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[08:30:57] <adnyxo> morning all, morning rkdavis
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[11:18:53] <FiftyOneFifty> Another flashless YouTube streamer. Looks like it needs QT and GStreamer, so I don't know if it be of any utility on the ZipIt. I'll see what I can do with it. http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[11:24:44] <marex> christ ... that device has too weak hardware
[11:42:00] <adnyxo> any bricked zipits to sell? anyone?
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[12:35:59] <netbook> Anyone try booting zipit img from qemu?
[12:39:32] <netbook> I want to manage packages faster... takes so long to run aptitude
[13:18:18] <adnyxo> hey netbook
[13:18:39] <adnyxo> sry about the disconnect
[13:18:49] <adnyxo> still need me to test
[13:19:04] <adnyxo> the servver
[13:22:50] <netbook> adnyxo no prob, i got wicky to try it out
[13:23:08] <netbook> the upload isn't bad, upto 200kbps
[13:23:24] <adnyxo> nice
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[13:32:59] <adnyxo> wtf my wireless is acting so slow!
[13:48:32] <adnyxo> stupid att
[13:48:43] <adnyxo> working on the network outside
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[18:37:16] <netbook> marex you get qemu to boot zipit2 images?
[18:38:16] <netbook> I did a dd of my zipit2 sd card, I want to mess around with it with qemu, but can't seem to get it to boot
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[18:57:51] <netbook> Marex-N900 you get qemu to boot zipit2 images?
[19:00:16] <Marex-N900> netbook, no, but qemu can boot linux kernel and it can run arm binaries
[19:00:47] <Marex-N900> I used qemu-arm a lot for other purposes though
[19:01:22] <netbook> Marex-N900 I made a dd image of my sd card, i want to mess around with it in qemu, think that is possible?
[19:02:00] <Marex-N900> netbook, yes
[19:03:59] <Marex-N900> @ping
[19:03:59] <SB-Zipit> pong
[19:04:56] <netbook> N900 is a sexy thing :D I was thinking about rooting my droid
[19:05:18] <netbook> OpenPandora will be assembled soon too :)
[19:06:25] <Marex-N900> ok
[19:06:44] <netbook> heh
[19:09:43] <Marex-N900> I wont ever get a google spyphone ... never
[19:16:09] <netbook> I suppose nokia is a saint ><
[19:17:30] <Marex-N900> netbook, they arent, but they arent a big bro corp like google
[19:17:31] <Marex-N900> and whats more important...
[19:18:15] <Marex-N900> ...they DO behave well towards linux kernel community (unlike goo-gle)
[19:22:22] <netbook> If I need to go undercover I will make another identity
[19:27:36] <Marex-N900> netbook, thats not the problem, google just knows too much about you ... they have your emails, your calendar, your location data ...
[19:29:05] <netbook> (and google voice)
[19:29:49] <netbook> They have vague location data, but as I thought yesterday, I use a bus pass which can be used much more accurately than cell phone
[19:30:01] <netbook> I don't use calendar and I disable webhistory and such
[19:30:26] <netbook> I spread my email across multiple accounts, of course they can check by IP i guess
[19:30:39] <netbook> i made a new google account for my phoen
[19:31:42] <Marex-N900> its the contents of the emails thats important
[19:32:38] <netbook> yay means someone is reading my poetry
[19:32:42] <netbook> just kidding
[19:34:29] <netbook> I'll dump them when I feel like it. I might get my own host for email.
[19:34:36] <netbook> Hell might run it off zipit
[19:35:28] <Marex-N900> netbook, you need quite a powerful machine if you want spamfiltering too
[19:35:41] <netbook> oh yea...
[19:36:06] <Marex-N900> netbook, btw all data on google servers are owned by google (read the license)
[19:36:36] <netbook> I'm sure it is, I think if I delete messages they are deleted for real
[19:36:45] <Marex-N900> also, if you delete a mail from google account, its just made invisible, its never deleted
[19:37:05] <netbook> I doubt that, they would be hosting so much spam if that was the case
[19:37:05] <Marex-N900> youre naive
[19:37:09] <netbook> I
[19:37:31] <Marex-N900> they have enough capacity for that ... sheesh
[19:38:02] <netbook> spam is a huge percent of traffic on internet, enormous, they wouldn't want to keep it
[19:38:24] <netbook> I am naive about how the hell the zimage kernel gets booted on zipit
[19:38:30] <netbook> and about many other linuxy things
[19:38:57] <Marex-N900> uboot cant boot zimage
[19:39:34] <Marex-N900> you need to 'make uImage' and produce an uImage
[19:39:35] <netbook> I need a kernel image to start a qemu arm machine
[19:39:41] <netbook> oh ok
[19:41:02] <netbook> Marex-N900 there are a few uImages, one in boot and one in /
[19:41:03] <Marex-N900> you will need to hack some basic support for z2 into qemu first, should be simple
[19:41:24] <netbook> heh simple for others. I'll read some docs
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[19:46:33] * netbook is open to ideas
[19:54:17] <Marex-N900> ok
[20:00:57] <netbook> qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x30008000
[20:01:01] <netbook> getting somewhere
[20:08:25] <Marex-N900> what did you run?
[20:09:13] <netbook> sudo /usr/bin/qemu-system-arm -kernel '/home/me/boot/2440/uImage' -boot c -m 256 -hda '/home/me/hda.img' -net nic,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0 -localtime &
[20:09:19] <netbook> that uImage is off the zipit
[20:10:43] <Marex-N900> 2440?
[20:10:50] <Marex-N900> samsung?
[20:12:08] * netbook shrugs
[20:12:29] <netbook> the zImage-2.6.29 just shows a black screen and uses up one of my cores
[20:12:51] <netbook> looking into making a uboot for arm on qemu
[20:12:56] <netbook> http://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/u-boot-for-arm-on-qemu/
[20:14:45] <netbook> only seems to have pxa255_idp_config though
[20:19:36] <netbook> http://marex-hnd.blogspot.com/2009/07/zipit-z2-bootloader-hacking.html
[20:19:40] <netbook> that seems promising
[20:21:02] <netbook> wait that's your blog
[20:21:03] <netbook> haha
[20:21:16] <netbook> <-- nub
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[20:29:07] <netbook> Wow I am a moron.
[20:31:09] <netbook> what is the root in zipit? root=/dev/sda?
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[20:44:43] <marex> mmcblk0pX
[20:46:52] <netbook> that isn't listed in /dev/
[20:51:50] <netbook> nevermind i am a fool again
[21:00:02] <netbook> I am using the versatile kernel and can't get it to recognize /dev/mmc*
[21:00:09] <netbook> i'll have to do that uboot thing i guess
[21:02:37] <netbook> but i learned how sd cards are mounted ><
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