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<goobers> |
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<goobers> |
this chat is soo quiet is everyone busy compiling code for it |
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<Conrad-T-Pino> |
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<ahigerd> |
So |
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<ahigerd> |
I've pulled out my old Z2 again |
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<ahigerd> |
And I realized I'm still on an ANCIENT rootfs |
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<ahigerd> |
So... what's new around here in the last eight months? |
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<LT[LC]> |
the lack of activity pretty much answers that one |
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<ahigerd> |
Well, I haven't been in here much so I don't know if there's a lack of activity or not :P |
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<Marex> |
ahigerd: Z2 is supported by mainline linux kernel now |
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<ahigerd> |
That's good to know :) |
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<Marex> |
ahigerd: you need mainline uboot too |
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<Marex> |
and you control the loader through a script on the MMC card |
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<Marex> |
(and I need a rootfs for this setup) |
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<ahigerd> |
Hmm |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: is the rule for rootfs card layout available somewhere already ? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: nope, basically eeveryone who has released a rootfs has used their own partition layout -- the most common seems to be an ext2 partition, a swap partittion and a fat partition although some have the fat part in the right place, some have it in the wrongplace |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: then they can release a new version, can't they |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i thought we'd decided on a 100meg vfat partition for uImage and other stuff that might need to be written from windows), then a ext2/3 partition of variable size and optionally a swap partition in other words the rootfs will ALWAYS be mmcblk0p2 |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yes as you are the u-boot script guy it's basically up to you to /enforce/ the partition layout if peeople want to be able to use u-boot without having to make a script themselves |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: first partition has to be vfat, the size doesn't matter |
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<Marex> |
(if you want vfat there, then make it the first partition) |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I don't care if it's 16 or 100 megs ... enough to fit kernel (4 megs max anyway) + script (a few kb) |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: and mount it to /boot |
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<rkdavis> |
i like 100meg though it's big enough for anything that needs to fit there but not too big |
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<Marex> |
shuffling the partition layout shouldn't be a big deal |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: size > 16Mb ... that seems fine |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: so MMC: [[ >16Mb VFAT ][ Anything ]] |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: make it an iron rule |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
16 should be big enough for a couple of kernels, the wifi firmware and maybe the odd file so thats good |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: right ... maybe we should make it 8 megs |
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<Marex> |
people can upscale it anyway |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: ah ... let's leave it to 16 ... noone will miss that space |
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<Marex> |
fixup ... MMC: [[ >= 16Mb VFAT ][ Anything ]] |
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<Marex> |
mmcblk0p1 MUST BE MOUNTED TO /boot |
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<Marex> |
these two above are important ... ^ |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I'd like to hear comments from rootfs people |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: well good luck finding any |
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<rkdavis> |
:) the only one currently around is mozzwald |
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<rkdavis> |
aliosa27 pops up occasionaly |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph is gone and the sidetrack guy is never been in here |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: who's rootfs's are used ? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: are you fine with the layout ? |
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<rkdavis> |
marex aliosa27's debian but that's nearly 10 months old, rootnexus last updated around november and sidetrack around jan or feb |
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<ahigerd> |
I think I'm still using the original x-mouse-audio OE rootfs XD |
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<ahigerd> |
And I've only got a 128MB MiniSD card right now >.>; |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: i can't see any problem with that layout -- anyone who has the fat partittion at the front of the sd card already has it |
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<Marex> |
then we need a OE rootfs |
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<Marex> |
debian has very poor performance |
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<rkdavis> |
yup oe has been left as gpsfan doesn't really like it and it stagnated a bit as it couldn't build blob based rootfs since around december |
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<rkdavis> |
and everyone was using debian anyway other than gpsfan |
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<Marex> |
yes, but debian is really slow ... and it's compiler for armv4, not armv5 so the optimization sucks |
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<rkdavis> |
and sweetlilmre is the only one with commit privs other than aliosa27 |
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<Marex> |
so you can either recompile debian, or use OE |
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<Marex> |
and OE is imho the better choice |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: commit privs ... where ? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the problem with oe that gpsfan feels (and i sort of agree with) is that it's used for both kernel and rootfs building and hard to seperate out |
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<rkdavis> |
personally hee thinks and i agree the kernel shoudl be done outside of oe and oe shoudl just be fore the rootfs |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: so what ... I build everything with OE for my boards |
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<Marex> |
why ? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: openzipit.sourceforge.net -- where the zipit oe branch is |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: why don't you push it mainline ? |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: also, now that Z2 is in mainline, it should be only a matter of adding kernel config to OE |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: because as i've told you on many occasions i'm userspace orintated and i din't have the accounts on openzipit -- i've left the kernel to ppl like sweetlilmree and gpsfan |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: ok ... FTTB you can just reuse the spitz config for 2.6.34 |
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<rkdavis> |
and oe takes a hell of a long timee to build -- over 24 hours in my vm initially |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: that'll build a fake kernel (kernel for spitz) and then you'll replace it in the rootfs |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: don't build in VM then 3-/ |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: have to -- no linux boxees left at the momeent -- the ultrasparc is being used as a dev box for another client and this one has to stay as windows for the kids school work |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll see if i can get the passwords to the openzipit sourceforge account from sweetlilmre though , i'll email him in a bit |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: you can get me one as well |
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<rkdavis> |
i've actually been playing aroudn with buildroot for everything recently though |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: but it's stupid to keep the work out of mainline |
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<rkdavis> |
it's very finicky |
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<ahigerd> |
I used a Debian VM to build my OE |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yes it is but as i don't have access to it i can do nothing to push it |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: OE has patchtracker ... you send patches |
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<rkdavis> |
i've asked those that can push it to do it but i can't thwap them with a cold wet trout if they ignore the request |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: put the patches into the patchtracker and keep an eye on them |
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<rkdavis> |
i've actually been trying to get buildroot configured again to build z2 rootfs -- it broke on the .02 release |
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<rkdavis> |
something to do with the br2_board stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
the buildroot rootfs would be the lightest |
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<ahigerd> |
Yeah, but also the hardest to extend because BR doesn't do packages |
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<ahigerd> |
(unless I'm mistaken?) |
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<Marex> |
you can configure OE to build a lightweight rootfs too |
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<Marex> |
ahigerd: it can do ipk, but that's old crap |
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<Marex> |
opk is the way to go |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: it sort of does but it requires a bit more effort to add new stuff but after you've done it a few times it is pretty straight forward, very similar to writing bitbake recipes |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: so why not stick with OE in the end ... |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: because as i've said i'm not even using anything but scratchbox, tinycc and ash atm -- not had time to do anything with my other two zipits (and buildroot does the other cpu i need to make a rootfs for too :) ) |
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<Marex> |
then make someone else play with OE |
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<rkdavis> |
but the oe, uboot, rootfs stuff is not on my radar atm as i'm still in scripting mode for stock |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: but you are busy :) and until the lambs arrive gpsfan is playing with his bloody sheep :) |
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<rkdavis> |
i don't think ahigerd is doign much at the moment though |
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<rkdavis> |
brb |
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<ahigerd> |
I'm waaaay busy with other crap :( |
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<ahigerd> |
The only thing I have to contribute right now is a z2.py library for controlling the backlights :/ |
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<ahigerd> |
I think it might also have a battery monitor |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: I do the lowlevel work ... someone else has to do the userland, sorry |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: would you be able to post some updated instructions on how to install the new uboot? I saw your post from july of last year about how to install it. are those instruction still "valid"? |
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<Marex> |
nope |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I'd prepare a binary if I had time ... dang |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: wait ... |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: do you have serial console ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: if one had a binary of it, couldn't you just dd it to the proper mtdblock? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: yes |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: no ... it's too big |
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<mozzwald> |
I mean directly from the booted zipit? |
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<Marex> |
yes |
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<Marex> |
I flashed one Z2 that way |
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<Marex> |
I can't find the Z2 PSU ... |
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<Marex> |
hm, it's probably in the dorm |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: are you brave ? |
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<mozzwald> |
hehe. maybe |
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<Marex> |
let's do an experiment ... you have SD card with 1 VFAT partition at mmcblk0p1 |
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<Marex> |
? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: PM me your mail address |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I'm at work atm and shouldn't be messing with this. :) |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: check your email ... this version should work ;-) |
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<mozzwald> |
k |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: you'll need to "make uImage when compiling kernel" |
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<Marex> |
"make uImage" |
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<Marex> |
it won't load the standard zImage |
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<Marex> |
also, be aware that the final flash partition layout for Z2 is the following: |
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<Marex> |
[0x0-0x40000 u-boot][0x40000-0x60000 env][rest ...] |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: tell me if it works |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: another rule : |
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<Marex> |
NOR: [0x0-0x40000 u-boot][0x40000-0x60000 env][rest ...] |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: will do. I'll hafta do this in a few hours when I get home from work. You gunna be around to hold my hand? :) |
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<rkdavis> |
you mean the partitioning on the zipit? -- what about your idea of the kernel and initramfs on the zipit that it defaults too if no sd card |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: that's what "rest" is for |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: maybe we can have a small SWAP there :b |
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<rkdavis> |
ah ok -- so what happens is that u-boot defaults to booting that if it doesn't see a script on an sdcard -- correct? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: depends ... it's 11pm here |
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<Marex> |
nearly 11pm |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: exactly |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: ok makes sense -- so we'll also need /standard/ known kernel to install there and a small busybox based initramfs too -- base it on say .34 and teh zipits stock rootfs with the wifi firmware in it |
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<rkdavis> |
just something to bootstap a shell and do wifi |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: you can prepare the initramfs with buildroot ... that's what it'd be good for |
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<rkdavis> |
if we also include kexectools in the initramfs and enable it on the kernel |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: why? you can just drop uImage to the card |
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<Marex> |
(or fix your own bootscript for the bootloader) |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yup just a small light and tight one with the bare minimum |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: exactly ... maybe dropbear and wireless tools |
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<Marex> |
that should fit |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: kexec is always handy to have just in case |
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<rkdavis> |
say the vfat partition gets correcupt |
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<rkdavis> |
corrupted even |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: then you're screwed ;-) |
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<Marex> |
ok ... I see your point, that makes sense |
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<rkdavis> |
not neccessarily |
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<rkdavis> |
you could wget a new kernel and kexec it |
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<Marex> |
you have more than 7 megs for the kernel ... enable LZMA and you'll fit there |
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<rkdavis> |
but you could do it without anyway |
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<rkdavis> |
use busybox fdisk, redo the partition and format and away ya go |
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<Marex> |
and how do you load the kernel ? |
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<Marex> |
from where ? |
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<ahigerd> |
How big is kexec? |
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<ahigerd> |
Is it really big enough that we're worried about it? |
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<Marex> |
ahigerd: it's part of kernel |
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<ahigerd> |
I know that |
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<rkdavis> |
yup u-boot and a kernel would only be a meg or so and that'd leave upto 7,eeg for the rootfs in the flash |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: kernel would be more like 2 megs |
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<rkdavis> |
so prbably 10meg of compressed data give or take a few |
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<rkdavis> |
ok 6meg compressed then so maybe 9meg if we are lucky |
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<rkdavis> |
static busybox with everything is about 1.2meg |
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<rkdavis> |
wpa_supplicant and wirelesstools are about another 1.5meg |
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<rkdavis> |
but that's about all we'd need that aren't available from busybox so we could add lua in as well |
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<ahigerd> |
What would we do with lua...? |
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<Marex> |
right ... why lua ? |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: it's a nice scripting/glue lang. handy sometimes |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: because ruby, python... are too heavy |
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<ahigerd> |
I know what lua IS |
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<ahigerd> |
I'm just wondering what it's doing on an emergency rootfs |
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<rkdavis> |
runby and python will suck all the ram |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: i like to have it there in case i want to knock up a quick script that shell is not quite right for |
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<rkdavis> |
always handy to have a scripting lang |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: you should hold to general purpose emergency rootfs |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: so beef it up with tools that might be handy (mkfs, fsck) ... not lua |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: in my iz2s variant i have only 3 major things other than busybox, wpa-supplicant and wirelesstool -- lua, dialog and dropbear |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: they are in busybox so why bother |
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<rkdavis> |
if you have space use it -- on and i have curl too |
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<rkdavis> |
s/on/oh |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: why not links then ? |
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<ahigerd> |
Doesn't busybox have wget embedded? |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: because i don't do alot of browsing -- i have it in user versions of iz2s but not on my personal version |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: yes it does but curl is better for alot of things |
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<ahigerd> |
Fair enough |
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<rkdavis> |
wget isn't great at putting filees curl will get and put |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: fine, but we should prepare a general purpose rootfs ... |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: webbrowser might be much more handy |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yup and i think links isn't something that shoudl be in a initramfs, in rootfs yes but not in the onboard flash |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: you can emulate a browser quite well with curl and lua |
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<rkdavis> |
well curl and bash even but... |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: also static links is about 2 to 3 meeg at least |
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<rkdavis> |
and still about 900k shared -- too large for initramfs |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: lynx then |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: just compile it without lua and see how much is left |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: lua is 200k |
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<rkdavis> |
actually a bit less but i add a few extras to my version |
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<rkdavis> |
just checked -- static links is over 5meg and static lynx is 2meg |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: please keep in mind we're going to release it ... |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: ok ... put lynx into it |
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<Marex> |
it'll fit |
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<rkdavis> |
Marex: yup it'll be tight but shoudl just squeeze in |
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<rkdavis> |
but it'll be very tight -- adding up the sizes of all the thing si have hear -- and stripped it's 7meg |
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<rkdavis> |
but i guess wpa_passphrase can be lived without |
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<rkdavis> |
brb |
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<rkdavis> |
need to check on the chicken in the oven |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: LZMA compression should do the job |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: we need also hotplug/coldplug to load the wifi firmware ! |
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<geordy> |
Does anyone in here have an ISA vga card they would be willing to part with? |
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<ahigerd> |
Uh |
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<ahigerd> |
Maybe |
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<ahigerd> |
Yeah, the SpeedStar Pro is ISA, now the question is if I can find the darn thing |
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<geordy> |
it's ISA an not a VLB? |
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<ahigerd> |
Oh, I dunno |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: i'm not here but damn i just freecycled 3 boxes of isa cards of various types |
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<rkdavis> |
but i'll see if i can find the other two bags |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: i found the bag with the pci and agp cards so the isa ones should be close -- any particular make and size of card required? |
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<geordy> |
no make or size required. Just looking for something that will hopefully work in 8-bit mode |
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<geordy> |
apparently a lot of them will |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
give me a few hours as there are still several boxes i haven't looked in yet |
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<rkdavis> |
and the bag i thiionk there are some in is under 4 other bags |
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<Marex> |
FU*K |
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<Marex> |
libata is buggered |
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<Marex> |
badly |
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<beaglebreath> |
geordy :: I have my prized collection of old 8-bit cards. I was planning on making a 386sx computer for fun, but I never got around to it. |
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<geordy> |
oh? |
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<beaglebreath> |
If you want I've got a vga card with just the ISA part of the connector (without the extended ISA portion) |
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<geordy> |
So it's a true 8-bit vga card? |
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<beaglebreath> |
Let me find it, and we'll see. |
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<geordy> |
I bought an IBM XT the other day for the heck of it |
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<beaglebreath> |
well, I found some old CGA cards... |
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<geordy> |
but I don't have an ega monitor :( |
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<geordy> |
or CGA |
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<geordy> |
hehe |
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<beaglebreath> |
here's my 287 coprocessor! |
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<geordy> |
but like I was saying, most of the VGA cards will work in 8-bit mode so I hear |
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<geordy> |
sweet! a 287 |
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<beaglebreath> |
I've got a complete PC104 computer with a VGA port. - but It'd be a science project since you'll have to burn eproms to hold your programs |
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<beaglebreath> |
and here's my Hayes smartmodem 2400 |
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<geordy> |
lol |
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<geordy> |
I kinda wish I hadn't chucked all that stuff years ago |
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<beaglebreath> |
I always regret that. It's usually two days after storing something for 15 years. |
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<geordy> |
If I hadn't chucked a bunch of stuff over the years, I'd be swimming in it which I would regret even more. |
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<geordy> |
I'm thinking of doing a hunter davis style contest on my blog though |
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<beaglebreath> |
anyone need word perfect 5.0 on 5.5 inch floppies? |
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<geordy> |
dosbox on the zipit perhaps? |
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<geordy> |
how cool would that be? A zipit with a 5.25" fdd interface |
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<beaglebreath> |
oh the posibilities... |
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<beaglebreath> |
got win 3.11 on 3.25 disks 1 through 11 |
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<geordy> |
better save that or you WILL regret it |
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* |
Marex has MSDOS 5.0 on three 5.25 floppies :) |
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<beaglebreath> |
I've got MS-DOS 4.01 & 6.0 on 5.25 and then MS-DOS 6.22 upgrade on 3.25 |
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<beaglebreath> |
I've gone though my old boxes of treasure at my office. My 386 stuff must be at home... |
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<geordy> |
ah. lmk if you find one ;-) |
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<Marex> |
beaglebreath: ah ... windows 1.01 :) |
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<Marex> |
beaglebreath: what a treasure :) |
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<Marex> |
though I was never able to install it in qemu or anything :/ |
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<geordy> |
I had windows 1.03RT I think |
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<geordy> |
it was a runtime version packed with an early version of pagemaker I think |
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<geordy> |
it worked |
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<geordy> |
it was weird |
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<beaglebreath> |
i got really really lucky. i bought a calibration business six years ago and now have 5000 sq.ft of old electronic junk to play with. |
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<geordy> |
that's pretty cool |
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<beaglebreath> |
yeah, it's more stuff than I can play with in a life time. |
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<geordy> |
surely not all of it is interesting |
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<geordy> |
what is the oldest stuff in there? |
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<beaglebreath> |
before this i was trying to build a spectrum analyzer out of an old scope and a scanner radio. now I have four hp spectrum analyzers and no time to play with them. |
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<beaglebreath> |
most prized possesion is a AN/USM-339 analog oscilloscope. |
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<geordy> |
I just snagged a tek 465b off CL for $100 |
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<geordy> |
I thought that was fair |
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<geordy> |
I haven't had time to plug it in and play with it yet though :( |
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<beaglebreath> |
is that a scope? |
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<geordy> |
yeah |
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<geordy> |
one of the most popular analog scopes ever built |
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<beaglebreath> |
i have three 475's that are fubar if you need parts or knobs etc.. |
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<beaglebreath> |
does it have a gpib adapter? |
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<geordy> |
sweet! hold onto those. I understand the knobs are hard to come by |
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<geordy> |
no clue what gpib is |
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<geordy> |
it come with several probes though |
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<geordy> |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tektronix_465_Oscilloscope.jpg |
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<beaglebreath> |
looks like an old centronics printer connection except only 3/4 of the length. it is the digital communication connection back to a computer for automating your measurements. |
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<geordy> |
nooooo, this scope is too old for that |
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<Marex> |
netsplit ? |
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<beaglebreath> |
geordy :: i just saw that picture and went running back into my warehouse. the 475 looks just like it except the channel select buttons are a little smaller. I also have a bunch of TEK 2445's in various condition. |
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<geordy> |
hmmm. all yours are fubar though? that sucks :( |
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<beaglebreath> |
i own a calibration shop. we could probably get a whole one running in a pinch. also there's an auction next month in Fairbanks. it's for alyeska pipeline. my database is showing that they have 13 of the tektronics 465b. |
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<DoorToDoorGeek> |
hey mozzwald |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: hey ... |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: wait before you flash the device ... I'm about to try new uboot |
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<Marex> |
whoops ... I accidentally nearly killed the Z2 |
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<dTal> |
So there was some discussion earlier today as to what would be an appropriate browser for an emergency initramfs. |
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<Marex> |
lynx |
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<dTal> |
Yes, I read that. I just wanted to put in a good word for 'retawq'. |
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<dTal> |
I switched to it on my zipit because elinks was too slow and ram-hungry. |
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<dTal> |
Couldn't say how big it would be compiled statically, but it doesn't depend on much and is *tiny*. |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: new uboot didn't work so well? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: new uboot is fine |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: I'll send you an updated package |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: can you compile kernel ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I tried earlier, but got error about needing mkimage |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: do you run debian ? |
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<mozzwald> |
ubuntu |
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<mozzwald> |
so yes |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: try apt-get install uboot-mkimage |
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<mozzwald> |
k |
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<Marex> |
ubuntu != debian ... so no |
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<mozzwald> |
close. |
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<Marex> |
recompiling u-boot |
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<Marex> |
once you have U-Boot installed, you can always try if the new version runs prior flashing it |
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<Marex> |
you just load the binary over ymodem to 0x5c000000 (loady 0x5c000000) and then Control-A S ymodem ...send u-boot.bin |
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<Marex> |
once finished, "go 0x5c000000" |
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<Marex> |
the new uboot starts |
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<Marex> |
one more stupid typo ... hang on |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: ok, are you ready ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: kernel is compiled. need to switch computers |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: ok ... here you go |
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<Marex> |
http://marex.hackndev.com/zipitz2/U-Boot.rel.Jun-03-2010.tar.bz2 |
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<Marex> |
anyone willing to test U-Boot ... here's the link |
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<Marex> |
all you need to do is compile mainline kernel (make uImage) and drop it to mmcblk0p1, which has to be VFAT |
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<Marex> |
rkdavis: ^ |
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<Marex> |
if I use LZMA compressed kernel though, it takes 20 seconds to leave the loader |
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<Marex> |
ok ... 15 seconds ... 2 seconds is the bootloader timeout, the rest is uncompressing the LZMA |
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<Marex> |
ah ... suspend-to-mem is probably busted and needs to be revisited |
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<Marex> |
standby works though ... weird |
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<Marex> |
maybe it's time to review the wakeup macro then |
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<rkdavis> |
ok back from the laundry -- what did i miss? |
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<geordy> |
has anyone tested uboot with a serial mod yet? |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: any luck tracking down that ISA VGA yet? |
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<Marex> |
geordy: I did ;-) |
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<geordy> |
what are the settings? |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: nope not yet but i know what you need you want the one with only the 8bit connector not the 16bit extension |
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<Marex> |
geordy: 115200 8N1 |
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<rkdavis> |
i was at the laundry so didn't get a chance to look yet |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: uboot copied over fine, but can't get the kernel to boot. so I need a vfat partition at the begining of the card with uImage on it, right? |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: sweetlilmre and gpsfan have used the serial mod with uboot |
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<geordy> |
ic |
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<geordy> |
has anyone tried it with blob? lol |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: right ... you get the U-Boot prompt ? |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: From serial, uboot says no mmc card found |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: insert the card then |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: yes gpsfan, sweetlilmre and a myriad others |
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<geordy> |
alright alright so it's just MY problem |
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<geordy> |
doh |
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<Marex> |
geordy: the link I posted here is an uboot update package for stock Z2 |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: prompt is working |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: ok, if you pop in the card and type "mmc init" ... what happens ? |
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<geordy> |
rkdavis: btw, supposedly most/many 16-bit VGA cards will work in 8-bit mode if there is room for the extended connector to overhang the slot |
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<geordy> |
8-bit ISA VGA is pretty freakin' scarce but if you magically find me one, I'll send you something really cool |
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<ahigerd> |
I had one at my last job |
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<ahigerd> |
Er, wait, no, that was PCI, never mind |
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<geordy> |
hehe I was going to say... |
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<mozzwald> |
still says no mmc found |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I also get "Wrong image format for bootm command" |
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<Marex> |
yeah ... because you don't have kernel image at 0x60000 in flash |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: can you try a different card ? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: or ... what card do you have ? |
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<mozzwald> |
MArex: just did. that seems to be the problem |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: your card isn't detected ? |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: don't joke with me ... is isn't ?! |
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<mozzwald> |
Marex: I had a 4gb card and it would not detect at all. just put in a 1gb and it found it fine |
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<Marex> |
4GB SDHC ? |
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<Marex> |
could it be U-Boot doesn't support that ? |
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<Marex> |
hmmmm ... |
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<Marex> |
I'll try SDHC when I have time |
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<Marex> |
mozzwald: check your email |
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<Marex> |
dTal: you had those wifi issues, right ? |
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<Marex> |
dTal: try firmware from here and let me know how it works http://git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git?a=tree;f=libertas ... I'll forward it |
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<geordy> |
so is uboot totally stable now? |
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<ssieb> |
geordy: I checked through my collection of ancient cards and the only 8-bit video cards are cga/ega |
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<Marex> |
geordy: suspend-to-mem seems to be buggered |
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<Marex> |
geordy: standby works fine though |
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<rkdavis> |
geordy: ok not in those bags but i have some boxes in the kids room i'll look in therein the morning -- havee a mice pci video card with tv out and what looks to be a tuner daughter board though, bloody huge but cool looking :) and what looks to be one of my collection of isa floppy controllers wither external floppy connector |
