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[02:38:04] <Malwyn> Malwyn is a common name?
[02:38:09] <Malwyn> I'm the only Malwyn I know!
[02:39:24] <Mcavity> yup its odd name
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[14:33:19] <Zachzor> Can I get some help with installing Rootnexus's zipit userland?
[14:34:10] <Zachzor> According to his instructions found here
[14:34:11] <Zachzor> http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/
[14:34:27] <Zachzor> If I wanted to use a 8 GB SD I'd go about those steps
[14:34:38] <Zachzor> but I have done them, and my zipit won't boot from it
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[15:12:13] <offy> Could someone help me with the rootnexus zipit userland
[15:13:07] <offy> I did bzip2 -d filename.bz2. I got a .out file. But I can't mount it
[15:13:13] <offy> And I can't find no .img file
[15:28:06] <Mcavity> hi
[15:28:16] <Mcavity> soory been a bit quiet for a while
[15:28:29] <offy> Hi
[15:28:47] <offy> Can you help me install a userland on zipit?
[15:29:01] <Mcavity> i think the main guys you want to talk with are out but i have some old stuff from a previous userland that may help.. if i can find it..
[15:29:17] <offy> I just need the image
[15:29:21] <offy> I flashed the zipit
[15:29:25] <Mcavity> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/openzipit/index.php?title=Mcavity%27s_Notes
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[15:29:49] <Mcavity> oh umm i just extract the files stright onto the flash.. but make sure you have a swap partion
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[15:30:52] <Mcavity> try this
[15:30:53] <Mcavity> http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/
[15:31:12] <offy> I've been trying that way
[15:31:16] <offy> but I don't have an image
[15:31:16] <Mcavity> i have to run. but hope that helps. ill be back in a few hours
[15:31:22] <offy> k thanks
[15:31:55] <Mcavity> the link i just gave you should have the files for the image
[15:32:12] <offy> ok thanks
[15:32:27] <Mcavity> good luck. its a fun toy =)
[15:33:09] <offy> ty
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[16:39:31] <offy> Help please
[16:46:52] <offy> Need help after the flash to get the zipit to boot into linux
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[17:07:06] <azend> Hello
[17:07:16] <azend> may I asj a stupid question?
[17:07:19] <azend> ask
[17:11:22] <aliosa27> sure
[17:13:28] <rkdavis> we are good at answering stuid questions. it's the intelligent ones we have problems with
[17:16:44] <azend> :P
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[17:17:05] <azend> I'm just wondering how you turn down screen brightness
[17:17:31] <azend> because /proc/acpi/ isn't there
[17:17:57] <azend> are there no drivers set up?
[17:19:04] <aliosa27> its in sysfs
[17:19:12] <aliosa27> and you can echoa a value to it
[17:19:15] <aliosa27> echo
[17:19:21] <aliosa27> if your doing it from bash or whatever
[17:20:04] <azend> oh ok
[17:20:04] <azend> yeah I am
[17:20:05] <azend> I'm thinking of making a dashboard type thing like xbmc or dsorganize but I'm not really sure how to set it up
[17:20:41] <azend> rather then a desktop environment
[17:20:44] <azend> but it will still have windows
[17:33:39] <offy> I can't get my zipit to boot
[17:34:06] <Limp_Trizkit> offy: what does it do?
[17:34:23] <offy> It shows the new bootloader from flash, but nothing loads
[17:34:37] <Limp_Trizkit> your sd card is likely prepared incorrectly then
[17:34:37] <offy> I followed atleast 3 tutorials
[17:34:59] <Limp_Trizkit> you see the weasel with the penguin beak?
[17:35:06] <offy> yes
[17:35:13] <offy> I am following http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/
[17:35:15] <Limp_Trizkit> how long do you wait?
[17:35:21] <offy> i waited 5 mins
[17:35:37] <Limp_Trizkit> yeah
[17:35:37] <offy> 2 of the times I had hdd activity. The other time i didn't
[17:35:43] <Limp_Trizkit> try rebuilding your sd card again then
[17:35:58] <offy> Should I use ext2 or 3
[17:36:02] <offy> tutorials vary
[17:36:13] <Limp_Trizkit> i use 3 and i'm fine
[17:36:19] <Limp_Trizkit> iirc
[17:37:04] <offy> where is the img?
[17:37:12] <offy> I don't know if I'm using the right thing
[17:37:15] <offy> since it wont mount
[17:37:27] <Limp_Trizkit> did you get the .rar files?
[17:37:41] <offy> i got the tar.bz2
[17:37:51] <offy> its a 8gb sd
[17:37:54] <Limp_Trizkit> THIS IS NOT AN IMAGE FILE.
[17:37:54] <Limp_Trizkit> THIS IS FOR LINUX USERS ONLY.
[17:38:00] <Limp_Trizkit> that's written right below it
[17:38:00] <offy> i'm in linux
[17:38:33] <Limp_Trizkit> oh, it's an 8gb minisd?
[17:38:47] <Limp_Trizkit> i think that's the problem
[17:38:54] <Limp_Trizkit> iirc it's not an sdhc device
[17:39:01] <Limp_Trizkit> and it has issues with anything >2gb
[17:39:17] <Limp_Trizkit> aliosa27 or someone else would know more definitively than i would
[17:39:38] <offy> so a 2gb should work?
[17:39:48] <azend> what are the chances of aomeone making it sdhc compatible
[17:39:57] <azend> is it hardware or software?
[17:40:14] <offy> ?
[17:40:19] <Limp_Trizkit> i'm not the best person to answer that
[17:40:49] <azend> oh ok
[17:40:51] <aliosa27> the tar bz is the rootfs files "zipped" up so to say....so you can untar them to a card in linux
[17:40:52] <Limp_Trizkit> but a tiny part of me wants to say hardware
[17:41:07] <Limp_Trizkit> aliosa27, i meant about the 8gb minisd
[17:41:10] <aliosa27> 8 gig cards work ok in zipits
[17:41:21] <aliosa27> i have a transcend
[17:41:28] <Limp_Trizkit> so it's just prepped incorrectly then or a buggered card?
[17:41:38] <azend> don't you need to partition it to 2 or 1 gb tho?
[17:42:18] <Limp_Trizkit> if it's fine with the card, i don't see why it would have a problem with >2gb partitions azend
[17:42:53] <aliosa27> i have never played with rootnexus
[17:43:08] <azend> personally I gave up on the tarball and went for the rars
[17:43:09] <aliosa27> so i dont know how its supposed to be setup(sd wize)
[17:43:10] <Limp_Trizkit> im just saying in theory
[17:43:14] <azend> they worked off the bat
[17:43:35] <Limp_Trizkit> i extracted the fs from the rars when i set it up
[17:43:40] <Limp_Trizkit> because the rars are for a 1gb image
[17:43:43] <Limp_Trizkit> and i have a 2gb card
[17:43:49] <aliosa27> thats fine
[17:44:01] <Limp_Trizkit> i think my card is all - 32mb = ext3, 32mb ext3
[17:44:05] <Limp_Trizkit> err 32mb swap
[17:44:06] <aliosa27> if its a rar with an image and you write it to a 2 gig card
[17:44:12] <aliosa27> you will have 1 gig of free space
[17:44:13] <Limp_Trizkit> i know
[17:44:19] <aliosa27> you can format and map it in linux
[17:44:24] <Limp_Trizkit> i was just consulting to fix offy's problem
[17:44:28] <aliosa27> ooo
[17:44:37] <Limp_Trizkit> preaching to the choir ;)
[17:44:40] <offy> I'm confused.
[17:44:41] <aliosa27> sorry
[17:44:45] <Limp_Trizkit> no worries
[17:44:55] <offy> I'm going to try something other than rootnexus
[17:45:03] <aliosa27> so offy...what exactly are you trying to do(one more time)
[17:45:19] <offy> get it to boot
[17:45:24] <offy> its already flashed
[17:46:13] <azend> someone should make the bios poweroff the zipit if you are holding the power button
[17:46:25] <azend> so you don't have to wait for a boot
[17:46:37] <offy> or press the pinhole button
[17:46:38] <offy> on side
[17:46:54] <offy> thats what I have to do now, since it wont boot
[17:47:13] <azend> I used to brick mine on a regular basis
[17:47:26] <azend> now I don't for some reason
[17:47:31] <Limp_Trizkit> lol
[17:48:02] <azend> is there a fix to keep my wireless connection
[17:48:16] <offy> does it expire?
[17:48:21] <azend> it keeps dieing if I don't run packets through it
[17:48:26] <azend> yeah
[17:48:42] <offy> when you assign an ip you can set it not to expire
[17:48:44] <offy> I forgot how
[17:48:46] <offy> let me man
[17:49:16] <offy> hm, don't see anything
[17:49:52] <azend> it seems to expire way before the expiry time tho
[17:50:24] <offy> I don't know then
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[17:51:46] <offy> so I am following http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/openzipit/index.php?title=Mcavity%27s_Notes now
[17:52:01] <offy> when I extract the gz i get a tar. Inside the tar is a ./
[17:52:20] <offy> but when I extract the ./ out i get errors on /dev/* files
[17:55:39] <offy> tar: ./dev/mem: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted
[17:55:47] <offy> for everything in DEV I get that
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[18:02:58] <azend> did you do it as #?
[18:03:25] <offy> what?
[18:03:52] <azend> root
[18:03:59] <offy> oh yea
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[18:13:40] <offy> how long does boot usually take?
[18:14:19] <Limp_Trizkit> should see the weasel for ~1m
[18:14:21] <Limp_Trizkit> at most
[18:14:30] <Limp_Trizkit> i can time mine if you want :P
[18:14:42] <Mcavity> you maay want more than 32 megs for swap..
[18:14:54] <Limp_Trizkit> haha
[18:14:55] <Limp_Trizkit> i know
[18:15:06] <offy> it think my swap is 256
[18:15:08] <offy> mb
[18:15:12] <Limp_Trizkit> it might be 64
[18:15:13] <Limp_Trizkit> i forget
[18:15:26] <Mcavity> i use 256.. though that may be overkill
[18:15:41] <offy> I get drive activity, but nothing happens
[18:15:53] <Mcavity> the first bootup takes a while.. something to do withthe filesystem.. after that it boots much faster
[18:16:07] <offy> how long should I wait?
[18:16:10] <offy> the first time
[18:16:42] <Mcavity> well give it 5-10 min. if it hasent booted by then it wont..
[18:16:51] <offy> ok
[18:17:12] <offy> YES
[18:17:14] <offy> it worked that time
[18:17:17] <offy> lol
[18:17:31] <offy> time to find login info
[18:17:35] <Mcavity> see.. just neede me to come back and push a button.. hehe
[18:17:43] <offy> lol
[18:17:52] <offy> whats the default for the audio+x+mouse
[18:18:09] <Mcavity> what image you useing right now?
[18:18:25] <offy> the zipit2-aduio+x+audio
[18:18:26] <offy> or something
[18:18:27] <offy> mouse
[18:18:40] <offy> the one you posted on http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/openzipit/index.php?title=Mcavity%27s_Notes
[18:18:40] <Mcavity> aliosa27 or rootnexus?
[18:18:49] <offy> aliosa27
[18:18:50] <Mcavity> ahh think thats aliosa27
[18:19:21] <offy> i'm in
[18:19:24] <offy> root with no pw
[18:19:33] <Mcavity> havent used that in a while.. heh. but option key togels the mouse
[18:20:35] <offy> thanks everyone
[18:20:59] <Mcavity> glad to help..
[18:21:14] <Mcavity> man i need sleep
[18:21:20] <Mcavity> got work in 3 hours
[18:21:24] <Mcavity> havent slept
[18:22:17] <offy> that sucks
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[18:24:33] <Aliens> hello
[18:25:55] <Mcavity[A]> just missed me
[18:26:03] <Mcavity[A]> < its sleep time
[18:27:40] <Aliens> hah
[18:27:50] <Aliens> sleep is for pansies
[18:28:53] <azend> exactly right Aliens :D
[18:29:18] <Aliens> so is anyone here really involved with hardware hacks for the z2?
[18:30:30] <azend> I wanted to add gps through the expansion port but I don't know how
[18:32:06] <Aliens> yeah i've been lookin at adding a blackberry scrollball from sparkfun to it, and while browsing sparkfun, i noticed something, has anyone tried using one of their ftdi 3.3v usb boards for serial with the z2? it seems a lot easier then using the max 3233e or w/e the chip is
[18:32:42] <azend> nope
[18:33:05] <Aliens> im gonna grab one and give it a roll, if it works, it'
[18:33:08] <Aliens> it'd be pretty nice
[18:33:09] <azend> only ftdi chip I have is in my arduino and I'm not unsoldering it
[18:33:26] <azend> the pins are so gosh darn tiny
[18:33:47] <Aliens> yeah
[18:34:11] <Aliens> same reason i dont like the idea of using the max chip, they seem to have discontinued the dip packages
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