
I've been busy here and there |
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<Lydia`> |
I MUNGED my rootnexus distro |
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<Lydia`> |
so i need to reinstall it |
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<Lydia`> |
(Mash Until No Good) |
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<Lydia`> |
using the apt-get updates |
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<rkdavis> |
Lydia`: give mozzwalds ubuntu based rootfs a go (unless you need X of courseas i don't think that's in there atm) |
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<Lydia`> |
rkdavis, yeah I noticed X isn't ready last time I saw |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh italy tied it up |
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<mozzwald> |
I should prolly do a writeup on how to install xorg, eh? |
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<Lydia`> |
mozzwald, oh that's your baby? COOL! |
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<Lydia`> |
I love Ubuntu |
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<Lydia`> |
I perfer using Fluxbox anymore for the UI though |
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<smartasstronaut> |
fluxbox = win |
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<Lydia`> |
the gdm system is so bloated it seems now |
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<mozzwald> |
Lydia: you should setup fluxbox on z2buntu. :) |
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<Lydia`> |
fluxbox is fast and does what it needs to then gets out of the way |
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<Lydia`> |
I use it on my main workstation |
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<Lydia`> |
mozzwald, that's an idea for sure |
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<NeonLichT> |
Fluxbox id bloated XDDD I use Ion3 |
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<Lydia`> |
that's a Chipset isn't it? |
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<Lydia`> |
Nvidia Ion or something |
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<Lydia`> |
NEVERMIND, i googled it |
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<Lydia`> |
If you don't want bloat try twm! :-P |
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<smartasstronaut> |
i hear good stuff about the awesome window manager |
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<Lydia`> |
interesting, I'll try that one and see how it goes |
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<smartasstronaut> |
i prefer lightweight apps, just haven't spent any time messing with it |
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<mozzwald> |
no armel version of ion for ubuntu, but there is for awesome |
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<smartasstronaut> |
later |
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<netbook> |
well a paraguay italy tie is kind of like a paraguay win |
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<netbook> |
like how the US won against England |
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<netbook> |
i am rooting for usa (i suppose) and the nederlands |
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<azend> |
any chance for android on the zipit? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis, are you around |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: wrt what you mentioned -- use the cozybits firmware and publish the license in the rootfs and on the webpage you should be ok |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I think you lost me, I'm not publishing my own userland, just a guide to installing the existing ones |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Just asking if ZipItWireless would object to a mention of ZootNexus linked to the wiki since it includes the wifi binaries |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: ok i misread then i thought you were going to put up the rootfs too |
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<rkdavis> |
i'd avoid the rootnexus if i were you -- mention it but don't link it |
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<rkdavis> |
as unless he fixed it before he went awol it was skating very close to thee edge and for a while was over the edge |
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<azend> |
pssht :P I got it with all the games still in it :D |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
OK, I just remember I had to put together infomation from a lot of sites and then had to come here to get Aliosa27 running, I'm just going to agregate what I learned. |
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<azend> |
yes but were you going from stock? |
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<azend> |
going from rootfs to rootfs is easy |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: good idea, apart from rootnexus you'll be ok as i don't think anyone else incl. the wifi firmware at any stage |
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<azend> |
I'm sorry aliosa27 but I like mozzwald's ubuntu build better |
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<azend> |
cept I'm a noob who can't figure out how to install Xorg |
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<azend> |
haha sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop |
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<azend> |
now that would be sadistic |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: I'll try to get up an install guide soon. I managed to get X working with a few tweaks |
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<azend> |
orly? |
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<azend> |
does that mean I can get prboom working? :D |
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<rkdavis> |
ok have to stop watching my film for a bit -- video card is 100 degreecs C which can't be good |
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<mozzwald> |
time for me to head home |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Cool, I'll have to order another SD, I've been wanting to try your Ubuntu |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: you can have prboom now if you want to use a decent rootfs :) i.e. iz2s :) |
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<azend> |
I could too if I used aliosa or rootnexus but my minisd card converter broke |
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<azend> |
so I can only use openssh-server to transfer |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: actually mine might work on your rootfs as i built it static iirc |
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<azend> |
FiftyOneFifty: it's very empty but it works well and there is alot less bugs |
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<azend> |
still missing alot of packages tho |
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<azend> |
cool |
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<azend> |
ttyl |
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<azend> |
hey rkdavis did you ever finish the setup-wifi script? |
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<azend> |
in my rootfs I should just put that script in init.d |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: i need you send me the version you have as i have about 15 different versions atm here so i'll use yours |
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<rkdavis> |
and fix that one |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I took most of my instruction from the quantumlime page, along with hunterdavis, but I still had to come here to find out where to get the wpa_supplicant arm debs. RootNexus didn't yet exist. |
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<azend> |
rkdavis: kk I'll get it to you later |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls wifey walking in and she'll want to tell me about her day :( |
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<Marex> |
ok ... littleton ethernet patched |
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<Marex> |
next up, colibri |
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<rkdavis> |
heh a friend is looking for a new car -- he can't decide between a porsche 911 or a bugati veyron -- nice to have that problem isn't it |
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<Marex> |
:D |
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<azend_> |
I wish I had that problem :( |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I just checked noser.de for prices of their BSPs |
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<Marex> |
(they _sell_ patched u-boot and linux kernel ... of course the patches are not available) |
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<Marex> |
E5000 ... that's like what, $8000 ? |
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<Marex> |
maybe more ... |
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<rkdavis> |
yup give or take |
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<Marex> |
I so hate that company ... |
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<Marex> |
but ... there's OpenPXA ... the contents is more or less the same as their BSP modulo tech support over phone |
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<Marex> |
price ... $0 |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<Marex> |
+ I have a real motivation to make OpenPXA better than their BSP |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<Marex> |
I'm a Stallman-kind of a person ... what would you expect ? |
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<rkdavis> |
and with that motivation you will |
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<Marex> |
I will ... go to bed |
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<Marex> |
gnight ;-) |
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<azend> |
rkdavis: I have this version |
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<azend> |
# setup-wifi-debian.sh 08/04/10-2 aka Easy Wifi Configurator -- EWoC |
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<azend> |
# By Russell K. Davis with input from jaldher, g8787, Ray Dios Haque and pcurtis |
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<azend> |
# Slightly modified for ubuntu by mozzwald |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: can you emaul it to me please |
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<rkdavis> |
i am not sure i stil have that version on my hd |
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<azend> |
yeah sure |
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<azend> |
do you want me to just pastebin it tho |
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<azend> |
that's alot easier |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: http://www.mozzwald.com/node/51 |
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<azend> |
ty mozzwald :D |
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<azend> |
rkdavis: |
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<azend> |
only 1 problem |
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<azend> |
if I really break it I can't get it back |
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<azend> |
because I don't have a minisd slot xD |
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<azend> |
mozzwald: have you found an mp3 player that works yet? |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: you are breaking your sd card slot? |
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<azend> |
no my sd slot works fine |
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<azend> |
my minisd to sd card broke |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: no. I've been busy messing with the uboot stuff |
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<azend> |
hmm darn |
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<mozzwald> |
ah. that sucks. no extras? |
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<azend> |
I have a bunch of options if they would just compile |
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<azend> |
does x boot on start by default? |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: yes pastebin will be ok |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: you said none from the repos worked? |
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<azend> |
no a bunch of them do |
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<azend> |
just not enough |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: no, you hafta type startx |
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<azend> |
or the ones for this platform |
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<azend> |
ubuntu repos don't have arm5 builds it seems |
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<azend> |
mostly anyways |
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<azend> |
I wish I could just make a zipit vm in virtualbox to break |
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<azend> |
see mp3blaster would work great |
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<azend> |
(except it only plays limited formats) |
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<azend> |
meh I'll probably do it anyways |
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<azend> |
I'm stupid like that :P |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: you run linux on your home computer? |
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<azend> |
yep |
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<mozzwald> |
what distro |
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<azend> |
all cept my server |
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<azend> |
ubuntu mostly |
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<azend> |
some debian |
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<mozzwald> |
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch |
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<mozzwald> |
that should get you a working qemu image |
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<azend> |
cool |
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<azend> |
and qemu images will run in virtualbox? |
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<azend> |
or is it not tuned enough for that |
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<mozzwald> |
you can only use jaunty tho as it's arm5 |
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<azend> |
yep |
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<mozzwald> |
I thought virtualbox was based on qemu |
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<azend> |
it is |
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<azend> |
but it's customized for desktops I think |
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<mozzwald> |
then it should work. or just install qemu as well |
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<azend> |
kk |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: did you change your sources.list in z2buntu? |
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<azend> |
nope |
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<mozzwald> |
ok |
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<azend> |
rkdavis: http://zipit.pastebin.com/UkdWGY7R |
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<azend> |
should I add anything? |
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<mozzwald> |
azend: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/armel/mpg321 |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: does the wpa_supplicant.conf have the " round the ascii key when you try to use ascii key? |
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<azend> |
round ascii key? |
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<azend> |
asterisk? |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: is it putting the " round the ascii wep key when you rey that option because the script is correct but obviously it's not working but it is correct unless you have something like differenmt indexes |
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<azend> |
hmm kk one sec |
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<azend> |
I'll check the output |
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<rkdavis> |
k thnx |
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<azend> |
yeah there are tons of breaks in it |
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<azend> |
but I think it did just associate :D |
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<azend> |
yay |
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<azend> |
for the first time |
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<azend> |
too bad you forget you're connecting over ssh :/ |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: one thing i probably need to deal with is spaces in the ssid -- that can cause problems, the ascii key too with spaces should be ok but and also the index |
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<azend> |
facepalm |
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<azend> |
it autoconnects because I put it in the /etc/network/interfaces to |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<azend> |
I tried twice and both times they look like crap |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: can you pastebin an example -- xx'ing out the ssid and password of course |
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<rkdavis> |
i just want to see where is is line breraking |
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<azend> |
wait an example of what |
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<azend> |
because your script is graphical |
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<rkdavis> |
in the conf file |
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<rkdavis> |
as that is where the problem is |
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<ang> |
evening |
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<azend> |
gnight ang |
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<azend> |
I don't have a wpa_supplicant.cond |
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<azend> |
conf |
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<azend> |
that's probably the problem |
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<azend> |
azend@zipit-ubuntu:~$ ls /etc | grep *.conf |
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<azend> |
azend@zipit-ubuntu:~$ |
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<rkdavis> |
that is a problem :) |
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<mozzwald> |
hehe |
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<mozzwald> |
time for sleepy. nite |
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<rkdavis> |
you running as root? |
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<azend> |
night mozzwald |
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<azend> |
no but using sudo |
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<azend> |
how do you check the battery life? |
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<azend> |
I want to install wpa_supplicant without my zipit dieing during |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm the no conf file isn't good |
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<azend> |
I probably don't have it intalled |
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<rkdavis> |
azend: you don't already have wpa_supplicant? |
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<azend> |
one sec searching |
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<azend> |
I don't think so |
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<azend> |
never needed it |
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<rkdavis> |
well my script doesn't work without it |
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<azend> |
it would make sense if it broke without it then :P |
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<rkdavis> |
wpa_supplicant works better than iwconfig anyway iwconfig is very bad at keeping associations |
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<azend> |
Step 1: Check if wpa_supplicant is installed :P |
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<rkdavis> |
with wpa_supplicant i can stay online for weeks |
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<azend> |
wpa_supplicant isn't in the repos :( |
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<azend> |
azend@zipit-ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search wpa_supplicant |
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<azend> |
wpagui - graphical user interface for wpa_supplicant |
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<azend> |
azend@zipit-ubuntu:~$ |
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<azend> |
mind you it isn't in the ubuntu desktop lucid repos either |
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<azend> |
weird |
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<rkdavis> |
apt-get install wpasupplicant |
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<rkdavis> |
no underscore |
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<azend> |
why didn't I think of that xD |
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<rkdavis> |
but check with an apt-cache search first though as it might have changed |
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<ang> |
wicd is pretty nice, but i hink it uses python and hal ... surely you don't have either on the zipit :) |
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<rkdavis> |
pytjon yes (sortof in iz2s) in the others yes |
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<azend> |
I haz python I thinsk |
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<azend> |
yep python 2.6.2 |
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<ang> |
cool |
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<azend> |
hal maybe but why would you want it |
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<ang> |
i used wicd on my linux laptop to set up my wireless connection. couldn't be easier |
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<azend> |
most of the time I use gnome-network-manager |
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<azend> |
cept when it breaks and I have to fix it |
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<ang> |
heh. i always use blackbox |
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<rkdavis> |
ang: python is available but dynamic scripting lanfs on the zipit are not fun because of th lack of ram |
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<ang> |
rkdavis: yeah...hence my assumption it wasn't used |
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<ang> |
rkdavis: time for some lua i guess ;-) |
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<rkdavis> |
i did use it for a while but i prefer lean and blue |
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<ang> |
speaking of blue, how pissed were you when italy scored? :) |
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<rkdavis> |
ang yup :) i hadprosody running on my zipit |
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<rkdavis> |
also had erlang and ejabberd but we don't talk about that |
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<azend> |
I love the word erlang |
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<ang> |
rkdavis: how about perl? similar performance issues? |
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<rkdavis> |
only miniperl builds so why bother |
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<ang> |
bummer |
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<rkdavis> |
but i suspect it will have memory problems |
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<rkdavis> |
ruby too |
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<ang> |
yeah |
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<rkdavis> |
with swap maybe but that is againt my religeon |
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<ang> |
are you using the ash shell in iz2s or ez2s? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes but bash is available |
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<azend> |
rkdavis: http://zipit.pastebin.com/Si7bc7tt |
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<rkdavis> |
but the way iz2s works ash is still running |
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<rkdavis> |
X for wpasupplicant wtf!!!! |
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<azend> |
anyways I need to go to bed |
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<azend> |
ttyl |
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<azend> |
it's a messed up world |
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<azend> |
:P |
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<rkdavis> |
hmm its there maybe a path problem then |
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<rkdavis> |
night |
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