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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Webhostbud: jagsph has a battery meter in RootNexus. Check the forum logs, I think he has talked about the values he poles |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<Mcavity_> |
morning |
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<rkdavis> |
morning GPSFan |
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<Foxx> |
oi |
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<rkdavis> |
yo foxx |
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<Foxx> |
so I got this Rightway RW400 GPS, its running WinCE |
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<Foxx> |
been hacking away at it for the past few days |
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<GPSFan> |
rkdavis, howdy |
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<Foxx> |
I know enough about WinCE to not brick the damned thing, but its been kicking my ass |
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<Foxx> |
ey' GPSFan, long time |
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<Foxx> |
hows things been? |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: easily solved install linux :) |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: well ask GPSFanabout usb :) |
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<Foxx> |
rkdavis, you find me a way to do it, and ill try |
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<Foxx> |
but to be honest, I want to stick with WinCE, being that this thing is a GPS unit and all |
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<Foxx> |
not much in the way for GPS mapping and routing for linux, let alone such a limited piece of hardware |
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<GPSFan> |
Foxx, been z2 hacking again, a bit of progress. |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: you'll LOVE this :) |
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<Foxx> |
my Z2 has been staring at me, asking to be played with |
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<GPSFan> |
I've been un-bit-rotting 2.6.33-rc3, I got wireless working last night. got some odd userspace issues with sound though. |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: no tell himthe good thing :) |
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<Foxx> |
USB Host?! |
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<GPSFan> |
usb host is working. not fully tested yet though |
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<Foxx> |
fuckin' sweet |
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<Foxx> |
through the dock connector, or pads on the PCB? |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: and the hw mod required seems to be well within the range of even the most cack handed gimp |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e. me |
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<Foxx> |
cause either way, toss me an image and ill do testing |
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<Foxx> |
I can handle an iron really well |
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<GPSFan> |
only thing really tested is enumeration of lots of types of adapters and usb mass storage works for my usb stick read & write fat & ext2 |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: but this is really good, pity about u-bbot and usb booting but one day maybe |
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<Foxx> |
when you have a linux-noob friendly build, and mouse support in flux (or whatever) let me know |
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<Foxx> |
im game for testing |
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<Foxx> |
whats involved? |
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<Foxx> |
hardware wise I mean |
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<GPSFan> |
get a connector, build a cable cut a trace. |
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<Foxx> |
got a pic? |
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<rkdavis> |
as far as it seems according to GPSFan is the removal of a single resistor (or cut a trace) |
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<GPSFan> |
yeah, got a prelim tarball package with all sorts of info, but am cautious about posting it. |
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<Foxx> |
or the PCB name of the resistor? |
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<Foxx> |
ive got my own internal pics |
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<GPSFan> |
1157 |
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<Foxx> |
general location on the board? |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: yes better to hold of until it's idiot proof, i'll be the idiot to test |
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<GPSFan> |
near the rear conn |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, I agree |
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<GPSFan> |
Foxx, you use dcc? |
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<Foxx> |
now that the Z2 has hit the whole leet-haxx0r scene, its going to be filled with fucktons of idiots |
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<rkdavis> |
i don't mind killing zipits for the cause but somepeople might get a btit peeved |
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<Foxx> |
GPSFan, ill PM you |
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<GPSFan> |
rkdavis, can you get the file from Foxx ? |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: almost certianly |
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<GPSFan> |
take a look, the .config needs work, and the patchset works for 2.6.33-rc3 from linux-arm |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: ok i'll take a look |
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<rkdavis> |
just need to test an sd card generator and then i'm free all day (other than housework) |
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<Foxx> |
what is the resistor for? |
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<Foxx> |
pullup for something? |
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<GPSFan> |
yeah, it was for usb client, and was not really needed, but aeronix didn't read the book and it screws up enumeration on usb host. |
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<Foxx> |
very interesting find |
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<Foxx> |
im still looking to buy an inexpensive bricked Z2 |
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<Foxx> |
cause, yeah, im not a wuss and can handle a soldering iron to debrick it |
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<Foxx> |
ive been nipple deep in this Rightway RW400 WinCE GPS for a few days now |
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<Foxx> |
I need to make a 5V charger for it, it only came with a cigerette lighter charger |
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<Foxx> |
and no, im not just going to rig in a 12V adapter to that, I do have proper 5V supplies |
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<Foxx> |
just need to make a case for it so there are no exposed 120VAC pads |
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<Foxx> |
dont want the lil' lady to grab it while its plugged in and get a zap |
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<Foxx> |
... again |
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<rkdavis> |
or just up the insurence coverage |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey foxx, you there? i need to ask you some questions about making a better zipit. Specifically, upgrading the display and a few factors regarding the case |
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<Foxx> |
yeah im here |
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<Foxx> |
I dont think it would be very practical in general |
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<Foxx> |
the LCD is already pretty decent |
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<Adnyxo> |
<rkdavis> Foxx: and the hw mod required seems to be well within the range of even the most cack handed gimp |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, I think rkdavis gives them too much credit |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol rkdavis doya just need basic soldering skills, cause thats what ive got |
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<Foxx> |
ive seen some fuck horrid work |
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<Foxx> |
id sooner tell them to clip the resistor off with some nail clippers |
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<Adnyxo> |
from who? |
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<Adnyxo> |
well about the screen, rkdavis said the graphics controller could support up to 800 by 4 something |
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<Adnyxo> |
so would upgrading the display be as simple as connecting the proper wires out of the zipit to the corresponding ones on the display as long as the display has linux drivers? |
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<Foxx> |
no |
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<Adnyxo> |
ok |
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<Adnyxo> |
thats too bad |
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<Foxx> |
in fact, that doesnt even sound remotely plausable |
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<Adnyxo> |
damn |
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<Foxx> |
the amount of hardware work needed for it would cost more than the Z2 itself |
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<Adnyxo> |
okay so forget that |
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<Foxx> |
the amount of work it would take to rebuild a Z2 into another form factor, you might as well just buy a different device suited for your needs |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: yup it's doable just not cost effective or even that sensible but it is doable |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: i do like to give the benifit of the doubt on skillsets but i delete 50% from anyone in irc or who says they can do it |
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<Foxx> |
having to rebuild the keybaord alone would be an insane task |
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<Foxx> |
and look like ass |
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<Adnyxo> |
rkdavis: i cant do it |
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<rkdavis> |
fox the keyboard might be semi-easyish -- possibly only require a small controller board. the matrix stuff seems pretty standard. the screen would probably be the hardest as i don't think i've ever seen two with the same conenctors even within brands (i lie of course) |
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<rkdavis> |
and the prices are rediculous |
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<rkdavis> |
in theory everything is possible but is the ROI worth it |
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<Adnyxo> |
well i was looking at a 3' 800x480 samsung lcd for $20 |
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<Adnyxo> |
but i believe you guys, you know what youre talking about |
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<rkdavis> |
3 feet? :) |
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<Adnyxo> |
yes three feet |
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<Adnyxo> |
3 INCH samsung lcd for $20 |
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<rkdavis> |
a three foot lcd with 800x480 resoutions? are they crazy? |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
thought you means 3" but had to check :) |
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<Foxx> |
in theory you COULD swap the LCD |
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<Foxx> |
but its not an easy task |
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<Adnyxo> |
im all for easy |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, and its why you will always fail |
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<Adnyxo> |
and ive only got one zipit right now |
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<Foxx> |
just going from the ZIF connector to *anything else* would be a major issue |
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<Foxx> |
since its a ZIF FPC cable |
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<Adnyxo> |
well ill try harder stuff but i prefer to find an easier way for things |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: i had a look at lcd replacement but nothing suitable in the right price range and the problems would be killers unless you do it for a living |
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<rkdavis> |
there are lots of things you could do hardware wise |
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<Adnyxo> |
im thinking of also upgrading the speaker and the battery |
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<Foxx> |
im a pretty hardcore hardware hacker with some very lucritive resources, and even I think its not worth it |
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<Adnyxo> |
okay okay it was a bad idea |
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<Foxx> |
battery could be done, but I would just get a 5V backup pack |
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<Foxx> |
in fact, I have some |
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<Adnyxo> |
thanks for saving me $20 and probably my zipit |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: i never said it was worth it i said it was possible with the right knowledge and resources |
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<Adnyxo> |
anyways |
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<Foxx> |
I have a solar charging 1.4A Li-ion pack that looks like a GBA SP |
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<Foxx> |
you can charge it from wall power, or leave it in the sun |
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<Adnyxo> |
cool |
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<Foxx> |
and it has interchangeable heads, PSP, NDS, GBA SP, and I made some for my PDAs and such |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: you ever come across a better battery that fits neatly i'm interested |
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<Adnyxo> |
for some strange reason i want to put the zipit in a dsi case |
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<Adnyxo> |
which would give me room for two better speakers and a bigger battery |
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<rkdavis> |
i'd love to move up to 2009 battery tech rather than 2006 battery tech |
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<Adnyxo> |
i only get like 1 hr of actual use on mine |
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<Adnyxo> |
and its only like a month old |
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<Adnyxo> |
but jags latest userland has helped that |
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<Foxx> |
well, they have a really thin li-polly cell in the Z2 itself, there isnt much you can do in the way of replacing it with a bigger one |
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<Foxx> |
unless you can redesign a butt-pack |
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<Foxx> |
something that fits on the bottom and extends the Z2 to be a little thicker |
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<Foxx> |
like they have for the PSP |
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<Foxx> |
those thicker cell batteries |
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<Foxx> |
and cell phones |
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<Foxx> |
and PDAs |
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<Foxx> |
thats do-able |
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<Adnyxo> |
well im hoping the ds case will give me a little more room to use |
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<Foxx> |
DS case? |
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<Adnyxo> |
yea |
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<Foxx> |
instant fail |
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<Adnyxo> |
why is that |
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<Foxx> |
you dont rebuild a device to fit in the case of something else |
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<rkdavis> |
ok program uploaded for today now to look at gps's stuff |
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<Foxx> |
you dont put a square peg in a round hole |
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<Adnyxo> |
maybe i do |
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<Adnyxo> |
i have too much free time |
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<Foxx> |
all that free time will be used working on the case |
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<Adnyxo> |
exactly |
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<Foxx> |
you might as well make addons to the Z2 using common materials |
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<Foxx> |
like modeling plastics |
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<Foxx> |
google Safety Plastic |
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<Adnyxo> |
instead of watching bad sitcoms, eating potato chips and getting fat |
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<Foxx> |
or even make a mini vacuuform |
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<Foxx> |
or hell, get some automotive body filler (aka Bondo) and make something out of that |
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<Foxx> |
or even wood |
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<Adnyxo> |
well ogmious09 was giving me instructions to make a vacuform out of a shopvac and an oven, and i was thinking about a custom case |
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<Adnyxo> |
but i hate the way the zipit looks now |
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<Foxx> |
why? |
| [10:52:48] |
<Adnyxo> |
i dont really know |
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<Foxx> |
I have some very minor gripes about the keyboard, but not as many as my G1 phone |
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<Adnyxo> |
maybe ill just paint it black and be done with it |
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<Foxx> |
i prefer function over form |
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<Foxx> |
LED mods and paint are a waste of my time until I reach the final stages of prototyping |
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<Adnyxo> |
i do kinda sound like a hypocrite, bashing macs for being pretty and not functional |
| [10:53:57] |
<Foxx> |
hell, my prototypes look better than most peoples finished designs |
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<Foxx> |
give me a can of flat black, and im happy |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
oh, i still have to work on my Didj |
| [10:55:11] |
<Foxx> |
gah, too many things to hack!! |
| [10:55:17] |
<Foxx> |
and finish my WiFi Turmortron |
| [10:55:46] |
<Foxx> |
you want to see the most ghetto-tastic bluetooth headset dock? |
| [10:56:04] |
<Adnyxo> |
yes |
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<Foxx> |
http://68.160.211.89:3285/BT_Dock/IMG_0801.JPG |
| [10:56:38] |
<Foxx> |
maybe some day I will use glue, instead of heat shrink |
| [10:56:48] |
<Adnyxo> |
wow |
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<Adnyxo> |
thats nice |
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<Foxx> |
http://68.160.211.89:3285/BT_Dock/IMG_0802.JPG |
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<Foxx> |
hey, it works lol |
| [10:57:02] |
<Adnyxo> |
but hey it works |
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<Adnyxo> |
heh |
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<Foxx> |
its a fucking clothes pin |
| [10:57:12] |
<Foxx> |
lol |
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<Adnyxo> |
heh |
| [10:58:08] |
<Adnyxo> |
send me one of those dells lol |
| [10:58:16] |
<Adnyxo> |
hey i like the eyore sticker |
| [10:58:28] |
<Foxx> |
eh, thats my g/f's doing |
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<Foxx> |
no clue why |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
and woot will sell the Axim X51v for $60 now and again |
| [10:58:54] |
<Adnyxo> |
ill watch for it |
| [10:58:55] |
<Foxx> |
I have a hacked WinMobile 6.1 ROM on there and its VERY nice |
| [10:58:59] |
<Foxx> |
I did a segment on it |
| [10:59:02] |
<Foxx> |
on BSoD |
| [10:59:04] |
<Adnyxo> |
i love portable devices |
| [10:59:10] |
<Adnyxo> |
basically any kind |
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<Foxx> |
the axim is an HTC device, which is top notch, but being its dell, the default OS is crap |
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<Foxx> |
and I mean |
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<Foxx> |
CRAP |
| [10:59:46] |
<Adnyxo> |
awesome, i like htc |
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<Adnyxo> |
i want the nexus one |
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<Foxx> |
ibe got a few HTC Devices, I endorse HTC |
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<Foxx> |
they know WTF they are doing |
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<Foxx> |
ive got an HTC Touch Pro sitting here doing nothing |
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<Foxx> |
its CDMA, and I have GSM |
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<Foxx> |
my g/f doesnt care for it either |
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<Foxx> |
id give it to my friend, but he pissed me off recently |
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<Adnyxo> |
give that to me as well then |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
I wound up giving him like $5,000 worth ot tech... |
| [11:02:03] |
<Foxx> |
laptop, ham radio, wifi stuff |
| [11:02:04] |
<Adnyxo> |
oh what happened to listing all the stuff you have for sale |
| [11:02:09] |
<Foxx> |
he had NOTHING |
| [11:02:19] |
<Foxx> |
and all he does is chat with chicks online all night, and sleeps all day |
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<Adnyxo> |
damn i need to be your friend |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
im still making an inventory of my lab |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: you are too generous |
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<Foxx> |
rkdavis, I dont like to toss working tech |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: ok let me know when you bin it i'll go dumpster diving outside you house |
| [11:02:54] |
<Foxx> |
if someone can rebuild it, learn from the experience, and use it, then i am happy |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey ill do that |
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<Foxx> |
nothing hits the curb unless its really trash |
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<Adnyxo> |
well ill try to do the learning part |
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<Foxx> |
but let me know if you need anything |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: i like trash :) |
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<rkdavis> |
just ask the wife |
| [11:03:35] |
<Foxx> |
no man, I mean... trash |
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<Foxx> |
stuff thats mangled and burnt |
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<rkdavis> |
she is whining about the pile in the next room and she never even goes there |
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<Foxx> |
like PCBs ive stripped of parts, or taken a hacksaw to |
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<rkdavis> |
i just pulled in a bed frame and turned it into shelves for the kid |
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<Foxx> |
I do stuff like that too |
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<rkdavis> |
he now has 4 beds in his room and 3 of them are sheving |
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<Foxx> |
this lamp had one dead head |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/TechCrapGizmos#5329833900370082370 |
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<Foxx> |
so I put a biquad in its place |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh i was going to go out today to see about getting some thermal paste and a can of air but it's snowing and cold |
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<Foxx> |
nobody even realized it was a wifi antenna |
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<Mcavity_> |
happy tree friends? |
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<Foxx> |
yah |
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<Foxx> |
long story short: |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm looking for some nice wood and bolts to be binned next garbage day -- want to build a bike trainer |
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<Foxx> |
got the blanket for $5 on clearance, had a spare curtian hanger and a bare wall, tossed it up, we liked it, it stayed |
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<Foxx> |
plus I like Happy Tree Friends |
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<Mcavity_> |
Adnyxo you only get an hour out of the zipit battery? |
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<Mcavity_> |
they are disterbed. i like it.. though i also like invader zim. |
| [11:06:57] |
<Foxx> |
I have a very morbid sense of humor in general |
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<Foxx> |
I laugh at roadkill |
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<Gnuet> |
hehehe :D |
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<Gnuet> |
i like. |
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<Foxx> |
i took a pic of this cat that got hit by a car... |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: yup i thought he had a bad case of "not being able to tell the time" |
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<Foxx> |
and it was split open, and one eye was hanging out of the socket |
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<Foxx> |
I submitted it to LOL Cats and put the caption "OH NOES! Monorail cat derailed!" |
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<Foxx> |
they didnt like it too much |
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<LT[LC]> |
lol |
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<Mcavity_> |
Foxx heh |
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<Mcavity_> |
rkdavis yea maybe hes got a broken battery |
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<Foxx> |
im going to hit the shower, bbl |
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<rkdavis> |
http://gizmodo.com/5472859/even-kingston-knocks-off-kingston-microsd-cards |
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<Mcavity_> |
anybody heard of any real hacking done on the peek? |
| [11:20:03] |
<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: they tried to get people to port uclinux to it last year aroudn july (or maybe the year before) but no real hacking on it as far as i know |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: they have a blog about hacking on it somewhere -- geekypeek or something |
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<Mcavity_> |
sad. i picked one up for about 3 bucks just in case.. maybe someday it will be worthwile lol |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.geekypeek.com/?p=344 last year they asked but don't know the status |
| [11:25:27] |
<rkdavis> |
i keep looking at the peek but for real use it was not my thing -- i hate subscription fees |
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<rkdavis> |
even if i don't mind the price i want to just pay and forget -- none of this every month or year thing |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea |
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<rkdavis> |
the think i like about the peek is i like the formfactor |
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<rkdavis> |
half the time my zipit is flat |
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<rkdavis> |
if it had wifi and 3g and you could use either or then i might actually use one even if it was just email and they have expanded it to browsing etc now |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea looking and it looks kind of stalled out on the hack side for the peek |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll wait for the Z5000 in about 5 years :) the one with hdmi output, n wireless and that does the dishes too |
| [11:31:45] |
<Mcavity_> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm do i really want to spend 16 to 20 on a little dongley thing or do i want to not bother? |
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<Mcavity_> |
dongly thing? |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.ably.com.tw/pdt/pdtlist.asp?cat=Others |
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<rkdavis> |
the top two items |
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<rkdavis> |
the top one is 16.35 |
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<rkdavis> |
and the second one is 22.35 |
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<rkdavis> |
could be handy but do i want to spend money on handy or not |
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<rkdavis> |
and how easy would it be to make my own? |
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<Mcavity_> |
good question . it does look handy if you can fit it into the case |
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<Gnuet> |
i use PA-TFC1 on a 'puter. |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: two look like for external the 3rd looks like for inside the case but then you'd not be able to removve the sd card easily |
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<rkdavis> |
the second looks like you can bend it underneath the case |
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<Mcavity_> |
might be able to bend it and slide it into the battery compartment? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup but then again how much would it cost to actually make one yourself? probably about $5 mac if you can get the two adapters |
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<rkdavis> |
s/mac/max |
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<Mcavity_> |
one day ill have good spot to work on som eof this stuff |
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<Mcavity_> |
im excited about the usb posability though. if that gets working.. ill find some space to work lol.. and maybe get a real soldering iron |
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<Adnyxo> |
<rkdavis> Mcavity_: yup i thought he had a bad case of "not being able to tell the time" |
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<Adnyxo> |
no, i was playing youtube videos for part of it |
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<Adnyxo> |
just browsing gets me about 2.5 hrs |
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<rkdavis> |
that's still pretty low |
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<Adnyxo> |
but sometimes the battery seems to die randomly when ive been charging it for what should have been long enough (2 hrs)\ |
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<rkdavis> |
do you use any of the power management functions in the rootfs? |
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<Adnyxo> |
yea |
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<Adnyxo> |
defaults on jags |
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<rkdavis> |
tweaking a bit might help -- mcavity knows better iirc but turning off the internal speaker if you don't use it helps alot |
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<Adnyxo> |
ok ill do that |
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<Irongeek> |
Hi all, any idea when the next version of rootnexus will come out? |
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<Adnyxo> |
nope |
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<Irongeek> |
Okey dokey. Thanks. |
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<Mcavity_> |
Adnyxo i charge for more than 2 huors i usualy charge for at least 4-5 and i get 5-6 hours if im just using simple stuff. |
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<Mcavity_> |
i should do a time trial with quake |
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<Mcavity_> |
ill do it as i sleep |
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<Adnyxo> |
0o |
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<Mcavity_> |
runing quake in timedemo as i sleep with htop in a telnet window |
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<Mcavity_> |
when i wake up the telnet window will tell me how long it lived =) |
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<Mcavity_> |
1005 cpu 18 of 28 megs memory used and 7 megs swap file used. |
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<Adnyxo> |
ah ok |
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<Adnyxo> |
that would be nice |
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<Mcavity_> |
100% cpu that is. |
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<Mcavity_> |
should give a good basel line of under load. |
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<Mcavity_> |
just runnin gIM and irc gets me 5.5 hours. |
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<Mcavity_> |
heh this also has sound running so that will eat more juice. |
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<Mcavity_> |
but kb leds are off and screen is dimed |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok sleep time.. ill post the results when i wake up |
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<Adnyxo> |
kk gnite |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey foxx would it be possible to add a touch screen digitizer over the current zipit screen to be used with the stylus? |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey foxx are you tired of me asking questions? |
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<dTal> |
aw dude /sys/class/power_supply/Z2/ is way better than /proc/apm |
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<dTal> |
probably hack up a better battery indicator from that |
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<dTal> |
cuz the current ones on any of the userlands are pretty crap at predicting life |
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<dTal> |
but you could make one that checked the raw voltage and took everything into account, like backlights and load average |
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<Adnyxo> |
sorry about that flybackER |
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<Adnyxo> |
is the zipit supposed to be on when you charge it? |
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<dTal> |
doesn't matter, but it comes on by itself if you plug it in |
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<Adnyxo> |
yea i noticed |
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<dTal> |
des: falky internet? |
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<dTal> |
*flaky |
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<Webhostbudd> |
dTal, would you mind explaining how you got the 80 column terminal. I can't seem to find a font small enough or any good documentation |
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<dTal> |
What userland you on? |
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<dTal> |
Debian sid based? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
the rootnexus one |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ive got kbd and console-setup |
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<Webhostbudd> |
been messing around with console setup but i could only get a 12x6 terminus font |
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<dTal> |
You don't need to use anything except setfont |
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<dTal> |
and you need a 4x6 font |
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<Webhostbudd> |
what did you do? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<Webhostbudd> |
where can i get the font |
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<dTal> |
rkdavis linked me to one, I forget where |
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<rkdavis> |
the jpimble one? |
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<dTal> |
that's it |
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<rkdavis> |
http://japi.dddgames.com/~jpimble/zipit/ |
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<Webhostbudd> |
aweosme |
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<Webhostbudd> |
thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
yw |
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<dTal> |
much better innit? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
looks a ton better, its just a little pixelated |
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<dTal> |
wheb you reboot, it'll back to the way it was before, might want a script or something |
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<dTal> |
when I get my framebuffer interface working, I'll put an antialiased terminal in there |
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<dTal> |
nothing stopping anyone from using fbterm now, but it gets in the way of using the framebuffer for other things |
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<dTal> |
do we have raw control over any of the pads on the pcb i.e. are the gpios or some such |
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<dTal> |
? |
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<dTal> |
I've just been struck by a notion to hack a vibrator into it |
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<dTal> |
for pocket alerts |
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<rkdavis> |
a likely story |
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<rkdavis> |
pocket alerts is a euphamism for what? |
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<dTal> |
you know, when someone send you an IM or something |
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<rkdavis> |
yes ok i believe you :) |
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<dTal> |
but seriously, what kind of raw IO do we have? |
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<rkdavis> |
got i2c in the rear |
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<dTal> |
isn't that an audio codec? |
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<rkdavis> |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C2%B2C |
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<dTal> |
yeah I'm there |
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<rkdavis> |
k |
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<dTal> |
interesting |
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<dTal> |
and what can be turned off to save power besides backlights? |
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<dTal> |
heard something about wifi |
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<Webhostbudd> |
you could lower the rx and tx rates possibly |
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<Adnyxo> |
so |
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<Aelius> |
indeed |
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<Adnyxo> |
quite |
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<dTal> |
so I just echoed 128 as my backlight brightness, and it turned completely off |
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<Aelius> |
lol |
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<dTal> |
That's not right, is it? |
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<dTal> |
I thought I'd successfully done that before |
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<Aelius> |
I don't think so, but I can't tell you what's wrong |
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<dTal> |
Fortunately, the last command I'd entered on that screen window was another brightness command, so a quick blind browse through the command history brought me back |
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<dTal> |
funny, the screen seems more dazzling when it's dimmer |
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<dTal> |
lower contrast maybe |
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<dTal> |
huh, works for keyboard backlight |
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<dTal> |
though it makes sod all difference |
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<Adnyxo> |
i dont even use the keyboard backlight |
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<dTal> |
helpful in the dark |
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<Mcavity_> |
humm |
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<Mcavity_> |
htop says zipit lasted 5 hours 46 min |
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<Mcavity_> |
dtal besides backlights you want to tuer off the pc speaker.. in root nexius it defaults off |
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<dTal> |
just an alsamixer thing yeah? |
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<dTal> |
that actually saves power? |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea |
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<Mcavity_> |
in aliosa27 it would get me an extra 30-45 min |
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<dTal> |
neat, ta ft tip |
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<Mcavity_> |
i tried it becouse i could always hear a bit of a hum from the speaker |
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<Mcavity_> |
tiny amp still has to draw juice |
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<Mcavity_> |
now im wondering if something killed quake.. beouse that just seems like a long time. i dunno |
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