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<dTal> |
soooo, my build failed with a cryptic and unhelpful error |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: so that adapter did work after all? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Yes, I think the 4Gb SD card I had RootNexus on died, I wiped and rebuilt the partitions with GParted and got a bunch of errors when I untarred the image again and it wouldn't boot into the SD. It's not been written to that often, it was too big for my phone and it's been sitting ever since. just 3 generations of overwritting jag and the few files and apps I added. Had a jump drive that died that way after about a month once. |
| [12:03:27] |
<FiftyOneFifty> |
Just a coincidence the card went bad the same time I broke the AC adapter. ZipItWireless was real cool, said they think they can cancel the order for the new adapter, not even a warning that a repaired adapter would violate warranty. |
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<rkdavis> |
well the errors could have been from the tar line |
| [12:04:05] |
<rkdavis> |
most people forget the -C which actually shouldn't be but does seem to be very important (and doing it as root of course is pretty important too) |
| [12:05:10] |
<rkdavis> |
if the adaper plug does seem to be the nearest fit that works should should probably add that into to the wiki at linux.zipitwireless.com |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I was root. i did it the same way as before but I haven't been using the -C (used Jag's instructions, when you see him you might ask him about re-adding the instructions to the download page). I keep seeing Shangrily pop in and I think he came in after them instructions went away with the old build. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Good idea about the wiki, I think when I am in WalMart today I'll also get one of those clearance car adapters i saw and check the voltage and amps and polarity. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
The RS plug doesn't fit as tight as I would like but it seems to work. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the power socket seems to be one of those ones where they stook a standard size then mucked it up by adding/deleting or changing it somehow |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: tar -C <change directory ?> Does that set target directory? I untar from within the mounted SD "machine:/media/disk> tar xvjf <Path2tarball>" |
| [12:19:57] |
<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: I've been doing rm -rf * on the Ext3 volume on the SD first |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: the /normal/ way is to |
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<rkdavis> |
tar -xjvf pathtotarball -C pathto sdcardmounted |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Ok, that would make more sense, thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e if the tarball is called rootfs.tar.bz2 and the sd card is mounted on /media/sdcar then |
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<rkdavis> |
tar -xjvf ./rootfs.tar.bz2 -C /media/sdcard |
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<rkdavis> |
some people with varying levels of success also add the -p option too but if you do it as root then you really don't need too |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I've run into the odd power connector before. A school I have as a customer used to insist on taking everything out of every room in the summer and setting it in the hallway to clean. Guess who had to match wall worts to network equipment and speakers every fall. One had and oversized center plug and I never did match it to power again. |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Thanks for the detail on the tar switches, I'll try that. |
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<rkdavis> |
actually let me put the whole command line in (on debian/ubuntu.... based distros) then |
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<rkdavis> |
sudo tar -xjvf rootfs.tar.gz -C /media/sdcard |
| [12:27:08] |
<rkdavis> |
i have a box of about 500 power plugs i went through them one day and apart from the multivoltage adapters not a single one was the same plug |
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<rkdavis> |
out of 400 non-multi things i had 400 different plugs |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I'm not surprised. I tried to help that Shangrily guy on his YouTube page but with my lack of economy for words I couldn't fit into 2 posts. Tried to delete and repost but YouTube wouldn't let me because it thinks I'm a spammer/stalker |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Back later today, got to go do what I'm supposed to be doing. |
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<dTal> |
grrr |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: ? |
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<rkdavis> |
failed compile? |
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<dTal> |
yeah |
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<dTal> |
and it's some weird error |
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<dTal> |
http://pastebin.org/91111 |
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<rkdavis> |
what's the error? |
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<rkdavis> |
linking error for a start |
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<rkdavis> |
probably missing a lib although normally it'd tell you which one |
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<dTal> |
yeah, it's not a helpful error |
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<rkdavis> |
can you build it without the tests? |
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<rkdavis> |
and demos? |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e. turn them off in the configure |
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<dTal> |
I'm using dpkg-packagebuild, I'd have to use debian/rules |
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<dTal> |
would that start the compile all over? |
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<rkdavis> |
well not for the libs as long as it doesn't clean them out |
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<rkdavis> |
but probably will do that |
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<rkdavis> |
can't go into the dir and try it manually first? |
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<dTal> |
well, when the compile died from a segfault a few times, I restarted it, an d |
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<dTal> |
it continued |
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<Foxx> |
anyone here with any WinCE experience willing to give me a hand? |
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<dTal> |
but a different config, I dunno |
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<Foxx> |
ive been hacking away at this WinCE GPS I have, and id like activesync on it so I can have a USB Network Bridge |
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<Foxx> |
it has no wifi or bluetooth |
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<Foxx> |
and im not sure if it supports SDIO |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: old wince expetience for 3/4 days but whats the prob? |
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<Foxx> |
just looking for an activesync installer .cab right now |
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<Foxx> |
the device doesnt have activesync on it |
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<rkdavis> |
they existed |
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<rkdavis> |
so you need a cab extraxters |
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<rkdavis> |
and the cab for activesysnc? |
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<Foxx> |
no, i need the .cab itself |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
i did have one but it's from yeahs ago |
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<Foxx> |
I can install from .cab natively on the device no problem |
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<Foxx> |
ill take it |
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<Foxx> |
better then nothing |
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<rkdavis> |
er try looking in the axim or be300 forums |
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<rkdavis> |
let me see if i can find it -- it shoudld be on a cd |
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<Foxx> |
eh, i was hoping not to have to bog through the PDA, HTC, Mobile hackign forums |
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<Foxx> |
its a major pain in the ass |
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<Foxx> |
floods of the same stupid questions and "use the search feature/google" replies |
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<Foxx> |
ive been looking, found some links, but they were all dead |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.filecrop.com/activesync.cab.html try there while i look for it |
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<Foxx> |
mmm, not finding it |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll keep looking, unfortunatly if i still do have it it's on 1 or 2000 unlabeled cd's :) |
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<Foxx> |
well let me know if you come across it |
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<rkdavis> |
there is a way to get the cab file from the activesync install though iirc -- an msi extractor iirc |
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<Foxx> |
but i need it installed on the device |
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<Foxx> |
I have it on the PC already |
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<Foxx> |
ive poked around the filesystem, its just not installed |
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<Foxx> |
if I can just get that installed and use it to get the device on my network I can use it for media, IM, and other small side tasks |
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<Foxx> |
I even got some emulation going, but no controller |
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<rkdavis> |
ok 20 disks down 1980 to go |
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<Foxx> |
you should catalog them |
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<Foxx> |
or even make QR codes to scan and read the contents |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis |
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<jagsph> |
do you have any new information on the z2 rear port? |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph: new information? |
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<jagsph> |
I want to know everything you know about its uses. |
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<rkdavis> |
read the wikipage on it then |
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<rkdavis> |
that's all the info there is |
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<rkdavis> |
btw aliosa27 emailed you about meging your rootfs? |
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<jagsph> |
url? |
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<rkdavis> |
the only change about the rear port that could possibly classed as new is that gpsfan is the genius i think he is and luck is with us usb host might be available soon |
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<rkdavis> |
http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/hardware/wiki/ExpansionConnector |
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<jagsph> |
i hope thats not in yoru bookmarks... its gone |
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<rkdavis> |
no it isn't |
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<rkdavis> |
you are not signed in |
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<rkdavis> |
no info unless you are registered on the wiki |
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<jagsph> |
I never signed up. |
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<rkdavis> |
so no info for you |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis: this may sound a little elementary, but can i hook a usb hub to this just like i would a stanard mainboard using that pinout? |
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<rkdavis> |
no atm it's only usb client so a hub has no meaning to it |
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<rkdavis> |
if gpsfan is successful then you'd build a rear connector cable and hook up the usb to a powered hub |
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<rkdavis> |
better buy some rear connectors though pretty soon, looks like they are getting rarer |
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<jagsph> |
12 VBUS USB Charge Input Voltage <--- also can this be used as a charging interface via usb? |
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<rkdavis> |
last time i looke ddigikey only had 350 of them |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph: i think so |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis: what are the rear connectors being called |
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<rkdavis> |
ok the same page as the pinouts |
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<jagsph> |
i see it. :) |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll have to hope that the wife or kid have some spare cash on tuesday to order a few more as i'm brasic this month |
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<rkdavis> |
just had to get refills on my meds -- over $700 but 4 types of pill :( at least it;s only 4 times a year |
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<jagsph> |
you need to get off the mcdonalds diet and take some natural remedies... |
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<rkdavis> |
heh not those types of meds and last time i had a burger was a homemade one 6 months ago |
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<rkdavis> |
i haven't had afast food burger in 4 years |
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<jagsph> |
heh cant undo the damage in 4 years? |
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<rkdavis> |
never really a big fastfood eater anyway but i have to be care what pills i take, can't have nsaid painkillers for a start |
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<rkdavis> |
because i have ulcer syndrome |
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<rkdavis> |
and have no muscles in my abdomen as they were sliced away |
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<rkdavis> |
and have to take 3 types of bacteria everyday |
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<jagsph> |
do you have aids? |
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<rkdavis> |
as i'm on anti-biotics for life |
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<rkdavis> |
nope i had a thing called a meckels |
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<rkdavis> |
but they had to remove everything that can be removed safely |
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<rkdavis> |
so i have to take anitbiotics allt he time as i am succesible to bugs as my body can't support the good ones then i have to replace them everyday because they die in me because of the anti-biotics |
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<rkdavis> |
it's a catch 22 |
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<jagsph> |
2% of the population. ive never heard of it before. so you couldnt do a #2 |
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<jagsph> |
so that means you have constant diarrhea with a colostomy bag |
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<jagsph> |
? |
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<rkdavis> |
nope a meckels is actually a second stomach, normally diagnoed by age 6 but a small percentage don't get spotted but i had ulcer symdrome and it perferated so when they were treatign that it wasn't working |
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<rkdavis> |
nope nothing like that |
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<rkdavis> |
i just have too much acid much too much |
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<rkdavis> |
so i need to take antacids all the time and bateria pills but also antibiotics |
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<jagsph> |
ah. i was actually referring to taking the antibiotics... |
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<rkdavis> |
nope i am used to them |
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<rkdavis> |
don't have that effect any more |
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<jagsph> |
thats horrible. |
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<jagsph> |
you should collect ssi and work under the table. |
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<rkdavis> |
i spent over 140 days in hospital in 2007 while they diagnosed me, was in 3 hospitals and they kept trying to treat the wrong thing |
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<jagsph> |
should have called house |
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<rkdavis> |
one hospital wanted to remove half my stomasch and another wanted to kill me :) |
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<rkdavis> |
yup my surgeon was like house took him a while to find it but wrote a 300 page paper on me as i was very rare case and hard to diagnose |
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<jagsph> |
euthanasia |
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<rkdavis> |
nope not euthansia but the op they wanted to do would have killed me, would have been like stapling tissue paper to a cardbard tube |
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<rkdavis> |
never going to work |
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<rkdavis> |
luckily my surgeon put his foot down to the cheif of surgery -- ok they fired him over it but he stopped them from killing ke |
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<jagsph> |
good. can you be physically active with your condition? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes |
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<rkdavis> |
just need to not do anything stupid |
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<jagsph> |
no wet-nursing needed heh |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
it's pretty easy to manage except i rattle when i walk because of all the pills and the fact they cost a fortune |
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<jagsph> |
keep a gun handy for when u become immobile |
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<rkdavis> |
yes it'll be fun to shoot people from the top of a bell tower |
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<jagsph> |
make sure you get Barrack Osama if you do that |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<zmef> |
hey all, i am trying to boot from sd card according to directions from rayhaque.blogspot.com |
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<zmef> |
and it only works occasionally |
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<zmef> |
any thoughts, comments, nasty remarks? |
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<rkdavis> |
zmef: could be too xlow an sd card |
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<rkdavis> |
zmef: does it work if it goes to the stock app and you do a reset defaults in the stock app and reboot? |
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<zmef> |
ill try |
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<zmef> |
also, it's a micro sd in mini adapter, could that cuse problems? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
possibly |
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<rkdavis> |
make sure the card is really into it and that the mini adapter is seated well |
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<rkdavis> |
do you have a linux box? |
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<zmef> |
yeah |
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<rkdavis> |
ok a good test is to run hdparm on the sdcard |
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<zmef> |
wait, it's booting! |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<zmef> |
thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
you might want to test the card using hdparm anyway -- handy to have a list of known working cards and their speeds |
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<Mcavity> |
first boot from a new install tnds to be a bit slow.. but after that i find its better |
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<zmef> |
stuck obtaining ip addy |
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<Mcavity> |
heh wish d/ling files was a bit faster |
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<rkdavis> |
zmef: you are using iz2s? |
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<zmef> |
yes |
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<rkdavis> |
ok then you probably didn't enter the wifi info correctly |
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<zmef> |
i skipped it |
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<rkdavis> |
or it glitched |
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<zmef> |
i can just use iwcinfig later right? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok then it won't get a lease |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
although wpa_supplicant is more stable |
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<zmef> |
what about a gui |
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<zmef> |
startx? |
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<zmef> |
:-) |
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<rkdavis> |
no gui unless you want to /borrow/ part of the script i use |
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<rkdavis> |
no X in iz2s |
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<zmef> |
bah, i don't NEED it |
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<zmef> |
just wondered |
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<rkdavis> |
in theeory it's possible but noone has bothered in iz2s |
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<rkdavis> |
in the debian rootfs you have x but it requires a kernel upgrade |
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<zmef> |
i didn't have much luck with rootnexus |
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<zmef> |
didn't try to much really |
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<zmef> |
booting from sd seemed so much easier |
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<rkdavis> |
well unless you upgraded the kernel you wouldn't have much luck :) |
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<rkdavis> |
but yes to just use the zipit with minimum of fuss iz2s will cover most ppls needs |
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<zmef> |
links -g is sideways and halfway off screen |
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<rkdavis> |
zmef: links [url] -g --dfb:later-rotate=90 |
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<rkdavis> |
so for google |
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<rkdavis> |
links google.com -g --dfb:layer-rotate=90 --dfb:no-cursor |
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<dTal> |
okay, so it turns out my SD was full |
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<dTal> |
and that MAY have been the cause of the failed build |
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<dTal> |
but this one, which I thought was faster, is segfaulting way more |
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<theubermensche> |
Does the write speed of the sd card make a difference? |
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<dTal> |
It seems to. |
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<theubermensche> |
Is 8gb really the limit? |
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<dTal> |
Okay, it was the space situation on the SD. |
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<dTal> |
But boy, it really is segfaulting a lot now. |
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<dTal> |
But only when I use other apps. |
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<Polt> |
hello |
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<Adnyxo> |
so i was thinking |
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<Adnyxo> |
which is not something i do often |
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<Adnyxo> |
but i was looking at my old gbc and my zipit next to each other and it looked like the zipit could fit in the casing |
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<Adnyxo> |
maybe |
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<Adnyxo> |
that would give it more of a "peek" device feel |
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<Mcavity> |
well bit of news.. a samsung a600 cell phone car charger seem to work withthe zipit |
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