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<fracaspunk1> |
ne1 figure out how to make backslash on irongeeks userland? |
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<rkdavis1> |
fracaspunk1: i posted on humters site about it |
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<fracaspunk1> |
thx alot1 |
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<rkdavis1> |
basically it looks like the keymap is a standard one not a zipit one |
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<rkdavis1> |
so you'll need to make your own |
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<fracaspunk1> |
ok sounds good |
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<rkdavis1> |
i think if you goto aliosa27's site you will find lokichaos's one for X |
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<Foxx> |
I wanted to give everyone a heads up |
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<Foxx> |
the Leapfrong Didj, which is a native linux handheld is on www.woot.com for $20 shipped |
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<Foxx> |
I have one myself, its an interesting platform |
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<Foxx> |
someone got it running u-boot already, turns out you can halt the POST Process and upload your own 'live bootloader' code |
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<Foxx> |
you dont need to run a risky rewrite of the firmware to get uboot going |
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<ogmious09> |
but there hasn't seemed to be any further development on it Foxx |
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<ogmious09> |
Atleast last time I looked on Hack Foundry |
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<ogmious09> |
Am I wrong? |
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<Foxx> |
I dont follow Hack Foundry, so I dont know |
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<Foxx> |
there hasnt been much progress because of the skill level needed to hack it in general |
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<Foxx> |
like the Z2 was |
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<Foxx> |
seems most stuff off the debian armel line will compile |
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<Foxx> |
I think someone got a crude port of mplayer going, which is also packed in the SVN provided by leapfrong |
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<ogmious09> |
http://www.hackerfoundry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7&sid=56111654f9ca693005f55ae08a849441&start=310 |
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<Foxx> |
someone is working on USB Host support as well |
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<ogmious09> |
you have seen this though right? |
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<Foxx> |
I honestly try to stay away from anything that actively uses "hack" in the URL |
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<Foxx> |
most of it is either crap, l33t bullshit, or pansy scene whore articles |
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<ogmious09> |
well were have you been readin up on this? |
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<ogmious09> |
Malcolm Foxx |
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<Foxx> |
tell me im wrong... |
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<Foxx> |
one of the people that developed the kernel for the Didj is also working on hacking it |
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<ogmious09> |
No, there's def some ego's on there but then again there's few in here too |
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<Foxx> |
its everywhere |
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<ogmious09> |
that was the charles guy right? |
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<Foxx> |
I cant recall |
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<ogmious09> |
guy that designed the first cart |
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* |
Foxx shrugs |
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<ogmious09> |
well seems like you got a different site for people working on it |
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<Foxx> |
there are different sources |
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<Foxx> |
a small group opened up a didj hacking forum thats mostly "OMFG I can haz!!" banter |
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<Foxx> |
and no real work |
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<ogmious09> |
claude schwartz |
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<ogmious09> |
that's the guy |
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<Foxx> |
thayah I just linked to his site |
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<ogmious09> |
well check the hackerfoundry on it, they got some great schematics for the carts |
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<Foxx> |
once it hit HackADay, too many places cropped up with "OMFG LEET HAXX" stuff making it harder to find legit resources and articles |
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<Foxx> |
the cart seems pretty straight forward |
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<Foxx> |
im pretty sure I can get a stock cart into write mode |
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<Foxx> |
$10 says you just need to bring up the CS line |
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<Foxx> |
or WE |
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<Aelius> |
anyone else having issues with the batt script? |
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<ogmious09> |
They got some more advanced ones, with SD Slots etc |
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<Foxx> |
I know |
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<ogmious09> |
The original was ok from he looks but they really ironed out well atleast according to the site |
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<Aelius> |
pretty sure it just shut me down @ 100 battery while plugged in |
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<Foxx> |
its not terribly hard if you can deal with SMD parts, which most people cant |
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<ogmious09> |
I haven't purchased one yet, wanted to see how far the development got |
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<Foxx> |
well for $20 shipped, you cant really bitch |
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<Foxx> |
better then the $50+ elsewhere |
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<ogmious09> |
it looked like it was steaming along then died off for about a year or so picked up some steam after woot but nothing huge yet |
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<Foxx> |
well I blame the fact you need to know how to handle a soldering iron for that |
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<Foxx> |
not many people can do dick with an iron these days |
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<ogmious09> |
that's the easy part |
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<ogmious09> |
I thought it was the other way around |
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<ogmious09> |
lots of old hardware hackers not enough software guys |
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<Foxx> |
the Z2 is really more of a software developer device |
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<Foxx> |
im a hardware hacker, thats my strongpoint, I got the Z2 and Didj to work on my lack luster software ability |
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<ogmious09> |
software ability must be higher than mine |
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<ogmious09> |
the hardware stuff is cake |
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<ogmious09> |
I wish that was all that was holding it u |
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<Foxx> |
i doubt it... im pretty flawed with code |
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<Foxx> |
you ever see my picasa page and tech show? |
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<ogmious09> |
oh yeah |
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<ogmious09> |
we have talked many times on it |
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<ogmious09> |
talked about some laptop stuff once or twice |
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<Foxx> |
what can I say, im a whore |
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<ogmious09> |
brb gotta tinkle |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
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<ogmious09> |
I miss the days when web appliances were coming out |
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<ogmious09> |
those were simple hardware hacks to get some pretty cool devices |
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<Foxx> |
ive got a bunch |
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<Foxx> |
lacking in performance, but piss easy to get working |
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<ogmious09> |
still got my websurfer. It's running the display for the front of the shop |
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<Foxx> |
I have some gateway Connected TOuchpads |
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<Foxx> |
id like to rebuild emdebian for them |
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<ogmious09> |
that's the kinda stuff we need to come out |
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<Foxx> |
I just recently learned about penmount from my WebDT366 project, I should be able to get the touchscreens working now |
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<Foxx> |
google WebDT 366 |
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<ogmious09> |
Back when the Iappliance bbs was popping |
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<ogmious09> |
Yeah i saw those last year |
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<Foxx> |
i expect the prices to go up |
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<ogmious09> |
remind me of the ricoh pen tablets with bootable cf drives |
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<ogmious09> |
wait |
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<ogmious09> |
pcmcia cards |
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<Foxx> |
main reason its not hacked out the ass is because people want to put out a linux build and sell them for 4x what they paid for their bulk and make a profit |
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<Foxx> |
goes against (true) hacker ethics |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah seen a lo of them on ebay |
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<Foxx> |
selling someone elses work for profit |
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<Foxx> |
most of the linux guys hacking them are either not making their work public, or doing it for a profit |
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<Foxx> |
the profiteering assholes dont have much talent |
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<ogmious09> |
see what I mean |
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<Foxx> |
and the ones with real talent see whats going on and wont help someone get rich off their own work |
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<ogmious09> |
if they'd come out 6-7 years ago they be on ipplaince bbs and hacked to do anything |
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<Foxx> |
they can now! |
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<Foxx> |
just takes some brains |
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<ogmious09> |
I mean to the level of like the I-Openers were |
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<Foxx> |
hell, ive got an 8GB Microdrive on my IDE bus right now with a lil' bit of modding |
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<Foxx> |
like I mention, most of the people hacking them want to get rich quick |
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<ogmious09> |
within months of them being out they had a great custom linux ditro for them . Jailbait I think it was |
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<Foxx> |
someone was selling them with a USB 1.1 drive and Niblex for $250 |
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<ogmious09> |
all running off the 16 mb DOC |
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<Foxx> |
the performance was shit |
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<Foxx> |
and I MEAN SHIT |
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<Foxx> |
boasted DVD, xvid, and MP3 playback |
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<ogmious09> |
off 1.1 huh |
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<Foxx> |
yep |
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<Foxx> |
the 1GB flashrom chips for them cost something like $150 |
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<Foxx> |
just because 'they can sell them for $150' |
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<ogmious09> |
I see a page talking about linuxMCE and them. They using them as orbits? |
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<Foxx> |
the connector used on them is EoL by molex, they have a tight grip on the stock |
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<Foxx> |
yep |
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<Foxx> |
I said the fuck with the custom connector and tossed a 2mm header on |
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<Foxx> |
and an IDE cable to a IDE to CF adapter |
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<Foxx> |
but that takes some work with an iron, not much at that |
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<ogmious09> |
so you soldered off the connector and put a laptop ide header on? |
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<ogmious09> |
Last time I looke da thtem that was the problem, trying to figure out the header |
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<Foxx> |
yeah |
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<Foxx> |
then routed the cable out of the DT366 |
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<ogmious09> |
is it backwards or something |
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<ogmious09> |
? |
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<ogmious09> |
there was some problem, it's been awhile, I am not sure |
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<Foxx> |
no, its just half-height |
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<ogmious09> |
that was it |
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<ogmious09> |
tight fit |
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<Foxx> |
the female connector needs to be a tighter fit so it clamps on |
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<Foxx> |
which molex no longer makes |
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<ogmious09> |
couldn't close em up |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/WebDT#5334776446540762258 |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/WebDT#5334742830298253346 |
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<Foxx> |
(its MUCH shorter now) |
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<ogmious09> |
no room for a ide to cf adapter and card internaly? |
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<ogmious09> |
wasn't there a problem with getting the CF card to operate at a fast speed? |
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<Foxx> |
CF card is on the USB 1.1 bus as a card reader |
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<Foxx> |
not-bootable |
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<Foxx> |
and no room at all to keep the adapter internal |
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<Foxx> |
if you pull out the onboard CF adapter maybe, I have one unit ive done that with |
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<Foxx> |
I can sooner get a 1.8" IDE drive hooked up |
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<ogmious09> |
well with usb don't really need the pcmcia wifi card |
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<Foxx> |
yes you do |
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<Foxx> |
network |
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<ogmious09> |
no usb ports? |
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<Foxx> |
only 1 |
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<Foxx> |
on the side |
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<ogmious09> |
I'm gonna have to revisit the webdt, like I said when I was looking at them the ide header was jus getting looked at |
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<ogmious09> |
this was about 13 months ago give or take |
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<ogmious09> |
lol, found your blog site about it |
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<Foxx> |
I dont blog often |
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<Foxx> |
for the most part the WebDT is a typical 'install a header, toss a HDD/CF card on, install OS' deal |
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<ogmious09> |
how are you disabling boot into wince? |
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<Foxx> |
or pull your hair out dealing with the 512MB limit |
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<Foxx> |
its not exclusvely looking for WinCE |
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<Foxx> |
it boots like a typical BIOS, cause it is |
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<ogmious09> |
gotcha |
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<Foxx> |
its a nice little device, I wouldlt pay $100 for one... |
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<Foxx> |
but the $50 ones tend to be all fucked up |
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<Foxx> |
someone took a knife to my touchscreen |
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<ogmious09> |
looking on ebay |
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<Foxx> |
which is the ONLY thing you can fuck up |
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<Foxx> |
dont bother with the wifi card |
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<Foxx> |
its only expensive cause it works with WinCE |
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<Foxx> |
I got some .11 A/B/G atheros PCMCIA wifi cards for $15 each |
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<ogmious09> |
well I got a few orinico gold and silve cards left |
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<Foxx> |
now you have a use for em' |
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<ogmious09> |
some guy here in cali has 97 of them |
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<Foxx> |
thats one of the fuckwits trying to make a profit |
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<Foxx> |
laptops4me, SunnyVOIP, two of the known nicks |
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<Foxx> |
same guy |
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<Foxx> |
and a total fucking dickhole |
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<ogmious09> |
http://cgi.ebay.com/WebDT-366-Digital-Tablet_W0QQitemZ260540557899QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops_Nov05?hash=item3ca96d6a4b |
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<Foxx> |
sold them off with misleading information, I called him on his shit, and he just popped up using a new handle |
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<ogmious09> |
doesn't say if it comes with ac |
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<ogmious09> |
what's the voltage and amperage requirement? |
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<Foxx> |
12V @2.5A |
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<Foxx> |
at one point he was trying to sell them as linux tablets like I mentioned |
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<Foxx> |
then tried to claim they can play back DVDs and Movies, thats when I started to call him on his bullshit |
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<ogmious09> |
an ac from an older linksys router would cover that, just solder a new barrel on |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah don't see that happening |
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<ogmious09> |
I think I saw these AMD cpus in a geode machine AMD was making a few years back looked like a green lunchbox |
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<Foxx> |
also tried to sell them saying they can run XP out of the box, which they cant being only 512MB |
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<ogmious09> |
microxp |
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<Foxx> |
works for shit |
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<ogmious09> |
Couldn't you get him banned if you relayed all that info to eBay |
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<Foxx> |
hence why he changed his handle more times than his underwear |
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<ogmious09> |
huh |
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<ogmious09> |
paint a pretty picture |
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<ogmious09> |
lol |
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<ogmious09> |
there's a video on google video that shows one running nimblex, looks like your wall. That you? |
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<Foxx> |
no, not me |
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<Foxx> |
nimblex rins for shit |
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<Foxx> |
runs* |
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<Foxx> |
its too heavy for the DT366, and on USB 1.1 |
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<Foxx> |
not fun |
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<Foxx> |
only reason they use it is because it supports the touchscreen out of the box |
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<ogmious09> |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4459995737871873106# |
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<ogmious09> |
this shows it running pretty snappy |
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<ogmious09> |
think he has it on a cf card with probably a similar hack to yours |
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<Foxx> |
thats Quoteaholic |
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<Foxx> |
we had a weekend hackathon to get them running proper |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/Peoples#5334417188520435746 |
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<ogmious09> |
got me interested in them again |
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<Foxx> |
look familliar? |
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<ogmious09> |
the hardware stuff looks fairly easy |
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<Foxx> |
it is |
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<Foxx> |
once you get past the 512MB HDD restrition, its pretty straight forward |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah that's the wall in the video |
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<ogmious09> |
I'd personally have not much problem taking the pcmcia port out and trying to get this mounted inside |
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<ogmious09> |
put one of those mini 4 port usb hubs inside |
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<ogmious09> |
got me thinking |
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<Foxx> |
USB networking is kinda' crappy |
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<Foxx> |
I try to stay away fromt he USB 1.1 except for GPS and input |
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<Foxx> |
mouse/keyboard |
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<Foxx> |
installing XP took me something like 6 hours |
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<ogmious09> |
well could remove the connector, wire that ot the outside so the card lies against the machine, leaving the room internally |
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<ogmious09> |
course extending all those lines would be a bear or a solder job in time |
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<ogmious09> |
*bear of |
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<Foxx> |
if you use a 1.8" HDD (maybe a CF) and proper adapters, and remove the CF card slot |
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<Foxx> |
thats what they did in the HDD versions of the WebDT 360 |
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<Foxx> |
you need to have very tight soldering though |
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<Foxx> |
id say fuck off to the IDE connectors and just use ribbon cable to save on some milimeters |
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<ogmious09> |
Never gonna say I am a master but I have done stuff like that before |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah I was thinking the same thing |
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<Foxx> |
yah im sure you can handle it, but I have to admit, of all the people ive met/helped on the WebDT... not one of them can solder for fuck |
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<Foxx> |
at all |
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<ogmious09> |
like the ribbons Fujitsu laptops use for the hard drive |
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<Foxx> |
most of these people cant even manage to get windows installed |
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<Foxx> |
I mean at all! |
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<Foxx> |
PERIOD |
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<ogmious09> |
that's why they got you |
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<ogmious09> |
I'm gonna have to get one of these and give it a run |
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<Foxx> |
im going to be doing some recording soon, the WebDT is on my list |
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<ogmious09> |
to easy going with an old laptop, want something more like this or the zipit for wifi sniffing in the field |
| [02:06:02] |
<Foxx> |
pop into the BSoD IRC sometime, ill give you a heads up when the prerelease is out |
| [02:06:10] |
<Foxx> |
thats what I use mine for |
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<Foxx> |
the WiSpy doesnt manage too well though |
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<Foxx> |
linux or windows |
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<Foxx> |
just doesnt have the CPU power to manage the graphs |
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<ogmious09> |
gotcha |
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<Foxx> |
even netstumbler will hiccup after 300 APs or so |
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<ogmious09> |
I just need to do a survey with strength |
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<Foxx> |
yep, same here |
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<Foxx> |
need to know whos on what channels so nothing is conflicting |
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<ogmious09> |
We are branching into hotels and big buildings setting up wireless cameras and internet |
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<Foxx> |
I remember you mentioning |
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<Foxx> |
the WebDT would be good for this |
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<ogmious09> |
so putting up a buffalo router with dd-wrt and walking around to gauge strength, the webdt looks smart on |
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<ogmious09> |
holding a laptop is to akward |
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<ogmious09> |
and the pen tablet we have is expensive, makes me nervous letting the guys use it |
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<Foxx> |
check your PM |
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<Foxx> |
the DT comes with 'ears' as we call it |
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<Foxx> |
you can use it to strap the thing to your hand |
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<rkdavis1> |
morning all |
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<aliosa27> |
todays the day to get a didj for 20 bucks shiped from woot if anyone wants one |
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<LT[LC]> |
is there a good reason to get one? |
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<aliosa27> |
390 mhz, opengl and hackable |
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<aliosa27> |
+touchscreen |
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<LT[LC]> |
oh? |
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<rkdavis1> |
damn woot doesn't like wife's bank card :( |
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<rkdavis1> |
going to havee to wait until i get paid :( |
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<muriani> |
Huh, I've actually got an I-Opener |
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<muriani> |
haven't done anything with it yet, was looking at an LTSP-type application |
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<muriani> |
Moving in with the GF though, dunno what I'll do with it now. |
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<rkdavis1> |
give it to me |
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<rkdavis1> |
:) |
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<muriani> |
heh |
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<muriani> |
actually, I think I'll hook it up in the studio as a thinclient |
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<muriani> |
maybe |
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<Corrosion> |
Im working on installing openzipit on my zipit and im in real need of help--anyone? |
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<Corrosion> |
I'm trying to install the image but windows says the disk is not formatted even after installing the ext2 driver |
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<Corrosion> |
anyone? I really need help I've been at it for 2 hours and bought this just to put linux on it |
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<Corrosion> |
... |
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<MarkU> |
I don't have a zipit so might not be much help, but what disk are you talking about? SD card? |
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<rkdavis1> |
Corrosion: yup windows hates ext2 and ecven with the various drivers it is iffy |
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<rkdavis1> |
what rootfs image are you using? |
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<rkdavis1> |
and the drivers don;t allow you to format the sd card anyway |
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<Corrosion> |
the one from your video |
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<Corrosion> |
Aliosa27s latest oe userland image |
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<Corrosion> |
The sd card just keeps saying its not formatted |
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<rkdavis1> |
it will do |
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<Corrosion> |
but how to I move the .bin files if windows wont let me open it |
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<rkdavis1> |
you can't |
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<Corrosion> |
so.... wouldn't fail to work? |
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<rkdavis1> |
the problem is that the fat partition is in the wrong place |
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<rkdavis1> |
windows only likes a fat partition as the first partition |
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<Corrosion> |
ok, how do i fix that? |
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<rkdavis1> |
but in aliosa's stuff its the 3rd |
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<rkdavis1> |
you have reflashed the kernel? |
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<Corrosion> |
Yes and I have the openzipit logo up now |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok pity |
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<Corrosion> |
pity? |
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<rkdavis1> |
yup if you hadn't we could mod the autoflasher script to copy the wifi crivers to another partition on the zipit |
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<Corrosion> |
.. ok then what are my options. I tried to do it in linux. It did read the files but I recieved an access error when trying to copy over the files |
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<rkdavis1> |
basically you need to find a linux box somewhere BUT a livecd or bootable usb drive will do |
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<Corrosion> |
I did ubuntu live cd... but I had a permissions error trying to write the files from my flash drive the the card |
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<Corrosion> |
let me reboot my vmachine |
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<rkdavis1> |
did you sudo |
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<Corrosion> |
su root - pass yes |
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<Corrosion> |
I have it rebooting now I'll let you know once I try to copy the files again |
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<Corrosion> |
oh, I did notice the if i right click on the card it would not allow me to use the paste option |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok |
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<Corrosion> |
my vmachine is almost ready for me to give it another go |
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<rkdavis1> |
how did you extract the files from the tarball? |
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<Corrosion> |
7zip |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok give me the link to the file you d/l'ed |
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<Corrosion> |
http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/zipit2-audio+x+mouse.gz |
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<Corrosion> |
oops |
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<Corrosion> |
http://openzipit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openzipit/debianZ2-diskimage-2G.rar?revision=36&pathrev=36 |
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<Corrosion> |
all from - http://hunterdavis.com/archives/227 |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok so you unrar'ed the file |
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<Corrosion> |
yes |
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<rkdavis1> |
and then dd'ed it to the sdcard? |
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<Corrosion> |
dd? you mean use phsydiskwrite? |
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<rkdavis1> |
yup |
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<rkdavis1> |
on linux it'd be dd |
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<Corrosion> |
ok... yes via windows. |
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<Corrosion> |
I'm in ubuntu now... It's not letting me copy the files onto the card |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok and that's where it gave you write errors? |
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<Corrosion> |
yes |
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<rkdavis1> |
what files? |
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<rkdavis1> |
the gspi* ones? |
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<Corrosion> |
yes |
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<Corrosion> |
error opening file /path/ permission denied |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok then it means either your sd card is fubar or your vm doesn't like your sd card reader/writer |
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<rkdavis1> |
are yuou copying using sudo? |
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<Corrosion> |
no |
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<rkdavis1> |
you must be root do write to it |
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<Corrosion> |
su root pass is what i did |
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<Corrosion> |
then tried to copy via gui |
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<rkdavis1> |
no gotta be root |
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<rkdavis1> |
ubuntu and the gui don't work |
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<rkdavis1> |
the gui doesn't run as root |
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<Corrosion> |
ic |
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<rkdavis1> |
you have to do it from the command line and as root |
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<Corrosion> |
ok |
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<Corrosion> |
have an example? |
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<rkdavis1> |
sudo cp gspi8686.bin /media/sdcard |
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<rkdavis1> |
it'll ask you for our password |
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<Corrosion> |
thanks let me try |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok -- gotta go for a few mins be right back though |
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<Corrosion> |
ok |
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<Corrosion> |
still getting nowhere |
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<adnyxo> |
Corrosion: to copy files with a gui type sudo nautilus |
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<adnyxo> |
into the terminal |
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<Corrosion> |
thanks |
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<Corrosion> |
I have the files into libertas :D I should be able to just put it in now huh? |
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<azend> |
does gksudo work in the rootnexus builds? |
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<adnyxo> |
i believe so |
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<azend> |
cool |
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<azend> |
sudo doesn't seem to but it can be set up |
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<adnyxo> |
yea its not set up by default |
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<rkdavis1> |
back |
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<adnyxo> |
welcome back |
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<rkdavis1> |
ah good adnyxo sorted it |
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<azend> |
is there a zipit emulator apart from simply QEMU? |
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<Corrosion> |
hey davis, can i just put the files in libertas? must i use not libertas and move them from the zipit? |
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<rkdavis1> |
you can put them in libertas iirc but it's been a while |
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<Corrosion> |
ok and to reboot just hit the pin on the side to restart it? |
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<Corrosion> |
we'll looks like I have it like linux better :) Thanks for the help just waiting on reboot so I can login (already moved files |
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<Corrosion> |
Hey... hostname: host name lookup failure when trying startx must I be connected to wifi in order to login? |
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<Corrosion> |
nvm it started just slow was all thanks for all the help |
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<Corrosion> |
Hm... no mouse emulation.. ideas? |
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<aliosa27> |
press smiley |
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<Corrosion> |
thanks |
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<Corrosion> |
I'll do that once it restarts |
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<rkdavis1> |
evening aliosa27 |
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<rkdavis1> |
andone know of a decent font that is something like 16x14 or so? |
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<rkdavis1> |
i need double size chars for something i'm doing on the zipit |
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<Corrosion> |
how do i turn it off without hitting reset... shutdown -h didnt work |
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<dTal> |
'shutdown -h now' (or 'poweroff') as root |
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<Corrosion> |
thank you very much :) |
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<Corrosion> |
ive g2g thanks for everything guys |
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<adnyxo> |
finally found a used zipit on ebay |
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<marex> |
yeehaw 8-) |
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<marex> |
I finally have FOSS loader for pxa310 and pxa300 |
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<dTal> |
compiling on the zipit, revisited |
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<ZipitZone> |
Hey guys. I changed the image under /root the .jpg used for the wallpaper on the z2. I modified it and rebooted my zipit and I still get the same old logo. Anyone know whot to properly change that? |
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<ZipitZone> |
(I'm corrosion from earlier btw) |
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<aliosa27> |
marex, thats the openpxa project right |
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<dTal> |
just compiled retawq and netrik from source cuz got sick of elinks being single threaded |
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<aliosa27> |
you need to set it by hand |
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<aliosa27> |
run the command that is in the .initrc file |
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<marex> |
aliosa27, not really ... partly |
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<dTal> |
retawq is very nice, but looks a bit dead |
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<ZipitZone> |
Any ideas on changing the wallpaper? I tried to swap it with the original but the original still loaded when i booted |
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<rkdavis1> |
marex: nice :) |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, yes ... this was hardcore |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, besides ... I had to get a windows machine |
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<marex> |
I think I still miss something and I cant replace XDB yet :-/ |
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<rkdavis1> |
marex: hope you washed the cooties off the windows box first |
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<wicknix2> |
ZipitZone, which userland? |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, dunno ... I installed it, installed VNC, connected 'Marvell Blackstone II' and shoved it under the table |
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<marex> |
it's not connected to the outside world anyway so who cares ... it's single purpose box |
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<ZipitZone> |
@wicknix Aliosa27's latest from Davis's website |
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<SB-Zipit> |
ZipitZone: Error: "wicknix" is not a valid command. |
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<wicknix2> |
ahh. no idea then. |
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<ZipitZone> |
did u get that message wicknix2? I got an error when i sent it |
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<wicknix2> |
in rootnexus userland the wallpaper is set in .xinitrc |
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<wicknix2> |
nope. you have to have a registered nick to msg on freenode |
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<rkdavis1> |
anyone got and decent retrp fonts? |
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<rkdavis1> |
retro even |
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<ZipitZone> |
I'm sorry I don't know what .xinitrc is... Hold on let me look into it before u tell me :) |
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<ZipitZone> |
ok I got it thanks |
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<ZipitZone> |
we'll im out for the night thanks for everything |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok this is a nice font, bit weird on lower case but works quite well -- converted an amiga font i just found |
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<rkdavis1> |
gives me 53x30 |
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<dTal> |
watcha doin rkdavis1? |
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<dTal> |
alarm clock? |
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<rkdavis1> |
playing with console fonts |
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<dTal> |
I mean what's the project, if anything. |
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<rkdavis1> |
trying to get a reasonably readable font but as many columns and rows possible |
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<rkdavis1> |
just improving iz2s (well maybe not improving but enhancing ay least) |
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<dTal> |
53x30 bit big innit? |
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<rkdavis1> |
i have dialog working so converting all the startup to be dialog based |
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<marex> |
dram seems to work now as well |
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<rkdavis1> |
i am increaing the font size for the dialog boxed to be as large (readbale as possible) then looking for a nice font to use in the shell that is readable but gives the best width |
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<marex> |
ddr dram is sick hardware though |
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<rkdavis1> |
marex: i've been sick for the last 4 days so not goto the post office yet (also been raining hard) but i'll try to get there tomorrow or wednesday -- it's a 10 block walk up a steep hill |
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<marex> |
ahoj |
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<marex> |
U-Boot 2009.11-00342-gf056634-dirty (Jan 29 2010 - 13:02:11) |
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<marex> |
CPU: Marvell PXA31x A2 |
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<marex> |
('ahoj' is from my IPL ... so it works ... great) |
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<rkdavis1> |
:) |
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<rkdavis1> |
ahoj chezh(?) for something? maybe hello? |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, CZ ahoj == EN hi |
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<marex> |
or hello ... yea |
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<marex> |
actually ... Linux boots on that device now (with a little help from OpenOCD still, but I'm not too far anyway ... I just need to write support routines now) |
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<rkdavis1> |
good going |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, yeah ... makes me content ... |
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<marex> |
rkdavis1, btw. I'm having a speech on this year's LinuxEXPO in .cz again |
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<rkdavis1> |
marex: cool |
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<rkdavis1> |
ok found a better font, still 53x but very readable |
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<rkdavis1> |
no line drawing chars but nicee |
