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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<adnyxo> |
morning rkdavis |
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<adnyxo> |
and all |
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<rkdavis> |
morning adnyxo |
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<adnyxo> |
whatsup |
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<adnyxo> |
anyone have a broken z2 to sell?> |
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<ogmious09> |
how broken? |
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<ogmious09> |
does papercraft count? |
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<muriani> |
lol |
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<adnyxo> |
papercraft? |
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<adnyxo> |
i just need one wiht a good lcd, board doesnt matter, it can be bricked or fried |
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<adnyxo> |
as long as the lcd is still good |
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<adnyxo> |
eventually someone will brick theirs |
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<adnyxo> |
and then i can buy it |
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<Foxx> |
im waiting for the same thing |
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<Aelius> |
did jagsph get a life without telling us? XD |
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<netbook> |
Did aliosa make a new repo for his Zipit images? http://aliosa27.net/blog/?p=8 |
| [18:44:43] |
<rkdavis> |
not yet |
| [18:48:41] |
<netbook> |
How do you know if your zipit is bricked? |
| [18:50:08] |
<adnyxo> |
it doesnt turn on :P |
| [18:50:15] |
<adnyxo> |
ill buy it from you if it is |
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<netbook> |
So if I can get to boot screen it isn't bricked |
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<netbook> |
*it |
| [18:50:33] |
<adnyxo> |
but dont worry, theres people here who will help make sure its bricked |
| [18:50:43] |
<adnyxo> |
the openzipit screen? |
| [18:50:48] |
<netbook> |
Ja |
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<netbook> |
yes |
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<adnyxo> |
is there a cursor in the top left corner |
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<netbook> |
blinking |
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<netbook> |
maybe I didn't copy over the files correctly |
| [18:51:29] |
<adnyxo> |
that seems to be the problem |
| [18:51:45] |
<adnyxo> |
but rkdavis would know better |
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<netbook> |
well the cpu button blinks occasionally |
| [18:52:02] |
<adnyxo> |
i thought i bricked my zipit, but i just hadnt made the sd card button right |
| [18:52:06] |
<netbook> |
err light, green light next to batt light |
| [18:52:08] |
<adnyxo> |
how long have you left it? |
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<netbook> |
5 minutes |
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<netbook> |
why do you want bricked z2s? |
| [18:52:46] |
<adnyxo> |
i need a new display for mine |
| [18:52:54] |
<netbook> |
oh bummer |
| [18:53:01] |
<adnyxo> |
and also with some soldering you can recover the board |
| [18:53:09] |
<netbook> |
They dont' sell them for 25$ anymore? |
| [18:53:26] |
<adnyxo> |
a solid cursor signifies a file system error, like the sd card |
| [18:53:34] |
<adnyxo> |
i think a blinking cursor is a bad thing |
| [18:53:40] |
<adnyxo> |
but like i said, ask rkdacis |
| [18:53:43] |
<adnyxo> |
rkdavis, |
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<adnyxo> |
nope |
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<rkdavis> |
eh sorry what? watching the tv |
| [18:54:37] |
<adnyxo> |
hey |
| [18:54:45] |
<adnyxo> |
netbook needs to know if his zipit is bricked |
| [18:54:58] |
<rkdavis> |
ok whayt symptoms? |
| [18:55:01] |
<adnyxo> |
he can get to the openzipit boot screen, but its a blinking cursor |
| [18:55:02] |
<netbook> |
rkdavis, blinking cursor upper left on OpenZipit screen |
| [18:55:10] |
<adnyxo> |
solid means fs error, right |
| [18:55:17] |
<netbook> |
'cpu' green light blniks occasinally |
| [18:55:24] |
<rkdavis> |
thats ok -- normally means still booting or bad sd card |
| [18:55:27] |
<netbook> |
the one next to battery light |
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<netbook> |
been donig that for a while, it could be bad sd card i gues |
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<netbook> |
i have formatted that thing so many times |
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<rkdavis> |
solid cursor bad, blinking crsor reasonably ok |
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<netbook> |
so it has been like this for >5 minutes |
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<netbook> |
should i pullit out and try copying over image files again? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that is a long time -- probably bad sd card config |
| [18:57:41] |
<adnyxo> |
couldnt hurt, unless rkdavis has a better suggestion |
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<adnyxo> |
(he usually does tho) |
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<rkdavis> |
basically if you get a blinking cursor and it stays blinking then the processor is doing something so it's not brocked, a solid cursor basically means it kernel paniced somewhere and could be bricked |
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<netbook> |
alright i am pulling battery |
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<adnyxo> |
theres a reset button on the left side |
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<netbook> |
Thanks, |
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<netbook> |
I am trying to setup my zipit as a dropbox server, is there an image i should try? |
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<netbook> |
No need for X server |
| [19:00:58] |
<adnyxo> |
you could try the rootnexus image |
| [19:01:07] |
<adnyxo> |
built on debian, but with some nice tweaks |
| [19:01:25] |
<adnyxo> |
but depending on what you need just plain debian may be better |
| [19:01:35] |
<adnyxo> |
ask rkdavis about openembedded |
| [19:01:40] |
<adnyxo> |
he seems to be a big fan |
| [19:01:59] |
<adnyxo> |
im really not one to ask about difficult linux questions |
| [19:02:06] |
<adnyxo> |
rkdavis is our local linux expert |
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<rkdavis> |
nope i'm not |
| [19:02:51] |
<adnyxo> |
? |
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<rkdavis> |
but i have beenm with the zipit long enough to have made 90% f the mistake |
| [19:03:05] |
<netbook> |
heh |
| [19:03:12] |
<adnyxo> |
well, rkdavis is the experienced one around here |
| [19:03:20] |
<adnyxo> |
in his age too :P |
| [19:03:27] |
<rkdavis> |
you could use iz2s and scratchbox if you don't need x |
| [19:03:47] |
<rkdavis> |
a ledgend in my own lunchtime |
| [19:04:44] |
<netbook> |
man it is tought keeping these zipit distros in mind |
| [19:05:18] |
<adnyxo> |
http://rayhaque.blogspot.com/ |
| [19:05:23] |
<adnyxo> |
for iz2s |
| [19:05:30] |
<rkdavis> |
well really only 4 to worry about |
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<adnyxo> |
debian |
| [19:05:37] |
<rkdavis> |
iz2s |
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<adnyxo> |
openembedded |
| [19:05:41] |
<adnyxo> |
iz2s |
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<adnyxo> |
rootnexus |
| [19:05:46] |
<adnyxo> |
right? |
| [19:05:48] |
<rkdavis> |
buildroot |
| [19:05:54] |
<rkdavis> |
oe and debian |
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<rkdavis> |
well rootnexus is debian so really the same as aliosa2's debian |
| [19:06:28] |
<rkdavis> |
oe is just oe |
| [19:06:28] |
<adnyxo> |
ah |
| [19:06:32] |
<adnyxo> |
whats buildroot |
| [19:06:34] |
<netbook> |
I am comfortable on debian I guess |
| [19:06:35] |
<rkdavis> |
iz2s uses scratchbox |
| [19:06:37] |
<netbook> |
and i like apt |
| [19:06:40] |
<adnyxo> |
perhaps i should try it |
| [19:06:44] |
<rkdavis> |
and buildroot is a pita |
| [19:06:49] |
<adnyxo> |
whats a pita |
| [19:06:52] |
<adnyxo> |
lol |
| [19:07:15] |
<wicknix3> |
pita = pain in the arse |
| [19:07:23] |
<rkdavis> |
pita == pain in the arse |
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<adnyxo> |
!google pita |
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<adnyxo> |
eh, i forgot |
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<adnyxo> |
im not in the channel that has a google bot |
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<netbook> |
also a word for flat bread i think |
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<adnyxo> |
ah |
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<adnyxo> |
thats nice |
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<adnyxo> |
i dont need any more of those |
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<wicknix3> |
rkdavis, i haver a new project. Should keep me bust for awhile. netbook w/samsung arm11 @667mhz, 256mb ram, running CE6. Same specs as a smartq7. So in theory i could put arm ubuntu or android on it. |
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<wicknix3> |
bust/busy |
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<rkdavis> |
wicknix3: nice |
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<rkdavis> |
how much and from where did you get it? |
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<wicknix3> |
yeah. just need to figure out the bootloader really |
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<wicknix3> |
i got it for $100 of ebay |
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<wicknix3> |
o-digital tiny-book |
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<rkdavis> |
didn't aliosa27 get linux on one of those ce based ones and swap the bootloader recently? |
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<netbook> |
Yea I saw hunter's vid on a headless eeepc (atom 1.6ghz) netbook for 50$ |
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<wicknix3> |
but here is like no info on the web about it |
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<adnyxo> |
how much? |
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<adnyxo> |
what size screen |
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<ogmious09> |
if wicknix is on it, I gonna have to get one |
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<wicknix3> |
rkdavis, yeah i think that was one of the via-8505 powered machines |
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<ogmious09> |
gettings rkdavis |
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<ogmious09> |
got an ebay link wicknix? |
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<wicknix3> |
big thread on ubuntu forums about it |
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<wicknix3> |
for mine? yeah 1 sec |
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<netbook> |
on my box, "sudo umount zipit" seems to have stalled out |
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<netbook> |
just copied rootnexus to it. |
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<rkdavis> |
brb neeed to put the spuds on for dinner |
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<ogmious09> |
took about 15 minutes for it to do it for me netbook |
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<adnyxo> |
netbook, it will take a while |
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<wicknix3> |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110502355572&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT |
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<netbook> |
Ahhh, i had been pulling it out before >< |
| [19:14:33] |
<adnyxo> |
at least the first time |
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<ogmious09> |
looks like nothing is going on but it is |
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<wicknix3> |
is what i got. no real info on the web about them though |
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<adnyxo> |
if my experience is any indication |
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<ogmious09> |
huh, looks like another liliputing device |
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<ogmious09> |
Candidate for 3MX |
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<wicknix3> |
ogmious09, better. arm ubuntu is my goal :) |
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<ogmious09> |
says windows embedded bu that has to be WincE right? |
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<wicknix3> |
yeah ce6 |
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<ogmious09> |
I mean xp embedded is x86 only right? |
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<wicknix3> |
yep |
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<ogmious09> |
well ce6 aint that much or a slouch |
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<ogmious09> |
i'd be happy with it on the zipit |
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<ogmious09> |
just to get some good network monitors going |
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<wicknix3> |
yeah but 320x240 is a bit too small for ce's UI |
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<ogmious09> |
huh, yeah prolly |
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<wicknix3> |
i actually just hacked roxirc (tcl/tk irc client) to run on wince |
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<wicknix3> |
dirty hack ,but it works |
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<ogmious09> |
been playing with angstrom on the zipit, course I am outta my league though |
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<adnyxo> |
what about maemo on the zipit? |
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<rkdavis> |
wicknix3: if that works try Tkabber -- it does xmpp and via a plugin irc |
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<ogmious09> |
looks like you got the only one on ebay for the moment wicknix |
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<rkdavis> |
and shouldn't need much hacking if tktcl works |
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<ogmious09> |
maemo looks pretty neet, though I know diddly |
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<netbook> |
Alright round 2... fight |
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<netbook> |
I'll see what happens |
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<wicknix3> |
http://www.hpcfactor.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=14978&posts=2 |
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<wicknix3> |
it looks ok. had dcc, logging etc. stuff ce irc clients lack |
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<wicknix3> |
cool. will look into it |
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<wicknix3> |
rkdavis, yeah im using etcl for winmobile |
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<wicknix3> |
brb |
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<netbook> |
sweet rootnexus is up |
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<adnyxo> |
netbook, hows it going? |
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<netbook> |
its working, i was pulling the card too early |
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<netbook> |
i just need to disable x server and i should be good |
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<adnyxo> |
thats too bad |
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<adnyxo> |
i needed a zipit screen :P |
| [19:27:56] |
<adnyxo> |
but seriously, thats good |
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<netbook> |
rootnexus keyboard cheatsheet around? i forget how to switch to mouse mode |
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<adnyxo> |
option |
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<netbook> |
adnyxo yea :p |
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<netbook> |
something will work out i'm sure |
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<adnyxo> |
but its right and left click buttons are reversed |
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<adnyxo> |
right click is inside the circle |
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<adnyxo> |
left is the stop button |
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<ogmious09> |
well maemo is what they use on the nokia 810 which has some far nicer specs than our zipit and not even sure it can run on xscale |
| [19:29:20] |
<ogmious09> |
well I guess it should, it's just a modified debain |
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<adnyxo> |
thats what i thought |
| [19:30:24] |
<ogmious09> |
but I think and I could be totally talking out my pie hole that it would be dog slow on the zipit going form the general specs it was designed for |
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<adnyxo> |
netbook: ctrl is the ..., ctrl m maximize, ctrl f fullscrene, thats all i remember off the top of my head |
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<adnyxo> |
oh and page up and down are the next and prev buttons |
| [19:33:27] |
<wicknix3> |
i still have to finish up my "cleaned up" rootnexus userland. stripped it of a lot of bulk, killed off desktop icons, and other tweaks. |
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<wicknix3> |
http://www.hostwork.com/users/matt/zipitz2/image/z2-desktop.png |
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<adnyxo> |
cool |
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<adnyxo> |
can you put up the image for download? |
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<wicknix3> |
once i finish it up yeah |
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<netbook> |
sudo command not found ?:-/ |
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<adnyxo> |
yep |
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<adnyxo> |
thats normal |
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<wicknix3> |
netbook, just use 'su' passwd debian |
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<ogmious09> |
hurry wicknix, need some fresh mea |
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<wicknix3> |
runs doom nicely too :) |
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<wicknix3> |
http://www.hostwork.com/users/matt/zipitz2/image/z2-prboom.png |
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<netbook> |
thanks wicknix3 |
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<wicknix3> |
np |
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<rkdavis> |
i have prboom running in z2shell rotated the right way now too |
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<rkdavis> |
works well |
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<rkdavis> |
but i need to see why sound isn't working atm |
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<ogmious09> |
this your could get something like wifi radar running on the zipit wicknix? |
| [19:40:34] |
<ogmious09> |
*think |
| [19:40:51] |
<ogmious09> |
nevermind scratch that whole sentence, let's start over, lol |
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<wicknix3> |
kismet should work, but i dont think the wifi firmware supports monitor mode. |
| [19:41:23] |
<adnyxo> |
also, what about opera mini on the zipit |
| [19:41:27] |
<adnyxo> |
or opera mobile |
| [19:42:08] |
<ogmious09> |
the original software had the ability to survey and display wireless networks with strength, that's all I want on this thing for now |
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<ogmious09> |
I have played around with just about everyone I could find, only two or three would install properly but all were dog slow and didn't work |
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<netbook> |
What do you gues use your zipits for? |
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<wicknix3> |
i'd recommend trying kismet then. it's a bitch to set up the config, but that'd prob be the best choice. |
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<netbook> |
*guys |
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<adnyxo> |
internet radio, email |
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<adnyxo> |
chat irc |
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<adnyxo> |
chat, irc |
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<adnyxo> |
news updates |
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<wicknix3> |
netbook, right now, just a webserver for my local intranet |
| [19:43:51] |
<adnyxo> |
rss reader |
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<wicknix3> |
and an irc logger |
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<adnyxo> |
ars mobile works pretty well |
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<netbook> |
I got a droid last november so I haven't had need to use it. I had used zipit as mp3 player |
| [19:44:22] |
<adnyxo> |
and a bit of gaming too |
| [19:44:23] |
<wicknix3> |
and a toilet gaming system..lol |
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<netbook> |
wicknix3 how has it done as a webserver? |
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<netbook> |
that is what I am going to do this time around |
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<wicknix3> |
works well |
| [19:45:07] |
<wicknix3> |
using thttpd |
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<netbook> |
I am thinking of trying this out: http://fak3r.com/2009/09/14/howto-build-your-own-open-source-dropbox-clone/ |
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<wicknix3> |
neat |
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<wicknix3> |
i guess i also use the zipit to ssh into from my CE devices to have decent irc and im clients on CE |
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<adnyxo> |
the sd card limit is eight gigs right? |
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<netbook> |
well my droid came with 16 gig microsd |
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<netbook> |
I have a 8 gig microsd I use with zipit, more than enough for my files and such |
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<netbook> |
i would use it for torrent but wifi is so slow :( |
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<wicknix3> |
i think its 32 gig, but i could be wrong |
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<adnyxo> |
only b wifi |
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<adnyxo> |
wicknix3, i mean the sd slot only supports up to 8 |
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<adnyxo> |
i hope i can put at least 16 gig, that would hold all my music and podcasts |
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<adnyxo> |
with usb i mean |
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<ogmious09> |
the nanonote runs wrt, I thought that was primarily a router distro? |
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<netbook> |
wish the backport usb would get working.... usb -> ethernet :D |
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<wicknix3> |
possibly yeah. i guess i never looked into it much. |
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<wicknix3> |
my old 1999 jornada728 can handle up to 32gig cf cards fine |
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<wicknix3> |
id think the zipit should at least be the same |
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<wicknix3> |
problem with the nanonote is it has no built in wifi |
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<wicknix3> |
and it costs $99 |
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<wicknix3> |
the microsd wifi card for it costs about $70 |
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<wicknix3> |
too much IMO |
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<adnyxo> |
damn |
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<adnyxo> |
thats too much |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah but other than that very similar in design so I mean the more attention, more developers, etc |
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<adnyxo> |
for that$150 you could get a decent home server |
| [19:55:17] |
<adnyxo> |
with a tb |
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<wicknix3> |
ogmious09, but thats mips based |
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<wicknix3> |
the nanonote |
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<wicknix3> |
same cpu as the alpha400 |
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<wicknix3> |
:) |
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<adnyxo> |
the $30-$50 price point is the big seller on the zipit for me |
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<ogmious09> |
damn really. I thought I read the same as the zipit |
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<ogmious09> |
nevermind then |
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<ogmious09> |
course couldn't we get your 3mc running on it then? |
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<ogmious09> |
*3mx |
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<wicknix3> |
doubt it. nanonote only has 32mb ram |
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<ogmious09> |
curses |
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<ogmious09> |
damn meddling kids |
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<wicknix3> |
heh |
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<wicknix3> |
i mean it *might* run, but it'd be slow |
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<ogmious09> |
bugger that |
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<ogmious09> |
guess I'll just keep fiddling wiht angstrom |
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<ogmious09> |
and course your image if you ever get round to it |
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<wicknix3> |
but, good news i guess... jlime is working on a nanonote userland and feed |
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<ogmious09> |
get him over to the zipit |
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<ogmious09> |
or is he stucks on the mips development too |
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<wicknix3> |
thats an entire community (jlime) |
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<ogmious09> |
just like making me look like a dingus dont yeah |
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<wicknix3> |
jlime.com i developed mongo (jornada 7xx) and henchman (mobilepro 900c) |
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<ogmious09> |
lol |
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<wicknix3> |
then i walked away from it to play with other devices |
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<ogmious09> |
Never got into the mobilepro or jornada stuff, I saw it awhile after all the hype went down and never bought one for the fun |
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<adnyxo> |
i wish the zipit just had a bit more ram |
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<adnyxo> |
128 megs would open so many more possibilities |
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<adnyxo> |
like a real browser |
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<wicknix3> |
ogmious09, here's a shot of my userland for jornada 720 |
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<wicknix3> |
http://jlime.com/downloads/gallery/screenshots/mongo-desktop.png |
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<Aelius> |
real browser? |
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<ogmious09> |
well do we know if there are really any limitations to adding more ram? I mean has anyone tried |
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<Aelius> |
for the zipit... x11 forwarding or vnc, only solution really |
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<ogmious09> |
with a little direction I would be more than up to soldering a different chip on there |
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<wicknix3> |
32 meg is plenty for a real browser. i ran firefox on 32mb of ram already |
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<ogmious09> |
or is it a funky surface mount with the pins under the chip |
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<wicknix3> |
the 320x240 res is what kills it for the zipit |
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<adnyxo> |
well its possible to upgrade the display |
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<adnyxo> |
firefox on 32 mb? |
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<wicknix3> |
but browsers like netsurf and midori would run fine on 32mb |
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<adnyxo> |
that must have been a hell of a slow day |
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<wicknix3> |
adnyxo, yep. jornada 720. 206mhz w/32mb ram |
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<Aelius> |
lol...get a laptop adnyxo |
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<wicknix3> |
nope. 35 seconds to load firefox, and page rendering was quite fast. avg 7-10 seconds per page |
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<ogmious09> |
can't be that much of a killer, I mean we phone type on these things anyways like 6 inches from our face |
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<wicknix3> |
ogmious09, rendering wise its a killer. you'd be scrolling and scrolling side to side |
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<Aelius> |
perhaps j2me? |
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<Aelius> |
if we could get mobile browsers working |
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<ogmious09> |
you know I look at devices like my t-mobile dash that has a 320 x 240 screen and I could do anything on that, without a touch screen too |
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<wicknix3> |
http://jlime.com/downloads/gallery/videos/jornada-700-firefox.mp4 <--jornada720 running firefox |
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<wicknix3> |
to prove my point :) |
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<ogmious09> |
making me install quicktime |
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<ogmious09> |
wonder if some of those cooked roms from xda developers could be ported |
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<wicknix3> |
quicktime. egads |
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<Aelius> |
the mobile opera browser has a zoom function; renders the whole page, lets you zoom in on parts |
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<ogmious09> |
you and your mp4 video |
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<wicknix3> |
use mplayer for windows :P |
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<wicknix3> |
or vlc for windows |
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<Aelius> |
or codecs |
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<adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Aelius> |
java works on linux; someone look at getting the j2me environment to work |
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<Aelius> |
<using zipit currently> |
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<Aelius> |
away |
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<ogmious09> |
yeah yeah, post that link again wicknix |
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<ogmious09> |
wife uses this lappie cant do any funky things with it |
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<wicknix3> |
http://jlime.com/downloads/gallery/videos/jornada-700-firefox.mp4 |
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<wicknix3> |
not a great video. just shows it running and loading a webpage at a decent speed |
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<ogmious09> |
and I use mediaplayerclassic for the record |
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<wicknix3> |
i was just suggesting the nice opensource *nix ports of mplayer or vlc |
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<wicknix3> |
anything but quicktime..lol |
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<ogmious09> |
well to be honest never looked at mplayer for windows |
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<wicknix3> |
its a must have |
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<wicknix3> |
plays anything you throw at it |
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<ogmious09> |
and I like VLC, use it on the htpc but on the lappies I keep it basic for the wife |
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<ogmious09> |
she likes that being able to click on a link and having it play in the browser |
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<ogmious09> |
honestly I kinda like it too and using the plugin for firefox always caused quirks for me |
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<ogmious09> |
hate to revert back to the stock software on the zipit just to get that wifi survey gui |
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<wicknix3> |
http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home/?page=projects |
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<wicknix3> |
try kismet then. should work if thats all you need it for |
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<pacifica> |
Hello, I'm new to IRC and ZIPIT. I've successfully run links and links2 on it, but it's not very easy to use. Trying to use yahoo mail for instance is almost impossible. All I basiclly want to do with it is email and google searches. Do people here find it satisfactory, or have any tips for improving the experience. Is there a way to look up chat logs? maybe I could find something in there? |
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<ogmious09> |
I tried it, believe I ran into errors, I'll have to revisit it I suppose wicknix |
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<ogmious09> |
these would be good for portable zoneminder viewers too |
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<ogmious09> |
got 5 hotels we are gonna be installing wireless camera systems into this month and these little guys would make it so much easier to verify with |
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<ogmious09> |
Guess I should just break down and buy nokia tablets |
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<wicknix3> |
or shouldve kept your alpha400 ..heh |
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<wicknix3> |
pacifica, http://linux.zipitwireless.com/irclogs |
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<netbook> |
thats pretty nifty page |
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<netbook> |
pacifica you might want to try some CLI email clients like PINE. |
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<netbook> |
Alright I am moving /etc/rcS.d/S13x11-common to a different directory, we'll see what happens on startup |
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<netbook> |
and that didn't do anything heh |
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<wicknix3> |
x11 gets started in /root/.xinitrc |
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<netbook> |
it isn't in there, and "find / .xinitrc" didn't turn up anything |
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<netbook> |
I am on rootnexus |
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<wicknix3> |
its in roots folder |
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<netbook> |
only .xsession-erros and .Xauthority are in /root |
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<netbook> |
well fluxbox is there i'll check that out |
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<netbook> |
.fluxbox |
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<wicknix3> |
fluxbox? you arent using rootnexus then |
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<wicknix3> |
rootnexus uses matchbox and lxpanel |
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<netbook> |
I got tar from here: http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/ |
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<netbook> |
maybe he switched wm with version or something |
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<wicknix3> |
ahh my bad... not in /root. but /home/user/.xinitrc |
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<wicknix3> |
i forgot it autologs into user acct by default |
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<netbook> |
ahhh i should have picked up on that |
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<netbook> |
uh oh i just installed new version of dbus config file when installing byobu |
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<netbook> |
hehe fun times |
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<netbook> |
heh didn't know quake was on here |
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<netbook> |
Alright, renamed .xinitrc to .xinitrc.BAK and X started, but not the wm |
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<wicknix3> |
ahh. mv .xserverrc also |
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<netbook> |
kk |
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<netbook> |
had a quake interlude there for a bit |
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<wicknix3> |
heh |
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<wicknix3> |
it never ran for me. just segfaulted |
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<netbook> |
what class sd do you have? |
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<wicknix3> |
dont remember offhand. older 1 gig sandisk. |
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<netbook> |
might be why |
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<netbook> |
quake needs lots of sqp i would guess |
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<netbook> |
hmm x still started, mouse icon, no wm |
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<wicknix3> |
hmm. not sure where else to check then. those were the obvious ones to me |
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<netbook> |
i imagine you don't have x running on yours, as it is a web server |
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<wicknix3> |
actually i do have x running with just lxpanel and conky. nothing else. |
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<netbook> |
wait it might have worked |
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<netbook> |
rebooted again and it went to console... but i may have pressed ... + c (^c) |
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<netbook> |
and so booting a 3rd time... |
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<netbook> |
yea boots x, i will mess around with rc stuffs |
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<wicknix3> |
check in /etc also. i know he had a lot of scripts buried in there also |
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<netbook> |
uh wow check out the default SID in bash script /root/connect |
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<netbook> |
wtf |
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<pacifica> |
Thanks wicknix3 and netbook, |
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<netbook> |
pacifica what are you going to do? |
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<netbook> |
wicknix3 "startx" in .bash_profile |
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<wicknix3> |
heh |
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<Marex-N900> |
I have to say ... this N900 isnt all that bad :) |
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