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<valium1> |
Hello everybody! |
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<valium1> |
hi rkdavis |
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<valium1> |
I installed an external antenna on my zipit.... why? Because I could lol. |
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<adnyxo> |
morning |
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<valium1> |
morning |
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<valium1> |
how are you today adnyxo? |
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<adnyxo> |
fine |
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<adnyxo> |
sleepy |
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<adnyxo> |
but i found an awesome looking new device |
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<valium1> |
love gadgets, what is it? |
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<adnyxo> |
the touchbook from alwaysinnovating |
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<adnyxo> |
its such a hacker friendly device |
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<adnyxo> |
im ordering mine today |
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<adnyxo> |
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ |
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<valium1> |
with or without keyboard? |
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<adnyxo> |
with |
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<adnyxo> |
well im getting the tablet |
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<adnyxo> |
and they are giving away keyboards |
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<adnyxo> |
for now |
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<adnyxo> |
what da ya think |
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<adnyxo> |
cant wait to put android on it |
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<valium1> |
well, aside from the extra battery in the keyboard, I can't justify the extra $100 they are listing, but if they are giving away the keyboard with it, then thats sweet |
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<valium1> |
along with the user replaceable battery, thats sweet |
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<adnyxo> |
yep |
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<adnyxo> |
i wouldnt pay 100 for the battery and keyboard |
| [08:52:52] |
<adnyxo> |
plus with the replaceable battery means you can upgrade the tablet battery |
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<valium1> |
considering that you can plug in a usb keyboard to the tablet if you really need to |
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<adnyxo> |
but for free... |
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<valium1> |
it says you can put your USB dongles inside it |
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<valium1> |
I'm thinking wireless keyboard adapter and a DIY stand for later users |
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<valium1> |
I have my netbook for portability though |
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<valium1> |
everywhere I use it has somewhere I can sit down |
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<valium1> |
but then again, I can hold it in one hand really easy as well |
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<adnyxo> |
exactly |
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<adnyxo> |
have you seen the iphone game they ported to it? |
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<valium1> |
nope |
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<adnyxo> |
its capable hardware |
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<adnyxo> |
just needs devs |
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<adnyxo> |
like lots of stuff really |
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<valium1> |
lol, of course it will run andriod.... it uses the same procesor as the droid |
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<valium1> |
it's kind of funny really |
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<adnyxo> |
and the iphone i believe |
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<valium1> |
a computer running on a chip that is made for cell phones.... where have I heard this before |
| [08:59:32] |
<valium1> |
the iphone has an ARMv11 I believe |
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<adnyxo> |
where could it be... |
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<valium1> |
oh wait, the original macintosh classics used the 68k processors that were in motorola bag-phones |
| [09:00:35] |
<valium1> |
oh hey, motorola again. |
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<adnyxo> |
wow |
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<adnyxo> |
i didnt know that |
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<adnyxo> |
thats funny |
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<adnyxo> |
but hey, if used right 600 mhz can work really well |
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<valium1> |
I didn't know it until I took my old bag-phone apart |
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<valium1> |
it used right yeah, it can |
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<valium1> |
remember, the original xbox had a 733 celeron and 64 meg of ram shared between it and the nvidia geforce 3 |
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<valium1> |
but it still did a good job with HL2 |
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<adnyxo> |
exactly |
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<adnyxo> |
i am also partly excited about the philosophy of this company |
| [09:02:51] |
<valium1> |
even my dual core 3.6GHz machine with 256MB ATI card only gets 15-19fps on HL2 |
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<adnyxo> |
super community friendly |
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<valium1> |
open platform, always dig it |
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<valium1> |
hence, zipit |
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<valium1> |
I feel sorry for the folks at peek mobile, they want linux on their device so bad. |
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<adnyxo> |
plus, the creator takes a couple open digs at apple |
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<adnyxo> |
that email/twitter thing? |
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<valium1> |
yeah, that thing |
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<adnyxo> |
oh, the thing nobody wants |
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<valium1> |
they didn't design it, thats their problem |
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<valium1> |
if I had one, and could use the 3g, even if just for SSH, I'd be happy |
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<valium1> |
I have need for an SSH device that I can stick in my pocket and take anywhere |
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<valium1> |
speaking of things in my pocket, my router just died, so I took the antenna off of it and attached it to my zipit |
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<valium1> |
I get a little better range now |
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<valium1> |
plus it says, 'Look at me, I have a big antenna, that makes me cool' |
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<adnyxo> |
lol sounds like a good idea |
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<adnyxo> |
but lets not speak of anything else in your pocket |
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<valium1> |
trouble is, now it doesn't fit in my pocket |
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<valium1> |
lemme ask you, what do you use your zipit for most of the time? |
| [09:10:39] |
<adnyxo> |
mostly browsing |
| [09:10:51] |
<adnyxo> |
light gaming |
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<valium1> |
I use mine for the internet radio. I have a nice speaker that the zipit can drive. |
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<adnyxo> |
just fun to tinker with |
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<valium1> |
I'm still trying to determine what it is that makes some SD cards readable, and some not |
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<adnyxo> |
i think everyone is |
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<valium1> |
I know that SD can use either MMC mode (SPI) or the faster SD interface |
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<valium1> |
but SPI mode is optional on the micro SD cards |
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<valium1> |
but that's not it |
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<valium1> |
turns out that the zipit uses SD mode. |
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<valium1> |
from what I'm hearing, it's a speed/timing issue |
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<valium1> |
cant be too fast, can't be too slow |
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<adnyxo> |
i want to use a higher class card in the zipit |
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<adnyxo> |
but i cant see a difference in performance |
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<adnyxo> |
so who knowe |
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<valium1> |
maybe I should find out the classes of cards that work versus cards that dont |
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<adnyxo> |
s |
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<valium1> |
they (zipit wireless) should open up the hardware a little more, let us have a peek at things |
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<valium1> |
like the internal layers on the board |
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<adnyxo> |
yea |
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<valium1> |
we could finally find the elusive USB host port |
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<valium1> |
they have given us part numbers for the expansion port |
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<adnyxo> |
yea |
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<adnyxo> |
wish we had usb |
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<adnyxo> |
thats why the didj is taking off |
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<valium1> |
I've seen that, looks realy neat |
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<adnyxo> |
i bouth one of those |
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<adnyxo> |
bought |
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<adnyxo> |
as well |
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<valium1> |
you don't happen to read hackaday, do you? |
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<valium1> |
http://hackaday.com/?=didj |
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<adnyxo> |
yea i do actually |
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<adnyxo> |
http://hackaday.com/2010/03/28/leapfrog-didj/ |
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<rkdavis> |
i have spent nearly 2 years walking 14 blocks to the post office if i need to mail something, just discovered that there is one 4 blocks away but in the other direction to the way i normally go when i'm off to the store |
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<valium1> |
lol |
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<g8787> |
I'm sure the guys with the diji are wishing for wifi and a keyboard. Under $50 I won't complain to much about the lack of usb. |
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<g8787> |
has anyone got dosbox working on a debian-based userland? |
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<g8787> |
mine keeps seg faulting no matter how far I crank the settings down it seems. |
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<valium1> |
what userland are you using, g8787? |
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<g8787> |
side-track |
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<valium1> |
thats based off of the rootnexus IIRC |
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<g8787> |
yep |
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<valium1> |
I've had a ton of segfaults in the rootnexus distro |
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<g8787> |
just in general? |
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<valium1> |
apt-get being one of them |
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<g8787> |
yikes |
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<g8787> |
I don't have that problem |
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<g8787> |
I've apt-gotten a ton of packages without a hitch |
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<valium1> |
what size card? |
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<g8787> |
4gb card |
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<valium1> |
is your swap big enough? |
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<g8787> |
I can't even figure out if my swap is mounting |
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<g8787> |
lol |
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<valium1> |
hmm... |
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<g8787> |
df gives me kind of a weird list compared to what I'm used to (which was redhat) |
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<valium1> |
I'm trying to remember how to check that |
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<g8787> |
swap isn't listed in df |
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<g8787> |
for me at least |
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<valium1> |
what does df tell you? |
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<valium1> |
oh, not listed |
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<g8787> |
yeah |
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<valium1> |
try mount maybe? |
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<valium1> |
ok, try this |
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<valium1> |
free -m |
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<g8787> |
I have the root ext3, 5 tmpfs partitions, points and proc |
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<g8787> |
total used free shared buffers cached |
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<g8787> |
Mem: 28 27 1 0 0 12 |
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<g8787> |
-/+ buffers/cache: 13 14 |
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<g8787> |
Swap: 125 55 69 |
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<g8787> |
says it's there. does that mean it's mounted? |
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<valium1> |
well, I would take that to mean that your swap is working |
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<valium1> |
but if you notice, you have 1 meg of physical RAM free |
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<g8787> |
dosbox will run outside of x, right? |
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<valium1> |
I think so |
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<valium1> |
it's sdl |
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<g8787> |
how do you exit out of x cleanly? It seems like the scripts are broken |
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<valium1> |
TBH, I'm not sure, I would start with a fresh boot and drop to shell, before x starts |
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<g8787> |
I just rebooted and have 0 free now |
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<g8787> |
lol |
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<g8787> |
but way more swap |
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<valium1> |
I've been doing some looking, apparently that is normal behavior |
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<g8787> |
which distro are you running? |
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<valium1> |
I'm not anymore, I went back to stock |
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<g8787> |
your using it as an IM device? |
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<valium1> |
I got to aggravated with the segfaults |
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<valium1> |
using for the internet radio mostly |
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<g8787> |
oic |
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<valium1> |
I have iz2s |
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<valium1> |
if I want to play |
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<g8787> |
strange, I haven't had any segfaults aside from dosbox |
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<valium1> |
did you compile or apt the binary? |
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<g8787> |
apt |
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<valium1> |
could be why |
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<g8787> |
I still haven't managed to get my xcc running yet |
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<g8787> |
the bin from apt is built for arm |
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<g8787> |
not specific to this one though of course |
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<valium1> |
did you se the hunder davis post? |
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<g8787> |
I did but I didn't quite understand the bitbaking and stuff |
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<valium1> |
thats for OE |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: which version of IZ2S are you using? ray's original or my /enhanced/ version |
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<valium1> |
I havent gotten your enhanced version yet |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: ok |
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<valium1> |
been busy with other things |
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<rkdavis> |
same here, have to take a break from it for a few days as i have proper stuff to finish up but i'm planning another release in the next week or so |
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<g8787> |
valium1: what do you mean by "thats for OE"? |
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<valium1> |
open embedded |
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<valium1> |
different from debian |
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<valium1> |
I don't have all the details, but maybe rkdavis can tell you more about it |
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<rkdavis> |
eh what? sorry was looking at the wall? |
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<g8787> |
I'm sure rk is sick of explaining things to me by now ;) |
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<g8787> |
I'm trying to get dosbox running |
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<valium1> |
you aren't a gummiworm, are you? |
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<g8787> |
a gummiworm? |
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<rkdavis> |
no i hate them theey need killing :) |
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<rkdavis> |
g8787: my blog title |
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<rkdavis> |
g8787: in which distro do you want dosbox running in? |
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<g8787> |
side-track |
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<rkdavis> |
g8787: ok so you'll need to d/l the source and make the mods that hunter made for oe and then recompile it |
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<g8787> |
ic. so the apt-gotten version will never work in a million years... |
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<rkdavis> |
iirc he just changed screen resolution and a couple of other small tweaks |
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<rkdavis> |
g8787: nope because it wants a larger screen at least |
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<rkdavis> |
hunter had to change that for a start |
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<rkdavis> |
probably needs a newer sdl too iirc it is sdl based |
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<g8787> |
I would have figured all that could have been changed via the conf but what do I know? |
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<rkdavis> |
i think alot can but the screen res is semi-hard coded |
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<rkdavis> |
let me look at hunters post again |
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<rkdavis> |
yup he had to change the source for screen resolution |
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<rkdavis> |
Modifying Sources |
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<rkdavis> |
Head into your dosbox source directory (or the dosbox/src directory in your OE bitbake tree) and do a |
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<rkdavis> |
"grep -r "640" ./* ". |
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<rkdavis> |
This will return all the source files containing video mode switches. You're going to want to change all the SDL function calls from 640,480 to 320,240. |
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<valium1> |
it should be noted, that he has the modified source available for download at the bottom |
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<valium1> |
but then again, I'm the guy that ALWAYS manually applies patches |
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<g8787> |
I think I have a handle on that. It's actually the cross-compiling that I'm not so sure about. I THINK I may have a proper toolchain built now but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. I get make, make install but... |
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<g8787> |
yeah, I'm with you on manually applying simple changes like that. might see something else to tweak ;) |
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<valium1> |
I have a 50k liner to do |
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<valium1> |
not looking forward to that |
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<g8787> |
yuck. that's not the ticket |
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<valium1> |
well, shouldn't be too bad |
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<valium1> |
most of the original files are /dev/null |
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<valium1> |
but this is windows and it just looks at me funny when I start sying things like that |
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<valium1> |
seriously? thats registered? man, I thiught I was SOOOO clever |
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<adnyxo> |
lol UgliGummiworm |
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<rkdavis> |
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO |
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<rkdavis> |
my wife just rang me |
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<rkdavis> |
she is the union delegate for the court clerks in her court house |
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<adnyxo> |
wow |
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<rkdavis> |
she just had to break up a fist fight between two of her union members, they were rolling aorund on the floor punching and kicking each other |
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<rkdavis> |
and she has to represent them both in the tribunial |
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<rkdavis> |
but it was two 5'2" women basically kicking and punching the shit out of each other and the court officers just stood there watching |
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<adnyxo> |
lolololololol |
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<rkdavis> |
g8787: http://russelldavis.org/2010/04/debian-version-of-setup-wifi-sh-aka-easy-wifi-configurator/ -- made a couple more changes to your changes. give it a try sometime -- i haven't tested it as such but it shoudl work |
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<g8787> |
cool. I'll grab it right now |
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<rkdavis> |
only a couple of cosmetic changes mostly but your wifidevice variable shoudl work now |
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<rkdavis> |
let me know if it does work and i'll see about adding some stuff to it like more ciphers and any other bells and whistles i can think of. maybe move the real/fake mac stuff that i am adding to iz2s into it |
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<g8787> |
THAT would be really cool |
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<g8787> |
seems to work just as well as the other one but has the snazzy new backtitle ;-) |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm a little concerned about dhclient, i really should take a look at it's manpage and try to setup a sd card and zipti for debian to see what it's output is and what retvals if any |
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<g8787> |
what exactly are you after? perhaps I can help? |
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<rkdavis> |
basically just need to see what it's output is when it gets a lease and what it's output is when it doesn't |
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<rkdavis> |
so i can see what I can grep on or test for that last bit of the script |
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<geordy> |
ah |
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<rkdavis> |
and I think i'll steal your name for it too to keep it seperate from the iz2s version -- thus it is now christened Easy Wifi Configuator aka EWoC :) |
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<geordy> |
works for me. It's a throwback to redhat although I don't remember which program it's throwing back too. Something that used dialog though :) |
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<rkdavis> |
yup nearly everything that has text config uses dialog |
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<rkdavis> |
or a variation of dialog |
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<geordy> |
btw, I also get an error at the end of "the NTP socket is in use, exiting" |
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<rkdavis> |
ok i'll have to look into that |
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<rkdavis> |
its onlt the date/time update stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
but better to have it thannnot |
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<rkdavis> |
it might be that in sidetrack ntp is already rinning oris setup differently |
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<rkdavis> |
yup a quick google and looks like ntp is in use already to get that error |
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<rkdavis> |
do a ps | grep ntp and it probably has it running |
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<rkdavis> |
so for side track we can probably remove those lines |
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<geordy> |
odd, I didn't know ntp just ran in the background all the time. I would have assumed it would be a cron job or run on startup or something. Seems like that would be more practical for a limited memory device like this at least |
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<geordy> |
I just tried manually running "rdate time-a.nist.gov" and that worked beautifully. I had to apt-get the rdate package though |
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<rkdavis> |
i have a couple of mods to make in a few |
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<rkdavis> |
some sed magic to show which ssid you currently have set |
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<rkdavis> |
add this line to the top of the script, say just before the first dialog line |
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<rkdavis> |
currentssid=`grep ssid /mnt/sd0/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf | /mnt/sd0/bin/sed -e 's/.*ssid="/\1/' -e 's/"/\1/'` |
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<rkdavis> |
and then change the Use current wifi settings line to |
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<rkdavis> |
dialog --backtitle "$backtitle" --title "Use current Wifi settings?" --yesno "SSID: $currentssid" 6 0 |
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<rkdavis> |
and it'll print the current set ssid in the message box |
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<geordy> |
oops... forgot to nix the slash mnt slash sd0 ;-) |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<geordy> |
hmmm, still dissing me |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm ok looks like i'll need to change thje order of the dhclienmt test to test for success rather than failuere |
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<rkdavis> |
ok look to see where your wpa_supplicant.conf is |
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<rkdavis> |
and change the path to that |
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<rkdavis> |
it shoudl be in /mnt/sd0/etc but it might not be |
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<geordy> |
it's in etc |
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<geordy> |
for me |
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<rkdavis> |
did you change where the script writes it's wpa_supplicant.conf? |
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<geordy> |
root@zipper:~# grep ssid /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf | sed -e 's/.*ssid="/\1/' -e 's/"/\1/' |
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<geordy> |
sed: -e expression #1, char 14: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm |
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<rkdavis> |
i cut from my ssh'ed in session but let me check |
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<rkdavis> |
did you type it or cut & paste it? |
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<geordy> |
c/p |
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<rkdavis> |
weird |
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<geordy> |
yeah |
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<geordy> |
is there a backtick missing or something when I ran it manually? |
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<geordy> |
I just stripped the part where it gets stuck in a var |
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<rkdavis> |
then you might have an extra ` |
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<rkdavis> |
but you shoudl leave the setting varibale thing in for testing |
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<geordy> |
I did but it doesn't work in the program either |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<geordy> |
one more thing to mention though |
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<geordy> |
when I cat the wpa_supplicant.conf, there are 3 instances of my network= shown |
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<rkdavis> |
oh bugger that wil cause a problem |
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<rkdavis> |
i forgot about instences like that |
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<geordy> |
let me manually remove them and try it real quick |
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<rkdavis> |
some ppl put several networkbloacks in there |
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<geordy> |
all three of mine are identicle |
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<geordy> |
probably because I tell it not to use the old wpa_supplicant.conf |
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<rkdavis> |
that will work as it'll take the top one as the default |
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<geordy> |
oic |
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<rkdavis> |
and only if it doesn't see it will it drop down to the next one |
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<rkdavis> |
brb got to start peeling spuds for supper |
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<rkdavis> |
be about 10 mins |
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<rkdavis> |
ok back |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls |
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<geordy> |
lol |
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<marex> |
Z2 battery driver went through battery-2.6 ... http://git.infradead.org/battery-2.6.git/commit/e3e8d1c93f9e6b766424b05f23f2416f22a0329d |
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<marex> |
applied as of today, cheers |
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<marex> |
GPSFan, rkdavis, ^ |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: cool |
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<geordy> |
I'm assuming that's a kernel patch? |
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<rkdavis> |
as i have a working sd card again for my u-bootdd zipit |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, the new uboot works |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: ok now i have a booting card for my uboot zipit maybe i'll upgrade it |
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<adnyxo> |
hey mozzwald |
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<mozzwald> |
howdy |
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<mozzwald> |
how's the zipit world? |
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<geordy> |
fun times as usual |
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<mozzwald> |
always |
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<adnyxo> |
definitely |
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<aaron_> |
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/store/ |
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<aaron_> |
mozz, check that out |
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<aaron_> |
man |
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<aaron_> |
i took my own nick |
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<aaron_> |
ghost nick or whatever |
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<adnyxo> |
okay great |
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<mozzwald> |
aye, seen some buzz about that new device lately. |
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<mozzwald> |
wasn't it supposed to be completely open, but the hardware company pulled out of the full disclosure? can't remember the previous name of it |
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<DoorToDoorGeek> |
Ben NanoNote thing? |
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<adnyxo> |
im not sure |
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<adnyxo> |
as it is, its really open |
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<mozzwald> |
not the nanonote |
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<adnyxo> |
the touchbook |
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<mozzwald> |
crunchpad? |
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<mozzwald> |
or is this something different |
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<adnyxo> |
no, this is something different |
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<DoorToDoorGeek> |
joo-joo |
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<adnyxo> |
nope, not the joojoo |
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<adnyxo> |
i posted the link |
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<DoorToDoorGeek> |
Entourage eDGe? |
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<DoorToDoorGeek> |
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/store/ |
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<adnyxo> |
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ |
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<Mcavity> |
Hi guys any life in here? |
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<adnyxo> |
yay! a person |
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<adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
heh |
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<Mcavity> |
how do you know I'm a person? |
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<mozzwald> |
yeah, i found the schematics too :) |
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<Mcavity> |
anything new going on? |
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<Mcavity> |
I have been away a while.. stupid real life lol |
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<adnyxo> |
same here |
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<adnyxo> |
well i killed my zipit |
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<Mcavity> |
been building a mega storage / media server. its just about done at this point. |
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<Mcavity> |
doh |
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<adnyxo> |
Mcavity, cool, ive been meaning to do that myself |
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<Mcavity> |
im prety happy with it right now. 6 drives in it and it uses 60 watts when idle but still has enough cpu to transcode 1080p on the fly =) |
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<adnyxo> |
nice |
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<Mcavity> |
its in a norco 4020 case so eventualy ill be able to put 20 drives in there mwahahah |
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<Mcavity> |
big box =) |
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<Mcavity> |
just havent figured a good place in the house to put it yet lol |
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<adnyxo> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity: in the wife's part of the house |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
dont have one |
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<adnyxo> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
ok in the most inconvieniant spot for guests i.e, the bathroom |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
what I realy need to do at some point is get some cable drops in the walls. gradge would probably be best plce fot it.. |
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<Mcavity> |
but it gets hot out there.. so i dunno |
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<Mcavity> |
but im pretty happy with it right now.. got a bit over 5Tb of storage going and plan to add more as I can |
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<Mcavity> |
just doing the painfull thing ight now of trying to sort my files.. ahhhhh to many shows! |
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<Reddog^> |
no such thing |
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<Mcavity> |
heh |
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<Mcavity> |
just lots of cleaning up to do |
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<Mcavity> |
sorting into folders filling in holes.. ect.. |
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<Mcavity> |
only about 2 Tb of that to do lol |
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<geordy> |
adnyxo: how did you kill your zipit? |
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<Mcavity> |
with fire? |
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<rkdavis> |
shotgun at 10 paces? |
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<geordy> |
I think he's just going to leave us guessing |
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<Mcavity> |
mabe it awoke for the dead and is now eating his brains.. zombie zipit.. |
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<adnyxo> |
ah sry |
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<adnyxo> |
i tore the ribbon cable to the display |
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<adnyxo> |
whilst taking it apart |
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<geordy> |
ewww |
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<geordy> |
I guess it's console only for you |
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<geordy> |
btw, is there any room up in the area of the screen? |
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<geordy> |
like extra space? I haven't pulled mine apart yet |
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<adnyxo> |
not really |
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<adnyxo> |
what dya want to put there? |
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<geordy> |
I have a couple weird ideas. One of them was for a touchscreen plugged into a driver chip plugged into the onboard serial interface |
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<geordy> |
this thing is ripe for a touchscreen mod |
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<geordy> |
just wondering if there was room for the driver chip somewhere |
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<geordy> |
it's about 1mm thick and would need to be on a pcb of slightly less thickness |
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<rkdavis> |
adnyxo: did you see the ti touch screen hack on hackaday a couple of days ago |
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<adnyxo> |
no, sounds interesting |
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<LokiChaosE> |
there is a lot of space behind the screen, I considered a BT adapeter after USB host is working |
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<LokiChaosE> |
I don't think there is space for a TS controller, based on those I've seen, but there might be a tiny one out there |
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<LokiChaosE> |
I would say you have about 1.5-2mm of space back there, and if it's <6mm wide it could go beside the screen |
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<azend> |
anyone have an idea on how to get kismet working? |
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<LokiChaosE> |
last I checked it isn't possible due to lack of support of the driver/chipset, but I've been out of the zipit scene for a few months so I could be wrong |
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<azend> |
aww |
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<azend> |
even without monitor mode? |
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<azend> |
even just in the standard mode? |
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<Mcavity> |
still no permiscus mode |
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<Mcavity> |
there is this though i havent looked at it.. |
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<Mcavity> |
http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/zipit-z2-hacking-userland-side-track |
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<geordy> |
loki: I was going to build my own ts controller out of a driver chip. it's a 28 pin smt chip so it should be compact enough if done on a thin pcb |
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<geordy> |
mcavity, I'm using side-track. can't say I've been too successful with sniffing yet. still experimenting with other general stuff |
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<LokiChaosE> |
*nod* well there is enough space to sneak some stuff behind the screen, might have to remove some foam and some plastic ribs to make space |
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<LokiChaosE> |
oh neat, my keyboard image is on the IZ2S blog :) |
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<Mcavity> |
hehe |
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<LokiChaosE> |
I'd know that terrible color choice anywhere :x |
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<Mcavity> |
which blog is IZ2s? |
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<LokiChaosE> |
well this is he IZ2Se one, so russelldavis' |
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<Mcavity> |
ahh doh lol |
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<Mcavity> |
no one ever managed to do anything with the peek it looks like |
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<Mcavity> |
shame |
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<azend> |
I already have sidetrack |
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<LokiChaosE> |
I loaded it on one of my micro SD's but I've been to busy setting up my new Eee PC to play with it yet |
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<Mcavity> |
i still need to migrate my workstation hard drive.. bla. |
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<Mcavity> |
but ill get to test the whs restore =) |
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<LokiChaosE> |
my next thing is learning how to mod GTK themes so I can make a smaller TerminalGreen theme |
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<Mcavity> |
time for work |
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<azend> |
does anyone have an emu for zipit on qemu |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
they have that? thatd be awesome |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
if you find one and i'm not around, please send me a message :D |
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<rkdavis> |
LokiChaosE: i'd actually get our keymaps consolidated as much as possible although console can't do as many keys as your X one can but if we can get as many of the characters the same it might be a good idea -- although links is a problem as i have to use a seperate map for it as it doesn't like sticky keys or locks unfortunatly |
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<LokiChaosE> |
ah, I have a partial keymap for the console, but I'm not sure where it is |
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<rkdavis> |
well mine is just console, i need to redo part of it as i was using it mainly for links so i had to swap alt to be altgr to solve a problem in z2shell and links |
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<rkdavis> |
and now i have seperate ones again so the nortmal one can move back to alt on the alt key |
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<rkdavis> |
and i stole your idea anyway of using a spreadsheet to actually draw the image :) |
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<LokiChaosE> |
my final xkeymap is http://imagebin.org/92008 I forget what, if anything I changed |
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<LokiChaosE> |
I made that in GIMP so it would fit on the Z2 screen... I hand copied/pasted each char from a 4x7 bitmap font to do the lettering |
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<rkdavis> |
ok as much as possible i'll try to match it, of course in z2shell i can't do soem keys but i should be able to get most of the ascii keys |
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<LokiChaosE> |
it's also based on the latest z2mouse (the one that uses option to toggle it) |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
has anyone figured out how to make the zipit type a "%"? |
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<rkdavis> |
GRUBaDubDub: it all depends on the keymap your rootfs uses |
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<rkdavis> |
GRUBaDubDub: in z2shell (iz2s/iz2se) and with LokiChaosE's map it on alt+shift+m but if ppl have changed the keymap then it could be anywhere. but if you look in the keymap files you should be able to find which key it's on just search for the word percent |
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<LokiChaosE> |
technically it's just LokiChaos (the E is because this is my Eee PC client) ;) |
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<rkdavis> |
LokiChaosE: i know but i am too lazy to delete back to remove it when i tab it |
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<LokiChaosE> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
rkdavis, thanks a TON! |
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<rkdavis> |
GRUBaDubDub: which rootfs are you using? |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
rkdavis, I think rootnexus' RC1-Pre2. i havent touched it in a while bc my network is WPA2 and requires the % character, so i can't do much on it while i'm at my house |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
might be the release version right before pre2 |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
pre0 or whatever it was |
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<rkdavis> |
ok look for either keymap.map or xmodmap.map probably in /etc (although LokiChaos will actually know where as rootnexus is based on aliosa27's debian so they should be in the same place) -- check /opt too |
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<rkdavis> |
if you can't find the word percent you can add it on to a key quite easily if you take a look at how the other keys are set |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
thanks a lot. i didnt think of doing that until today for some reason. that's exactly what I needed. thanks so much |
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<rkdavis> |
glad to help |
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<rkdavis> |
LokiChaos that image still matches the your keymap that aliosa still has on his site? |
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<LokiChaosE> |
should be |
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<rkdavis> |
GRUBaDubDub: the easiest thing to do would probably be to make sure you have the latest z2mouse program and grab LokiChaos's keymap-latest from aliosa27.net and put that where it's supposed to go |
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<rkdavis> |
http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/mark2/z2mouseemu http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/mark2/keymap-final |
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<GRUBaDubDub> |
will do, thanks again |
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<rkdavis> |
you're welcome |
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