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<valium1> |
so...i2zs is fun...sorta |
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<valium1> |
is there some special way of running binaries in iz2s that I should know of? |
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<valium1> |
I cant run anything I put on it, it tells me 'No such file or directory' |
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<valium1> |
~# ./myapp |
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<valium1> |
fails |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: where are you getting the binaries from? are you building them yourself? |
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<valium1> |
no, I didn't |
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<valium1> |
I'm trying to see if fceu will run or even give an error, from what I can tell it's statically linked. |
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<rkdavis> |
where are you getting it from ? debian binaries wqon't work |
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<rkdavis> |
and pretty much give you that error |
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<valium1> |
oh, well that certainly explains it then, I pulled it from one of the debian distros |
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<rkdavis> |
well that or a segfault mostly |
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<valium1> |
I just think it a bit odd that it fails to run at all |
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<valium1> |
like it's not even there |
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<rkdavis> |
yup that won't work, there are several reasons but mostly it's the arm version they are compiled for |
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<rkdavis> |
the zipit will run both versions of arm code but mixing like that doesn't work |
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<valium1> |
ah well, I really wish there was an easier way to do all this. I'm more of a PHP guy |
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<valium1> |
not too savvy with c |
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<rkdavis> |
and the error is because the /kernel/ doesn't recognise them as being valid executables and therefore can't find the file |
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<valium1> |
ah, now that I understand |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: you can build your own stuff for iz2s pretty easily, ray has put up a vm with all the dev stuff setup and most of the needed libs are ready in |
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<valium1> |
I just saw that today, the last time I looked, that wasn't up yet |
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<rkdavis> |
so on the whole it's just a matter of downlaoding the surce and doing a ./configure ; make |
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<valium1> |
I was set up to build and your bog standard Hello World! worked fine. |
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<valium1> |
but fceu require a different build environment |
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<tudisco> |
My zipit isn't stock.. has updated zipit firmware.. anyway to replace firmware with SD card? or am I screwed. :p |
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<valium1> |
tudisco, are you trying to go back to stock? |
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<tudisco> |
That would be great if possible... |
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<valium1> |
did you keep the backup of the original firmware? |
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<tudisco> |
no... I turned it on.. and it updated.. :( |
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<valium1> |
you mean from zipit itself |
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<tudisco> |
yes |
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<valium1> |
ohhh... thats something a bit different from what I was thinking |
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<valium1> |
you can't really help that |
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<valium1> |
is ther a specific reason you want to go back to the previous version? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: what does fceu need? X and GTK? |
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<tudisco> |
So no way to get linux on there now :( with out tearing it apart.. haha |
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<rkdavis> |
tudisco: if you kept the files from the autoflasher after you upgraded you can downgrade |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, erm, it was last month, I'll have to check on that |
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<rkdavis> |
tudisco: what do you mean upgraded? the zipit s/w upgraded or you have linux on it atm? |
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<valium1> |
I think that he's referring to the auto update that zipit pushes when you connect |
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<valium1> |
with the stock f/w that is |
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<rkdavis> |
then he can do anything then |
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<rkdavis> |
run iz2s or rootnexus or debian from aliosa27 or..... |
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<valium1> |
thats my thinking |
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<valium1> |
I rather like iz2s, infact, I've ssh'ed into it from my desktop |
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<valium1> |
but I'm going to attempt something rather crazy in a bit, but back on topic |
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<valium1> |
tudisco, you should still be able to run linux on your zipit |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i have 1 zipit still stock although i have one upgraded with both kernel and bootloader but 90% of the time i am using iz2s |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis: I actually flashed back to stock from jagsph's debian image, the stock IM client is the best one that I've seen for the platform |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yes i've done that about 150 times :) went back and forth a zillion times :) |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yup their app is pretty good considering although pity no xmpp |
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<valium1> |
there aren't really instructions for going back to stock, but a simple dd if of takes care of that |
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<valium1> |
xmpp? |
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<rkdavis> |
xmpp == jabber == gtalk (and a few others) |
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<valium1> |
ah, what really gets me is that you only get to pick from their list of radio stations, and you have to do it on the website |
| [08:26:39] |
<valium1> |
that was what made me buy it actually |
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<valium1> |
the internet radio |
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<valium1> |
fortunately, DI.fm Trance is on that list |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yes, there is nothing to stop them letting you use any streaming from anywhere technically BUT the reason for it is that the device was aimed at teens and thus needed to be parent approved and thus /safe/ |
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<rkdavis> |
alot of the restrictions are to keep it childsafe |
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<valium1> |
I just wish it could pick up multiple keypresses, and I totally get the kid safe thing |
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<rkdavis> |
what do you mean multiple keypresses? the /sticky/ shift alt thing? |
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<valium1> |
I don't text nearly as fast as some teens, but I end up with dropped letters all the time on the stock app |
| [08:28:46] |
<valium1> |
and the sticky bit...that thows me off |
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<rkdavis> |
are you are typing faster than the device :) |
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<valium1> |
I am indeed |
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<rkdavis> |
i must be slower than you then -- i have no probs with dropped chars |
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<rkdavis> |
but then again i'm not that fast mostly although do get some bursts of speed |
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<valium1> |
well, at 27 yrs. I'm right in that age group that remembers the pre-cell days, but still knows how to use one fairly well |
| [08:30:55] |
<valium1> |
but this netbook I'm on is starting to mess with my fingers a bit lool |
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<rkdavis> |
well add 20 and call me a luser then :) |
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<valium1> |
luser, havent heard that joke in a while |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: which version of iz2s are you using ? 2.04? |
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<valium1> |
yes, I am |
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<rkdavis> |
i still remember when tyranasaurus rex walked down the street |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: just checking because the 2.05beta isn't ready for primetime yet -- ray (and i) are still working on it |
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<rkdavis> |
although we now have some simple powewrmanagement and battery stuff in it |
| [08:33:34] |
<valium1> |
rkdavis: Oh fun, now gimme X and we're good :P |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i keep looking at adding X but it's sort of against my principles and there are ways to get gui stuff working |
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<valium1> |
on a serious note, the crazy project I'm going to try(please don't laugh, I've jumped down this rabbit hole before), is to get git(repo manager) running on the z2 for source code control |
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<valium1> |
for my prjects |
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<rkdavis> |
i just discovered that SDL now does rotation nativly so alot of stuff that eally wanted X for rataion doesn't need to be X any more |
| [08:35:28] |
<rkdavis> |
and directfb does have a GTK frontend just not looked into it recently |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: not laughing, you probably could, apt works on the debian rootfs's and svn and cvs..... so other than lack of ram you probably could do it on iz2s |
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<rkdavis> |
but the lack of ram will be a killer for large repos |
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<rkdavis> |
probably need a swap partition |
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<valium1> |
I actually did SVN on my iPhone for a while, I even had PHP and httpd running on it, but my build of MySQL just would not work |
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<rkdavis> |
and that is another thing that is sort of against my principles -- i hate swap on flash |
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<valium1> |
I have to agree with you there\, swap kills flash, it only has so many write cycles |
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<valium1> |
I cringe when I see people running persistant linux distros off of USB drives. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup it might take a while but.... i have about 10 sd cards that are now just cellphone fodder because of write cycles -- even without swap i normally kill an sd card every fortnight due to doing dev on the zipit |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: well i am guilty of running persistant linux on a few thumb drives but as i don't go out often or even see computers that aren't mine it's just because i can -- i never actually use them |
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<rkdavis> |
i like running bootable ms-dos and cp/m-86 on my thumb drives |
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<valium1> |
cp/m, wow |
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<valium1> |
and here I am looking for the z80 expansion for my commodore 64 |
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<valium1> |
I did manage to get the assember cart for it though |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: heh :) i hated commie 64's when i was growing up -- i was a z80 bigot but i have two commies here atm and one of my first professional programmign gigs was cp/m on the sx-64 |
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<valium1> |
well, since you used one, I suppose I could have said that it's actually an sx-64 |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: you'll probably want these too as you are using iz2s |
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<valium1> |
and it's all original, I even have the silly little cloth bag that you carried the power and kbd cables in |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, wnat what? |
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<rkdavis> |
tudisco: valium1russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/screenon |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/screenoff |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/kbledson |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/kbledsoff |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/lid |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/powerdaemon |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/battery |
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<rkdavis> |
the screen and kbleds things are self explainary |
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<rkdavis> |
the lid one returns 0 or 1 depending if the lid is open/closed |
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<valium1> |
ah, thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
powerdaemon turns off the screen and kbleds if the lid is closed |
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<rkdavis> |
battery returns a number if it is charging or full or broken |
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<rkdavis> |
5 means fill and on ac |
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<rkdavis> |
7 means battery is screwed |
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<rkdavis> |
the rest are just different charing methods that noone needs to know but me atm |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis: sily question, do you think I would be able to tunnel x11 over SSH to my desktop from one of the debian distros? |
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<rkdavis> |
we also have some rudimentary battery level stuff but it's sort of guesstimation and off by about +-10% or so and needs some extra stuff that isn't bundled in 2.04 yes |
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<rkdavis> |
s/yes/yet |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: software willing i can't see why not |
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<valium1> |
I tried it on the iPhone (also ARM) but I couldn't even get x11 running on it, unsuprisingly |
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<valium1> |
I just need something small that can handle a once or twice daily commit, and that has a shell |
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<rkdavis> |
well it's going to depend on the s/w but get X on the zipit and i can't see why not and the debian based ones shoudl be able to do it |
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<valium1> |
Thats, probably what I'll do, as long as I can SSH into it I should be fine, the repos for debian are reasonably large, and most things run okay. |
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<valium1> |
aptitude is a bit of a pain to use, slow but thats expected |
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<rkdavis> |
i've found quite a few things in the arm repositories that are broken or wrong endian but the major stuff is ok |
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<valium1> |
this is true, mostly I was looking into server software, lighttpd and the likes |
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<valium1> |
I had to stop my self from installing PHP. I remembered the 32meg limit |
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<valium1> |
hardware that is |
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<valium1> |
PHP + swap + flash = dead zipit in a week |
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<valium1> |
well, dead SD card |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<valium1> |
and given the compatibility rate of the cards that I've got on hand (1 of 6) I can't really put up with a failure at this point |
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<rkdavis> |
i seem to vagually a thing called microphp that is supposed to be embedded device friendly |
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<valium1> |
hmm... I wonder how friendly my code would be to it |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: what brand cards? i've found microsd in aan adapter are pretty good the weird thing is the miini sd cards i'm getting a 50% failure rate but they were part of a bulk buy |
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<rkdavis> |
found that they work better using a usb reader rather than my computers builtin one for writing too |
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<valium1> |
kensington |
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<valium1> |
sandisk seems to work out okay |
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<rkdavis> |
hmm kensington are pretty good on the whiole in the zipit but make sure the are sd not sdhc |
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<valium1> |
none of my 2 gig cards work |
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<rkdavis> |
yup i stick to sandisk myself apart form the builk noname ones i have |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: you obvioly have a a linux box so run hdparam against them and look at the speed |
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<valium1> |
I wonder what mode the zipit uses to access the sd card |
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<rkdavis> |
basically anything below about 20 is too slow and anything above 60 is too fast iirc |
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<valium1> |
I had to repurpose my linux box as a windows server temporarily :( |
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<tudisco> |
I have kingston sdhc :( |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i'm not really the guy to believe on this but iirc it's 1bit mode on the stock |
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<valium1> |
erm, thats SPI, isn't it? |
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<rkdavis> |
tudisco: someple have reported they work but i've never had any luck with sdhc cards |
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<rkdavis> |
but ppl have said that upto 8gig ones work but i've never had anything above 2gig work |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yes spi |
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<valium1> |
should only need 5 pins for that |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: if you ugrade your bootloader and thus use the mainline kernel .30+ i believe that stuff is different but as hardly anyone has upgraded their botloader and thus have the ability to run mainline .30_ there isn't much knowledge about it |
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<valium1> |
well, I'm just debating soldering on this full size SD card slot |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i took a look at the space inside because i was thinking to do that too but it won't quite fit in the place where the mini slot is |
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<rkdavis> |
you might be able to force it but i couldn't quite see enough space |
| [09:04:01] |
<valium1> |
I cant figure out how to open mine without seriously damaging it |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: they open pretty eaily |
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<rkdavis> |
the screws come out easily and then you need to force it a little but it doesn't damage really |
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<rkdavis> |
as long as you are careful |
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<valium1> |
I'm not sure that I got all the screws is the thing |
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<rkdavis> |
http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/?page_id=42 here is a site with pics of the insides |
| [09:05:44] |
<rkdavis> |
iirc it's just the 3 (4?) in the battery compartment but it's been a while |
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<valium1> |
and then side snaps it seems |
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<rkdavis> |
yup some little tabs so it's like opening most electronics, care and a couple of thin pieces of metal |
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<valium1> |
I use guitar picks |
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<rkdavis> |
ooooo hadn't thought of them, they'd probably work really well |
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<rkdavis> |
plastic no fewer scratches |
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<valium1> |
almost none, really |
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<rkdavis> |
tha's a really clever idea |
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<valium1> |
okie dokie |
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* |
rkdavis makes a note to pick a few up for his toolkit |
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<valium1> |
lets see here |
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<valium1> |
get multiple sizes |
| [09:09:38] |
<valium1> |
you never know when you need a bit thicer |
| [09:09:43] |
<valium1> |
thicker* |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: keep a very close eye when unsnapping there is one piece of plastic that might fly out depending how lame you are :) |
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<valium1> |
I caught it |
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<valium1> |
allright this is the newer board |
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<rkdavis> |
yup i haven't personally seen the patched one |
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<valium1> |
no wires |
| [09:13:27] |
<rkdavis> |
the site i linked also has the info on how to do the serial mod |
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<rkdavis> |
if you have that and aren't planning on upgrading the bootloader will mean you can always(with proviso's) unbrick it |
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<rkdavis> |
if you have a dremel or something similar you can make the serial mod mich nicer too -- a guy here called Foxx has dome it and brings it out to the side and used a 4pin header block |
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<valium1> |
speaking of 4 pin headers, any idea what the one on the headphone jack is for? |
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<rkdavis> |
that is the holy grail |
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<rkdavis> |
i've been talking to zipit about it and manufacturers in taiwan and noone can give me the connector part number |
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<rkdavis> |
it wa sin common use but nowhere to be found these days |
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<rkdavis> |
still lookign though |
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<valium1> |
erm, but what does it DO? |
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<rkdavis> |
the pins are known so you could make your own but that's a mickrey mouse(tm) solution |
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<rkdavis> |
it's the mic input |
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<rkdavis> |
and before you ask no the nintendo ds headset doesn't work :) missing 2 cinnections and they are wrong anyway |
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<valium1> |
oh, really? do we know if it actually works? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes it works if you have the connector |
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<valium1> |
I as thinking older ipod mic that had the 4 pid connector actually |
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<rkdavis> |
just noone has the connector |
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<rkdavis> |
a guy called GPSfan unsoldered it and replaced it with a mic and has recording working |
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<valium1> |
my 'w' finger appears to be broken |
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<rkdavis> |
morning SDuensin |
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<SDuensin> |
Greetings. |
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<valium1> |
I was about to do that, I have just noticed that there is a place where a mic could and should be |
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<valium1> |
morning SDuensin |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: there are pics iirc in the yahoo group for the zipit -- the s/w is defiantly there and iirc pics too |
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<valium1> |
any news on ASLA support? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yes it's working |
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<rkdavis> |
i thought it was in 2.04 but it's been a while since i looked -- might be an addon |
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<rkdavis> |
cmus is in iz2s so it shoudl be |
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<valium1> |
i'm thinking of possible VOIP capabilities |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yup there power is just there, no skype of course but a sip softphone shoudl work |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls |
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<valium1> |
ugh, don't get me started on skype, I use it, but just recently found out htat you cant have any kernel level debuggers running. |
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<valium1> |
huh.. 8 pins on micro, 11 on mini and 9 on full size SD |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, I think I know what the compatibility issue is |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<valium1> |
apparently SPI mode is completely optional when using microSD |
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<valium1> |
that is, manufacturers don't have to support it, unlike it's larger versions |
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<SDuensin> |
This is completely off-topic, but are either of you mencoder experts? |
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* |
SDuensin is good at being off-topic. |
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<rkdavis> |
SDuensin: i'm not but i know a man who is |
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<SDuensin> |
I got tired of explaining it... http://www.frostpowered.com/stuff/annoying-vob :-) |
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<rkdavis> |
he runs a community television site so uses mencoder and stuff allt he time |
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<SDuensin> |
Cool. |
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<SDuensin> |
This is for a good cause. GAMES! |
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<rkdavis> |
ok i'll ping him when he comes online -- he might be a while as his kids have a tree fell on the schools power line day |
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<SDuensin> |
DOH! |
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<SDuensin> |
That little script represents everything I know about mencoder. :-/ |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, so, while the soldering iron heats up, do you know where I can find a pinout for that mic jack? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: yes hold on a sec though |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm on the phone |
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<rkdavis> |
and need to get the schematic |
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<rkdavis> |
russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/HTJ-035-45ABG-1.pdf |
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<rkdavis> |
there is the mb side schematic |
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<rkdavis> |
http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/HTJ-035-45ABG-1.pdf |
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<rkdavis> |
even |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.sincityhackers.com/blog/ and that will help a bit too |
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<valium1> |
ah, the actual electrical connection, that is perfect, much thanks |
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<valium1> |
hrm..... that is odd |
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<valium1> |
after a battery disconnect, it won't poweron until you plug it in |
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<creazur> |
Hey, could anyone tell or check OpenDNS IP address for me? I'm at friends house and DNS server is down... |
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<rkdavis> |
morning GPSFan |
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<valium1> |
I can check, but if the DNS server is down, how did you connect to freenode? |
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<creazur> |
I have irssi running on schools server and I'm using Z2 |
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<valium1> |
208.69.38.170, according to the webpage |
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<SDuensin> |
valium1 - you don't memorize all your IPs? :-) |
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<valium1> |
I remember the ones that I use for my own servers, yes |
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<creazur> |
I recall something like 222.222 or such in the IP |
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<rkdavis> |
SDuensin: i used to know about 3000 x.25 nua's by memory but that was about 30 years and 10million braincells ago |
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<valium1> |
oh, for the actual nameserver? |
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<creazur> |
But I'll try that one, thx |
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<creazur> |
Yeah, that one :] |
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<SDuensin> |
rkdavis - There should be a book about you...oh wait. |
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<valium1> |
208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220 |
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<rkdavis> |
SDuensin: lol |
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* |
SDuensin is about ready to throw mencoder out the window |
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<creazur> |
OK, thx a lot! :] |
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<rkdavis> |
SDuensin: sorry my guy hasn't popped up online yet |
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<rkdavis> |
if he doesn't appear soon i am going to send out a search party |
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<rkdavis> |
i know they had no electricity for about 19 hours yeasterday but |
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<valium1> |
is there a book about rkdavis? am I missing something? |
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<SDuensin> |
NP. Just arguing with it here. Odd how it works great for most the disc and completely fails on the rest. |
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<SDuensin> |
Hehe |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i was mentioned in a few books in the early 90s |
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<rkdavis> |
a past life :) |
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<rkdavis> |
ls |
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<rkdavis> |
oopsy |
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<SDuensin> |
. |
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<SDuensin> |
.. |
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<SDuensin> |
wrong-window.txt |
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<valium1> |
this connector looks suspiciously like this http://pinouts.ru/connector/8_pin_4_pole_plug__4_pin_iPod_special_connector.shtml |
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<rkdavis> |
it does rather |
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<rkdavis> |
the s1r2r1 tip bit might be wrong but the other bit does |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: good find though, worth investigating |
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<valium1> |
ehh, looking at it, the spacing is a bit too wide |
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<rkdavis> |
wonder what the part number is |
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<rkdavis> |
as there maybe something in the family |
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<rkdavis> |
from what i heard the same connector was used it an aborted mp3 player so it means it wasn't a thing that only zipit used |
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<rkdavis> |
so somewhere there must be a part number but i spent ages on the phone to 3 companies in taiwan and nada |
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<valium1> |
I wonder if pin 7 does have to be pulled low |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: the person to ask about that is GPSFan if he's around |
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<rkdavis> |
he's the zipit guru around here -- well hiim, marex and sweetlilmre fi he ever finishes getting his house renovated :) |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh ugh ush |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh even |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, any idea how I can test the mic input on this thing? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: are you joined in the yahoo group? |
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<valium1> |
I don't really remember to tell you the truth, but probably not |
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<rkdavis> |
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/ |
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<rkdavis> |
join and in the files section there are some sound related stuff -- one is for record |
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<valium1> |
well, I've put together a connector that makes contact, seems to work okay, dunno if it works or not, I'm going to have to flash this thing (again) to find out |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
good luck |
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<valium1> |
not sure if you mean with the connector or flashing, but thats ither way =p |
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<valium1> |
thanks* |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
lol |
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<SDuensin> |
I'm rocketing into the future today! I get XP Service Pack 3! |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
lol |
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<valium1> |
nice |
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<valium1> |
now you can switch to AHCI mode on your sata drives |
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<SDuensin> |
Working for the government sucks. |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm testing graphic primatives -- arcs are slow less that 3000/sec |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
you keep calling them primitive... maybe its low self esteam |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity[A]: i haven't got sound yet because it's broken in my ver of iz2s but got prboom rotated correctly now in iz2s |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
yay |
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<rkdavis> |
in other words most of sdl and it's varous additional libs work |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
progress.. now on to quake 2 |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
having a few probs with SDL-widgeets but i'll work it out in the end |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity[A]: well is there a sdl based source ver anywhere? |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity[A]: you are debian based aren't you not iz2s? |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
yes |
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<rkdavis> |
8bit pixels are nearly 100000/sec |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
useing the rootnexus image |
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<rkdavis> |
sorry nearlyt 1000000/sec |
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<rkdavis> |
with alpha then it slows down to 800000 |
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<rkdavis> |
horizontal lnes are 350000 and 95000 with alpha |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity[A]: so you have rotation in X anyway -- just foundout the latest stable sdl does rotation nativly which is nice |
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<rkdavis> |
so alot of stuff that was sucky before now is pretty good |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
sweet |
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<rkdavis> |
wish i could workout why the SDL-widgets are segfaulting though |
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<rkdavis> |
it would be great for building a gui for iz2s |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
well keep hackign away =) |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
I have been doing the sxsw film festival for the last week |
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<rkdavis> |
i am actually supposed to be doing something else but got sidetracked |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
great stuff. saw Richarg Garott yesterday.. [lord british] |
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<rkdavis> |
and once prboom worked i really got side tracked |
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<rkdavis> |
cool |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
and hubble 3d.. incredible suff.. they took an imax 3d camra up and used it while repairing the hubble |
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<SDuensin> |
Doh! Lord B rocks. I *really* wanted to work for that guy. Until EA screwed it all up, that is. |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
well he got himself launced into orbit on a russian rocket a while back and the movie was all about that.. |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
but hes still working on games too.. |
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<SDuensin> |
Yea, I know. :-) |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
so after the premire of the movie LB came out with the director and the commander of the mission and had a q and a.. but i didnt get to ask my question.. |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
ah well |
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<SDuensin> |
When Ultima 9 was first shown at E3, I was in good with the EA rep I dealt with. I had a personal demo & hands-on time with the game, talked to some of the team, etc. But, of course, LB wasn't there that year! ARRRGH! |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
hes an intresting guy |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
i wanted to ask if hes done anything with john carmack given they are both local |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
and both heavy into comercial spaceflight |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
bla i need another moniter. one of mine just died |
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<rkdavis> |
the dorchester is the one right by the park but there are loads of hotels in the area and it's the posh area the 2000 pound site on the british monopoly board |
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<rkdavis> |
oopsy |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
wrong window? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
friend is going to london for work, they are putting him up in the connaught |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
ahhh |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
good or bad? |
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<rkdavis> |
very good -- posh place |
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<rkdavis> |
wouldn't let the likes of us in for a start |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
not as good as the dorchester but definatly up market |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
cool |
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<rkdavis> |
lets put it this way it ranges from about 700 bucks to 5000 bucks a night |
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<rkdavis> |
and it's a 100 bucks to park |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.the-connaught.co.uk/home.aspx |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
ouchy |
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<ogmious09> |
LUSER |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
? |
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<offy> |
I need help with the rootnexus zipit. It starts up but it doesn't load graphics |
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<offy> |
also shutdown wont work |
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<offy> |
window version of rootnexus wont load |
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<offy> |
help |
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<azend> |
all your fault :P |
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<offy> |
so, will you help? |
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<offy> |
i have a log |
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<offy> |
from xorg |
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<azend> |
sorry I don't know enough to help |
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<azend> |
I'm a noob :P |
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<offy> |
lol |
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<offy> |
k |
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<SB-Zipit> |
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<offy> |
rootnexus userland wont load graphics |
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<absamide> |
I believe that I have effectively bricked my Z2. I tried to use the autoflasher to apply the kernel aliosa27 had at http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/mark2/kernel/zImage-2.6.29-r3-zipit2.bin and it appeared to work fine, but the picture that comes up now is a little red box that says Smart-reg international inc. Nothing loads with or without the SD card now. I am guessing I used the wrong kernel or something. Is there a way to rec |
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<absamide> |
over from this without soldering in the serial at this point? |
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<offy> |
you flashed it wrong is my guess |
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<rkdavis> |
absamide: you used the wrong kernel |
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<rkdavis> |
that one isn't for public use |
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<absamide> |
That is what I figured. Any recovery without serial at this point or do I need to hunt down my iron? |
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<rkdavis> |
hunt down the iron but there might be a way |
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<rkdavis> |
let me check something and might be able to do it without the serial mod |
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<absamide> |
Thanks. |
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<rkdavis> |
how that version ended up there i dunno, it shoudl have been in a different dir |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on a sec just realised it's a zimage need to unpack it |
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<valium1> |
HHow that company name ended there, thats got me curious |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: aliosa made a kernel for a company that is using the zipit for their own stuff |
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<absamide> |
It was certainly my first clue that something wasn't quite right. |
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<rkdavis> |
it's just a different boot logo |
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<valium1> |
hey, I want a custom bootlogo too :( |
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<rkdavis> |
well you'll need a new kernel and then stock will be a pita |
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<rkdavis> |
absamide: we just need to workout the kernel params and setup the rootfs like that , i think if you try the early oe rootfs they might be setup right |
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<rkdavis> |
but let em see if i can workout what the kernel params are |
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<absamide> |
Stepping away for a few for dinner, but back shortly. Thanks rkdavis. |
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<rkdavis> |
ls |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, is aliosa27 working on getting android on the zipit? |
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<valium1> |
also, I dont know what files are in your directory, sorry. |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: he did look at it for a while i think but the zipit reallty doesn't have enough ram |
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<rkdavis> |
buggered if i know how he managed to get that kernel into that dir though |
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<rkdavis> |
it was up a few levels before but then again ppl shouldn't be digging in his directories anyway :) |
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<rkdavis> |
you never know what will jump up and bite ya :) |
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<rkdavis> |
ok canna extract the kernel params from it but i suspect it'll be close to what he did first of all so probably the same layout as the original oe release he did |
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<absamide> |
What do I need to download or whatever to get his original layout? |
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<absamide> |
I can't find any of aliosa27's original layouts anymore. Did he remove them from his site? |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls |
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<rkdavis> |
http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/zipit2-audio+x+mouse.gz |
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<rkdavis> |
try using that or one of the early debian ones (the tarball ver not the img ver |
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