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<Aelius> |
ill try that later, thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
np |
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<Mcavity> |
is back. swa book of eli |
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<jagsph> |
the PIPE key is alt + backspace |
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<Mcavity> |
noted |
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<Mcavity> |
just a note on the time thing |
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<Mcavity> |
hour updated.. min do not |
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<mcavity2> |
morning |
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<mitzekotze> |
has somebody an idea why the wlan interface doesn't exist on my installation of rootnexus userland image? |
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<mitzekotze> |
I only have the loop back interface |
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<mcavity2> |
mitzekotze, dunno that one |
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<mcavity2> |
did you extract as root ? |
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<mitzekotze> |
sry my fault |
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<mitzekotze> |
didn't use the -a parameter |
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<mcavity2> |
ahh |
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<mitzekotze> |
now its working :) |
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<mcavity2> |
heh |
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<mcavity2> |
im on my zippy now |
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<mcavity2> |
yay for working |
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<mcavity2> |
had to reboot main box |
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<mcavity2> |
one day ill figur this out |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<Mcavity> |
morning |
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<mitzekotze> |
urgh "apt-get install" under the zipit is a pain in the ass |
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<rkdavis> |
mitzekotze: it could be worse :) could be using rpm |
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<mitzekotze> |
he he |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis: does the pxa support reboot? |
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<rkdavis> |
the prog? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes i reboot mine all the time :) |
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<rkdavis> |
the only thing to avoid out of shutdown, halt and reboot is the halt command. it does nasty things that require a hard reset |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: ah just the person |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: you here for a few minutes or you just here to lurk while the sheep are frollocking |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis: i cannot issue a reboot it freezes |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph: a debian app or busybox's? |
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<GPSFan> |
rkdavis, I'm here for a bit while I wake up... |
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<rkdavis> |
i use busybox's and it works well |
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<rkdavis> |
GPSFan: i pm'ed you |
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<jagsph> |
rkdavis: debian. basic utilities for linux |
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<jagsph> |
i can try calling busybox to reboot |
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<dTal> |
okay, Zipit got back |
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<dTal> |
I think they misunderstood my question |
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<dTal> |
They said I was free to use any information I found on the Linux site, without answering my question about the pads |
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<dTal> |
although looking at it, the way I phrased it, they could have interpreted it as a request to use the information that was already there |
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<dTal> |
still, I've sent another email, clarifying the information I want |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: :) |
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<Mcavity> |
is just so confused on windows home server |
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<Mcavity> |
ah well i think i have the important stuff worked out. |
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<Mcavity> |
hey has anyone tried to bit bake Microb web browser? |
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<Mcavity> |
http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/build_howto.html |
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<Mcavity> |
midori almost installed.. |
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<p0S|-|> |
hello |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
hi hi |
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<p0S|-|> |
so has anyone got a decent framebuffer console working on this thing yet? |
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<p0S|-|> |
something with 80 columns? |
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<p0S|-|> |
im trying to decide if i should buy one or not |
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<p0S|-|> |
i just want wlan+ssh+console |
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<p0S|-|> |
but it's got to look nice enough |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
only if you use tiny font |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
lol but its looking better every day |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
80 colums is kind of tough on a 320x240 display |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
it realy depends what you want to do with it |
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<p0S|-|> |
yeah |
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<p0S|-|> |
ok |
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<p0S|-|> |
not gonna get one |
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<p0S|-|> |
not with a macbook pro refresh forthcoming |
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<p0S|-|> |
heheheh |
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<dTal> |
I'd like an 80 column console |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
maybe a wyse terminal? |
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<Mcavity-lappy> |
hehe |
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<muriani> |
I'd be cool with tiny font |
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<rkdavis> |
muriani: what rootfs are you running? |
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<rkdavis> |
i have a 4x6 font that gives 80cols but some versions of setfont don't like it |
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<rkdavis> |
jpimble did it iirc |
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<dTal> |
I couldn't make that work |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: yes i had to fiddle around with setfont versions one worked most didn't |
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<rkdavis> |
i forget which version did and didn't too |
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<rkdavis> |
i think it was one from busybox ratehr than the one from console tools iirc |
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<dTal> |
I downloaded your version but it segfaulted |
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<muriani> |
I'm running jagsph |
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<muriani> |
RC1-pre or some such |
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<muriani> |
the one before he pulled the roms out |
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<rkdavis> |
muriani: if it's not already there try apt-getting consoletools or kbd and see if the setfont there will load there fonts http://japi.dddgames.com/~jpimble/zipit/ the 4x6 gives 80 chars width although you better have good eyes as it's tiny |
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<rkdavis> |
and youmight need to fiddle with TERM etc as soem stuff still thinks the screen is smaller |
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<muriani> |
I can deal with a 4x6 font |
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<muriani> |
I'll check it out, thanks |
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<gbpic_> |
Speaking of console-tools, I installed them on my Zipit to change the keymap, and it boots MUCH slower. (At least on my old Debian userland) |
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<dTal> |
It works! |
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<dTal> |
Boy that is *tiny* |
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<dTal> |
But I still like it. |
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<dTal> |
That's very like the small font on my TI-89. I guess there's only so many ways to make a font at that size. |
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<dTal> |
Wow, alsamixer actually has a sane number of volume sliders per screen now. |
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<dTal> |
So how do I set this at boot? |
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<muriani> |
dTal: yeah, the fonts are fairly common |
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<muriani> |
I need to find my TI-89 |
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<dTal> |
Trying to make it set at boot with /etc/kbd/config didn't work, however |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: maybe just put it in your .bashrc or something? |
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<dTal> |
I was trying to do it "the debian way". Foolish of me, I know. |
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<dTal> |
Besides, I want it to work for all users. |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<dTal> |
dmesg shows "console: switching to colour frame buffer device 40x30" |
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<dTal> |
(at boot) |
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<dTal> |
console: [ttyS2] enabled |
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<balloooza> |
hi |
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<balloooza> |
on the latest average user userland (pre2) how do I access F1 - 12 and the alt key (not the one that changes the keys |
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<balloooza> |
) |
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<balloooza> |
also is it neccecary to use wpa_passphrase netname password >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to add a password? |
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<dTal> |
not neccesary |
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<dTal> |
basically you can use the passphrase itself, or you can use the big long hashed version wpa_passphrase outputs |
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<dTal> |
the first in quotes, the second not |
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<dTal> |
the advantage of using the hashed one is it doesn't have to hash it every time it connects, so it theoretically performs a little better |
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<balloooza> |
dose it work with WPA2 and WPA1 |
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<dTal> |
should do |
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<balloooza> |
is it known that the backlight dose not turn back on when the lid is opened? |
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<dTal> |
the keyboard? yeah |
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<balloooza> |
yes the keyboard backlight |
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<balloooza> |
I see in this file |
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<dTal> |
actually, the way it really is is that the keyboard backlight is off by default, but it turns on automatically when the zipit boots |
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<balloooza> |
http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/DOCS/keymap-map |
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<balloooza> |
that there is F11-F20 mapped |
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<dTal> |
so the power management script doesn't set it correctly until you've cycled the lid |
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<balloooza> |
F1 I ment |
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<balloooza> |
I am making some progress with the keymap.map file in the /etc directory, there is no F11 or F12 maped, but theoreticly it can be done, just need to find where to put it |
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<gbpic_> |
@balloooza Do you use loadmap on bootup to load the new keymap, or is there a way tobdo it automatically? |
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<SB-Zipit> |
gbpic_: Error: "balloooza" is not a valid command. |
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<gbpic_> |
Hm. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok this is driving me nuts |
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<rkdavis> |
got a fragment of shell script that isn't working right, it used to but i canna get it working again |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: What do I do with the busybox file you posted the other day; just chmod it executable and run it? |
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<rkdavis> |
FiftyOneFifty: yes if it'll run on your rootfs, there is a good chance it won;t |
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<rkdavis> |
as i am using scratchbox and it seems that it doesn;t work in debian |
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<dTal> |
debian sid has been the best experience so far for me |
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<dTal> |
I've taken jagsghghghs userland and made it not start x automatically, and give me a proper 80 column terminal |
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<dTal> |
I haven't run into any problems or bugs at all yet. |
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<dTal> |
it's even got an mp3 program that only uses 10 percent cpu |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rkdavis: Thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
np |
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<kevman`> |
Anyone have tips on setting up a browser for Zipit2 use? I tried conkorer which rendered really nice but slammed the swap |
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<kevman`> |
And dillo takes up so much screen real estate |
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<dTal> |
Most folks use links2. I use elinks. |
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<dTal> |
Pictures are for illiterates. |
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<Mcavity> |
microB might be nice if someone bitbacked it |
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<Mcavity> |
or midori |
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<kevman`> |
Isn't midori from like linux 2.2 days? |
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<Mcavity> |
http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html |
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<kevman`> |
Or are you not talking about the distro? I just remembered Midori is x86 |
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<Mcavity> |
humm im about to try it |
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<Mcavity> |
this will take a few min |
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<Mcavity> |
ok thats fun. |
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<Mcavity> |
i install midori..but wehn i try and run it from command prompt i get "cannot open display" |
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<kevman`> |
ON the zipit? |
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<kevman`> |
Or via ssh? |
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<Mcavity> |
on the zipit.. but then i got out of op shel and it seems to be loading |
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<Mcavity> |
ok that looks good.. but its peging the cpu. |
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<kevman`> |
Anythin pegs it |
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<Mcavity> |
think its also hamering swap. |
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<muriani> |
This is true. |
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<Mcavity> |
but it looks good lol. |
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<kevman`> |
I'm kinda disappointed by zipit performance tbh... My chumby smokes this thing |
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<Mcavity> |
the zipits bigest handycap is the lack of memory |
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<Mcavity> |
hard to work around that. but for soemthing you can cary in your pocket it does pretty good. |
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<Mcavity> |
also its not running its max speed.. [who wants to burn thier hands? lol] |
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<Mcavity> |
humms.. pokeing at a few things. |
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<Mcavity> |
current mem usage is 16/of 28 and 12 of swap. |
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<Mcavity> |
rendering pages is a bit slow.. but it does look good. not to shabby for an apt-get |
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<Mcavity> |
bitbaked might be better. |
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<kevman`> |
I'll try it when I'm not playing l4d2... |
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<kevman`> |
Heh |
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<Mcavity> |
it renders properly just slooow |
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<kevman`> |
I've kicked around Gentoo Arm... I'm not sure if the zipit requires kernel patches? |
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<Mcavity> |
ask rkdavis on thatone |
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<Mcavity> |
this looks so nice.. |
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<Mcavity> |
oh this should be fun.. verison blocks 4chan. lol |
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<kevman`> |
What? |
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<Mcavity> |
oh just something i read at fark |
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<Aelius> |
rkdavis: no modifier to the smile key produces the pipe |
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<kevman`> |
Uh, what's the package name for this midori? |
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<Mcavity> |
apt-get install midori |
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<Mcavity> |
=) |
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<kevman`> |
Huh, it can't find it. |
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<Mcavity> |
i had to do an apt-get update first.. that takes a while. |
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<kevman`> |
I did earlier today. |
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<kevman`> |
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
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<kevman`> |
9AA38DCD55BE302B |
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<kevman`> |
W: Failed to fetch http://www.emdebian.org/grip/dists/lenny/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-armel/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
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<kevman`> |
Huh |
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<Mcavity> |
interesting |
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<kevman`> |
I hate apt |
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<Mcavity> |
i dont know.. i did apt-get update from op shell |
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<Mcavity> |
then apt-get install midori |
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<kevman`> |
Apt-get update is what's throwing that error |
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<Mcavity> |
verify your zipit is online? |
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<Mcavity> |
i did that once |
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<kevman`> |
Oh it is |
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<Mcavity> |
recnnect with the router? |
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<Mcavity> |
ok |
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<Mcavity> |
umm.. |
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<Mcavity> |
not sure why thats not working for you |
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<Mcavity> |
did you do the update from op shell? |
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<kevman`> |
Hm gotta go to bed. Goodnight |
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<Mcavity> |
night |
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