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<Mcavity> |
I should make a better whs system sometime |
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<Pabilo> |
hi there |
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<Pabilo> |
it's almost perfect :) |
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<Pabilo> |
Use the zipit to connect to a vpn to controle the servers :D |
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<Pabilo> |
het is still aan de overkant |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<Mcavity> |
hi hi |
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<dTal> |
hi rkdavis |
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<dTal> |
I found a post from you discussing framebuffer rotation |
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<dTal> |
you had to edit source to make links work? |
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<dTal> |
oh no, that was Ray Haque |
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<dTal> |
yours was a different one |
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<dTal> |
lot of zipit activity in the directfb mailing lists |
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<N|ght^> |
does anyone know if you can run openvpn on the zipit? |
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<N|ght^> |
or any vpn client for that manner? |
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<p0S|-|> |
i'd be suprised |
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<p0S|-|> |
given that the chip is 315mhz |
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<Mcavity> |
actualy you should be able to. |
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<Mcavity> |
i ran rdp.. but i didnt get a virtual screne right lol |
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<Mcavity> |
[all my windows on my desktop resized to 320x240 hehe |
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<N|ght^> |
I was looking for it to do command line stuff |
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<Mcavity> |
just ssh |
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<N|ght^> |
So VPN into a network, and then SSH into servers |
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<N|ght^> |
right |
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<Mcavity> |
or telnet =) |
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<Mcavity> |
that should work fine |
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<p0S|-|> |
has anyone bought their zipit from target? |
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<Mcavity> |
i did |
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<p0S|-|> |
do they do ship to store? |
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<Mcavity> |
but it was when they had them on sale.. dont think they carry them in store any more |
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<p0S|-|> |
is there another hardware revision on the horizon you think? |
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<p0S|-|> |
yeah they dont have in store |
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<p0S|-|> |
online only |
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<p0S|-|> |
idk if they do ship to store or not |
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<dTal> |
is the zipit still even in production? |
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<Mcavity> |
talk to rkdavis hes a dealer now =) |
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<N|ght^> |
alright, so when I tried to get openvpn working, I get this error: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev dynamically |
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<N|ght^> |
after some searching, it sounds like that particular module might not be compiled into the kernel release |
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<N|ght^> |
so can I recompile the kernel right on the zipit, or is there more to it then that? |
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<dTal> |
N|ght^: no, you'd have to reflash it |
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<p0S|-|> |
heh |
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<p0S|-|> |
idk if i should get one or not |
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<p0S|-|> |
it's interesting to me but |
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<p0S|-|> |
would be nice if it had more ram/cpu |
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<Mcavity> |
its a hacked toy.. its impressive what it gets done but no its not a full pc =) |
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<dTal> |
you can say that about any machine :) |
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<Mcavity> |
unless your thinking about year 2000 |
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<dTal> |
not a full pc? I beg to differ - the only difference is quantitative |
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<N|ght^> |
thus far, there's only a few programs that I haven't been able to get running... other than that, I would say it's a VERY trimmed-down PC |
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<Mcavity> |
well yea =) you can do quite a bit in 32 megs of memory =) |
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<dTal> |
640k is all anyone should ever need |
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<N|ght^> |
but for only $40-50, it's probably the least amount I've spent on something that can do as much as the zipit can do |
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<N|ght^> |
it's worth it |
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<Mcavity> |
its a fun thing to play with.. and hey it plays quake =) |
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<Mcavity> |
and doom |
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<N|ght^> |
and roms, and it does irc, and you can browse the web |
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<N|ght^> |
and more... |
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<N|ght^> |
I got apache running on it |
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<dTal> |
It's way better with debian sid and an 80 column terminal |
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<dTal> |
nothing's not worked yet |
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<N|ght^> |
the only 2 things are openvpn and iptables |
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<N|ght^> |
I can't get those 2 to work |
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<N|ght^> |
and to the best I've my knowledge, it's missing modules that need to be compiled into the kernel to get them to work |
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<dTal> |
modules don't need to be compiled in |
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<N|ght^> |
and when I say it's missing, I'm referring to the rootnexus and aliosa27 images |
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<dTal> |
that's why they're modules |
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<N|ght^> |
maybe modules was not the right term to use |
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<N|ght^> |
packages? |
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<dTal> |
I don't follow |
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<dTal> |
modules can be added to a running kernel with modprobe |
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<dTal> |
so there shouldn't be anything you need to recompile for |
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<N|ght^> |
so I get this error for iptables: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. |
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<N|ght^> |
iptables: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) |
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<N|ght^> |
and it's been a few days since I searched, but what I found is that the image is missing the netfilter package, which needs to be compiled into the kernel |
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<N|ght^> |
maybe I'm wrong? |
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<dTal> |
modprobe iptables ? |
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<dTal> |
I imagine it depends heavily on your distribution |
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<p0S|-|> |
yeah unless it's all modular you'll need to compile it in |
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<p0S|-|> |
modprobe -l | grep ip_tables |
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<dTal> |
p0S|-|: I'm sure there will be a kernel module for it |
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<p0S|-|> |
the nat module it |
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<p0S|-|> |
iptable_nat |
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<p0S|-|> |
kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.ko |
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<p0S|-|> |
kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_nat.ko |
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<p0S|-|> |
(netfilter) |
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<N|ght^> |
oh so you actually do see it in there? |
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<p0S|-|> |
uh |
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<p0S|-|> |
that's on another linux box |
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<N|ght^> |
ah |
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<N|ght^> |
I gotcha |
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<p0S|-|> |
but the modules would be the same |
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<p0S|-|> |
i'm just saying do a modprobe -l on the zipit |
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<p0S|-|> |
and see what's already compiled as modules |
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<p0S|-|> |
probably barely anything |
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<p0S|-|> |
to keep the rom small |
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<rkdavis> |
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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<rkdavis> |
24 hours i have been working trying to solve a bash script error |
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<rkdavis> |
24 bloody hours and the fricking error waqs not in my if/then part but a bloody bracket round sleep |
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<LT[LC]> |
lol |
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<LT[LC]> |
it happens |
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<rkdavis> |
drove me and about 3 people nuts because i thought the error was in the if statement and the test for equality but noooooooo it was in the case statement 3 lines down |
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<rkdavis> |
and not even that -- i wrote sleep(5) rather than sleep 5 |
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<rkdavis> |
i need putting out to pasture i've just lost it |
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* |
muriani kicks rkdavis out to pasture |
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<muriani> |
go graze a bit. |
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<rkdavis> |
i was ready to punch someone over it -- the next person through the door was getting a punch in the face just on G.P. over it |
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<Mcavity> |
hate tring to find paperwork for taxes |
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<Pabilo> |
i saw a message from N|ght^ about vpn |
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<Pabilo> |
I have vpnc working on a zipit |
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<Pabilo> |
apt-get install vpnc |
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<p0S|-|> |
what's vpnc |
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<p0S|-|> |
vnc? |
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<muriani> |
vpn client? |
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<muriani> |
vpnc - client for cisco vpn concentrator |
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<muriani> |
http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ |
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<p0S|-|> |
oh |
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<p0S|-|> |
oh pn |
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<p0S|-|> |
heh |
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<N|ght^> |
that's cool vpnc works |
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<N|ght^> |
but I need a vpn client that supports SSL/TLS client/server certificates |
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<N|ght^> |
vpnc doesn't offer that at the moment |
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<Stiq> |
taregt no longer sells zipit in there stores, only online |
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<Stiq> |
wack |
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<muriani> |
yeah, in-store stock is pretty much exhausted I think |
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<dTal> |
jagsph: I've been playing with your userland |
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<dTal> |
apt is not happy about having both debian and emdebian sources |
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<dTal> |
(since it considers emdebian higher priority, installing things not in emdebian with lots of dependencies fails |
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<dTal> |
I've used apt-pin to switch the priorities, and now stuff installs |
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<dTal> |
but it's pulling in a lot of regular debian stuff, and all of it is from sid of course, so I'm not sure if it's all going to be borked after it finishe |
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<muriani> |
heh |
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<dTal> |
nearly there |
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<dTal> |
if this works it'll be very cool |
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<dTal> |
I think a large number of existing apps can be made to work on the framebuffer |
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<dTal> |
there are very few pure X apps around, because X is a bitch |
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<dTal> |
whaaaat |
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<dTal> |
(!) DirectFB/Config 'layer-rotate': Only 0 and 180 supported yet! |
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<dTal> |
ah, directfb version not quite good enough even in sid |
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<dTal> |
time to add... |
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<dTal> |
the experimental repositories! |
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dTal carefully pins experimental at 50 to prevent accidents |
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<dTal> |
The question is... does the newer libdirectfb also depend on stuff in experimental? |
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<rkdavis> |
what version of directfb is it btw? |
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<rkdavis> |
the layer rotate stuff is only in.30 ad newer so if it's older than that you might have probs |
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<dTal> |
1.28 in sid, 1.40 in experimental |
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<dTal> |
it isn't happy about overwriting the existing one without removing it - someone should put "conflicts" on that experimental package |
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<dTal> |
for now I'm doing it manually with dpkg |
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<dTal> |
oh no it didn't like that |
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<dTal> |
seems some apps specifically want THAT version and no other |
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<dTal> |
not sure what to do know |
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<dTal> |
*now |
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<dTal> |
ah, I know |
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<dTal> |
I'll recompile the various programs against the new directfb |
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<dTal> |
with deb-source |
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<dTal> |
this is getting heavy |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<dTal> |
still, no endian problems or anything still |
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<dTal> |
just regular debian crap |
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<rkdavis> |
well you don't install the right things :) |
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<rkdavis> |
and they might have fixed at least some of them. people will be pissed if they can't run their trsdos apps on their embedded devices |
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<dTal> |
well this *is* sid |
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<dTal> |
libcairo2 |
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<dTal> |
libdirectfb-dev |
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<dTal> |
libdirectfb-extra |
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<dTal> |
libgtk-directfb-2.0-0 |
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<dTal> |
links2 |
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<dTal> |
mplayer |
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<dTal> |
these are all the directfb deps |
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<dTal> |
now, I dont need any particularly advanced versions of these programs and libraries, do I? |
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<dTal> |
Just grab the source and the build-deps and build with the new directfb (and its developer library) installed |
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<dTal> |
it's a bit of a pity that only aptitude can resolve the dependency issues created by pinning something higher than something with a higher version number, that's already installed. |
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<dTal> |
apt-get seems to be lighter. |
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<rkdavis> |
anyone has a desktop linux that has wifi and wireless-tools installed? i want to check if a newer version outputs soething i am expecting it to that the zipits version does't |
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<rkdavis> |
trying to write a script to ask for passphrase/key automatically depending on output from iwlist but it looks like the version we ave don't work right |
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<dTal> |
what's missing, rkdavis? |
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<rkdavis> |
apparently if the ap is wpa there is another line |
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<rkdavis> |
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402284 |
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<rkdavis> |
apparently there is a line that lets you tell it is wpa rather than ope or wep |
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<rkdavis> |
we have some ie lines but the don't look like that and are pretty similar for regex'ab;le stuff to be useless |
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<dTal> |
mine tells me, and I'm on a zipit |
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<dTal> |
I mean, there's "encryption key" on or off which tells if it's open or not |
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<dTal> |
and then lower down there's "IE: WPA Version 1" |
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<dTal> |
among other things about tkip and such |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm mine doesn't |
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<rkdavis> |
no ie line |
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<dTal> |
huh |
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<dTal> |
score 1 for debian :p |
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<rkdavis> |
no line that says ie on it |
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<rkdavis> |
nope i'll just recompile |
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<rkdavis> |
what version do you have |
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<dTal> |
version of what? |
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<rkdavis> |
iwlist? |
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<rkdavis> |
iwlist --version |
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<dTal> |
OpenZipIt:/home/user# iwlist --version |
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<dTal> |
iwlist Wireless-Tools version 30 Compatible with Wireless Extension v11 to v22. |
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<dTal> |
Kernel Currently compiled with Wireless Extension v22. |
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<dTal> |
eth1 Recommend Wireless Extension v15 or later, Currently compiled with Wireless Extension v22. |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm weird, same ver here too |
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<rkdavis> |
wonder why i don't get that line then |
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<rkdavis> |
probably the kernel |
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<Webhostbudd> |
would anyone mind telling me what key you need to press the change the brightness of the screen |
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<Webhostbudd> |
it seems insanely bright |
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<marex> |
Webhostbudd, no idea...I use sysfs directly |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright then |
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<Webhostbudd> |
just one other question, how would i go about getting the wifi drivers working |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ive got gspi8686.bin and gspi8686_hlp.bin in the /lib/firmware/libertas forlder |
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<Webhostbudd> |
folder |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ifconfig and iwconfig show nothing though |
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<marex> |
ifconfig -a |
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<marex> |
dmesg | grep 8686 ... or ... dmesg | grep -i libertas |
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<marex> |
does it show anything ? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
one moment |
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<marex> |
use pastebin |
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<Webhostbudd> |
o yea, how do i do the | special char |
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<marex> |
no idea, I have serial console soldered ... |
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<Webhostbudd> |
o |
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<Webhostbudd> |
haha |
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<Webhostbudd> |
that would make life easier |
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<marex> |
hm actually no ... Magon has the one with serial console, I have two other without one here ... hmm |
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<Webhostbudd> |
well |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ifconfig just shows the loopback interface |
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<marex> |
it was something like Meta-W or something |
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<marex> |
hm ... ifconfig -a as well ? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<marex> |
anything in dmesg ? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
thats the issue |
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<Webhostbudd> |
i have no way to look through it without grep |
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<marex> |
dmesg | less |
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<Webhostbudd> |
again |
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<Webhostbudd> |
| |
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<marex> |
try meta-W or something ... |
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<marex> |
I have no idea what keymap you use ... I have totally different setup on my Z2 ... |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright |
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<Webhostbudd> |
my keymap is just the default rc2 one |
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<marex> |
what's rc2 ? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
well |
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<Webhostbudd> |
the rootnexus image |
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<marex> |
I told you ... I have my own setup on Z2 ... I'm out of loop here |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<marex> |
Webhostbudd, well ... try some of the key combinations ... |
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<marex> |
or if you can do the '>' character ... try dmesg > tmp and ... less tmp |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright |
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<Webhostbudd> |
interesting error |
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<Webhostbudd> |
libertas_spi spi1.0: firmware: requesting libertas/gspi8686.bin |
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<Webhostbudd> |
libertas: if_spi_prog_main_firmware: timed out waiting for inital scratch reg = 0 |
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<marex> |
you misnamed it or hotplug isnt running |
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<marex> |
ah ... |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea? |
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<marex> |
no ... |
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<Webhostbudd> |
libertas: failed to load firmware (err=-110) |
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<marex> |
SPR isn't zero, it's like the BBMAC wasn't properly restarted |
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<marex> |
or something like that ... try shuting the Z2 down, removing battery, put it back and retry |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ive tried cold reboots and nothing, but alright |
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<marex> |
SPR isn't zero when the initial firmware is in the BBMAC |
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<marex> |
hm ... |
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<marex> |
you have to power down the chip ... that should help |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright, ill try it |
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<marex> |
I can't really tell much more about the internal workage of the wifi chip |
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<Webhostbudd> |
should it only take a couple of seconds to clear? |
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<marex> |
I guess so ... |
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<marex> |
there shouldn't be any vast capacitors in the Z2 anyway |
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<marex> |
it's a cheap toy ... |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<Webhostbudd> |
same error still |
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<Webhostbudd> |
think the bin file is corrupted? |
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<marex> |
dunno, you can sha1sum it |
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<marex> |
but the SPR check is done before the firmware is even loaded |
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<marex> |
I'd rather wonder what's in the SPR |
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<Webhostbudd> |
hmmm, anything i should do? |
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<jagsph_> |
Westhostbudd: i have the information on the screen brightness |
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<jagsph_> |
Westhostbudd: its being controlled by a script in /etc/ called lid-daemon.sh on the Rc2 release as i recall... it also shows where to change the brightness manually.... im working on a next release which allows changing of the brightness on demand. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
okay |
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<jagsph_> |
I read a little bit about your wireless problem. |
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<jagsph_> |
Did you get it to work since then? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
nope |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ive never worked on devices like this so the issue is foreign to me |
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<jagsph_> |
I understand. This is my first time working on an ARM device also. |
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<jagsph_> |
How did you install your copy to the SD card? A lot of people have been extracting the rootfs bz2 and not doing it as root which causes some issues. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
i did it as root |
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<Webhostbudd> |
i mean, everything else works fine |
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<Webhostbudd> |
its just these wifi binaries |
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<jagsph_> |
Did you need another copy of the WIFI binaries? |
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<jagsph_> |
The ones included should work, i have had a similar problem which was resolved by powering off and removing the battery for 30 seconds. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
30 seconds |
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<Webhostbudd> |
hmmm |
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<Webhostbudd> |
i let it go for a while |
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<Webhostbudd> |
are all of the binaries the same? |
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<jagsph_> |
The binaries distributed with the Z2 are different than the publically available ones from my understanding. |
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<jagsph_> |
The ones on that image are the ones that came with my Z2. |
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<jagsph_> |
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/libertas the libertas public gspi firmware is here |
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<Webhostbudd> |
are there any downsides to the public drivers |
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<Webhostbudd> |
i mean |
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<Webhostbudd> |
are they decent? |
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<jagsph_> |
I am not aware of any downsides. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
is anyone else using them? |
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<jagsph_> |
I think hunter davis has used them. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ill leave the battery out for a while |
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<Webhostbudd> |
try my bins again, and see if it works |
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<Webhostbudd> |
otherwise, i guess ill try though |
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<jagsph_> |
Yeh, im sorry its not working for you. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
do you think reimaging it could fix it? |
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<Webhostbudd> |
interesting, i got another line this time |
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<Webhostbudd> |
libertas: spu_wait_for_u16: timeout with val=00, target_mask=00, target=00 |
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<Webhostbudd> |
in addition to the others |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
alright, im going to run through another image |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
so i should just cd to the ext3 fs, then tar jvxf RC2.BZ2 |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
as root of course |
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<jagsph_> |
yeh... |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
you mind doing an md5 check with my bins? |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
gspi8686 and gspi8686_hlp |
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<jagsph_> |
i dont have the z2 hand right now |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
alright |
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<jagsph_> |
Actually |
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<jagsph_> |
I think i have the bins on my desktop. |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
ooo |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
o go |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
o god |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
how big is your helper binary? |
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<jagsph_> |
lookin for it now... |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i think i see the issue |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
byte for byte, my bin and _hlp bin are the same size |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i probably messed up naming |
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<jagsph_> |
ok i got a couple...... |
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<jagsph_> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/d5d2dd337 |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
3458023b13c0bd017b7d9b233ae7ed85 gspi8686.bin |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
3458023b13c0bd017b7d9b233ae7ed85 gspi8686_hlp.bin |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
yea...... |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i definitely screwed up |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
the gspi8686.bin matches yours perfectly |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
the issue is the helper one |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
would you have any problem sending me the helper_gspi.bin? |
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<jagsph_> |
nope |
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<jagsph_> |
I can send it. |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
alright |
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<jagsph_> |
which one did you want? |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
the helper |
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<jagsph_> |
ab1b9b8554094fa5f3d1237d3c557e98 ./ZIPIT_ORIGINAL_FILES/helper_gspi.bin |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
./ZIPIT_ORIGINAL_FILES/helper_gspi.bin |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
yea |
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<jagsph_> |
ok |
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<jagsph_> |
I can post them online. |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
k |
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<jagsph_> |
it will be a minute or 2. |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
alright |
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<jagsph_> |
http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/ZIPIT_ORIGINAL_FILES/ |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
thanks a million |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i hope it works now |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, you know there are people here who are cooperating with Marvell semi, right ? |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: they are not staying there. |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: he owns the Z2 he has a right to them. |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, please read the license to those files before distributing them |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, many other people can download those files now ... |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
they are in the userland images anyway |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i just realized |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: they are in here also. http://aliosa27.net/projects/zipit2/zipit2-audio+x+mouse.gz |
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<marex> |
they are being distributed ? well ... you should better pull them, otherwise Marvell law dept might not like it |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: they are also in an image hunter davis released on his site. |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: and they are on wireless.kernel.org |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
i think he pulled it though |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: you can also apt-get install them from a firmware package in a .deb |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, so ... what's the license to those files ? |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, I'm talking to collegues about this (not disclosing where I got the information about distribution) ... just to make sure |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=commit;h=bdd4d91e6feea9f48039171e35bf4ae665247a73 |
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<jagsph_> |
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=commit;h=8ad78631586495ca5738c78884c14bfaf29f633e |
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<jagsph_> |
If there was an issue with it they wouldnt be available there. |
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<Webhostbudd_> |
awesome, looks like it's working |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, read the license ... |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: email kernel.org. tell them they cannot host it. |
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<marex> |
Webhostbudd_, good, it was checking SPR after loading the primary fw ... |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, they can ... read the license |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: email aliosa tell him to take it out of his image |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, I dont care about him, really ... but once marvell figures this out, he might be screwed |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: what about the license? http://cozybit.com/projects/gspi8686/ |
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<mozzwald> |
jagsph: speaking of wireless. :) I started working on a gui based connecting script loosely based on your netconfig |
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<jagsph_> |
mozzwald: do you have screenshots? this sounds cool |
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<mozzwald> |
jagsph: not yet. lemmie try to grab one right quick. |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: there is nothing that says the firmware cannot be redistributed |
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<marex> |
Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: and wheres the problem? |
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<jagsph_> |
I dont see one. |
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<marex> |
where's the license ... |
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<jagsph_> |
Webhostbudd_ owns the device, has a license for it, and also, if you want to state that, wheres the license on kernel.org |
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<jagsph_> |
I saw no license information on kernel.org. |
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<marex> |
see the commit message ? |
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<marex> |
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=commit;h=bdd4d91e6feea9f48039171e35bf4ae665247a73 second file ... |
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<marex> |
jagsph_, cool, he has the license for it ... but other people who download it do NOT have the license dammit |
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<marex> |
good, you pulled it ... be careful about this next time |
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<jagsph_> |
marex: So are you saying that you think I should put license plainly visible anywhere it is? |
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<marex> |
the LICENSE should acompany the firmware files when distributed, yes |
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<jagsph_> |
http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE2/ satisfied ? <--scroll to bottom |
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<marex> |
should be ok |
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<wickz2_> |
i'd put the license in the /lib/firmware/libertas folder |
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<marex> |
wickz2_, that's not necessary I think |
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<wickz2_> |
maybe not, but safe |
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<jagsph_> |
wickz2_: it is going to be on the next upload. |
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<marex> |
wickz2_, I'd really have to ask law dept. |
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<marex> |
gnight |
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<wickz2_> |
nite |
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<marex> |
and be careful, you don't want to get into problems, do you ... |
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<jagsph_> |
mozzwald: i cant wait to see this gui. |
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<wickz2_> |
xdialog based? |
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<jagsph_> |
thats probably the best way to go for this device, he might be doing tcl/tk |
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<jagsph_> |
i hope not though |
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<wickz2_> |
xdialog works nice |
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<wickz2_> |
i did a connect script using it for jlime awhile back |
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<jagsph_> |
chat/pppd ? |
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<wickz2_> |
it was just a UI for the basic ifup, dhclient, iwlist etc etc |
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<wickz2_> |
basically the same as your z2 wifi script, just done with xdialog |
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<jagsph_> |
oh. cool... yeh mine was just a very quick hack ... |
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<wickz2_> |
might be a hack, but it works |
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<mozzwald> |
jagsph: http://mozzwald.com/node/32 |
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<jagsph_> |
Yeh. It serves its purpose.... When I get motivation I want to attach some more advanced features to it... |
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<mozzwald> |
I'm using zenity |
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<jagsph_> |
mozzwald: thats going to be sweet.... i would love to put that in the final release... make sure you put an about button on ... |
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<mozzwald> |
right now it just gives you a list of networks, you choose one, and if there's no save file it asks for a password, otherwise connects |
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<jagsph_> |
mozzwald: i dont know anything about zenity but does it have a way to do a task bar icon? |
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<jagsph_> |
i think it would be called system tray |
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<jagsph_> |
It would be nice to replace the lxde applet |
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<mozzwald> |
with zenity you can only create an information icon that disappears after clicking it, so no tray icon |
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<mozzwald> |
http://library.gnome.org/users/zenity/stable/ |
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<wickz2_> |
jagsph_: any way to have lxpanel 'swallow' conkys battery status? |
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<mozzwald> |
jagsph: I have yet to find a system tray applet that can be accessed like zenity or gtkdialog |
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<wickz2_> |
so the status is in the taskbar |
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<jagsph_> |
wickz2_: put conky ontop of lxpanel ? |
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<wickz2_> |
well jwm i can do it, just wondering if lxpanel could do it |
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<jagsph_> |
wickz2_: i dont know, im still looking for a way to even call the lxpanel menu by a shortcut key...all conky is doing is calling the battlevel binary.... if there is a dockapp that will run a program and display its output... |
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<wickz2_> |
dont want it on top, thatd cover my shortcut icons |
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<jagsph_> |
mozzwald: there might not be anything.. |
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<jagsph_> |
wickz2_: i dont know exactly what you mean by "swallow" then |
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<wickz2_> |
battlevel would act as a panel plugin |
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<wickz2_> |
just like a clock or volume control |
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<jagsph_> |
wickz2_: i dont believe lxpanel has a plugin like that |
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<wickz2_> |
bummer |
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<nebukan> |
good evenling, im out travelling and ran into some problems using a tun interface for ip-over-dns. |
| [22:16:12] |
<nebukan> |
do i need to compile a new kernel to get tun/tap support? |
| [22:16:33] |
<wickz2_> |
probably |
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<jagsph_> |
unless u have a lkm for it |
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<mozzwald> |
jagsph: I set CTRL-Zipit to F20 and added this to kbdconfig: f20=!lxpanelctl menu |
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<wickz2_> |
the z2 kernel really only has the basic modules built |
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<nebukan> |
wickz2_: yeah, ofc, trying to keep it small and everything |
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<jagsph_> |
you can download the kernel source and the build essentials for 2.2.29 and build the modules and insmod them |
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<jagsph_> |
i dont see why that wouldnt work. |
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<nebukan> |
that would kick ass. unfortuenly on very lagged ip-over-dns connection at gatwick atm, seconds of lagg makes everything hard |
| [22:19:47] |
<jagsph_> |
i keep saying 2.2.29 |
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<jagsph_> |
i mean 2.6.29 |
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<nebukan> |
iodine <3 |
| [22:21:32] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: are you saying that i am partially mentally disabled because i dont get enough iodine supplement? |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: haha only if it makes u feel better |
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<jagsph_> |
haha |
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<nebukan> |
http://code.kryo.se/iodine/ |
| [22:24:21] |
<nebukan> |
good shit |
| [22:24:39] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: thats a serious statement though, countries with the lowest iodine supplement availability have the highest level of mental retardation |
| [22:25:20] |
<jagsph_> |
that looks pretty cool though its going in my bookmarks |
| [22:26:02] |
<nebukan> |
good to have while travelling, sucks paying at every airport/hotel |
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<jagsph_> |
how can you tunnel ipv4 data through a dns server |
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<jagsph_> |
im reading it now... |
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<nebukan> |
mindfuck :) |
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<jagsph_> |
looks like it. |
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<nebukan> |
bot booted off one wifi , their noc probobly went mad with 500 dns queries a second |
| [22:28:54] |
<nebukan> |
or something like that |
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<nebukan> |
bot/got |
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<jagsph_> |
so if they dont filter the dns port you can connect to the outside world |
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<nebukan> |
yeah |
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<jagsph_> |
but if they filter everything...... and only let u connect to their dns u are still screwed |
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<nebukan> |
yep |
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<nebukan> |
but to my advantage they want to resolv google.com > "pay for wifi here" |
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<jagsph_> |
all they have to do is redirect their dns |
| [22:34:47] |
<nebukan> |
like not returning TXT records |
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<jagsph_> |
redirect all dns to their dns server |
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<nebukan> |
im using their dns-server |
| [22:37:39] |
<jagsph_> |
maybe i read the readme wrong |
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<nebukan> |
i query blahablalafhfhfhhdjhdkdk.mydomian.org thru their dns, my dnsserver at my domain decodes and sends back the data as TXT record.. sorry bad explaining |
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<nebukan> |
i should read up more exactly, it workes almost everywhere |
| [22:39:53] |
<nebukan> |
though |
| [22:40:06] |
<jagsph_> |
i thought u changed your dns ..... |
| [22:40:26] |
<jagsph_> |
thats way more advanced than i thought |
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<nebukan> |
its awesome, iodine sees a payload in the blahablaha.mydomain.org |
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<jagsph_> |
start downloading usenet and torrents |
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<jagsph_> |
ifconfig eth1 hw ether 69:69:69:69:69 |
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<jagsph_> |
make sure they notice it... |
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<nebukan> |
its slow, 4-5kbit tops |
| [22:43:16] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i would figure on a lot of them they only redirect port 80 |
| [22:43:55] |
<nebukan> |
yeah, i could prob run a vpn on port 53 |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: also have you tried taking another persons mac address who has paid? |
| [22:44:22] |
<jagsph_> |
pick it up with wireshark or tcpdump |
| [22:44:47] |
<nebukan> |
i might try that, still got 5 hours to kill |
| [22:45:45] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: haha def. would be amusing... maybe sniff some instant messaging traffic send a couple of icmp port unreachables make them disconnect and get an msn password? |
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<nebukan> |
not that well equipped im afraid, my laptop broke yesterday and im running my linux of a 2gb usb-key |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: use an eth1:1 and assign it to their dns server and run your own and redirect all queries to some african american pornographic site |
| [22:48:22] |
<nebukan> |
lol |
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<nebukan> |
so much fun, so little hhd-space |
| [22:49:27] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: there is so much you can do to its entertaining.... download 1234.c from packetstormsecurity and remove the usleep and set src_addr = rand(); |
| [22:49:47] |
<jagsph_> |
you dont need a lot :) |
| [22:49:53] |
<jagsph_> |
just netinet-dev |
| [22:50:48] |
<jagsph_> |
you could also make a fake wireless pay site and redirect people to that so they put in their cc#' and ssn# |
| [22:51:08] |
<jagsph_> |
i should probably not say anymore. |
| [22:51:24] |
<nebukan> |
jagsph_: donation site for rootnexus |
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<jagsph_> |
create a donation called wireless access and redirect everyone to that. |
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<nebukan> |
hehe would be awesome accually :) |
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<nebukan> |
but no, i got my free internet |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: you could get your free money |
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<nebukan> |
i should just stop there |
| [22:53:23] |
<jagsph_> |
haha |
| [22:53:43] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i got my free wireless off a neighbor at my house |
| [22:54:23] |
<nebukan> |
nice! sharing is caring |
| [22:54:25] |
<jagsph_> |
i set up dd-wrt as a wireless repeater |
| [22:54:38] |
<jagsph_> |
and i have my own private net on theirs. |
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<nebukan> |
u should run a man in the middle with squid and upsidedown |
| [22:54:51] |
<jagsph_> |
for my whole apt. |
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<jagsph_> |
force all their traffic un-encrypted. |
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<nebukan> |
i used to have access to my neighbors wifi at home |
| [22:56:01] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i can turn off my dhcp and private net and put my systems directly onto theirs if i want with the repeater but i want a little more security than that |
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<nebukan> |
then i checked radio off when i was drunk |
| [22:56:15] |
<nebukan> |
never saw it again |
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<jagsph_> |
good one heh |
| [22:56:57] |
<jagsph_> |
when i open too many sockets their router stops responding untill they close |
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<nebukan> |
dd-wrt should be able to do vlans? even though its wireless( not super secure but still) |
| [22:57:09] |
<theubermensche> |
I upload dd-wrt on my neighbors router once |
| [22:57:24] |
<theubermensche> |
uploaded |
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<jagsph_> |
it does to vpn |
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<jagsph_> |
do* |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i have the cheapest dd-wrt router ever........ dell truemobile 2300 |
| [22:58:35] |
<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: how did that work out? it wont let u login via wireless unless u modified the bin |
| [22:58:56] |
<nebukan> |
i'd like to buy a nice linksys one, but i read the thruput to wan isent that great |
| [22:59:08] |
<theubermensche> |
they had default passwords set up on their router |
| [22:59:30] |
<nebukan> |
i got a 100mbit connection aat home so 50mbit or what they do isent enough |
| [22:59:54] |
<jagsph_> |
i meant dd-wrt doesnt allow a remote login on first upload |
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<theubermensche> |
I saw they had a linksys. Once, I was connected I just went into admin and did a wireless update |
| [23:00:17] |
<nebukan> |
theubermensche: did everything work out or did it go offline to never be seen again |
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<theubermensche> |
it actually came back online |
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<theubermensche> |
then I tried to bridge it with mine |
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<nebukan> |
load balancing with yr neighbours wifi would kick ass |
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<nebukan> |
i dont know anything bout load balancing though |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: yeh u can do that lol.... |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: its really easy.... very easy..... |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: but im being nice to them, i have qos on so i keep my bandwidth down... and i dont have my own internet.... but im tempted to use backtrack on one of the other lans out here. |
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<nebukan> |
hehe dont shit where i sleep |
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<nebukan> |
i/u |
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<jagsph_> |
thats why i use qos |
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<nebukan> |
Direct Server Return: an option for asymmetrical load distribution, where request and reply have different network paths. |
| [23:05:31] |
<nebukan> |
that would be something |
| [23:06:52] |
<theubermensche> |
do you all have hacked zipits? |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: do you know what i rebroadcast my neighbors wireless as? |
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<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: whats a zipit? |
| [23:07:41] |
<nebukan> |
theubermensche: ofc! |
| [23:07:42] |
<jagsph_> |
:D |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: no haha |
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<theubermensche> |
:) |
| [23:08:24] |
<theubermensche> |
I've just been trying to justify buying one |
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<jagsph_> |
i didnt think i could say that in the channel |
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<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: its a good emulation system |
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<jagsph_> |
for gameboy |
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<nebukan> |
theubermensche: put alot of porn on it. pornit. |
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<jagsph_> |
...nes |
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<jagsph_> |
I made a script to play redtube on it |
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<theubermensche> |
cool |
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<nebukan> |
ssh and use irssi |
| [23:09:47] |
<theubermensche> |
have you used the average user image? |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: nice! haah |
| [23:10:34] |
<nebukan> |
i played quake on the bus the other day. that was alot of fun |
| [23:11:11] |
<jagsph_> |
nebukan: you should be able to connect to other computers on the internet with sdlquake |
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<theubermensche> |
I heard that the drivers to the wireless card are closed so there is no chance of kismet or airodump. Is that true? |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: awesome, my quake seg faults out of the blue now |
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<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: zipit.rootnexus.org is my site.... the userland is a pre-release of the final im working on..... |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: on the z2? weird? |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: yeah, dont know why, i did alot of shit to get tun/tap working but without results, you never know.... |
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<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: i havent tried it..... thats what i heard..... if u want something to do that get a $50 laptop with 64mb of ram and a dwl-g120 rev b1 |
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<theubermensche> |
okay. Well, good work! |
| [23:13:36] |
<jagsph_> |
and grab a copy of debian... |
| [23:14:15] |
<theubermensche> |
I have a netbook for that. I was just curious |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: it might be u have not enough swap configured..... i havent seen one crash on it |
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<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: yeh just throwing it out there... i see them all over ebay im tempted to buy a cheap old laptop |
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<theubermensche> |
man, I just threw away a toshiba libretto 100 |
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<theubermensche> |
the case was all screwed up though |
| [23:16:37] |
<jagsph_> |
theubermensche: ive got a dell 366mhz w/256mb of ram it does rather well just worthless with flash |
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<jagsph_> |
you just have to pick the right software for something that old..... |
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<theubermensche> |
who needs flash....according to Jobs |
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<theubermensche> |
I had the libretto with a 233mhz/64mb of ram running xp pro |
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<nebukan> |
steve mobs |
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<theubermensche> |
It actually played youtube in firefox |
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<jagsph_> |
i dont know what version u are using because it wont play at all on mine |
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<jagsph_> |
you must have some sort of graphics acceleration ...... |
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<jagsph_> |
mine does not have any 3d capabilities |
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<theubermensche> |
mine didn't either |
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<theubermensche> |
but youtube has changed over the years |
| [23:21:32] |
<theubermensche> |
have you tried the html5 version? |
| [23:21:43] |
<jagsph_> |
no |
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<theubermensche> |
There is a setting in youtube that lets you use the html5 version of youtube when it is available |
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<theubermensche> |
it can help |
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<jagsph_> |
i will try next time gf wants to look at youtube |
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<jagsph_> |
for now i have a copy/paste url set up |
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<jagsph_> |
which plays it in mplayer.... |
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<nebukan> |
nice |
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<Webhostbudd> |
so are you guys using the default browser on the release? |
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<nebukan> |
i hardly use youtube except when drewling over new tech toys |
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<jagsph_> |
Webhostbudd: there isnt much else besides links2 that works in 32mb of ram. the other option is dillo but its rendering is very poor. |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright |
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<nebukan> |
i was thinkin what a stripped down webkitbrowser would do |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: youtube is good for downloading music.... that feature is going into the next release of the userland |
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<Webhostbudd> |
ooo |
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<Webhostbudd> |
cool |
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<jagsph_> |
i shouldnt release that kind of information though :) |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: sweet. |
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<theubermensche> |
what about Android? Is the emulator to much of a resource hog? |
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<nebukan> |
btw why does sudo try to resolv my hostname ? dont have my zipit within reach but saw something like that |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: no idea |
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<Webhostbudd> |
yea |
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<Webhostbudd> |
sudo does for some reason |
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<Webhostbudd> |
just make sure your hosts match your hostname |
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<nebukan> |
ok |
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<Webhostbudd> |
jagsph_: does updating apt work on these builds? or do you have a lot of custom stuff? |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i put in a backdoor to root if you are the logged in as user type op shell |
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<user_> |
wicknix, ready for some edubook hacking? |
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<jagsph_> |
Webhostbudd: apt-get works |
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<Webhostbudd> |
so it wont break? |
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<nebukan> |
lol op shell |
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<Webhostbudd> |
alright |
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<jagsph_> |
it might |
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<jagsph_> |
i cant gaurantee |
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<jagsph_> |
:) |
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<user_> |
jaq you using angstrom to generate these images? |
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<user_> |
jagsph_ |
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<jagsph_> |
no not yet. |
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<jagsph_> |
debian, and the nice utilities called dd and tar |
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<user_> |
i was playing around with it the othernight and was able to get x11 to boot using the htcaspine frame in only 32 megs of ram |
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<user_> |
the image size I mean was only 32 megs |
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<user_> |
was trying to get opie going but the image wasn't generating with them |
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<jagsph_> |
yeh i want to switch to oe or angstrom... it wont be for a while though i have done some playing around with it and i have an image im working on |
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<user_> |
i was surprised I could get it to boot on the 1st shot, so obviously it's pretty easy to start with |
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<nebukan> |
alot of coverage on hak5 last week btw, |
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<jagsph_> |
some of the software that i want isnt compiled in so i would have to pull it from debian binaries or build it from source..... debian unfortunately has too many dependencies that take up a lot of space. |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i didnt know what hak5 was until last week. |
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<nebukan> |
i dont really know where to start but archmobile looks awesome for the zipit |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: i like hak5, its cosy fun |
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<nebukan> |
arch beeing the superior dist that is |
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<user_> |
they got pictures of it running an htc device which is very similar to the zipit atleast seems that way |
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<user_> |
with minimo and some snazzy looking pim and wireless software, would love to have that on this thing |
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<jagsph_> |
speaking of that.....my tmobile contract is almost up and i want to put only linux on my g1. |
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<theubermensche> |
I use a g1 on att |
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<nebukan> |
im really hooked on the maemo n900 |
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<nebukan> |
expensive ! |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: no gcc for arch-arm? |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: qemu i think |
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<jagsph_> |
they dont have a binary of it for arm |
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<jagsph_> |
means more cross compiling.... |
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<jagsph_> |
i kind of like building things on 32mb of ram :) its entertaining... |
