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<Mcavity> |
isnt there a setfont command? |
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<Gnuet> |
the performance of quake is soo good :D |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<aliosa27> |
morn |
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<aliosa27> |
im like 79 percent away from your covited oe release |
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<aliosa27> |
last night was fun |
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<aliosa27> |
not really |
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<rkdavis> |
http://gizmodo.com/5478032/dont-bring-laptops-to-class-or-else wtf!!! :) |
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<muriani> |
hahah |
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<rkdavis> |
pity we didn't get to see the pieces though |
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<rkdavis> |
and pity he didn't confiscate the laptop from a student |
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<Gnuet> |
Bet he got one bluescreen too many :D |
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<Guerilla> |
hi guys! |
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<Gnuet> |
lo there finland! |
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<Guerilla> |
i was wondering if you could help me with my problem? |
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<Gnuet> |
we'll try. |
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<Guerilla> |
me and my friends just ordered 4 zipit z2:s from america and yesterday we flashed the firmware with AutoFlasher-r2 and with zImage-zipit2.bin |
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<Gnuet> |
och? |
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<Guerilla> |
everything went fine with all devices they boot up to loading screen with animal? |
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<Gnuet> |
you've written the rootfs to a minisd-card? |
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<Guerilla> |
yes |
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<Guerilla> |
dd with rootnexus 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd.tar.bz2 |
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<Guerilla> |
everything boots fine |
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<Gnuet> |
the bootup shouldn't take long |
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<rkdavis> |
well first boot willtake a while |
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<rkdavis> |
but subsiquent ones shouldn't |
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<Guerilla> |
the problem is that wireless and audio doesnt work |
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<rkdavis> |
did you copy the drivers to the sd card? |
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<Gnuet> |
do you need the drivers for the rootnexus one? |
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<rkdavis> |
and did you check the mixewr settings for sound? |
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<Guerilla> |
the wireless drivers are already in the 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd.tar.bz2 |
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<Gnuet> |
ah yeah, that's what i thought ^^ |
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<rkdavis> |
i think jagsph took them out because of legal reasons but they might still nbe in there |
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<rkdavis> |
ok do you have a terminal window open? |
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<Guerilla> |
i can log to my network without security but when i run dhclient eth0 it just loops without getting IP |
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<Guerilla> |
wait i just boot |
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<Gnuet> |
w-wait. i reboot. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok i don't use rootnexus but lets work through logically |
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<Gnuet> |
rootnexus' image is just plug and play. |
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<rkdavis> |
sounds like its nothing too serious just a setting somewhere |
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<Guerilla> |
the strange thing is that rootnexus image uses eth1 and it should be eth0 |
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<Gnuet> |
eth1 for me 3. |
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<Guerilla> |
with eth0 i can connect via terminal |
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<Guerilla> |
k, terminal open |
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<Guerilla> |
mixewr = command not found |
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<rkdavis> |
ok do a dmesg |
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<rkdavis> |
js=ust check that there is nothing at the end that is an error |
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<rkdavis> |
shoudl be ok but better to make sure |
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<Guerilla> |
livertas: PREP_CMD: command 0x00a3 failed: 2 |
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<rkdavis> |
and you can ssh/putty into the zipit from a desktop ? |
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<Guerilla> |
no bcz i cant get ip from my router |
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<rkdavis> |
not sure how you can if dbclient fails |
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<Guerilla> |
dhcp not working |
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<rkdavis> |
that's what i thought |
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<rkdavis> |
so what error do you get if you dhclient eth1 ? |
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<Guerilla> |
i will write it from step to step |
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<Guerilla> |
iwlist eth0 scanning shows networks |
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<rkdavis> |
when you said you get in a terminal i was wondering how because no ip no comms |
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<rkdavis> |
ok you probably have the wpa_supplicant.conf incorrect |
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<rkdavis> |
what happens if you do iwconfig eth0 essid [thessid] ? |
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<Guerilla> |
it connects, and i see the bar in network manager with full strength |
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<Guerilla> |
but dhclient eth0 fails |
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<rkdavis> |
nope ignore all the gui rubbish do this from the terminal window |
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<Guerilla> |
wait, i have to disconnect for a bit |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Guerilla> |
will check my router |
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<rkdavis> |
it's probably the wpa_supplicant.conf settings or that wpa_supplicant is faling somehow |
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<rkdavis> |
that's why is said try iwconfig fromt he command line so we can see what it says rather than having it hidden by the gui |
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<rkdavis> |
we could do wpa_supplicant too but lets start at first principles |
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<Guerilla1> |
k, back |
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<rkdavis> |
k |
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<Guerilla1> |
no encryption key now with my network |
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<rkdavis> |
ok lets start at first principles then |
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<rkdavis> |
from a terminal window type |
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<Guerilla1> |
so will try iwconfig eth0 essid MYSID key off |
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<rkdavis> |
iwconfig eth0 essid {yourssid} |
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<Guerilla1> |
sure |
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<rkdavis> |
and i wouldn't do the key off bit |
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<rkdavis> |
our iwconfig is a bit flakey |
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<rkdavis> |
on key stuff |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<rkdavis> |
once iwconfig has done type iwconfig again and see if it associated |
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<Guerilla1> |
so "iwconfig eth0 essid MYSID" |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<Guerilla1> |
bar in desktop is full again |
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<rkdavis> |
ok ignore that bar |
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<rkdavis> |
what does iwconfig say? |
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<Guerilla1> |
lo: no wireless, eth0: my essid after that |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
so it associated |
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<Guerilla1> |
link quality 90/100 |
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<Guerilla1> |
yep |
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<rkdavis> |
now do the dhclient eth0 |
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<rkdavis> |
and lets see what it says |
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<Guerilla1> |
wtf, it connected?! |
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<Guerilla1> |
now i got ip |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Guerilla1> |
i will test ping |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that is seems to be ok so now lets look at the wpa_supplicant.conf |
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<Guerilla1> |
k, how to open it? |
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<Guerilla1> |
where is that file? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok try /mnt/sd0/etc |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm not sure where it is in rootnexus unfortunatly |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<rkdavis> |
so oyu'll have to check various etc dirs |
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<Guerilla1> |
found it |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
it's not in /etc is it |
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<Guerilla1> |
it is |
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<rkdavis> |
it will be but we need where it is on the sdcard |
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<Guerilla1> |
hmm, let me check |
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<rkdavis> |
as the /etc one gets overwritten on each reboot |
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<Guerilla1> |
i will check the /mnt |
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<rkdavis> |
but we can at least look at it in /etc |
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<Guerilla1> |
nothing in /mnt/ ... |
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<Guerilla1> |
i think that the one in /etc is the final |
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<rkdavis> |
ok for the time being lets look at the one in /etc |
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<Guerilla1> |
what should i see there? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes it might be generated on the fly so lets look at it anyway |
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<rkdavis> |
we can check later on where it is between boots |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<rkdavis> |
in the conf file you will see 1 or more sets of network={ } sections |
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<Guerilla1> |
i see them |
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<rkdavis> |
ok what does the first one say? |
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<Guerilla1> |
network={ |
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<Guerilla1> |
ssid="work network" |
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<Guerilla1> |
scan_ssid=1 |
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<Guerilla1> |
key_mgnt=wpa_psk |
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<Guerilla1> |
psk="password" |
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<Guerilla1> |
} |
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<Guerilla1> |
1st line is "crtl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant" |
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<Guerilla1> |
2nd is "crtl_interface_group=0" |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that looks ok other than you need to fill in the ssid etc |
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<Guerilla1> |
will WPA-PSK work with my wpa2 network? |
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<Gnuet> |
nope, only if you set it to WPA and WPA2. |
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<Gnuet> |
most routers support that. |
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<Guerilla1> |
i will anyway create 2 wireless networks for my linkstation dd-wrt router. 1 for my laptop and 1 with lower security, but with restricted access for my z2 |
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<Guerilla1> |
so key_mgmt=WPA-PSK2? |
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<Gnuet> |
dunno. |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<Guerilla1> |
now it works with not encrypted wifi and i can test it later with more encryption :D |
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<Guerilla1> |
thx for the help with this one! |
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<Guerilla1> |
another thing is the sound |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that i suspect is the mixer settings |
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<rkdavis> |
i think he uses alsamixer so open that up and check that the speakers aren't muted |
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<Guerilla1> |
audio mixer open -> opening mixer: no such file or directory |
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<rkdavis> |
ok then it mist be the drivers |
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<Guerilla1> |
alsamixer -> cannot open mixer: no such file or directory |
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<rkdavis> |
ok i suspect the drivers aren't loaded -- from a term window do lsmod |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<Guerilla1> |
i see a list |
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<rkdavis> |
ok look to see if you see any that say something alsa or alsa something and any that say sound |
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<Guerilla1> |
no alsa |
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<rkdavis> |
although if this isn't it you'll have to wait until someone who uses rootnexus arrives as i don't use it so have no real idea how it does things but i can at least do the simple stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that could be it then |
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<rkdavis> |
goto /lib/modules |
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<rkdavis> |
and somewhere under there is probably a list of modules |
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<rkdavis> |
some shoudl say sound or alsa |
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<Guerilla1> |
just folders /2.6.29 and /2.6.29.4 there |
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<rkdavis> |
yup should be under there somewhere |
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<Guerilla1> |
in /2.6.29 is list of modules.*something* but no alsa |
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<Guerilla1> |
same in 2.6.29.4 |
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<rkdavis> |
ok dunno which ones you are looking for -- i'd wait until a rootnexus person comes in they shoudl be able to help |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<Guerilla1> |
damn this rootnexus is broken |
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<Guerilla1> |
swap not working, no alsa, wireless configured wrong, every sh behind root, crashing during use and eats 29mb/30mb of ram... |
| [11:34:02] |
<Guerilla1> |
where can i get better debian release? |
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<Guerilla1> |
or should i make my own? |
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<Guerilla1> |
I have played around with my buffalo linkstation debian and learned a bit about bootstrapping and custom kernels but building from a scratch is pretty hard |
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<dTal> |
I've got what was originally a rootnexus install, anything I can do? |
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<Guerilla1> |
hi |
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<Guerilla1> |
dtal |
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<Guerilla1> |
i'm having problems with rootnexus |
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<rkdavis> |
ok dTal take it away :) |
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<Guerilla1> |
rkdavis thanks alot for your help ^^ |
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<Gnuet> |
success! i'm watching streamed tv from my DreamBox on the zipit, sooooooo slow :D |
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<dTal> |
Well, I didn't make rootnexus, but I can check of various similarities and differences |
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<dTal> |
what doesn't work? |
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<rkdavis> |
Guerilla1: np sorry i wasn't any more help |
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<Guerilla1> |
dtal -> i have problems with alsa not loading, propably not even installed. swap not working and desktop eating 29/30 mb |
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<dTal> |
Did you install by unpacking the tarball to the SD, or did you unpack to the HD and then copy, or did you use an image? |
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<Guerilla1> |
also wifi scripts configured for eth1 but mine works as eth0 |
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<dTal> |
Because that's too many problems at once |
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<Guerilla1> |
i ran DD 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd.tar.bz2 from HDD to SD card |
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<Guerilla1> |
it created root ext3 and swap |
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<dTal> |
You dd'd the bz2 straight to the card without unpacking it? |
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<Guerilla1> |
ah, nope |
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<Guerilla1> |
1gb.rc1-pre2.dd i mean |
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<dTal> |
Okay, and that's one file. |
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<Guerilla1> |
srry my mistake |
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<dTal> |
Just a sec |
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<Guerilla1> |
so i have 1 ext3 drive and 1 swap |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<dTal> |
There's not much than can go wrong with a direct dd like that, and I would expect any error to prevent it from booting at all |
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<Guerilla1> |
yep |
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<dTal> |
So I suspect, at the risk of offending the creator of the image, that something's wrong with that image. |
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<Gnuet> |
faulty sdcard? |
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<dTal> |
Unlikely... |
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<Gnuet> |
im using the same image, worked perfectly. |
| [11:47:46] |
<dTal> |
It sounds like possibly permissions were screwed up. |
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<Guerilla1> |
it wouldnt boot up so nicely |
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<Gnuet> |
what os did you dd in? |
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<Guerilla1> |
ubuntu 9.04 |
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<dTal> |
Gnuet: do an md5 of your image |
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<Guerilla1> |
permission were strange |
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<dTal> |
Guerilla1: do the same |
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<Guerilla1> |
but i gave user root access |
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<Gnuet> |
dTal: lost it :D |
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<dTal> |
Aw. Anyone else got an md5 of that image? |
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<Gnuet> |
i used os x to dd for example. |
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<Guerilla1> |
every run command, even iwconfig were behind root user |
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<dTal> |
Really, there ought to be one on the site. This is the second time in 3 days it would have been helpful. |
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<Guerilla1> |
i think that the image is working fine |
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<Guerilla1> |
it booted nicely with 4 z2:s |
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<dTal> |
dmesg tell you anything? |
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<Guerilla1> |
but same problems with swap, wifi, alsa not loading and permissions with everyone of them |
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<Guerilla1> |
nope |
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<Guerilla1> |
hmm, libetas_spi: probe of spi1.0 failed with error -5 |
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<Guerilla1> |
any clue? |
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<Guerilla1> |
libertas: can't read bus mode register before that line |
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<dTal> |
Hm. Something not right at all but no idea what. |
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<Guerilla1> |
k |
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<dTal> |
What does swapon do? |
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<Guerilla1> |
swapon prints usage help |
| [11:55:16] |
<Guerilla1> |
what parameters should i use? |
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<dTal> |
Oh right, of course. |
| [11:56:00] |
<Guerilla1> |
i2c_algo_bit: unknown symbol i2c_add_numbered_adapter |
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<dTal> |
swapon /dev/mmcblk0p2 |
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<Guerilla1> |
then lost of unknown symbol with i2c_algo_bit and snd_soc_wm8750 |
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<dTal> |
Have you got the exact dd command you used still in your command history? |
| [11:58:14] |
<Guerilla1> |
"swapon /dev/mmcblk0p2" -> cannot stat, no such file or directory |
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<Guerilla1> |
sudo dd if=/media/Final/zimage/1gb.rc1-pre2.dd of=/dev/sdd |
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<Guerilla1> |
this was my dd command |
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<dTal> |
Seems fine |
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<Guerilla1> |
2 gb transcend microsd card with minisd adaper 10 € |
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<dTal> |
what does 'ls /dev/mmc*' give you on the zipit? |
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<dTal> |
You said you had the swap partition - that should be it |
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<dTal> |
mmcblk0p2 that is |
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<dTal> |
mmcblk0p1 being your ext3 |
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<Guerilla1> |
'ls /dev/mmc*' -> no such file or directory |
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<dTal> |
okay we are in weirdville |
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<Guerilla1> |
no /mmc in /dev |
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<dTal> |
I am highly suspicious your copy of the image is corrupted somehow, if other people have no problems |
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<Guerilla1> |
it might be the case |
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<dTal> |
You copied it fine, the image is said to be fine - the download is the weak link |
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<Guerilla1> |
i will download the image again and test the md5 |
| [12:04:25] |
<dTal> |
Good idea, it's unlikely to get corrupted the same way twice |
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<dTal> |
I mean, it isn't picking up any of the builtin hardware, not even the sd controller |
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<dTal> |
it's amazing it boots at all. |
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<Guerilla1> |
i think so too :) |
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<Guerilla1> |
flashing went fine with same sd card so i think the fault is not with the card |
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<dTal> |
However, X taking up enourmous amounts of ram is a feature, not a bug :-p |
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<Guerilla1> |
we have 4 z2:s with 4 identical cards |
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<Guerilla1> |
i just feel bar when i run top and it shows 1mb free ram... |
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<Guerilla1> |
can i install xfree instead of x11? |
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<dTal> |
a whole megabyte? such luxury |
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<dTal> |
It's debian, you can install whatever |
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<Guerilla1> |
it should be lighter with memory usage than x11 |
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<dTal> |
but I don't know about X, I don't use it |
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<Guerilla1> |
true that :D |
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<muriani> |
you could install a directfb or qt-framebuffer gui |
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<muriani> |
or develop your own |
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<dTal> |
muriani: that's the plan |
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<dTal> |
A pretty slick and lightweight gui could be mad on this |
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<muriani> |
There's been opie and gpe |
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<dTal> |
*made |
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<muriani> |
both have been in use for ages, opie's a bit older |
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<dTal> |
I don't like either of those really, they aren't optimised for a device like a zipit |
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<Guerilla1> |
do anyone here have any custom desktop for z2? |
| [12:10:44] |
<dTal> |
no touchscreen for a start |
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<Guerilla1> |
*does |
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<muriani> |
The pest kind of gui for something like this would be a paged-style UI, most likely |
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<muriani> |
there was a project porting dwm with a sane configuration for the device |
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<muriani> |
I forget who was working on it |
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<dTal> |
I have this notion for an interface, wouldn't be too hard |
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<dTal> |
directfb backend, with fullscreen window management |
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<dTal> |
main screen an icon desktop with installed apps |
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<dTal> |
written in GTK |
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<dTal> |
all system apps in GTK as well |
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<dTal> |
and games and movies can render directly to a directfb surface |
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<dTal> |
and the whole thing keyboard controlled, none of this mouse emulation nonsense |
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<dTal> |
incidentally, I mentioned this earlier but no one was listening |
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<dTal> |
I think moosic would be a good music player for the zipit |
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<dTal> |
very ram efficient |
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<Guerilla1> |
could mocp woth too? |
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<Guerilla1> |
*work |
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<muriani> |
it could, I'm sure |
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<muriani> |
moosic, eh? |
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<muriani> |
I'll have to look into that for my laptop too |
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<Guerilla1> |
Dtal -> thx for the help! |
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<dTal> |
did it work? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
My 2 cents, then I got to go. I've never had a problem with PRE2. I created Ext3 and swap on SD with GParted, untarred (as root) PRE2 to the Ext3. Works fine with the Aliosa flashed ZipIt. Used the WiFi icon tools (8) to edit wpa_supplicant.conf . I have to comment out the two "ctrl_interface.." environment variables. Plug in my SSID and password. WEP works with (2-Connect), not tried open. WPA1 doesn't work with wpa_supplicant (for me at least), |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
set router to wpa2. No audio problems with PRE2 except speaker still works when headphones plugged in. |
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<dTal> |
FiftyOneFifty: That's a mixer option. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
OK, I'll look for it, thanks. |
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<dTal> |
There's a way of scripting it, I don't know how. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I only posted because assuming there is no variance in the ZipIt production, what works on one should work on all |
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<dTal> |
But Guerilla1 was using an image, not the packaged files. |
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<dTal> |
And if a tarball is corrupted, you might get a complaint from untar, whereas dd will happily copy any file byte for byte. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
OK, are folks exchanging custom images then rather than downloading them from RootNexus? It seems we have been fielding a lot of why doesn't my rootnexus work questions lately. |
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<dTal> |
No, rootnexus provides a bunch of different install messages. |
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<dTal> |
*methods |
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<dTal> |
There are a lot of ways to screw up each particular method. Multiply that by the number of methods and no wonder we're getting traffic. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
OK, I thought the rar's just built the bz2 archive. Not that I have any place to complain about questions. I'd never got mine going without a lot of help :) |
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<dTal> |
I think the way to go is to have the raw OS in squashfs, and put extra data and userland programs on the SD, which can be formatted Fat32. |
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<muriani> |
similar to how the dingoo does it |
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<muriani> |
with dingux |
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<dTal> |
I think you could even fit a basic directfb GUI in there. |
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<dTal> |
Or like how the Zipit's own OS does it. |
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<muriani> |
right |
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<muriani> |
maybe we should be looking more at the gp2x stuff |
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<muriani> |
they've got key-based UI systems , but they're more singletasking launchers |
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<dTal> |
You can even avoid most of the problems of updating. Simply post a new firmware in the form of a single compressed file that the old firmware can understand, unpack, and install automagically. |
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<muriani> |
right |
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<muriani> |
updating my dingoo is just extracting a localpack |
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<muriani> |
bam done |
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<muriani> |
but it could be scripted, yes |
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<dTal> |
Hell, you could even have that file contain new userland utilities too, and have replacing them part of the install script. |
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<dTal> |
And if someone puts in an SD with the wrong userland for that kernel version and it's incompatible, just have it say "this SD needs updating! please copy xyz file to it and reboot. Or, I can download it for you. Continue? (y/n)" |
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<muriani> |
yeah |
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<muriani> |
there's enough nand for something like that, no? |
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<muriani> |
since the original OS was completely stored internally, no reason this couldn't be |
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<dTal> |
Well, there was enough for Zipits pretty pictures, and mp3 player, and picture viewer, and sound drivers, and wifi network manager |
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<dTal> |
So I don't see why not, with judicious pruning. |
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<dTal> |
There was even enough space for the little opening jingle when it's turned on. |
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<dTal> |
"dang dong ding! (zzzzzzzzzZipit! ...ipit! ...pit!)" |
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<muriani> |
yeah, so base system boots from internal squashfs/jffs2/whatever, and then mounts the rest of the userland off the SD |
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<dTal> |
I think there's enough space for a basic userland too |
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<muriani> |
a very basic one, likely |
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<dTal> |
the SD would hold things like emulators, maybe movie players - have to see what you can fit |
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<muriani> |
busybox and some stuff |
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<dTal> |
but it should be useable without an SD |
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<muriani> |
we'd need some seriously light components |
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<muriani> |
browser, im client? |
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<muriani> |
I can't think of anything really good that's not console-based |
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<dTal> |
it would speed it up too, since the swap (file) would be on a different disk than the root. |
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<muriani> |
which is fine for some of us |
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<muriani> |
right |
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<dTal> |
Nothing wrong with console based, as long as it's seamless |
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<dTal> |
we're stuck with keyboard anyway |
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<muriani> |
right |
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<muriani> |
keyboard-based GUI could be good |
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<muriani> |
it'd have to be custom though, most likely |
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<dTal> |
I think CenterIM would go down well. It's pretty, easy to use, very keystroke economical, has hints in the status bar |
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<muriani> |
smiley button bring up a menu in the center, for launching apps, switching apps, etc |
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<muriani> |
centerim is good, i've used it before |
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<muriani> |
not on the zipit, but elsewhere |
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<dTal> |
works great on the zipit |
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<dTal> |
You can configure it to give audible alerts |
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<dTal> |
(though I haven't) |
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<dTal> |
Guerilla: well? |
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<Guerilla> |
rootnexus "Hello. I have temporarilly suspended access to the previous image. I have not been contacted by anyone but it contains some possibly copyrighted material. To ensure that I can continue providing this rootfs userland for the Z2, access to the old versions which contained the offending files have been temporarilly suspended. No worries though. Later today/tonight there will be a .tgz of the latest release with bugfixes |
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<Guerilla> |
i cant download the image |
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<dTal> |
Can't help you there, sorry |
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<Guerilla> |
hmm, i got it to d/l again |
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<Guerilla> |
i will report when the new image comes |
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<Guerilla> |
now i will try to dd old image to another sd card |
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<dTal> |
Hm, why not wait? |
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<dTal> |
No sense wearing out a card with a potentially bad image. |
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<Guerilla> |
k |
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<rkdavis> |
ok life rusking dinner |
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<rkdavis> |
risking even |
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<rkdavis> |
found a can od turkey soup in the cupboard |
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<rkdavis> |
but it was best before nov2009 |
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<rkdavis> |
should be ok but.... |
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<muriani> |
exciting! |
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<muriani> |
Hazardous! |
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<rkdavis> |
yup lunchtime roulette |
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<rkdavis> |
pick a randon dated soup can and see if i live |
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<rkdavis> |
i think it may have been in the cupboard in our last apt |
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<dTal> |
I have a dented can of korean spam dated 2007 |
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<dTal> |
eat? |
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<Guerilla> |
i have chinese spam in my email |
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<Guerilla> |
Dtal -> new download, dd it to sdcard, boots fine but again no swap activated, no alsa, wireless config not working... |
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<dTal> |
Huh. |
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<Guerilla> |
i wonder why my wifi is eth0 and not eth1? |
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<dTal> |
because everything's borked |
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<dTal> |
I don't know what's going wrong there. |
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<Guerilla> |
could firmware flashing go so wrong that it could break rootnexus? |
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<dTal> |
Possibly. Where'd you get the kernel from? |
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<Guerilla> |
iflashed with AutoFlasher-r2 and kernel zImage-zipit2.bin |
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<Guerilla> |
downloaded from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzipit/files/ |
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<Guerilla> |
renamed zImage-zipit2.bin to kernel.bin and flashed |
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<Guerilla> |
i do get the bootscreen with animal |
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<Guerilla> |
then i dd rootnexus to sd and thats it |
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<dTal> |
Yeah, but if the kernel version and the userland version didn't match |
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<Guerilla> |
zImage-zipit2.bin = 2.6.29+Userland-r1, rootnexus = dunno? |
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<Guerilla> |
why is there zImage-zipit2.bin and wireless-image-zipit2.tar.gz on openzipit pack? |
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<Guerilla> |
how do i use wireless-image-zipit2.tar.gz |
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<aliosa27> |
you dont |
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<aliosa27> |
that is the old oldness |
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<Guerilla> |
k |
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<Guerilla> |
so i did right flashing with zImage-zipit2.bin? |
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<aliosa27> |
i have never used rootnexus to know what kernel it requires |
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<dTal> |
works for me |
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<dTal> |
where'd you get zImage-zipit2.bin? |
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<Guerilla> |
from http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzipit/files/ |
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<Guerilla> |
zImage-zipit2.bin 1.7 MB 2009-04-06 md5 7d6e776f4951f64dec12b0eda1c08845 |
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<Guerilla> |
downloaded it again and got the same md5 |
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<dTal> |
Hmm, I got it from inside the userland hunter davis linked originally |
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<dTal> |
I'll md5 my own copy when I get my hands on it |
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<Guerilla> |
thx |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Guerila: Another 2 cents and back 2 work again. Just at zipit.rootnexus.org and the link to rc1pre2 is up. That was the message from the transition pre1 to pre2. Sure you don't need to refresh the page? |
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<Guerilla> |
FiftyOneFifty -> i managed to download 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd from rootnexus site, i had some problems with refreshing but managed to work over it |
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<Guerilla> |
how to check if zImage-zipit2.bin kernel version is the as in rootnexus 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd? |
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<Guerilla> |
uname -r shows 2.6.29 |
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<dTal> |
Okay, braces don't work in vim. This won't do. |
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<dTal> |
Yo, dudes, I think the keymap is screwy |
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<dTal> |
left curly bracket produces an escape sequence first |
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<dTal> |
Yo, what's the difference between keymap and keymap.map? |
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<dTal> |
in /etc |
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<dTal> |
Guerilla1: Your kernel image is different from mine. |
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<dTal> |
In the autoflasher, what is "fixing /dev/mtdblock1" for? |
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<rkdavis> |
because the node is the wrong type by default in stocvk |
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<rkdavis> |
it's block when it should be char or vice versa |
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<dTal> |
So if you were, say, reflashing from another kernel |
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<dTal> |
that step would be unneccesary |
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<rkdavis> |
depends on the device nodes but normally no but it won't hurt |
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<dTal> |
right |
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<dTal> |
Is there a better keymap than the one I'm using: This is screwy. |
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<dTal> |
? |
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<rkdavis> |
which keymap are you using? |
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<rkdavis> |
and i assume it's the x one not console one |
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<rkdavis> |
you've used the one lokichaos did? |
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<dTal> |
I'm using whatever came with rootnexus |
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<dTal> |
And it's weird and screwy and missing stuff. |
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<querilla> |
i falshed my z2 firmware with AutoFlasher-r2 and zImage-zipit2.bin file, but that firmware is not working with rootnexus image |
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<dTal> |
Such as, the left brace has some strange escape code preceding it, which causes terminal beeps and breaks vim. |
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<querilla> |
so, can i reflash my z2 with new firmware from z2 with command "dd if=/zImage-2.6.29 of=/dev/mtdblock1? |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: can you paste bin it and i'll look to seee if it's fixable |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that could be one of the dead combos |
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<dTal> |
it is the /etc/keymap.map file I want right? |
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<querilla> |
has any of you guys reflashed z2? |
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<dTal> |
or the /etc/keymap file? |
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<rkdavis> |
should be the .map one |
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<rkdavis> |
http://thebigredswitch.comuf.com/ZipIt/zipitkeymap-template.pdf anything in black is hard to use or gives weird effects when used |
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<rkdavis> |
anything red, green blue or purple are usable and reprogrammable |
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<rkdavis> |
querilla: lots of times :) |
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<dTal> |
hmmm, a pdf |
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<dTal> |
how interesting |
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<querilla> |
can you give me some advices? |
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<dTal> |
:) |
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<querilla> |
will "dd if=/zImage-2.6.29 of=/dev/mtdblock1" brick my z2? |
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<querilla> |
of what commands should i use? |
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<rkdavis> |
querilla but yes you can dd a new kernel |
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<rkdavis> |
querilla it is really where you got the kernel from |
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<rkdavis> |
if it's self built or from an unknown source it's possible but if it's a standard one it will be ok |
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<rkdavis> |
and the dd statement is correct for knwn working kernels |
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<dTal> |
it's mine, rkdavis |
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<dTal> |
still working out pastebin |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: so youused aliosa's originally didn't you so it's a known working kenel |
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<dTal> |
yeah |
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<dTal> |
pastebin is hard to work when you can only copy a screen at a time |
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<rkdavis> |
so yes it should be dd'able |
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<querilla> |
k, so i will it try now |
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<querilla> |
fingers crossed... |
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<rkdavis> |
querilla ok fingers crossed |
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<querilla> |
*1.7 mb copied* |
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<querilla> |
will try reboot now |
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<querilla> |
rebooted on the desktop again |
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<rkdavis> |
ok we'll wait for the explosion |
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<querilla> |
how can i check the kernel version if it really flashed? |
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<rkdavis> |
after it boots cat /proc/version |
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<querilla> |
"Linux version 2.6.29 april 6 20:19:58 2009" |
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<rkdavis> |
yup that sounds like sweetlilmre's .29 version |
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<querilla> |
my z2 is about 7 x times faster now :P |
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<querilla> |
every window pops open much faster than before and programs start faster, even bootup was about 10 seconds faster |
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<rkdavis> |
wha kernel were you using before? |
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<querilla> |
the one from the http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzipit/files/ |
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<querilla> |
zImage-zipit2.bin |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm the dates are from around the same time should have been the same one -- oh well so many kernels hard to know which is which |
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<querilla> |
md5 is different |
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<querilla> |
7d6e776f4951f64dec12b0eda1c08845 for the old one and d32c8725c6142d5b7cca469774badbd5 for the new |
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<rkdavis> |
oh well if it works then sod it :) doesn't matter where it came from |
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<querilla> |
dd:ing rootnexus to my sd-card again, soon i'll know if everything will work ok |
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<querilla> |
rebooted, it's still bit faster but alsa still not showing with lsmod, swap not working and wireless in eth0 |
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<dTal> |
This is with the aliosa kernel? |
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<querilla> |
i wonder if manufacturer recently changed z2 hardware? |
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<querilla> |
yes |
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<querilla> |
or maeby rootnexus is broken |
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<querilla> |
this problem continues with all 4 z2 with redownloaded rootnexus image, 2 different sd-cards, and 2 different kernels |
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<rkdavis> |
querillano hardware changes since 2007 apart from a few patch wires |
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<rkdavis> |
that were removed |
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<querilla> |
then i have no idea what is causing all of the problems |
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<querilla> |
maeby tomorrow i will try aliosa userland |
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<querilla> |
what's the best debian image for z2 that works for sure? |
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<dTal> |
querilla: rootnexus |
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<dTal> |
you might try using the release that isn't an image |
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<querilla> |
k |
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<querilla> |
if nothing works i will tear hardware out of z2 and use it to store spearmints or money |
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<querilla> |
thx to you guys for good advices, if you ever come to Finland i will treat you a round in a bar :D |
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<querilla> |
well i have to go to sleep now. university in 5 hours... |
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<querilla> |
bye guys! |
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<rkdavis> |
night |
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