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<jrm7262> |
Hi All |
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<mozzwald> |
hey |
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<jrm7262> |
up early for coffee? |
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<mozzwald> |
yeppers |
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<jrm7262> |
ok for a z2 question? |
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<mozzwald> |
sure thing |
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<jrm7262> |
OK. took my z2 apart recently and found 3 leds at the front. What's the center one for? (looking from front, left = power, right = hard disk activity) |
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<mozzwald> |
I'm not positive, but I think the center one is the amber charging led |
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<mozzwald> |
Can you see how many leads are on the power LED? |
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<jrm7262> |
Interesting, mine never comes on, but the battery does charge. |
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<jrm7262> |
each led seems to contain to 2 lights |
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<mozzwald> |
It only comes on if it's told to and I don't think and userlands are setup to have that light on |
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<mozzwald> |
On the stock zipit it glows amber when charging |
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<jrm7262> |
Ah, thanks. Another mystery solved. |
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<mozzwald> |
np |
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<jrm7262> |
Any idea how to access the leds? I have an idea for a flashing clock. |
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<mozzwald> |
yeah, they're under /sys and you can echo 0 or 1 to turn them on. But I don't think the amber is available there |
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<jrm7262> |
misread your earlier post, each led has 3 leads |
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<mozzwald> |
hmm |
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<mozzwald> |
that makes me think they might be 2 color leds |
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<jrm7262> |
I'll play around with echo and /sys, thanks for the tips. Hope your coffee starts your day well. regards J |
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<mozz-zipit> |
check /sys/class/leds |
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<mozz-zipit> |
thanks. have a good evening :] |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<rkdavis> |
morning aliosa27 |
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<aliosa27> |
morning |
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<aliosa27> |
so, quesion, Force a calibration for first boot with the powerdaemon or make it do a best guess |
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<m4t> |
hey, is there a known git tag of the pxa kernel branch that the openzipit svn/oe compiles with? |
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<m4t> |
tried d06070509147c948a06056da619c9dc2ed349805, which is from 2/25, nogo |
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<m4t> |
more the patches applying, than compiling, i guess |
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<rkdavis> |
aliosa27: what about first run it guesses but stores the last say 10 runs somewhere and uses that to calibrate over time? |
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<rkdavis> |
it's only ever going to be a best guess anyway unless gpsfan can workout some some of the nuances of the 915 anyway |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm basically saying its +-7% even when i'm getting the same values for 20 runs as you seem to get spurious values about 1 in 7 times |
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<rkdavis> |
and great minds think alike :) i was about to ask how you were getting on with the battery/power stuff :) |
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<aliosa27> |
m4t, I can look |
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<m4t> |
aliosa27 cool |
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<m4t> |
git current seemed to revamp some i2c code so the code layout might need modification |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: you might want to speak to GPSFan when he pops up he built the kernel about 2 weeks ago from oe, had to make some new patches but he comitted them iirc but marex has been pushing stuff to mainline recently so some patches are no longer needed, probably only the sound stuff iirc |
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<m4t> |
i might try to get the updated recipe/patches from him , thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: and a lecture about using buildroot to build the kernel too :) |
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<rkdavis> |
oe is great for userspace but sucks for kernel; |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: are you using u-boot as a boot loader? |
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<rkdavis> |
if you aren't then don't even bother with any kernel more recent than .29 anyway |
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<m4t> |
nope |
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<m4t> |
they won't load? |
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<m4t> |
ive contemplated adding a serial port... |
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<m4t> |
u-boot would be pretty rad. |
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<jrm7262> |
hi all |
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<m4t> |
there's no way to flash u-boot via /dev/mtd* ? |
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<rkdavis> |
mt4: yes -- basically it's a teeny bit more complicated than dd'ing the kernel but it's easy |
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<rkdavis> |
i've done it about 20 times and downgraded again about 5 times |
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<m4t> |
can uboot drive the fb? |
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<rkdavis> |
basically you need a verifiable working u-boot and then you need to split it into a 64k block and the rest and then dd' them to mtdblock0 and mtdblock1 |
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<m4t> |
so dd if=uboot of=uboot.64 bs=64K count=1 |
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<rkdavis> |
aliosa27: did you ever tidy up your uboot patches for committing? |
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<m4t> |
and then dd if=uboot of=uboot.rest bs=64K seek=1 |
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<m4t> |
or, |
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<m4t> |
i guess skip=1 |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: hold on a sec let me get my notes, i used cut iirc |
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<m4t> |
dd method works... |
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<m4t> |
just verified with 1+5 64K chunks from /dev/urandom and md5sum'd the result |
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<rkdavis> |
yup that was the one in the latest version of the script sweetlilmre was writing, the first one used cut iirc |
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<m4t> |
hm |
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<m4t> |
maybe split and cat? |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, sound's broken |
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<m4t> |
split -b=65536 uboot; cat x[a-z][b-z] > uboot.rest |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: yup i thought that was what you said, probably the i2c changes that m4t was mentioning |
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<m4t> |
mv xaa uboot.64 |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: the only real word of warning is to make sure you have a verifiable working version of u-boot because other wise if it flucks up you'll need your soldering iron and some jtag device |
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<m4t> |
rkdavis , cool, i might try it in qemu, or better yet, get one from here |
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<m4t> |
does the frame buffer get initialized by uboot somehow? does keyboard work in it? |
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* |
m4t has only used u-boot over serial cable |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, no ... the codec driver's broken |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, the rest works fine ... |
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<rkdavis> |
m4t: on the version i use those things don't activate until the kernel loads, i.e. no keyboard until the kernel has booted but the lcd displays although just a couple of lines of test |
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<rkdavis> |
others might have different versions with different patches |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: ah |
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<m4t> |
is the boot device and boot flags etc. compiled into u-boot then? |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, why don't anyone else care about mainlining stuff ? :-E |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: we do but most of us have no skill in kernel hacking and most ppl aren't u-booted so not many ppl even know about it |
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<rkdavis> |
and well i work on stock |
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<rkdavis> |
the person who was really pushing stuff was sweetlilmre and he's still awol and doing stuff for the dingoo these days |
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<aliosa27> |
I care..Im just slow |
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<rkdavis> |
well i care too but no skill |
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<pnet> |
Good morning. I'm looking for the Z2 Userland Image from RootNexus that is listed on the HunterDavis.com website. This image is suppose to boot directly into the GUI, the one I have boots to a root login. Thank you for your help. |
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<aliosa27> |
my whole setup is just a mess... i suppose uboot is ready for the real world |
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<rkdavis> |
aliosa27: i know the feeling, i have 3 gig of about 300 or 400 versions of z2shell that i am hacking on and no form of source control |
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<rkdavis> |
i daren't even breath as it might break |
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<rkdavis> |
aliosa27: what were the patches you did again? keyboard working and setting the environment from the zipit keyboard at boottime wasn't it? |
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<aliosa27> |
yep |
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<aliosa27> |
then I have a 2.6.33 tree i have been working on |
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<aliosa27> |
working towards suspending/sleep |
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<rkdavis> |
have you merged in gpsfan's usb stuff yet? |
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<rkdavis> |
as soon as i can meet up with fox to do the serial mod on 2 of my zipits i'll be doing the usb mod too and then i can start testing properly |
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<aliosa27> |
no, I should try it tho.. |
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<aliosa27> |
i will do the mod after work and try the patches |
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<rkdavis> |
probablt better to cut the trace rather than removee the resister, easier to revert if neccessary |
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<rework> |
Someone figure out a usb host mod? |
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<rkdavis> |
rework: possibly. i found stuff about the treo about adding usb host and gpsfan took it and did some hacking on it and from his testing it seems to work for at least keyboard, mouse and flashdrive |
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<rkdavis> |
but it isn't ready for primetime yet, needs alot of testing and ppl with connectors to the rear port on the zipit |
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<rework> |
Is there a site with any info about it or has it all been done in irc? |
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<rkdavis> |
the patch is committed to the openzipit svn (oe) but the rest is not available yet i.e. the pictures of where to cut and the docs about it |
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<rkdavis> |
as it's not ready for people to use yet |
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<rkdavis> |
as you'll need to be using u-boot, a mainline kernel and make a hardware mod and a cable also you'll need a powered hub or a way to add power to the usb cable (possibly later that can be removed but it'll kill the zipit battery) |
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<pnet> |
I'm looking for the Z2 Userland Image from RootNexus that is listed on the HunterDavis.com website. This image is suppose to boot directly into the GUI, the one I have boots to a root login. Thx |
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<rework> |
pnet: did you try this: http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/ |
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<pnet> |
yes. but, I used the 1gb-image. Is that correct or is it the Z2-RC1-PRE2.TAR.BZ2? |
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<rework> |
not sure. I've had it installed for a while now |
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<pnet> |
ok. well I'll give it a try. Thx |
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<adnyxo> |
ello |
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<adnyxo> |
stupid att had my internet down a while |
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<adnyxo> |
anyone recently brick a zipit? |
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<adnyxo> |
rkdavis, how much for a new zipit? still 50? |
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<Foxx> |
ive bricked mine, a while back |
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<Foxx> |
I had to do a serial recovery |
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<adnyxo> |
ah |
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<adnyxo> |
im looking to buy a bricked zipit for the display |
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<Foxx> |
i know |
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<adnyxo> |
i screwed my display up taking it apart |
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<Foxx> |
why am I not suprised? |
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<adnyxo> |
at least i know a bit more about displays now |
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<Foxx> |
oh wait, because you keep talking about idiotic casemods? |
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<adnyxo> |
cause you rightly assume everyone is a fuckwit |
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<adnyxo> |
yep |
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<Foxx> |
live and learn |
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<adnyxo> |
i intend to |
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<Foxx> |
hey, I warned you to stay away from the LCD in general |
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<Foxx> |
I wasnt kidding |
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<adnyxo> |
i wasnt trying to upgrade it |
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<Foxx> |
how did you break it? |
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<adnyxo> |
tore the ribbon cable |
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<Foxx> |
again, not suprised |
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<Foxx> |
those things are easy to break |
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<adnyxo> |
yep |
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<Foxx> |
had a lot of trouble with people tearing them while taking apart the Paystation 2 |
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<Foxx> |
Playstation* |
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<adnyxo> |
heh i just watched that segment |
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<Foxx> |
or breaking the hood off the ZIF/LIF socket headers |
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<adnyxo> |
you had about 15 minutes of soldering |
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<Foxx> |
yeah that segment was more about tips on surface mount soldering stuff |
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<Foxx> |
and dealing with really tiny easy to break bits |
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<adnyxo> |
well ive found that hands on experience is easiest to learn from... |
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<Foxx> |
same for me |
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<adnyxo> |
but also i should really listen to the smart people |
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<Foxx> |
or at least their warnings |
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<Foxx> |
sometimes its better to know what *not* to do |
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<adnyxo> |
true |
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<Foxx> |
example: when playing hide and seek, dont hide in a microwave |
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<adnyxo> |
but hey, ill be more careful with future (and probably more expensive) displays |
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<Foxx> |
http://www.kirotv.com/news/13702516/detail.html |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: ok how is next week looking? |
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<adnyxo> |
holy shit |
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<Foxx> |
cant tell that kid "live and learn" lol |
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<adnyxo> |
i thought you made that up |
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<Foxx> |
HAH! I bet you wish I did! |
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<Foxx> |
you think all the fucked up stuff I say is based off of just whacky crap I come up with? hells no |
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<adnyxo> |
i never thought to tell a child NOT to do that |
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<Foxx> |
I used to go to a private pool, one of the children went missing |
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<Foxx> |
went on the hunt for him, wasnt on the bottom of the pool |
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<adnyxo> |
and then |
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<adnyxo> |
where did they find it |
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<Foxx> |
I found him sleeping in a pay for washing machine that was part of the apartment building (part of the pool) |
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<Foxx> |
((pool was part of the building, rather)) |
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<adnyxo> |
ah |
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<Foxx> |
rkdavis, not sure, im keeping my week open right now |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Foxx> |
trying to get to A1 labs, NYC Resistor, and have a social life with the g/f and such |
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<Foxx> |
think I need to haul one of my rabbits to the vet ASAP |
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<Foxx> |
she hasnt really eaten in 3 days |
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<rkdavis> |
a social life with g/f -- what are you? some kinda freak? |
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<adnyxo> |
rkdavis, lol |
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<Foxx> |
yes, im that rare breed of technofreak that also has social skills |
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<Mcavity> |
overachever |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: have you trid her on boiled potato skins and bran? the rabbit i mean |
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<Foxx> |
wish my g/f would say that when she walks in on me cuddling with my other lil lady friend :/ |
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<rkdavis> |
rabbits and guinea pigs love that stuff |
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<Foxx> |
she seems to have something like a head cold or flu |
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<adnyxo> |
btw rkdavis, are you still selling zipits? |
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<adnyxo> |
i figure if i buy another might as well support you |
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<Foxx> |
runny nose, sneazing a lot, doesnt seem as active, always hiding in her back cage from light, people, and sound |
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<Foxx> |
Mcavity, watch my tech show, you will see I am a very social person in general |
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<Foxx> |
I go nuts when im locked in the house for too long, i need to mind-fuck people now and again |
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<Foxx> |
adnyxo, if you buy from rkdavis to support him, would you be interested in having the serial port mod done? |
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<Foxx> |
cause he lives literally 20 minutes from me, Ill it for ya, no problem |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: haven't got the cash for stock atm, gotta finish a job to get a supply in again, gave the last lot away |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: so he's best off checking ebay or writing to zipit to see if he can buy a screen |
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<Foxx> |
ahh ok, well, adnyxo has been a regular and is also a BSoD fan, figured id hook him up if possible |
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<Foxx> |
... pun? |
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<rkdavis> |
i bought 4 and sent them to neices and nephews because i am a nice uncle |
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<adnyxo> |
sry, i was gone |
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<adnyxo> |
how much for the serial mod? |
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<adnyxo> |
foxx |
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<Mcavity> |
coolness |
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<Foxx> |
well if you can wait for rkdavis to get some more zipits in stock and get from him, ill do it for whatever his cover price is |
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<Foxx> |
i wont be charging you for the labor (or parts) |
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<adnyxo> |
cool |
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<Mcavity> |
i still ahve 2 unopened zipits for whenever we get the whole usb thing going. =) |
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<Foxx> |
... and I can do the USB mod too |
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<Foxx> |
while im in there |
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<adnyxo> |
unless one goes on ebay real cheap, ill wait to buy from rk |
| [16:47:52] |
<Mcavity> |
i been a bit distracted last few weeks with sxsw and building my storage server. |
| [16:47:59] |
<adnyxo> |
now that i would pay for |
| [16:48:02] |
<rkdavis> |
adnyxo: Foxx is expensive :) at least $50/hour oh hang on you meant for soldering not other services |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
| [16:48:18] |
<adnyxo> |
i wonder how many mini usb ports you could fit on a zipi |
| [16:48:27] |
<Foxx> |
well I do run a small side shop of services... |
| [16:48:35] |
<adnyxo> |
sketchy services |
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<Foxx> |
no, repair |
| [16:48:40] |
<Foxx> |
and im not cheap |
| [16:48:48] |
<Mcavity> |
happy ending with a soldering iron is a bad thing... |
| [16:48:58] |
<rkdavis> |
adnyxo: remember spitzer and client number 9? well foxx was clients 1 through 8 |
| [16:49:10] |
<adnyxo> |
nope |
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<Foxx> |
I dont care why you need XYZ worked on, give me the parts and plans, it will be buily, fixed, repaired, etc |
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<adnyxo> |
sh |
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<Foxx> |
built* |
| [16:49:29] |
<adnyxo> |
ah |
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<Foxx> |
I do a lot of laptop repair |
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<Foxx> |
and ipods |
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<Foxx> |
and MP3 players |
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<Foxx> |
and... whatever broke that you need fixed, and if its worth it |
| [16:50:23] |
<adnyxo> |
ill remember that for the pile of crap im sure to break over the summer |
| [16:50:47] |
<Foxx> |
yah I have a lab full of slavaged stuff |
| [16:51:06] |
<Foxx> |
when something isnt worth fixing, people just give it to me |
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<Foxx> |
ive got at least three NDS Fats ive built from scrap parts |
| [16:51:25] |
<adnyxo> |
wow |
| [16:51:37] |
<Foxx> |
I have a shoebox of ipods |
| [16:51:39] |
<adnyxo> |
ive started telling people to give me broken tech |
| [16:51:54] |
<Foxx> |
thats the best way to fuck around with hardware |
| [16:51:55] |
<adnyxo> |
i need to build up a library |
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<Foxx> |
get yourself a heat gun |
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<Foxx> |
it will be the best $25 investment |
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<Foxx> |
I did a segment on PCB Salvage |
| [16:53:01] |
<adnyxo> |
i just saw that too |
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<adnyxo> |
you blew a crack in your kitchen counter |
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<Foxx> |
yep |
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<Foxx> |
after I said "Dont do this on your counter, you will fuck it up!" |
| [16:53:38] |
<adnyxo> |
lol ive been watching a lot of bsod lately |
| [16:53:55] |
<Foxx> |
notice how I spent a lot of time explaining safety and proper setup, and ignored all my own advice |
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<adnyxo> |
you didnt even listen to your own advice |
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<Foxx> |
yup |
| [16:54:03] |
<adnyxo> |
exactly |
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<Foxx> |
... good to know what *not* to do |
| [16:54:12] |
<adnyxo> |
as always |
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<Mcavity> |
heh |
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<Foxx> |
ill admit when I make mistakes, cause someone else can learn from em' |
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<Foxx> |
and I dont do Take-2 on BSoD, unless my camera dies |
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<Mcavity> |
i need to pay bils and stuff so i can see where my finances are . then decide if im going to get floors done. |
| [16:55:31] |
<Foxx> |
one of the BSoD'ers I met, his wife called me up and laughed at me after seeing that segment |
| [16:56:12] |
<adnyxo> |
your gf ran in asking if you were ok |
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<Foxx> |
no she was behind the camera |
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<Foxx> |
she always helps me when im working with the heat gun |
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<adnyxo> |
oh |
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<Foxx> |
sometimes I need to hurry up and hand it off before my parts cool down, and its not someting you can just let run and put it down |
| [16:57:13] |
<adnyxo> |
not if you want to keep your house |
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<adnyxo> |
or apartment |
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<Foxx> |
it could cause a fire, or worse |
| [16:57:42] |
<adnyxo> |
whats worse? |
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<adnyxo> |
burn your face off? |
| [16:58:08] |
<Foxx> |
inhale toxic fumes and getting killed |
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<Foxx> |
or duing serious damage to yourself |
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<Foxx> |
doing* |
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<adnyxo> |
ah |
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<Foxx> |
if you catch any flammable fumes with the thing... |
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<Foxx> |
SUCKS TO BE YOU |
| [16:59:02] |
<adnyxo> |
noted in my book of "do not dos" |
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<adnyxo> |
kaboommm\ |
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<Foxx> |
people wonder why I paint my nails, for two reasons... |
| [16:59:39] |
<Foxx> |
1) protects them from working with my hands |
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<adnyxo> |
why do you paint your nails |
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<Foxx> |
2) lets me know how much damage im doing to my fingers |
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<Foxx> |
I have nerve damage in my hands, I dont have 100% of the feeling in my fingertips |
| [17:00:41] |
<adnyxo> |
howd that happen? |
| [17:00:53] |
<Foxx> |
ive stuck my hand into a pot of boiling water and didnt realize it was boiling until it got to my upper knuckles |
| [17:00:56] |
<Foxx> |
brain injury |
| [17:01:35] |
<adnyxo> |
thats too bad |
| [17:01:58] |
<adnyxo> |
how do you work with such detailed soldering and such with no feeling in your fingertips ? |
| [17:02:09] |
<Foxx> |
a lot of experience |
| [17:02:15] |
<Mcavity> |
i have something similar though i dont paint my nails.. i just dont have the nerves |
| [17:02:38] |
<Foxx> |
Mcavity, I was doing serious damage to my fingers, I needed something to guage it. |
| [17:03:43] |
<Mcavity> |
yea i can bet.. i have sensation but the docs tell me its about 40% of what most people get |
| [17:04:08] |
<Mcavity> |
so something hurts its an ouch not ah "AHH!" |
| [17:04:22] |
<Foxx> |
yah its like I dont feel it until its too late |
| [17:05:05] |
<Foxx> |
it does help with the soldering stuff, because I can really get in close and hold parts with my fingers |
| [17:05:26] |
<Foxx> |
the years of working with my hands also toughened the skin up quite a bit |
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<aliosa27> |
if your in the usa i will do the mod for 25 bucks |
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<aliosa27> |
the lab of slavaged stuff lol |
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<aliosa27> |
my garage |
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<absamide> |
What is the USB mod? Installing a mini USB port on it? |
| [17:20:46] |
<Mcavity> |
absamide well its not ready yet from my understanding but thats the hope |
| [17:22:11] |
<absamide> |
Guessing this is just so we can plug it into a computer directly rather than have to move the card back and forth. Or did we find it has some way to plug USB devices into it and have them work? |
| [17:22:15] |
<Foxx> |
no |
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<aliosa27> |
this is a host mod |
| [17:22:26] |
<aliosa27> |
not client |
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<Foxx> |
there is a SMD resistor you need to disable, install the u-boot bootloader, and make a custom connector for the dock... |
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<Foxx> |
then install a linux kernel built that has USB Host support... and of course all of the kernel drivers for the devices you want to use |
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<Foxx> |
build* |
| [17:24:20] |
<Foxx> |
its a lot of nasty work that will destroy your Z2 if you dont have a clue to what you are doing |
| [17:25:30] |
<absamide> |
Yeah, but a whole lot of potential benefits if it works clean. Do the benefits outweigh the risk on the mod? |
| [17:25:54] |
<Foxx> |
not at the moment |
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<Mcavity> |
well for one being able to use a usb wifi card could be very usefull |
| [17:26:34] |
<Foxx> |
once things get a little refined it will be an easy mod to do, but for right now, unless you are into hardware/software hacking, there is no end-user benifit at the moment |
| [17:27:17] |
<absamide> |
Most certainly not me currently. Electronics to component level for years, but software is something I am only just barely starting to scratch the surface on. |
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<Foxx> |
im more of a hardware hacker myself |
| [17:28:12] |
<Foxx> |
my main fear is fucking with the bootloader |
| [17:28:19] |
<Foxx> |
im trying to keep away from that for now |
| [17:29:02] |
<Foxx> |
ive had my Z2 brick from a crappy SD card adapter while flashing, the serial mod got it back to life, and its all I use to reflash my Z2 now |
| [17:29:27] |
<absamide> |
I understand. It has sadly been probably 20 years since I did any real work with an iron so very rusty on that. As for software I haven't even gotten a clean build of the OE off the sourceforge site yet. |
| [17:30:00] |
<Foxx> |
ive probabbly got one of the cleanest serial mods right now, that im aware of |
| [17:30:09] |
<Foxx> |
most of the ones ive seen are 'dingleberry' mods |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/TechCrapGizmos#5401793984022747330 |
| [17:31:26] |
<absamide> |
There is certainly a point where skill level with soldering becomes more of an art form. Hundreds of hours of practice though. |
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* |
Foxx raises his hand |
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<absamide> |
That is very clean. Nice work. |
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<Foxx> |
thanks |
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<Foxx> |
hardest part was finding a place to put the connector |
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<Foxx> |
there isnt much room in the Z2 |
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<Mcavity> |
tryingto figureout where to place a huge 4u rackmount server case in my house.. and i dont have a big house. |
| [17:34:31] |
<adnyxo> |
get a bigger house |
| [17:34:44] |
<Foxx> |
kick the g/f out |
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<Foxx> |
(or wife) |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
its a norco 4020 and i have to do the fan mod at some time becouse its loud |
| [17:36:07] |
<Foxx> |
what are your plans for it? |
| [17:36:51] |
<Foxx> |
im thinking about taking some of my external HDDs and toss them on my Linksys NSLU2 SLUG NAS |
| [17:37:06] |
<Foxx> |
... you know, use a device for its intended purpouse |
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<aliosa27> |
my serial comes out over the back connector, I disabled 3 of the cameras lines |
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<Foxx> |
I got a breakout board for one of my CCD camera modules, im going to try and get it hooked up to the Z2 at some point |
| [17:40:06] |
<aliosa27> |
on my second zipit i started playing with the camera stuff with a sparkfun module |
| [17:40:12] |
<aliosa27> |
then abandoned it |
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<Foxx> |
how come? |
| [17:40:28] |
<aliosa27> |
could not figure out actaully what i would do with it |
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<Foxx> |
QR code scanner, to start with |
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<Mcavity> |
well its going to be a huge home storage server for my theater |
| [17:40:53] |
<Mcavity> |
20 drive bays yay storage |
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<adnyxo> |
sounds awesome |
| [17:41:06] |
<aliosa27> |
speaking of which, Mcavity did you get your driver issue sorted |
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<aliosa27> |
can you delete things now |
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<Mcavity> |
well i eneded up haveing to go in with a linux live cd track down the corrupt file and delete it manualy |
| [17:42:52] |
<Mcavity> |
and it seems the boot drive of the whs had devloped soem bad sectors |
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<aliosa27> |
so are you running whs again or gonna go with .nix |
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<ogmious09_> |
Atleast you're not going to have to heat the house |
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<Mcavity> |
well for now.. whs |
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<Mcavity> |
mainly becouse of the ese of adding / upgradeing drives |
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<Mcavity> |
and the fact i can run my transcodeing program on it |
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<Mcavity> |
ogmious09_ actualy it doesnt pull much juice.. got 4 drives in it now and its running about 50-60 watts |
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<Mcavity> |
each drive uses about 4-5 watt when not in use. |
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<ogmious09_> |
Didn't say anything about pulling juice |
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<Mcavity> |
well cuz of that it dosent get very hot |
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<Mcavity> |
big problem is the case has 7 fans + the powersupply fan.. |
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<Mcavity> |
i can replace 5 of the 80's with 3 120s and suposedly it gets much quieter while keeping same airflow |
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<ogmious09_> |
well lucked out, but throw those 20 hard drives in and it'll change |
| [18:01:07] |
<ogmious09_> |
Built an editing machine for a guy who takes peoples videos and makes blurays out of them last week with 8 hard drives in raid last week and it makes the room have little heat waves like desert movies |
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<Mcavity> |
under normal useage onle one or two drives should be in use at any one time. If it was an editing box running raid yea.. it would defently get warm lol |
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<ogmious09_> |
built our first system with all solid state hard drives yesterday, couldn't stop drooling |
| [18:03:06] |
<Mcavity> |
ohh $$ and speeeeed |
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<ogmious09_> |
Oh it was some expensive stuff, guy is a day trader so he wanted INSTANT |
| [18:04:16] |
<ogmious09_> |
really wanted ot do raid with them but the lack of TRIM support for raid killboshed that |
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<Mcavity> |
is it one of those drives that runs direct off the pcie bus? |
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<ogmious09_> |
no, SATA II |
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<Mcavity> |
ahhh |
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<Mcavity> |
sata solid state drives make me drool |
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<Mcavity> |
this makes my pants feel funny.. http://www.storagereview.com/lsi_pci_express_solid_state_storage_card_now_sampling_oems |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<adnyxo> |
tmi |
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<Mcavity> |
grins |
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<Mcavity> |
i dunno if your a geek and that dosent have an effect. theres something wrong.. |
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<adnyxo> |
well not quite the same effect |
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<adnyxo> |
lol |
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<adnyxo> |
plus, expensive ones turn me offf |
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<ogmious09_> |
I'm not gonna admit I got tingly but it is cool |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
prices drop so someday that thing will be afordable |
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<ogmious09_> |
sigh how to tell this customer that her 12 year old son is into some seriously freaky porn |
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<adnyxo> |
btw i submitted your two lines to bash.org |
| [18:13:27] |
<adnyxo> |
what? |
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<ogmious09_> |
Not sure I could handle knowing my 12 year old was into animal sex and then it all goes down hill from there |
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<adnyxo> |
someone called tech support wondering how that stuff could end up in her browsers history? |
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<ogmious09_> |
No they brought a machine into the shop with those stupid fake anti-virus programs going and wanted me to check for anything out of the norm |
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<ogmious09_> |
Norm left town a long time ago from what I am finding |
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<adnyxo> |
oh |
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<adnyxo> |
not fun |
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<ogmious09_> |
Normally we just incorporate a dont ask dont tell on this kinda stuff and purposely not look for it but she asked and it is a kid. |
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<ogmious09_> |
Hope this kid just wants to be a Serious farmer/animal breeder and is looking for examples on what not to do |
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<adnyxo> |
well thats promising |
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<adnyxo> |
lol |
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<adnyxo> |
never would have thought of that way to explain it |
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<ogmious09_> |
Hey look at it this way. He really loves the family pet and atleast you wont have any grand kids to early |
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<Mcavity> |
ive got good news and bad news.. wich do you want first |
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<adnyxo> |
bad |
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<ogmious09_> |
she seemed ultra conservative. I could put a positive swing on it. Hey, atleast he's not gay |
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<adnyxo> |
ogmious09_, one way to look at it |
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<Mcavity> |
your kids gona need therapy |
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<adnyxo> |
ogmious09_, true |
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<Mcavity> |
but compared to that.. the bill for cleaning up this sytem will be cheap! |
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<ogmious09_> |
Hey do you like puppies? |
| [18:21:48] |
<ogmious09_> |
Yeah? How bout freaky half human puppies? Because if you do, you're gonna be REALLY Stoked |
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<adnyxo> |
wow |
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<adnyxo> |
way to break it to her |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
$ cowsay -f head-in.cow youre doing it wrong |
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<Frosty> |
Can anyone offer me a little help with my zipit? |
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<Mcavity> |
ugh.. now i got problems.. my iphone bricked.. |
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<rkdavis> |
well that'll teach you to drink the jobsian kool aid |
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<Mcavity> |
well it was the cheapest smartphone deal i cound find.. [and i think i have it fixing itself now] |
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<Mcavity> |
55 a month was hard to beat |
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