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[05:31:32] <mitzekotze> hi, I'm using the rootnexus userland image but the wlan interface doesn't appears, the gspi files exist in /var/firmware/libertas/ so I'm wondering why it isn't working
[05:31:38] <mitzekotze> can somebody help me?
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[05:50:00] <mcavity_> what's going on with wi fi?
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[05:59:51] <mcavity_> hello?
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[09:35:29] <Aelius> no one is in #hardware, so can anyone here answer me this?
[09:35:50] <Aelius> On an RMA form for jetway motherboard, a required field is Inv # & Date
[09:35:56] <Aelius> What are they asking for
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[10:10:17] <jagsph__> Aelius: looks like invoice #
[10:20:52] <Aelius> thanks
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[10:54:33] <Mcavity> bla cant figure this out.why are some folders not showing up on my ps3...[beeing shared from windows home server]
[10:56:05] <jagsph__> because samba sucks
[10:57:20] <Mcavity> not a samba problem
[10:57:52] <Mcavity> probably do to crapyness of the dnla server / medai shareing of windows home server
[10:58:26] <jagsph__> Its most likely something to do with the filenames
[10:58:41] <Mcavity> if i use a 3rd party app to serve [and transcode] the files that works.. but i want the built in app to work as its lower overhead.. and i dont have that much to spare.
[11:05:07] <Mcavity> bla.
[11:09:52] <jagsph__> Mcavity: maybe you should purchase microsoft certified compatible hardware
[11:10:56] <jagsph__> if [ $REMOTESYSTEM -eq "PS2" ]; then deny-proper-functionality; else echo We are working properly
[11:11:37] <Mcavity> pthh
[11:12:40] <Mcavity> i use my ps3 as a media center. and i can work around the problems.. i just wish i didnt have to.
[11:13:12] <Mcavity> ps3 media server is a great app. just didnt want to HAVE to use it if i could get away with it.
[11:14:07] <jagsph__> im just giving you crap, but you can blame microsoft
[11:14:09] <Mcavity> Im poor but i have a realy nice theater set up in one room. [probably cost less than a good big screen hdtv]
[11:14:20] <Mcavity> i do. they taked on a crapy dnla server.
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[11:15:54] <Adnyxo> hey guys, hows it going
[11:16:07] <Adnyxo> i was gone on friday and saturday to nasshville
[11:16:21] <Adnyxo> jagsph_ is there a new userland yet
[11:16:24] <Adnyxo> lol
[11:16:47] <Mcavity> well we figured out an easy usb mod using the funky port on the headphone jack...
[11:17:35] <jagsph__> yes theres a bugfix release
[11:17:50] <Mcavity> < is full of crap
[11:17:52] <Mcavity> lol
[11:18:16] <Adnyxo> i almost believed you
[11:18:29] <Adnyxo> okay ill dl it
[11:18:49] <Mcavity> hehe
[11:19:10] <jagsph__> but seriously rkdavis got usb working
[11:19:39] <jagsph__> he removed the cpu from the board and soldered in a couple wires.....
[11:19:45] <jagsph__> re-attached it...
[11:19:51] <jagsph__> he has the first usb on pxa270
[11:20:01] <rkdavis> heh
[11:20:10] <rkdavis> no i don't but i have a theory
[11:20:29] <rkdavis> and it worked on treo's from what i was able to google and talk to the guy who did on the treo's
[11:21:14] <rkdavis> but i'm busy for the next couple of days so i can't do anything baout it and i want to talk to some zipit guru's first anyway
[11:21:36] <Adnyxo> omgusb!
[11:21:41] <Adnyxo> thats great
[11:21:58] <jagsph__> rkdavis also fixed uboot so we can install netbsd on the device too
[11:22:16] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: it'll only work if the current usb is wired up on the right usb thingy internally but if it is then it's possible
[11:22:42] <jagsph__> i like your technical term, ... thingy
[11:23:19] <rkdavis> jagsph__: yes i learned all the correct terms at college. thingy, wotsit, oogamaflip
[11:23:45] <rkdavis> oooo oooo ooooo mr kotter
[11:24:02] <jagsph__> rkdavis: install netbsd? http://www.netbsd.org/ports/zaurus/
[11:24:13] <jagsph__> you need to write some drivers.
[11:24:33] <zmef> hello all, i just got a z2 and have read a bunch of different stuff. where should i begin
[11:24:49] <jagsph__> zmef: by asking the local expert rkdavis.
[11:24:55] <jagsph__> :)
[11:26:09] <Mcavity> yes.. heres his phone number 312-424-1915
[11:26:27] <Mcavity> <still full of crap today.
[11:26:30] <Mcavity> hehe
[11:26:36] <jagsph__> actually thats his #
[11:27:42] <Mcavity> i should probably sleep before i cause real trouble.
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[11:30:21] <Mcavity> I want to go to south by southwest.. anyone got a few hundred bucks to give me?
[11:32:08] <Mcavity> wnder what the music line up is like this year.
[11:32:34] <jagsph__> mcavity: post nude pictures and ask for donations so u can post more.
[11:34:19] <Mcavity> well if i posted nude pics id ask for donations so i would not post more!
[11:35:05] <nebukan> what keys to play nes games? staty a b etc
[11:38:43] <Mcavity> man they havent mad a good flyer for the bands yet. probably about 2000 bands will play that week]
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[11:41:18] <Adnyxo> hey foxx
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[11:50:18] <Mcavity> i love this band name "We Were Promised Jetpacks"
[11:51:26] <Adnyxo> yep
[11:51:30] <Adnyxo> thats funny
[11:51:38] <Adnyxo> so im downloading fedora 12
[11:51:44] <Adnyxo> the dvd version
[11:51:53] <Adnyxo> i change distros every week lol
[11:52:17] <Mcavity> somones got ocd...
[11:52:21] <Mcavity> heheh
[11:52:44] <Aelius> heh, when I was first installing freebsd, if I made a mistake anywhere I reinstalled it
[11:53:17] <Aelius> I was like, oh no, I've changed a setting and dont remember where it was. new install!
[11:53:34] <rkdavis> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9152078/Top_10_Super_Bowl_tech_ads
[11:55:10] <Aelius> if that apple one isnt ironic...
[11:59:29] <Mcavity> ok i must go sleep
[11:59:42] <Mcavity> maybe wake up ealy tonight. have a fun day all
[12:02:16] <Adnyxo> bye mac
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[12:05:42] <Adnyxo> Aelius, i do the same thing
[12:08:49] <Adnyxo> hey how do you guys clean the screen on your zipit¿??
[12:09:00] <Adnyxo> my usual static free cloth does not work, it streaks
[12:25:15] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: i put mine in the dishwasher with lots of soap
[12:25:27] <rkdavis> ok takes 7 days to dry out but it's sparkling
[12:29:53] <Adnyxo> seriously, i have streaks all over the screen and its driving me nuts
[12:30:31] <rkdavis> seriously i used an lcd wipe then a glasses microfiber rag
[12:30:43] <Reddog^> i vouch for dishwasher as well
[12:33:23] <Adnyxo> lcd wipe?
[12:33:49] <rkdavis> yup you can find them in places like radio shack or staples
[12:34:01] <rkdavis> they are alcohol moisened wipes
[12:34:28] <rkdavis> they work well but can leave streaks so then a microfibre cloth will buff those out
[12:34:59] <Adnyxo> okay
[12:35:27] <Adnyxo> Fedora 12 is on the way
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[13:29:22] <Adnyxo> wtf fedora is like 4 gigs
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[15:56:21] <jagsph__> Hey adnyxo
[15:56:37] <jagsph__> oh he left... heh
[15:56:55] <jagsph__> Whats happening rkdavis...
[15:57:18] <rkdavis> working on some stuff for a client
[15:57:48] <rkdavis> needs to be finished by tonight as he is meeting some people tomorrow he wants to sell too.
[15:57:48] <jagsph__> cool beans....
[15:58:06] <jagsph__> so you are getting paid :)
[15:58:14] <rkdavis> so working on nice fluffy windows gui stuff
[15:58:28] <rkdavis> jagsph__: not unless he sells it
[15:58:36] <jagsph__> make sure you take advantage of luna and aero in your gui
[15:58:49] <rkdavis> if he does i'll make a few bucks
[15:59:08] <rkdavis> nope not using crap like that, using wxwindows and euphoria
[15:59:45] <jagsph__> mono.
[16:00:22] <jagsph__> glad to hear you arent using microsofts widgets
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[16:14:31] <ogmious09> ftp server on the zipit, what were you recommending yesterday jagsph ?
[16:23:58] <ogmious09> nevermind, got it
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[16:43:14] <jagsph__> vsftpd pure-ftpd
[16:43:31] <jagsph__> i was using the openbsd inetd.
[16:43:33] <jagsph__> ftpd
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[17:13:25] <jagsph__> sup Aelius.
[17:13:34] <Aelius> hey jagsph__
[17:14:28] <jagsph__> get your rma figured out?
[17:14:40] <Aelius> yeah, thanks
[17:15:19] <Aelius> Ive emailed them a few days ago but they didnt respond
[17:15:49] <jagsph__> yeh, i asked a stupid question to asrock a week ago and they havent responded yet about cpu support on an agp am2+ board
[17:15:49] <Aelius> and neither is the other guy I now wish to make a return to...
[17:16:02] <jagsph__> figures.
[17:16:29] <Aelius> lol. someone is conspiring against me
[17:16:46] <jagsph__> they figure if they piss you off enough you will keep it and just buy another and not rma
[17:17:04] <Aelius> heh
[17:17:24] <jagsph__> i dont generally rma, i return and buy another if its broken
[17:18:16] <Aelius> well this one is 5 years old. I didnt think I could rma, so I bought another off ebay
[17:18:59] <Aelius> but my tech teacher tells me a broken capacitor is grounds for rma no matter how old
[17:19:34] <jagsph__> yeh watch someone return an 8086 for a broken capacitor......
[17:19:39] <Aelius> so now this ebay motherboard sucks and i want my money back
[17:20:59] <Aelius> i intend to build a new system, but it kills me to have a pile of good, albeit old, parts just rusting
[17:21:15] <jagsph__> sell them on ebay as is
[17:21:49] <Aelius> but i love my computer :<
[17:22:11] <jagsph__> Remember the hackers movie? when the kid was having withdrawl syndrome? heh
[17:22:13] <jagsph__> that is you.
[17:22:23] <Aelius> yep
[17:23:11] <Aelius> well the law is on my side with the return, and this rma will cost only $10
[17:23:50] <Aelius> 10 is worth it for having two running systems
[17:24:27] <jagsph__> I suppose you are right. The effort is almost not worth it though depending on the speed of the hardware.
[17:25:34] <Aelius> Its all high end stuff. I can play modern games at decent framerates, which is unbeleivable to everyone i know
[17:25:58] <Aelius> over $2000 to build
[17:26:56] <Aelius> even so, any age computer is good to have around for misc cpu crunching
[17:27:41] <Aelius> so i can use one computer without lag, and still transcode videos at the same time
[17:28:00] <Aelius> meh im just crazy
[17:32:47] <jagsph__> very cool
[17:33:07] <jagsph__> Aelius: im trying to get a motherboard and i dont know if it supports the processor i bought
[17:33:56] <jagsph__> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA I want it because it supports my ram and video card that I put a large investment into... plus this board supports 16gb of ram
[17:34:23] <jagsph__> Their CPU support list doesnt list my serial number. So im a little worried about that.
[17:34:44] <Aelius> if the sockets match
[17:34:50] <Aelius> should be good
[17:35:08] <jagsph__> Well i wont be out really anything im getting the board for like $30
[17:35:27] <jagsph__> Also, I read socket 754 is the same as am2/3
[17:35:42] <jagsph__> I dont know the accuracy on that.
[17:37:27] <Aelius> not sure
[17:37:45] <Aelius> i gtg, ill be back later
[17:37:52] <jagsph__> Ok. later.
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[17:38:11] <jagsph__> And if anyone cares, socket 3-7 (years ago) I verified were the same.
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[18:10:52] <Aelius> ok, I'm at a house with wpa
[18:11:13] <Aelius> If I can figure it out, I'll test wpa for you
[18:12:14] <Aelius> jagsph__:
[18:12:35] <jagsph__> Ok Let me know if it works right and what I need to change
[18:13:00] <jagsph__> Aelius: the scripts are in /usr/share/netconfig the wpa script is in applets folder named accordingly
[18:13:33] <jagsph__> Aelius: im going to disable the desktop... it doesnt need it anymore now that lxpanel is working so well... But i need to find out if i can do a shortcut key to the lxpanel main menu
[18:14:08] <jagsph__> lxpanel is saving on resources and giving a lot of functionality.... rox-filer is still integrated as a file manager though.
[18:14:33] <Aelius> k
[18:17:47] <Adnyxo> are you changing to lxpanel jagsph
[18:20:02] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: yes, its included in the current release... but rox is running also... rox is just using too many resources
[18:20:37] <Adnyxo> cool, i havnt upgraded yet as im moving to fedora 12
[18:20:52] <Adnyxo> i like how lxpanel looks
[18:21:09] <jagsph__> Yeh, so do I. I used it on my desktop. Im trying to see if I can do a shortcut key for the menu
[18:22:12] <Aelius> jagsph__: seems to work
[18:22:27] <jagsph__> Aelius: works OOB perfectly?
[18:22:52] <Aelius> the scriipt was accessible from the wifi connect
[18:23:04] <Aelius> one sec, it connected, testing internet
[18:24:59] <Aelius> jagsph__: it's tkip and works perfectly
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[18:27:03] <jagsph__> Haha, thats pretty good for guessing how WPA worked...
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[18:28:32] <Aelius> yeah it works
[18:28:32] <jagsph__> Aelius: have you disabled rox-filer? It really speeds things up
[18:28:38] <Aelius> no
[18:28:52] <Aelius> only kindof here
[18:29:00] <jagsph__> Glad to hear my howto reading worked...
[18:29:18] <Aelius> on the wpa?
[18:29:36] <jagsph__> yeh... i read someone elses documentation on it... and just put in what they said...
[18:30:03] <Aelius> yeah it was straightforward
[18:31:05] <jagsph__> Aelius: thats really cool....
[18:31:25] <jagsph__> Aelius: do you have any suggestions for changes... Im pretty much done with setting up the UI except for finding out how to do an lxpanel hotkey
[18:31:57] <Aelius> for the system or just wifi?
[18:32:11] <jagsph__> For any part of the system...
[18:32:19] <jagsph__> including wifi if u have something for that
[18:33:16] <Aelius> Id make the power button open a script for power saving settings
[18:34:40] <Adnyxo> suggestions? flash
[18:34:42] <Adnyxo> lol
[18:34:44] <Aelius> eg, option for shutdown, lights on/off
[18:35:00] <jagsph__> Aelius: How about scripting in a control panel for editing /etc/lid-daemon.sh
[18:35:31] <Aelius> ok
[18:35:34] <jagsph__> Thats where all of the values are stored and the actions for power button and inserting and removing headphones etc..
[18:36:06] <jagsph__> If someone puts some stupid values in there they wont have a screen they can see though heh
[18:37:09] <Aelius> if it doesnt exist already, it would be good to have keyboard light toggle
[18:37:16] <Aelius> quick access
[18:37:46] <jagsph__> Aelius: i can do that but since its scripted as soon as you close the lid it would turn them off
[18:38:08] <Aelius> k
[18:38:11] <jagsph__> It would not re-activate them when it is opened.... I could do something with killing the pid of the script and re-initializing it... i think
[18:38:39] <Aelius> nah, it wouldnt be worth the cpu
[18:39:18] <Aelius> i'd be fine with having to reactivate it on every close
[18:39:45] <jagsph__> Aelius: I can do a screen brightness changing script that also did the keyboard lights... it would have to be an on demand sort of deal...
[18:40:09] <jagsph__> That was a big complaint for me when I went to dennys and tried to use their wifi.....
[18:40:18] <jagsph__> I was like... crap i cant see anything heh
[18:40:41] <Aelius> i'll give you better suggestions later ;>
[18:41:23] <jagsph__> How about the window behavior....
[18:41:46] <jagsph__> im pretty happy with it myself..
[18:41:52] <Aelius> yeah
[18:42:30] <Aelius> in cmd 90 percent here, no complaints
[18:42:30] <Adnyxo> it would be nice if the keymap used the side buttons as page up and page down
[18:42:43] <Adnyxo> at least i keep trying to do that while surfing the web
[18:42:52] <Aelius> prev next does that
[18:43:07] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: Heh I wonder what they are being used for right now
[18:43:10] <Adnyxo> with mouse on or off
[18:43:15] <Adnyxo> plus and minux
[18:43:59] <jagsph__> ah. yeh i havent even tried them
[18:44:55] <jagsph__> Seriously though if you kill rox-filer its a lot faster.
[18:45:03] <Adnyxo> what does rox filler do
[18:45:13] <jagsph__> The desktop icons, and its also the file manager
[18:45:21] <jagsph__> When its the desktop icons it kills the system
[18:45:29] <Adnyxo> but i like those
[18:45:41] <Aelius> lol i dont need em
[18:45:42] <Adnyxo> iwlist eth1 scanning
[18:45:49] <Adnyxo> oops wrong window
[18:46:02] <jagsph__> Well you can keep them. Il removing them from the next release but allow them to be enabled.
[18:46:43] <Adnyxo> okay
[18:47:04] <Adnyxo> damn fedora is taking all day to dl
[18:47:11] <jagsph__> Theres a bug in the current release for the quick scan in the script. I forgot to put a read nothing in it so it just clears the scren
[18:47:31] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: what do you like about redhat?
[18:48:52] <jagsph__> I cant stand the rpm packaging.
[18:49:07] <Adnyxo> ive never tried it
[18:49:14] <Adnyxo> but im distro hopping right now
[18:49:24] <Adnyxo> thanks to rkdavis bashing me about using kubuntu
[18:49:26] <jagsph__> fedora =redhat heh sorry
[18:49:40] <Adnyxo> tried xubuntu, linux mint, now fedora
[18:49:51] <jagsph__> anything with KDE is pretty horrible......
[18:49:53] <Adnyxo> yea ive never tried fedora
[18:50:01] <Adnyxo> do you have a fav distro?
[18:50:15] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: debian based currently.
[18:50:18] <Adnyxo> ill probably end up trying all of them if i dont fall in love with one
[18:50:30] <Adnyxo> .deb is wonderful
[18:50:35] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: i would actually recommend installing ubuntu-server and apt-get installing lxde
[18:50:49] <jagsph__> lxde is a very good desktop environment imo
[18:51:00] <Adnyxo> perhaps ill try that next
[18:51:14] <Adnyxo> odds are ill leave fedora as soon as i get it configured right
[18:51:22] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: if you install the gnome network manager its just like using gnome without all the crap.
[18:51:35] <Adnyxo> i kinda want to try suse with gnome
[18:51:35] <jagsph__> the gnome network manager is all i need heh
[18:51:45] <Adnyxo> im tired of kde, you guys are right
[18:51:50] <Adnyxo> its not that great
[18:52:29] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: its about customizing it to your likes.... thats why ubuntu-server is so great, since everything usually works oob in ubuntu, you install the server and get the lxde environment, and add what you like in
[18:53:01] <jagsph__> Ive got VLC instead of totem for my player, and im using OSS4 instead of alsa...
[18:53:07] <jagsph__> and I dont have that stupid pulse-audio server
[18:56:57] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: there are some offensive things in here... but this is how i have it set up...... its really simple. i havent even customized it yet... http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/871/basicdesktop.jpg
[18:57:30] <Aelius> kde is terrible
[18:57:53] <Aelius> especially the windows port
[18:58:08] <jagsph__> Aelius: true, kde was good when it first came out. It was downhill after version 1.0
[18:59:43] <jagsph__> I am just very impressed with the team at lxde.org... they know what people want.
[19:00:47] <jagsph__> http://kde.org/screenshots/images/medium/ganroth.jpg I used to have that theme heh
[19:02:29] <jagsph__> gnome and kde make it feel like im using windows... i dont want that experience.
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[19:07:22] <jagsph__> Aelius, Adnyxo: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=151&t=22891
[19:08:07] <Adnyxo> 0o i like it
[19:08:22] <jagsph__> thats lxde on linux mint....
[19:08:35] <jagsph__> Theres supposedly an iso of it somewhere with lxde as default install
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[19:09:55] <Aelius> how would i copy in irssi
[19:10:10] <jagsph__> Aelius: in reference to what
[19:10:19] <Aelius> lol, ctrl c is an unfortunate overlap
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[19:10:31] <Aelius> that link you just sent
[19:10:46] <jagsph__> Aelius: it uses ubuntu repos, apt-get install irssi
[19:11:00] <Aelius> no, im in irssi
[19:11:07] <jagsph__> oh
[19:11:10] <jagsph__> select the text
[19:11:14] <jagsph__> leave it selected...
[19:11:14] <Aelius> i want to copy that link
[19:11:17] <Aelius> k
[19:11:25] <jagsph__> go to browser and press both mouse buttons at once in the goto url
[19:11:34] <jagsph__> left+right button = paste
[19:12:01] <Adnyxo> okay i need some help installing fedora on my 4 gig flash drive
[19:12:23] <Adnyxo> usb creator thing that works for all debian based distros wont work
[19:12:34] <Adnyxo> does one of you know of a good guide
[19:12:37] <jagsph__> because its an rpm based distro heh
[19:13:15] <jagsph__> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo
[19:13:23] <jagsph__> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-fedora-9-to-a-flash-drive-using-windows/
[19:13:53] <Adnyxo> thanks
[19:14:20] <theubermensche> I use unetbootin on windows
[19:15:20] <Aelius> jagsph__: not workin :<
[19:15:26] <Aelius> ill look later
[19:15:34] <Aelius> save that link for me
[19:15:36] <Adnyxo> lol unetbootin is great
[19:15:36] <jagsph__> Aelius: its hard to do on the Z2
[19:16:13] <jagsph__> Aelius: the linux mint one right? ill put it in the pastebin
[19:17:37] <jagsph__> aelius: how about this http://tinyurl.com/yaypoa2 easier?
[19:19:03] <Aelius> jagsph__: my issue is paste
[19:19:07] <Aelius> not copy
[19:19:14] <Aelius> into links
[19:19:33] <jagsph__> yeh i figured you could type it it out if u really wanted to see it with a short url
[19:19:40] <Aelius> k
[19:19:44] <jagsph__> its also in the pastebin if u want to look later
[19:19:52] <Aelius> thnx
[19:20:47] <Adnyxo> so, about adding a bigger display to the zipit
[19:20:53] <Adnyxo> i mean higher res
[19:21:11] <jagsph__> rkdavis says it can be done easilly
[19:21:29] <Adnyxo> i want a 480 by 2 whatever
[19:21:36] <Adnyxo> i can solder some
[19:21:55] <Adnyxo> he would a touch display work? that would help with the mouse thing
[19:22:08] <Adnyxo> wishfull thinking
[19:22:36] <jagsph__> i think that might require some sort of controller to be attached either via serial or usb
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[19:25:15] <Aelius> i feel like the cpu wouldnt like touch
[19:27:16] <jagsph__> it wouldnt effect it
[19:27:28] <jagsph__> its just a simple input like a mouse.
[19:32:03] <jagsph__> Is redhat violating gpl?
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[19:32:50] <jagsph__> nm. found their src rpms.
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[19:43:41] <Adnyxo> 99 % hurry up!
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[19:45:45] <jagsph__> hacker
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[19:48:09] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: what are u looking for in a distribution? when you install an iso of ubuntu/fedora/whatever with the desktop, u are getting what they think u want.
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[20:05:49] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: what are u looking for in a distribution? when you install an iso of ubuntu/fedora/whatever with the desktop, u are getting what they think u want.
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[20:12:57] <Adnyxo> idk what im looking for
[20:15:03] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: imo you should stick with a distro which has a large community support base and a huge assortment of packaged software
[20:15:35] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: and try customizing it how you like. in the old days you would start out with a base install and you would add what you wanted.
[20:17:30] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: also the 2 oldest distributions that i am aware of today are slackware, and debian
[20:18:06] <jagsph__> Adnyxo: fedora/centos are also from the ancient redhat distribution
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[20:36:07] <Aelius> hey jagsph , minor error
[20:36:10] <jagsph> .
[20:36:22] <Aelius> returning to wep after having been connected to wpa
[20:36:24] <Aelius> wont connect
[20:36:38] <jagsph> killall wpa_supplicant
[20:36:40] <jagsph> ?
[20:38:11] <Aelius> that seemed to fix it
[20:38:19] <Aelius> not quite done yet...
[20:38:25] <Aelius> ok its good
[20:38:35] <jagsph> ill add that to the scripts
[20:39:07] <Aelius> k
[20:39:35] <Aelius> would it be possible to have alt toggle?
[20:39:42] <jagsph> ?
[20:39:51] <Aelius> alt on, types numbers
[20:39:59] <Aelius> without holding it down
[20:40:09] <jagsph> thats something for rkdavis... i really dont know
[20:40:28] <Aelius> k
[20:40:40] <jagsph> it has to do with the keymap ill do some reading and see what i can come up with. i dont think its possible
[20:40:52] <Aelius> I was surprised the original kernel didnt have it set up as
[20:41:10] <Aelius> press alt, then the next press is under alt
[20:41:50] <Aelius> like on the HP laptops; you press fn, then you press the next key
[20:41:53] <Aelius> you don't hold it down
[20:42:20] <Aelius> how do you press alt 1 gracefully?
[20:42:20] <Aelius> lol
[20:42:32] <jagsph> Maybe .... im sure theres a way to do it
[20:42:41] <jagsph> I just dont know how HEH
[20:43:09] <jagsph> It would probably make it alt for every key not just the numerics
[20:43:28] <Aelius> well, yes I expect it would
[20:43:37] <Aelius> just an example
[20:44:03] <Aelius> my root password is long, and it's a pain to hold down alt
[20:44:15] <jagsph> Aelius: just type op shell
[20:44:30] <jagsph> :)
[20:44:40] <Aelius> wow you are smart
[20:44:44] <Aelius> :)
[20:44:56] <jagsph> I was sick of typing debian
[20:45:00] <Aelius> I always take the long way around... if you havent noticed yet
[20:45:12] <jagsph> Well, you didnt know that was set up.
[20:45:42] <jagsph> look @ /etc/op/op.conf
[20:46:07] <Aelius> another suggestion; the script gave me 180 seconds to save my work. then it ignored the fact that I plugged in the power
[20:47:18] <jagsph> Im not sure how exactly how to cancel a shutdown at this point. I can put a low power warning back in before the shutdown
[20:47:46] <jagsph> nevermind i know how to
[20:48:13] <jagsph> I can use shutdown to start a shutdown on its own timer, and it has a cancel option
[20:48:24] <Aelius> yeah, isnt it as simple as like, shutdown -a
[20:48:35] <jagsph> I completely forgot about that.
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[20:53:28] <Mcavity> evening
[20:53:39] <Aelius> hey
[20:53:42] <Mcavity> working on another new image jagsph?
[20:53:47] <Mcavity> hey Aelius
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[20:57:41] <Adnyxo> so im gonna install fedora now
[20:57:44] <Adnyxo> see you in a few
[20:58:53] <Mcavity> enjoy
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[21:02:14] <Adnyxo> hey theres lxde based fedora!
[21:02:24] <Adnyxo> or a lxde fedora spin!
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[21:05:11] <jagsph> Aelius: I was able to get a menu set up that allows you to cancel the shutdown
[21:05:55] <Mcavity> cool
[21:05:55] <Aelius> sweet
[21:07:20] <Aelius> screen is being a little shit, so I'll detach and restart my terminal to update its config and I wont be able to reattach
[21:07:36] <Mcavity> hey jagsph if you set the powermanagement script to check an external file for brightness values would that be easyer to set on the fly?
[21:07:54] <jagsph> I already made a script for it
[21:08:14] <jagsph> Want it?
[21:08:17] <Mcavity> ok
[21:08:45] <jagsph> http://zipit.pastebin.com/f2bfe2626
[21:08:50] <jagsph> it needs to be run as root
[21:09:59] <Mcavity> ok ill try it out. quake is much better at about 1000 brightness =)
[21:10:13] <jagsph> In the next release its going to be in the menu
[21:10:27] <Mcavity> rest of the time 500 is fine lol
[21:10:34] <Mcavity> niftyness
[21:10:50] <Mcavity> yay zipit palm top
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[21:14:10] <Mcavity> oh i told you i install ntp?
[21:14:37] <jagsph> i think so
[21:18:10] <Mcavity> it runs and the system updates.. but the onscreen clock on the desktop.. not so good at the updateing.
[21:18:47] <Mcavity> example desktop clok says its 8:02
[21:19:12] <Mcavity> date command says Sun Feb 7 20:18:52 CST 2010
[21:19:41] <Mcavity> miner thing i though i should thow into the buglist lol
[21:20:25] <jagsph> im a little bit tired right now, but isnt that a proper conversion from military to standard time?
[21:22:56] <Mcavity> well yes.. except
[21:23:03] <Mcavity> it should read 8:20
[21:23:27] <Mcavity> the desktop clock is still at 8:02..
[21:24:15] <Mcavity> [im not 100% that the hour will update eaither]
[21:24:37] <jagsph> if that clock is not updating theres a problem with lxde
[21:24:59] <Mcavity> humm
[21:25:10] <Aelius> jagsph: what's your pastebin?
[21:25:15] <Foxx> jagsph, PM
[21:25:22] <jagsph> Aelius: i posted it on this pastebin
[21:25:46] <Mcavity> its not a major thing.just something i noticed.
[21:26:27] <jagsph> my clock format on my desktop is %r
[21:26:32] <Mcavity> [i figured having ntp running would get rid of a few headached when it came to seting time everytime the battery died
[21:26:35] <jagsph> I dont know if that makes a difference
[21:28:20] <Aelius> would anyone know why screen wont reattach?
[21:28:55] <jagsph> maybe its already attached and you need to detach it from the other location first
[21:29:23] <Aelius> nope, its detached, and my usual routine calls the -d switch
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[21:31:27] <Aelius> yeah it wont reattach at all
[21:31:42] <Aelius> I called up another terminal and did screen -raAd
[21:31:59] <Aelius> disconnects the first one as expected, but doesnt attach
[21:32:30] <jagsph> maybe you dont have a proper login terminal
[21:32:31] <Aelius> it starts another screen, so that screen -list shows a detached and dead
[21:33:25] <jagsph> Aelius: is screen setuid ?
[21:33:38] <Aelius> no idea
[21:33:45] <jagsph> $ ls -l `which screen`
[21:33:45] <jagsph> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root utmp 328388 May 3 2009 /usr/bin/screen
[21:33:54] <jagsph> does it have an "S" flag like that
[21:33:55] <Aelius> Idid it from the standard terminal, no luck
[21:34:02] <Aelius> oh yes, it has the S flag
[21:34:37] <jagsph> im at a loss as to why it wont work
[21:35:33] <Aelius> under cygwin... but it used to work
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[21:50:47] <jagsph> Would anyone be interested in a mini sd pre-loaded with the latest Z2 rootfs?
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[22:19:09] <Mcavity> what happened jagsph?
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[23:25:55] <rkdavis> evening all
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[23:32:08] <Aelius> jagsph: I know a good feature
[23:32:19] <Aelius> a freaking pipe :)
[23:32:25] <Aelius> |
[23:32:45] <Aelius> like, ps -ax | less
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[23:59:15] <rkdavis> Aelius: the pipe isn't on the alt-:) key?
[23:59:38] <Aelius> havent tried it
[23:59:45] <Aelius> heh
[23:59:47] <Aelius> alt smile