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<ogmious09_> |
ARGH |
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<vod> |
ok, this has nothing to do with the zipit. but i thought you guys might be interested, and this information may in fact one day save your life http://oism.org/nwss/s73p938.htm |
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<rkdavis> |
ogmious09_: why the argh? stepped on a tack? |
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<ogmious09_> |
got a ubuntu server at the office running zoneminder with motion detect cameras, etc. |
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<ogmious09_> |
Well I had, the hard drive crashed and instead of using a prebuilt live cd and installing I decided to give ti a go from scratch |
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<rkdavis> |
and a racoonn broke in and stole all your cookies setting off the laarms? |
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<ogmious09_> |
so I installed ubuntu server webmin, ssh and headed home figuring I would just finish configuring it from home. Did apt-get install zoneminded, got that all going but it's an old package in the repos, want the newer zoneminder that works with my cameras and thus the ARGHHHH begins |
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<ogmious09_> |
*zoneminder |
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<ogmious09_> |
completely idiotic, just doing a simple not even point release update |
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<rkdavis> |
well that's what using a debian based system will do to you |
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<ogmious09_> |
ofcourse it's bitching about missing dependencies and broken packages now |
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<rkdavis> |
told you debian/ubuntu is evil |
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<ogmious09_> |
problem is it's what I got into linux with, that and puppy linux |
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<ogmious09_> |
had a torrent seed box for years that was ubuntu server based and it just worked awesome |
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<ogmious09_> |
it's these sumsabridges libsav packages that are getting in the mother trucker way |
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<ogmious09_> |
If I had a remote Burn the bastard button I would hit it right now |
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<ogmious09_> |
This f'ing distro can suck a rusty penny bullet hole |
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<vod> |
what's wrong debian? except the way they introduce bugs in good software and for some wierd reason refuse to package up-to-date stuff. |
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<ogmious09_> |
the update stuff package thing is a real pain |
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<ogmious09_> |
for off the shelf youtubing and myspacing it's great vod but for some particular applications I have run into lately it blows |
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<rkdavis> |
nmorning all |
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<muriani> |
yeah, if you want anything resembling an updated debian-ish system, ubuntu is it. |
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<ariggsd> |
does anyone know who to set up the new root nexus userland image on a zipit z2 running aliosa27's userland image? |
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<muriani> |
wipe the aliosa userland,a nd drop the rootnexus one on the card? |
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<muriani> |
I'm pretty sure it's just that simple |
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<muriani> |
you'll want to do it in linux though, permissions and all that |
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<ariggsd> |
the root nexus on it in pieces though so how do i do that? just put them in one folder? |
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<muriani> |
it's just a tarball with /bin /usr /etc etc in it right? |
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<rkdavis> |
muriani: it's a split rar archive |
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<rkdavis> |
with the tarball inside |
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<rkdavis> |
so he just needs to unrar and the do the tar thing |
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<ariggsd> |
how???? |
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<ariggsd> |
im on a ubuntu 9.10 linux laptop |
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<muriani> |
unrar it first |
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<ariggsd> |
again how? im a complete noob |
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<muriani> |
with your archive manager of choice? |
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<muriani> |
you may need to make sure that rar is installed |
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<ariggsd> |
7-zip? |
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<muriani> |
check that in synaptic first |
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<muriani> |
usually ubuntu includes Archive Manager or File Roller |
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<muriani> |
both are good, but you may need to install rar support seperately |
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<ariggsd> |
so would 7-zip work for that |
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<muriani> |
7zip is its own compression format |
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<ariggsd> |
this is greek to me the only way i was able to get aliosa27's on it is because i followed hak5's video, but their video about upgrading to the new userland uses the old rootfs that is currently down |
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<ariggsd> |
ok i have all 5 parts of the userland on my ubuntu laptop so what should be the next step |
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<ariggsd> |
anyone? |
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<rkdavis> |
ariggsd: now you have to extract the tarball from the rar files |
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<rkdavis> |
so from a terminal type something like |
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<rkdavis> |
unrar e whateverthefarfilesiscallednumber1 |
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<muriani> |
(or double-click the first file, it should open it in an archive manager, and you can click the little extract button) |
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<ariggsd> |
ok its extracting the first one |
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<ariggsd> |
one moment while i do the other four |
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<muriani> |
it should have done all four |
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<rkdavis> |
ariggsd: if you did it right it doesn't work that way |
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<muriani> |
it'll pull everything from all four files if you get it from the first one |
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<rkdavis> |
you extract the file from the first and it automagically gets all the bits |
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<ariggsd> |
there are five and they are all seprerate files so i have to do each one individually |
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<muriani> |
no, no |
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<muriani> |
thta's not how rar works |
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<muriani> |
it automatically detects that it's a multi-part .rar archive. |
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<muriani> |
so the program, whatever you used, automatically got everything out of those other four files. |
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<ariggsd> |
when i go to the terminal and type unrar e rc1-per2-dd.part1.rar it tells me that no such file exists |
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<muriani> |
what happens when you double-click on the rar file in nautilus or whatever file manager you're using? |
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<muriani> |
or from the desktop? |
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<ariggsd> |
when i double click it from the desktop it opens in archive manager |
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<muriani> |
RIGHT |
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<muriani> |
now click the extract button in archive manager, and tell it where you want it to go |
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<muriani> |
and that's itl |
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<muriani> |
it'll handle the rest, all the other parts automatically. |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
or let you know that there's a problem (missing/corrupt part, etc.) |
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<ariggsd> |
ok its doing them all my bad now what |
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<ariggsd> |
ok done next step? |
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<muriani> |
same way you put aliosa's on it |
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<muriani> |
format the sd card, and extract the tarball to it |
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<muriani> |
should be the exact same method, just different file name |
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<ariggsd> |
the 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd.tar.bz2 file/ |
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<muriani> |
yeah |
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<muriani> |
you'll need to make sure bzip2 is installed as well, check synaptic again for that |
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<muriani> |
unless you're already sure of it |
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<ariggsd> |
what is bzip2? |
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<muriani> |
it's the program that handles .bz2 |
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<ariggsd> |
ok im pretty sure i dont have that |
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<ariggsd> |
can i get that with an apt-get command |
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<deki> |
yes |
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<muriani> |
why not use synaptic, and just search for bzip2? |
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<muriani> |
and then click it and tell it to install? |
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<muriani> |
you're bypassing everything that makes ubuntu n00b-friendly. |
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<deki> |
too complicated |
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<ariggsd> |
sorry more of me being a noob |
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<ariggsd> |
what is synaptic lol sorry im clueless |
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<muriani> |
if you look in your menus in ubuntu, probably in the administration menu |
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<muriani> |
it's a nice list of all the stuff you can install from the ubuntu repos |
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<muriani> |
it's a GUI for apt-get, basically. |
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<ariggsd> |
ok it is installed already |
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<ariggsd> |
now what? |
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<muriani> |
extract it over to the sd like you did aliosa's userland |
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<ariggsd> |
do i need to reformat it to fat32 again and re-copy the wireless firmware to libertas |
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<muriani> |
that bit I don't know. |
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<muriani> |
format, yes |
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<muriani> |
wifi firmware, not sure. |
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<ariggsd> |
i guess ill just wait until i can get another sd card that way if it doesnt work then i can just pop in the old one |
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<ariggsd> |
thanks for your help and patience |
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<needhelp2> |
hi I got rootnexus on the sd card and my zipit2 booted up nice...mouse works by clicking the option button...the problem I face is that when I scroll to the "connect" desktop item or the "wifi connect" on the task bar and click on it, nothing happens. |
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<muriani> |
do you have the wifi firmware? |
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<muriani> |
I don't think it's included anymore in the rootnexus images, for legal reasons. |
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<needhelp2> |
well i am not able to launch any programs...ie. the browser too...so my issue is very basic |
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<muriani> |
sounds like an issue with the userland. Try reformatting the card and copying it over? |
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<muriani> |
or are you sure you're clicking the right button to for mouse click? |
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<needhelp2> |
when I click on any item I get a popup window that has "Customise menu, fox-fILER..eDIT ITEM...SHOW lOCATION...rEMOVE ITEM(S)..." |
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<muriani> |
ok, that's the wrong button. |
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<muriani> |
that's the equivalent of a right-click, it seems;. |
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<needhelp2> |
yes...I am clicking the round button at the center of the mouse keys..is that the wrong one ? |
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<muriani> |
that is the wrong one. |
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<muriani> |
it's the stop button next to the mousekeys, if I recall correctly. |
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<needhelp2> |
ok...that is the one...ty...and is there any place where i can have some "get me started with rootnexus" type of information ? |
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<muriani> |
Dunno, I'm using an older version. |
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<muriani> |
most of the people who'd know are off for the weekend, only reason I'm online is because I"m at work. |
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<needhelp2> |
tx |
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<needhelp2> |
I was able to connect over wi-fi and actually browse youtube and play a video. |
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<needhelp2> |
so it looks like the image i got (1gb) does have the wifi drivers |
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<zmef> |
hey needhelp2, you had to use a 1 gig card to install rootnexus right? |
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<needhelp2> |
no..i have a 2gb card that i copied the image and it works fine. |
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<zmef> |
oh, cool |
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<zmef> |
so i should be able to install it on my stock z2 with a 2 gig card i guess |
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<needhelp2> |
and i have another 4gb card on which i have the openzipit and it runs too. |
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<needhelp2> |
yes |
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<zmef> |
what is your fav? |
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<zmef> |
i am using iz2s from sd card but i would like to try rootnexus |
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<needhelp2> |
rootnexus ...though i have it running for only couple hours..but it is very easy. |
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<needhelp2> |
and aliosa27 suggested that to me yesterday (and i was using openzipit image that he had created...so if he was recommending rootnexus, i was not going to question him) |
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<needhelp2> |
and so far i have got wifi going, browser going, checked gmail, replied email, saved images from email..ran a video on youtube... and i never had this much luck with the other one after 3 weeks ! |
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<zmef> |
so from stock z2 how would i install rootnexus? |
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<needhelp2> |
oh you have to flash it first...and that is the most difficult part...have you done that before ? |
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<zmef> |
nope |
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<needhelp2> |
well you have to be very careful...one mistake and zipit is dead..let me get you the link where they have pretty good documentation |
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<zmef> |
so i still use aliosa27's kernel.bin right? |
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<needhelp2> |
http://quantumlime.com/zipit |
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<needhelp2> |
yes |
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<zmef> |
ok and then just use the rootnexus image or finish with aliosa27's and upgrade |
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<needhelp2> |
just do the flashing using aliosa27's stuff but then use rootnexus image. |
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<needhelp2> |
are you using linux machine or windows ? |
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<zmef> |
winblows |
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<zmef> |
i have lin too |
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<zmef> |
did you use physdiskwrite with the 1 gig image with a 2 gig card? that is what i am about to do |
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<zmef> |
or not |
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<zmef> |
the rootnexus site gives the impression you cannot flash the i gig image to a 2 gig sd |
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<needhelp2> |
i used physdiskwrite (command line) and do a complete format of the sd card as fat16 |
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<needhelp2> |
and if you have vista, start the dos-command window as administrator before running the physdiskwrite program |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
zmef: use the file copy method to get the full use of your 2gb car |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
*card |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
because that image doesn't expand all that easily |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
trust me, i tried ;) |
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<Gnuet> |
2Gb car wont fit in 1Gb garage ^^ |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
Gnuet, more like a 1gb car in a 2gb garage in his case |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
which fits, but with a bunch of extra space |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
for the lawnmower and a beer fridge |
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<zmef> |
that you can't use though |
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<zmef> |
right |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you could manually add a second partition after-the-fact and mount it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
or do what i did, ~1950mb for partition 1 ext3, remainder for partition 2 swap, and cp it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
maybe i'll reset everything to default and image my card for everyone... |
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<zmef> |
so i could just flash your 2 g image eh? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yeah |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
and it'd save us having to re-explain over and over |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
:P |
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<zmef> |
lol |
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<needhelp2> |
how do i change the background image on zipt running rootnexus ? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
needhelp2, with the desktop icons disabled, you can edit the path in ~/.xinitrc that points to one and uncomment it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
starts with feg |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
*feh |
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<needhelp2> |
tx. |
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<needhelp2> |
how do i increase the font size for the terminal window...I am having a hard time reading .xinitrc file in nano |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
not quite sure, seeing as i can read it fine |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sorry |
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<zmef> |
do i rename the 1gb.rc1-pre2.dd to 1gb.rc1-pre2.img? |
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<needhelp2> |
you dont need to do that (i didnt) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you don't have to |
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<zmef> |
k |
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<zmef> |
thanks guys |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yup |
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<needhelp2> |
is there anyway to change the penguin image when zipit boots (i have used aliosa27's kernel to flash my zipit) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you mean the weasel with the beak? |
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<needhelp2> |
yes |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
not that i can recall, but seeing that is a good sign that things are working |
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<zmef> |
man, i hate not being able to push up and get history on win command line |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you can do that |
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<zmef> |
really? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
only within the same session, but... |
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<zmef> |
right |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
supposedly powershell does it though |
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<zmef> |
well i think i borked my card |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
doubt it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
unless you snapped it in half or have been writing to it constantly for the past two years |
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<zmef> |
physwrite failed after a bit, so i tried to reformat the card and now it's only seen as 950 mb |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
physdiskwrite has that issue |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
do it from a linux livecd |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you'll be happier |
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<zmef> |
will the card still work then |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sure |
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<zmef> |
i have ubuntu on another machine |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
go for it |
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<zmef> |
ill try it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
and in that case, repartition it manually with cfdisk and cp everything |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
then you can get the full 2gb |
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<needhelp2> |
is there a tab key for zipit ? I mean is there a combination or someway to get tab working ? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
it's the Z-face key at the top |
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<needhelp2> |
cool. |
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how does drag and drop work on this ? I am trying to change the backdrop and it say to drag and drop the image on the "set backdrop" window. |
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<Adnyxo> |
stop button |
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<needhelp2> |
tx |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: Are you on, hows the back? |
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<rkdavis> |
okish |
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<rkdavis> |
and thnx for asking |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Glad to hear your not in traction :) When I'm not in IRC, I review the logs and I read the conversation you had with jag the other evening. You don't need another thing on top. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: Yesterday, you discussing that the headphone port could switch to mono. Is that something you can switch on the fly with a command or does it have to be set on boot? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Mono plus mic |
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<rkdavis> |
not me -- it was dtal that said that |
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<rkdavis> |
personallly i'm 50/50 on the possibilitiy but he could be right, not read the chip data sheet properly so not sure what it can do |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
my bad, I need to do look at the logs before midnight when my brain works |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
OK, I'll look at the pin outs. It looks like adding a second 3.5mm port for a mic would be one of the less destructive mods one could do. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Can I do work like that and the resistor that needs to be removed for the USB mod with a normal hobby shop soldering iron or do I need something lower power for finite work? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup gpsfan soldered a mic onto his zipit mb |
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<rkdavis> |
well the resister can be a trace cut instead |
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<rkdavis> |
about the mic i would say stasndard rs iron should do |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Good, I have a wired mono headset from an x51v. Some anti-malware software I installed on my WinFail box blocked port 990 and I never got the dang thing to Activesync even after uninstalling all my antimalware software. Dell was no help. "Does is light up when you press the power button? OK, we're done" |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Downloaded Foxx's x51 show, looking forward to finding out what else I can do with it. |
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<rkdavis> |
makes a great paperweight and catapult ammo |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Little expensive for that, I added a keyboard and other accessories as I wanted to use it to replace my $150 Treo 90 (battery fail). Got my UX right after that and it wasn't worth messing with the Axim. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I ought to find out what I can do with the 90 as well. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Well, Dad is probably wondering why i've been in 45 minutes and haven't got his supper and it is hard to type with the cat wanting to sit on my head. Back later. |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
ok cya |
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<Aelius> |
I replaced my blutooth headset's battery with a nano's battery |
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<Aelius> |
I almost feel smart |
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<Adnyxo> |
:) |
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<Adnyxo> |
i do the same thing |
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<Adnyxo> |
red wire to red wire... YES I DID IT IM SO HAPPY |
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<Adnyxo> |
heh |
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<Aelius> |
haha |
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<Aelius> |
this was more tricky than usual |
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<Aelius> |
red to red... and green to black |
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<Aelius> |
i stared at it for a while |
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<Aelius> |
trying to will a black wire into existance |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
humm |
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<Mcavity> |
ok i am here =) |
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<Mcavity> |
rkdavis any progress with the usb hack? |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity: well gpsfan is the one doing it i'm only testing it for buildability and atm my oe is broken so having to redo it |
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<rkdavis> |
and i'll be trying to backport it but gpsfan is the maven of the zipit hardware :) |
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<Aelius> |
adding usb to the zipit? |
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<Mcavity> |
ok cool.. well ill keep watching =) |
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<zmef> |
ok , i now have rootnexus installed but it won't give me the gui, just keeps dropping back to shell |
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<zmef> |
when xwindows exits i recieve a message to check the log but the file does not exist |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Did you 1. untar as root "tar -xjvf <path2rootnexusfile> -C <path2mountedExt3PartitionOn The SD>" 2. Make a swap partition |
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<zmef> |
well, i actually transfered the image from win pc to lin box on a usb flash drive |
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<zmef> |
that is most likely the problem |
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<zmef> |
i will try again |
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<zmef> |
how big of swap btw? |
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<zmef> |
i used around 128 mb |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
For normal linux, common wisdom is 2.5x physical ram (my first RootNexus was 128 and worked fine) but most of the experienced guys have been recommending at least 256 |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Hak5 did RootNexus using Windows, let me grab the link |
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<Aelius> |
only for SD |
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<Aelius> |
not sdhc |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
This is an install of RC0 using Windows tools, but the same methods should work. http://www.hak5.org/episodes/episode-625-backtrack-4-persistent-and-zipit-userland-images |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
If all you have is Windows, download Portable Ubuntu (used to be Ubuntu for Windows). It's all of Hardy recompiled to run as a Windows app, not an emulator. Then just open a terminal and untar RootNexus as you would in Linux |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i think my swap's somewhere around 32-64 hehe |
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<zmef> |
i have linux on a machine and i used that to partition the card, copied the img from my win box to usb and loaded with the lin box |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Well, I'm using an 8Gb SDHC, so I have the room. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Where you root at the time? |
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<zmef> |
no i used sudo |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Some files don't copy unless u r root |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i used sudo |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
mine works fine |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
SUDO should work |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
jag's original instructions had Ext3 first on card, swap at the end. Don't know if it wuld actually make a difference. |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
http://albums.kimag.es/albums/nicktabick/57330562.png <-- my rootnexus sd |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
zmet: Does your SD list a speed class (2,4, or 6) Only 4 works |
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<zmef> |
doesn't say |
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<zmef> |
would i be able to get this far otherwise? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Probably. 2 too slow, 6 too fast |
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<Aelius> |
haha, that doesnt make sense |
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<Aelius> |
It's too fast! I cant do it! |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
zmet: Put the SD back in your Linux box and run HDPARM on it from the command line. rkdavis told me that will give you the class. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
It might also tell you on the manufactures web page |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
HDPARM has a -E parameter to change the speed of a CD, no idea what it would do to an SD |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: i only use it to check the throughput |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Can that be resolved to a speed class ? |
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<rkdavis> |
if you see it's really slow then you know the card will suck |
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<rkdavis> |
i have never tried to use it to change anything |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: sort of |
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<rkdavis> |
if you see it is doing 20Mb/s then it's class two 40 then class 4 and so on although i might have my si units wrong |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I think you would have to make the change on the ZipIt, I doubt the parameter is stored on the card |
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<rkdavis> |
one thing i have noticed though is that cards seem to wear very quickly |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
And HDPARM is "command not found" on the ZipIt |
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<rkdavis> |
i had a card that after only about a week of use went from 40 to 20 to 10 in the space of 2 weeks and about 1000 writes |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I have one dead already after installs of 2 gen of RootNexus and not much use |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Haven't tried to reformat it yet |
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<rkdavis> |
swap as far as i'm concerned no matter what anyone says is not a good idea on flash |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
The X will run without it? |
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<rkdavis> |
and it seems that the wear algorithmx really don't lend themselves to lots of little writes |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: dunno if X will |
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<rkdavis> |
might do but probably nothing else if it does |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Would USB flash fair any better once we get it? |
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<rkdavis> |
i have apile of cards here that are no use for anything but shoving in a cellphone or emergency laptop storage as they just won't work in the zipit any more |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Looks like I need to steal some kid's iPod to get the 1.8" spinning drive |
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<rkdavis> |
nope flash is flash and all have limited write cycles |
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<rkdavis> |
swap is not something to be put on something where there are lots of writes and especially not lots of little writes |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/application_notes/xapp914.pdf :) |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
My UX has 1.8", might as well be SSD for the replacement cost |
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<Aelius> |
yeah, a little late to add my 2 cents |
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<Aelius> |
but having an OS on flash memory will give you a week of straight use |
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<Aelius> |
2 days if you do it with windows |
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<Aelius> |
XD |
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<rkdavis> |
30seconds if it's vista |
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<Aelius> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
actually if it's vista the card committes suicide rather than have vista put on it |
