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<Foxx> |
ogmious09, I noticed |
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<Foxx> |
im working on a NAND Flash cart for it |
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<Foxx> |
ive got too many open projects going on at once, the didj is on the back burner |
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<Val1um> |
oh hi |
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<Aelius> |
yeah I do that too. I start a bucket of things and end up doing nothing |
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<Foxx> |
I just got this WinCE based GPS, within 15 minutes was able to drop into the WinCE desktop, and the battery ran out |
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<Foxx> |
need to rework a charger for it, it only cam with a cigerette lighter style one |
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<Foxx> |
I tend to have a lot of projects, but they all interweave with each other |
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<Aelius> |
mine are always unrelated |
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<rkdavis> |
ok that was fun |
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<Val1um> |
Foxx a regular 12v1A adapter should work for such a device |
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<Foxx> |
im a hardware hacker, I can manage |
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<Foxx> |
but thanks |
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<Aelius> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
probably not a good idea to continue my attempts to under/overclock the zipit until i have met up with foxx |
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<Foxx> |
>:} |
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<rkdavis> |
it got rather warm then and the lcd wasn't happy |
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<Foxx> |
really?? |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: not that it's actually an real use but i found an intersting pdf today |
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<Foxx> |
"Introduction to molecular bonds and decompositions?" |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/application_notes/xapp914.pdf |
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<Foxx> |
"US Army Field Manual: Outting the sexually unwanted" ? |
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<rkdavis> |
aka connecting intel pxa27z to a harddisk |
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<Val1um> |
sorry, I'm actually on the zipit rightnow, anyone know the slash command for getting the channel userlist/user count? |
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<rkdavis> |
wouldn't actually be any good on the zipit but maybe you'll come across a more hackable pxa27x system :) |
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<Foxx> |
I have some already |
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<Foxx> |
some PDAs |
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<Foxx> |
only thing is I cant fo BGA rework |
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<Foxx> |
there is no way to really piggy-back a BGA... anything |
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<Foxx> |
I was looking into how to hook up a CMOS camera to the N2 though |
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<Foxx> |
Z2* |
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<rkdavis> |
i found loads of stuff about that today |
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<Foxx> |
I know the dock has the connecitons, its a matter of hookups for it, and software drivers |
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<Foxx> |
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7904 |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: the drivers are part of linux kernel |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, im not a software hacker |
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<Foxx> |
:{ |
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<Foxx> |
strictly hardware |
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<rkdavis> |
i have been digging in it today found lots cool stuff |
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<Foxx> |
ive gotta go AFK for a bit, I have some lab work that needs to get done ASAP, ill BBL |
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<rkdavis> |
Foxx: what kernel do you have on your zipit atm? |
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<valium1> |
ah nuts, it got quiet |
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<Val1um> |
I know right? |
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<Aelius> |
wow, really? |
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<valium1> |
really what lol? |
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<valium1> |
yes, I'm logged on twice, once on the zipit, the second on my PC |
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<valium1> |
fiddling with the z2shell |
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<valium1> |
I got tired of flashing the durn thing back and forth from stock to openzipit and back again |
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<Aelius> |
that works well? I've not met someone who's tried |
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<valium1> |
it's actually really easy |
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<Aelius> |
on that note, why would you do that |
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<valium1> |
well, the linux doesnt work with the headphone jack |
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<valium1> |
openzipit, that is |
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<Aelius> |
ah, I've not tried that either |
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<valium1> |
and I think the stock OS is actually really intuative |
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<Aelius> |
yeah but |
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<Aelius> |
it doesnt do anything |
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<Aelius> |
its like, a mac |
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<Aelius> |
:) |
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<valium1> |
and that if you can load openembedded of the card, then why not just go that route |
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<valium1> |
it DOES get the streaming radio, which is probably the feature I like most |
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<valium1> |
although, zipitwireess only lets you chosse fromo a very small list |
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<Aelius> |
well I did buy the zipit for the linux |
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<Aelius> |
I have dedicated devices for music / other features |
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<valium1> |
as did I |
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<valium1> |
that and the good price |
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<valium1> |
so far, I've found the z2shell that rayhague put up today to be the easiest to work with |
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<valium1> |
just insert card and go. |
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<valium1> |
no flashing, no fidling with any keymaps, it just works. |
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<Aelius> |
link to that? |
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<valium1> |
but speaking of flashing, getting back to stock after you have flashed is really simple, as long as you have the backup that the original flasher made |
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<valium1> |
link, yeah, lemme find it |
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<valium1> |
http://rayhaque.blogspot.com/search/label/IZ2S |
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<valium1> |
posted today. |
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<valium1> |
anyhow, flashing back to stock is as simple as "dd if=/path/to/orig.kernel.bin of=/dev/mtdblock1" |
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<valium1> |
let that run and reset, and it's done |
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<valium1> |
done it 3 times already |
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<Aelius> |
oh, I thought you would just start it up with the kernel.bin |
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<valium1> |
ah, hello soundguy |
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<valium1> |
well, flashing isn't really all that difficult either way, as long as you can dd a file |
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<Aelius> |
according to the video, the headjack works |
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<Aelius> |
headphone jac |
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<Aelius> |
radio too. |
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<valium1> |
not on soundguy/jagsph 's latest rc1 |
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<valium1> |
or at least, it didn't for me |
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<valium1> |
it might in the RC0 |
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<Aelius> |
you could probably get cmus.. |
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<valium1> |
the music worked fine, as did the speaker |
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<valium1> |
the system just didnt recognie the fact that I had headphones plugged in |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i have 3 more to put up tomorrow but here are 3 semiuseful tools. http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/lid http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/acpower http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/powerbtn |
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<valium1> |
newer systems like this, the HP jack is a seperate sound I/) device |
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<rkdavis> |
they return 0 for off/closed and 1 for on/open (255 for error) of the lib, ac power and powerbtn and they are built for iz2s |
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<valium1> |
rk, are those shell scripts or binaries? |
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<rkdavis> |
binaries |
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<valium1> |
ah, binaries, okay |
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<rkdavis> |
tomorrow a screen on/off and kbled on/off binaries |
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<rkdavis> |
then hopefully a over/underclocker if i get my head around arm assembly |
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<valium1> |
an overclocker?? |
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<valium1> |
good god man |
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<rkdavis> |
well it should be simple but my tests today were very hairy but seems to almost be right |
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<rkdavis> |
it's actually the underclocker part i am interested in |
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<Aelius> |
yeah, that'd be good |
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<rkdavis> |
doesn't take much power to im or browse the web but might increase battery life |
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<Aelius> |
will the clock be set, or auto adjusting as needed? |
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<valium1> |
I do know, that the PXA is running @ 312MHz and thats half the rated full speed |
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<rkdavis> |
set to start as that's about my knowledge level atm but hopefully i'll be able to do somehting better |
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<valium1> |
612 being the top that I've seen documented. |
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<rkdavis> |
well it's all semantics as to get that speed the faff around with turco, half turbo and run |
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<rkdavis> |
and 90% of systems seem to run at 312mhz i.e.e the zipit as turbo of 1.5 and run of 320 which it classifies as 312 |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, what development platform do you use? |
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<valium1> |
that is, what are you coding on? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: i'm working on stock stuff so scratch box and firmware linux |
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<rkdavis> |
inside a virtualbox vm |
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<valium1> |
this may sound like a daft question, but does SDL require X11 ? |
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<rkdavis> |
no |
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<rkdavis> |
sdl can use framebuffer |
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<valium1> |
I honestly havent actually done anything with SDL before, so I wasnt sure |
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<rkdavis> |
i used it alot around 2002, wrote some language wrappers for it and a pokemon based clone of a platform game with it |
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<valium1> |
I just want to se about getting fceu to run |
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<valium1> |
I know it CAN |
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<valium1> |
I just want to see if I can get it to work so I can pop in the card and be playing all my retro favorites |
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<valium1> |
granted, I've only had this thing for a day, but I can see a lot of potential in this little device |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: one of the reasons i am keeping at least one zipit stock and using z2shell is it's easy and safe and well funn |
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<rkdavis> |
and i'd like to get some more graphics stuff on it |
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<valium1> |
thats my reason for flashing BACK to the stock kernel, iz2s is faster, works better, and I can still have the built in stuff, if I want |
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<rkdavis> |
i love what others have done with newer kernels but the stock and it's limitations are fun to get around |
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<rkdavis> |
i miss alot of the stuff in /sys but there are work arounds |
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<rkdavis> |
if you are going to build stuff for iz2s then you should setup a scratchbox dev box |
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<valium1> |
doing that now |
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<valium1> |
I have an Ubuntu machine setup specifically for development |
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<rkdavis> |
ray will be doing a new vm soon after he's done his complete rebuild |
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<valium1> |
sometimes VS288 makes me scream |
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<valium1> |
no need for a VM, I have 2 PCs, one win7 the other Ubuntu Karmic (9.10) |
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<valium1> |
and then theres the C64 sitting next to it, but thats another story |
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<rkdavis> |
yup 2 commie64s here too |
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<valium1> |
I actually have the SX-64 |
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<rkdavis> |
hate thee things always did but they were free so wth |
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<rkdavis> |
one of my first programming jobs was on an sx-64 with the cp/m thingy |
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<rkdavis> |
porting s/w i wrote for cp/m 2.2 on a sanyo mbc3000 to it |
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<valium1> |
oh god, why would you do that? |
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<Foxx> |
dont even open that can of worms |
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<Foxx> |
trust me |
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<rkdavis> |
because it was 1984 |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<ogmious09> |
ah ha |
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<ogmious09> |
rkdavis: came out to play |
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<rkdavis> |
well bed time for me back in the morning |
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<ogmious09> |
http://www.linux-netbook.com/lemote-yeeloong-8089 |
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<ogmious09> |
nah come on rkdavis, we need you, stick around have some coffee, code something |
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<rkdavis> |
canna cat and wife are telling me i'm typing too loud |
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<ogmious09> |
got cotton? |
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<rkdavis> |
and i have to go out early |
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<rkdavis> |
tomorrow |
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<valium1> |
dangit. anyone got an estimated charge time for the z2? |
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<ogmious09> |
Aw, allright |
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<ogmious09> |
it's not fair though |
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<valium1> |
keeps telling me it cant find files that are clearly there >_> |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<Mcavity_> |
morning rkdavis |
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<Mcavity_> |
jagsph__ you awake? |
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<rkdavis> |
he's always awake and if he isn't he should be because you need him |
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<Mcavity_> |
hehe |
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<Mcavity_> |
thats right dammit! |
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<rkdavis> |
and didn't he know that by default he has to be at the beck and call of everyone in hear :) |
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<rkdavis> |
/shear/here |
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<Mcavity_> |
yup! |
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<Mcavity_> |
actualy i ahve info for hime |
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<Mcavity_> |
have too |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<Mcavity_> |
looks liek hak5 did a segment on his image.. but.. im a bit worried about some stuff that may need to be fixed. |
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<rkdavis> |
phew good job i only had to change one byte there, i ran (am testing) my screenoff command and forgot to ssh into the zipit so i couldn't see to get the screen back |
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<Mcavity_> |
ahh |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: cool, i keep seeing the hak5 thingy about zipit's but never seem to have time to check it out |
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<Mcavity_> |
http://www.hak5.org/ |
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<Mcavity_> |
basicly i thinkthey are following hunters site |
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<Mcavity_> |
i just think that jagsph__ might want to remove any rom files from the image taht are not public domain.. |
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<Mcavity_> |
dont want anyone geting pissy |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh i knew there was a reson i hadn't watched it in about 4 years, they annoy me |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: yup he is really supposed to remove the wifi firmware too but that's just a technicallity |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea well its not like its on nbc or anything but still |
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<rkdavis> |
yup, best to err on the side of caution |
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<muriani> |
ah, I'd forgotten about the wifi firmware |
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<rkdavis> |
it's not a biggy other than he needs a way to inject the users firmware from the zipit into his image on windows too |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea well it sucks. but hes done such a good job id hate to see him have to stop |
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<muriani> |
well, there's ext2 drivers for windows |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: well as long as he removed the roms he isn't allowed to /distribute/ it's null problemo |
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<muriani> |
but I don't remember if it allows write or just read. |
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<rkdavis> |
muriani: they aren't great, about 40% of the time they don't work |
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<rkdavis> |
he could use the fat partition thing BUT he has to do it the right way though, the fat partition MUST be the first partition on the sd card, which everyone forgets |
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<muriani> |
right |
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<rkdavis> |
and he'd need to check that his kernel and fstab etc. is setup correctly for that |
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<Mcavity_> |
none found a redistibutable driver for the chipset yet? |
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<Mcavity_> |
since its the same chip as iphone i had hope.. |
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<rkdavis> |
nope. and there almost certianly will never be one |
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<Mcavity_> |
bla.. need someone smart to reverse engenere one |
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<muriani> |
what's the same chip as the iphone? |
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<muriani> |
oh, for the wifi? |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: there is apparently the firmware source code on one of those chinese sites but never been able to get in with the download rights |
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<Mcavity_> |
the wifi chip from my understanding |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the chip inside is actually pretty powerful but none of the drivers will put in into promiscious mode or ap mode |
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<rkdavis> |
probably apple squashing any developement for that stuff |
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<Mcavity_> |
bla |
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<rkdavis> |
as they won't want that on the itouch/phone/pad |
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<muriani> |
oh, so it's all nifty like atheros? |
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<Mcavity_> |
<thinks the ipad is kinda brain dead.. only nice thing is.. should have good batt life |
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<rkdavis> |
in theory the chip CAN do ap/mesh mode and promiscious mode BUT no drivers to do that |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: i like the formfactor of the ipad and soem of the stuff it can do/be used for but apple are b******ds and crippled it too much -- even worse than hp for that type of thing |
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<muriani> |
actually, the more I see of the UI for the iPad, the more I like it |
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<muriani> |
but yeah, it's been neutered. |
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<rkdavis> |
all they need to actually do for me to want/buy an itiuch for myself is add a camera, add that as now the sd card slot thing is mitigated and i'd plunk down the cash if i had the cash |
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<muriani> |
and it's not like they couldn't add a camera... the nano has one. |
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<muriani> |
with video recording, even! |
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<rkdavis> |
it was lack of camera and sd card slot that has stopped me from buying an itouch for myself (other than lack of money) and i hate apple :) |
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<muriani> |
I've a 4th-gen nano |
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<rkdavis> |
the sd card slot is now a moot point when the airstash comes out although it does have one niggle |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e. the airstash acts as an ap so while using it you can't be on th einna'webs |
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<muriani> |
only reason I got that instead of the Zune was because MS is a bitch with interfacing on the zune |
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<muriani> |
so no 3rd-party sync tools |
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<muriani> |
winamp works with the iPod, so it won. |
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<rkdavis> |
the airstash looks nice though and very handy, should be usable on the zipit too :) |
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<muriani> |
transcodes all my stuff on the fly when needed |
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<muriani> |
and my car stereo interfaces with the iPod |
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<muriani> |
so overall, best choice was apple in this case >_< |
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<rkdavis> |
morning marex |
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<Mcavity_> |
am i the only person who gets permission denied when i try and telnet to the current image ? |
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<rkdavis> |
probably :) your zipit hates you |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, hi |
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<JimSP> |
Hey all |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: I saw your palm/opie cpufreqapplet, it using the device driver or is it manipulating the pxa27x registers directly? |
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<JimSP> |
Does anyone know where the script for the wireless configuration utility on the desktop is located? |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, that's ancient |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, but it already used the cpufreq sysfs interface |
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<muriani> |
alright, off to work |
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<muriani> |
and then ot install and configure a server at a customer site :/ |
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<Mcavity_> |
JimSP yes someone does know.. but i dont know if they are here right now.. lol |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: ah ok, i can't /borrow/ it then, no device driver for it on the stock kernel atm |
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<rkdavis> |
i was hoping it was using the assembly code method to muck around with the registers as my version i wrote last might nearly killed my zipit |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, what?! |
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<marex> |
rkdavis, you mean that ancient .21 ? |
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<marex> |
yes, that one missed cpufreq |
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<marex> |
but the new ones support it very well |
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<rkdavis> |
marex: yes, i'm playing alot with stock kernel (.21) and iz2s these days |
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<Mcavity_> |
RK yea i dont think clocking the zipit at 1.2ghz is a good idea.. |
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<rkdavis> |
so i'm trying to add what i can to it |
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<Mcavity_> |
heheh |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: 1.2ghz, are you nuts? i was trying for 3ghz |
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<Mcavity_> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
everything was fine until it started glowing white hot |
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<Mcavity_> |
i can tell.. year realy want to see Quake 2 at 30fps.. |
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<jagsph__> |
jimsp: /usr/share/netconfig/main |
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<Mcavity_> |
hi jagsph__ |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: actually i was planning on running crysis |
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<Mcavity_> |
ahh |
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<Mcavity_> |
is anyone else here running jagsph__ userland? |
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<rkdavis> |
heh i must stil not be awake. tried to copy a file using english "copy screenon.c to screenoff.c" on a linux box |
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<Mcavity_> |
lets see if this fixes it.. |
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<jagsph__> |
mcavity_sorry im a little busy |
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<jagsph__> |
rkdavis: farcry2 its more intense than crysis. i want to run farcry 2 on the z2 |
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<Mcavity_> |
is ok jagsph__ |
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<Mcavity_> |
just wanted to let you know hack5 did a ting on your userland |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph__: well i'm not uptodate on games these days |
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<jagsph__> |
? |
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<jagsph__> |
hack5? |
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<Mcavity_> |
hak5 |
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<Mcavity_> |
http://www.hak5.org/ |
| [10:04:55] |
<jagsph__> |
negative or positive |
| [10:05:02] |
<Mcavity_> |
think they have been folowing hunters blog |
| [10:05:24] |
<Mcavity_> |
oh very posative.. however.. they did notice the nintendo roms... |
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<jagsph__> |
lol |
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<jagsph__> |
how did that pan out. i dont have time to check right now |
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<Mcavity_> |
i might try grabing some stuff from here http://www.pdroms.de/ |
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<Mcavity_> |
i know the scumm game is PD .. but dont want nintendo getting pissy. |
| [10:10:49] |
<Mcavity_> |
and maybe sunday or monday if you get some time you can help me get the auto login script working. i have a HomeNet setup, but eventhough i uncomented the line it wont activate. |
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<muriani> |
oh, there's N roms included? |
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<muriani> |
I didn't notice that |
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<muriani> |
that needs to go, yes. |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea i figure a few pd roms should be fine |
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<muriani> |
what the end users do with their roms is their business, but redistributing them in an image is danger |
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<Gnuet> |
will robinson, danger! |
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<Gnuet> |
hak5 is so.... mainstream. |
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<Mcavity_> |
kinda.. but not.. |
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<Mcavity_> |
its still geek tv |
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<muriani> |
hm, gameboy runs nice |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea it does |
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<Mcavity_> |
but then.. this thing runs quake. |
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<muriani> |
lol |
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<muriani> |
BADLY |
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<muriani> |
(on my zipit, for unknown reason) |
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<jagsph__> |
Seriously? it runs it pretty well.... |
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<Mcavity_> |
muriani.. it runs well for me |
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<muriani> |
so everyone says |
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<muriani> |
I run it and it pegs CPU and runs like aaaaassssss |
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<Gnuet> |
quake, love those nullmodem+modem+modem 3ppl deathmatches preinterwebz :D |
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<jagsph__> |
Muriani, mcavity: ill do a new technology demo release and remove the old one. |
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<Mcavity_> |
jag.. got 1 or 2 very quick fixes if you want em =) |
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<jagsph__> |
Gnuet: the quake binary is SDLquake. its compatible with everything not-quake-world so you could theoretically play with others |
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<jagsph__> |
sure |
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<Mcavity_> |
put in the non buged power management.. change inet.conf so telnet is root [or fix the telnet account?] and get homenet autologin to work? |
| [10:20:51] |
<jagsph__> |
ok. its very odd because i have extracted the tgz 4 times and my telnet works every time =\ |
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<Mcavity_> |
the inetd.conf i know fixed the problem of "access denied" when trying to telnet in. but i had to install dropbear to ssh in to fix that lol. |
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<Mcavity_> |
muriani can you telanet into yours? |
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<Mcavity_> |
both images i get the same problem jagsph__ so i dont know whats up. |
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<muriani> |
I have no net connection on mine atm |
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<Mcavity_> |
oh. |
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<Mcavity_> |
lot of help you are! |
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<Mcavity_> |
heh |
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<muriani> |
launched the SNES rom and it's running as bad as quake |
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<muriani> |
even worse, since all I have is a black screen >_< |
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<jagsph__> |
muriani: snes runs rather poorly |
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<muriani> |
yeah, but I had to try :P |
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<jagsph__> |
someone needs to try to optimize the code for the Z2. when you turn on the sound its unplayable |
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<muriani> |
heh |
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<muriani> |
I'll stick with my dingoo for SNES playing then |
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<muriani> |
or my SNES itself |
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<jagsph__> |
nes/gameboy run rather well |
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<Mcavity_> |
headphones do not kill scree.. so i updated powermanagement right =) |
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<jagsph__> |
someone mentioned earlier they wanted to be able to do a full network scan. im fixing that in this next release |
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<jagsph__> |
Mcavity: the latest power-management script "works" but its got a few issues. I did a rewrite of it |
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<jagsph__> |
I took a lot of features out that were not properly implemented and made it simple |
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<Mcavity_> |
ahh yea like autoshutdown if i read notes right |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok i wil say quake looks a lot better if you turn real screen brightness up |
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<jagsph__> |
something like that. I havent even posted the code |
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<Mcavity_> |
where is the runquake script? im going to try adding a brightness line |
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<jagsph__> |
/home/quake |
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<jagsph__> |
i think the brightness is +gamma or -gamma or +set gamma |
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<Mcavity_> |
no i mean real bightness .. |
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<Mcavity_> |
echo "1020" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/pwm-backlight.0/backlight/pwm-backlight.0/brightness |
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<Mcavity_> |
looks good.. i did that in telnet when game was running.. it helped. |
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<jagsph__> |
ah.... theres just one problem. I dont think you can do that unless you are root. |
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<Mcavity_> |
let me go in there see how it goes |
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<jagsph__> |
Mcavity: Super KKK Bros 2 (SMB2 Hack).nes i dont think i can post this either. even though its a hacked version of smb |
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<Mcavity_> |
http://www.pdroms.de/files/gameboy/ |
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<Mcavity_> |
i think thosue should be fine as they are homebrew PD games |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok intresting.. ther script must be looping becouse after about a min it resets the brightness of the screen |
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<jagsph__> |
yep: that was a problem with the power management script |
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<Mcavity_> |
ahh |
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<Mcavity_> |
well ill just wait on the brightness thing then =) |
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<jagsph__> |
You can edit the script. I would release another one but its just getting ridiculous now |
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<Mcavity_> |
dont worry about it =) |
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<jagsph__> |
Mcavity: do you know what the term packeting means? |
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<Mcavity_> |
not off the top of my head |
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<jagsph__> |
Well its when someone launches a denial of service attack.... generally one that saturates the bandwidth of a connection |
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<Mcavity_> |
ahh ddos |
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<jagsph__> |
I was thinking of including an mp3 of this guy who used to run denial of service attacks against users on efnet |
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<jagsph__> |
Its a little untasteful though. |
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<jagsph__> |
He prank called some people and they recorded him saying he was doing it... someone made a couple songs about him http://www.garageband.com/artist/criotek |
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<Mcavity_> |
id find a nice free mp3 |
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<jagsph__> |
im trying to find one i can wget. |
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<jagsph__> |
I found one. |
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<Mcavity_> |
cool |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok tv time fore a while.. then bed. |
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<jagsph__> |
I have temporarilly suspended access to the previous image. I have not been contacted by anyone but it contains some possibly copyrighted material. To ensure that I can continue providing this rootfs userland for the Z2, access to the old versions which contained the offending files have been temporarilly suspended. No worries though. Later today/tonight there will be a .tgz of the latest release with bugfixes. Tomorrow there will be 1gb image |
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<jagsph__> |
available for the rootfs. |
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<muriani> |
whee! |
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<muriani> |
gj. |
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<muriani> |
Grab sqrxz for the GB :) |
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<jagsph__> |
so if i make a hak10.org website i can post videos and get attnetion? |
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<des> |
sure |
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<des> |
and can say "We're 2 times better than our predecesors" |
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<Gnuet> |
^^ |
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<jagsph__> |
heh |
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<des> |
and use a catchie phrase like "hak10, it's twice 5!" |
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<des> |
of course you should also park every other hak[0-9]* which might be costly |
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<des> |
þ |
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<jagsph__> |
hak12 and a reference to 2012 |
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<ogmious09> |
hak5 is good for me to POOP on |
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<rkdavis> |
ok anyone else still running the stock kernel/app? i just finished the kbleds on/off prog |
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<Mcavity_> |
rk now waht if i only want them at 1/4 bright? |
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<Mcavity_> |
grin |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: still working on intensity stuff, the docs don't match the practice so having to experiment |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: and i have some advice for you about sex and travel |
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<Mcavity_> |
lol |
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<des> |
ok, I want them at 1/π intensity |
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<Mcavity_> |
are you telling me to go do something to myself? |
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<rkdavis> |
well th emethod i used is supposed to do that in 1023 stages but i don't see any difference between 1 and 1023 |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: or go s****w a coke can |
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<Mcavity_> |
well 1 should be off.. or right close to it.. and 1023 shoud be flashlight bright.. heheh |
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<rkdavis> |
probably need to read the pwn driver in the .29 kernel module and see what it's doing differently to what i'm doing, probably another register to muck with too |
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<Mcavity_> |
[yes im beeing sarcstic] |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: we'll all pool our pennies and buy you a sarcmark for your bithday then |
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<Mcavity_> |
where is it in the ascii character set? |
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<muriani> |
lol |
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<muriani> |
it needs to be included in unicode |
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<Mcavity_> |
@thinks its a great idea@ |
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<SB-Zipit> |
Mcavity_: Error: "thinks" is not a valid command. |
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<Mcavity_> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: in your case U+0666 |
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<rkdavis> |
can someone pastebin an "ls -alR /sys" for me please |
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<rkdavis> |
on a .29 kernel |
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<Mcavity_> |
well i would but it overflowed my telnet buffer |
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<rkdavis> |
well don't use telnet theen :) |
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<rkdavis> |
actually it's just the ones for the pwm that i am interested in |
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<rkdavis> |
just want to see what they are called |
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<rkdavis> |
so i can look them up in the kernel |
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<Mcavity_> |
so /sys/pwm ? |
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<rkdavis> |
is that where they are? |
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<rkdavis> |
oh and can you do an lsmod too pls |
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<Mcavity_> |
um you gona have to help me out here. no its not /sys/pwm |
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<Mcavity_> |
give me a command to pipe it to a file or something and ill be happy to do it. |
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<Mcavity_> |
my linux is wimpy |
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<rkdavis> |
ls -alR /sys/pwm > hold |
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<rkdavis> |
or something similar |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok |
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<rkdavis> |
ta |
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<Mcavity_> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/f70cddb13 |
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<Mcavity_> |
there you go |
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<Mcavity_> |
lsmod as well |
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<rkdavis> |
ok thnx, just to confirm the backlight.0, .1 are for the keyboard only or keyboard and lcd? |
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<Mcavity_> |
one is for kb one is for lcd |
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<rkdavis> |
ok so that means i should be able to dig out the method somehow |
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<rkdavis> |
just going to take time as i might have to look in lotsa places |
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<Mcavity_> |
well apt get ntp works.. mostly just wrong time zone.. |
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<Mcavity_> |
have no idea how to set right one just yet lol |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: is .1 the kb or the lcd? |
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<Mcavity_> |
1 is kb 0 is lcd |
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<Mcavity_> |
jagsph__ intresting note.I instaled ntp. it works setting time to universal however the cock on the desktop does not update. |
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<Mcavity_> |
[not a big deal] |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok now i realy must sleep. |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: ok thnx that means the driver makes sense then |
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<Mcavity_> |
lol |
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<Mcavity_> |
good |
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<rkdavis> |
well more sense than otherwise at least :) |
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<Mcavity_> |
ls -s /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central |
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<Mcavity_> |
that shuold set my local time setting right? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok bbiab |
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<Mcavity_> |
ah got it. yay. ok now i go. |
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<dTal> |
I broked my zipit :( |
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<dTal> |
was carrying it up the stairs, something happened and I dropped it and the battery conector on the motherboard tore partway off |
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<dTal> |
physically, it's still partly attached, but all three electrical connectors have detached |
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<dTal> |
and they're tiny and close to things and I'm scared of wrecking it completely with the soldering iron, since it will still run on AC |
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<Stiq> |
i have been reseaching this zipit z2 for the last 2 hours. after a dream i had. haha and very interested. i would like to know of any hardware hacks that have been successful. |
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<Stiq> |
bluetooth maybe? haha |
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<jagsph__> |
Stiq=Geisteriscool ? |
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<Stiq> |
yes |
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<Stiq> |
you must be the guy i have already spoken too? |
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<jagsph__> |
rkdavis mentioned something about USB. But it needs some work. |
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<jagsph__> |
yes |
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<Stiq> |
hmmm interesting |
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<Stiq> |
it be nice to have an actual mouse |
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<Stiq> |
lol |
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<jagsph__> |
As I recall, and im sure I will get corrected..... to put it as simply as I understood it... the pxa270 has usb. But to use it someone would need to remove the chip and and attach wires for the USB. |
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<Stiq> |
hmm ok i will look into that.... |
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<jagsph__> |
if rkdavis was around he could tell you everything you want to know. |
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<Stiq> |
ok |
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<Stiq> |
well i wil idel for a while |
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<ogmious09_> |
Good Morning All ! |
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<rkdavis> |
ok back or will be when i put the shopping away and put a new pot of coffee on |
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<dTal> |
I fixeded my zipit |
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<dTal> |
while I had it open I did some size tests for a USB port |
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<dTal> |
Got some clay, softened it, stuck it into various corners, and put the halves together |
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<dTal> |
There's nowhere easy, i.e. just cut a hole in the case, but there are one or two spots where a bit of internal modification would allow room for a barebones connector |
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<Aelius> |
hey, what's up with the copyright issue? |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Aelius:n ROM's, Hak5 reviewed the original userland in a webcast |
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<Aelius> |
I still don't get it |
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<Aelius> |
I watched that webcast. they used windows, somehow |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
They just did another one with Jag's userland and they mentioned the included ROM's, he's verifying everything in the package is public domain. |
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<Aelius> |
ah |
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<Aelius> |
forgot about the roms |
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<ogmious09_> |
Hak5 is good though.................Good for me to POOP on |
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<ogmious09_> |
heck just take the roms out, not like it would take more than 5 minutes on the web to replace them ourselves |
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<ogmious09_> |
I mean yeah it's possible that the popularity and Decline in sales of the NES could be a direct result in the few roms he placed in his image but I am sure Nintendo will survive |
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<dTal> |
So, what pads are mapped on the Z2? |
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<dTal> |
Also, how do I toggle GPIOs? |
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<dTal> |
(raw) |
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<ogmious09_> |
SO is there a new release of jagsph Userland coming out today or tomorrow? |
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<dTal> |
ah, nevermind, the relevant USB connections are single purpose, no remapping |
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<dTal> |
and they are buried deep inside the chip, not on the corner |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Does ZipItWireless sell an accessory for the rear connector was it for future expansion that never got done? And what is the four pin connector next to the audio plug? |
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<dTal> |
never got done |
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<dTal> |
also it only has USB client |
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<dTal> |
I wonder if, with the help of an an x-ray, you could carefully drill through to expose the usb contacts on the cpu |
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<dTal> |
erk, but then the wires would come out under the keyboard - no go |
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<dTal> |
dammit, I'm emailing ZipitWireless |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
dTal: Tell them we'd probably all buy a Z3 if they would build it with access to all the features already built into the chipset. Considering the Z2 were all selling at clearance last fall, I figure most people must be buying them to hack. |
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<dTal> |
I'd very much like to |
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<dTal> |
but I'm trying not to antagonise |
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<dTal> |
what I really want is information |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
I had the impression they knew of and tacitly supported the mod community (not including replacing bricked units of course) |
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<Reddog^> |
i thought it did have usb host, but the pins were never brought out? |
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<dTal> |
Reddog^: we don't know what all the pads do |
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<dTal> |
so it may have |
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<dTal> |
who knows? |
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<dTal> |
at any rate, there are plenty of fun things they could be besides usb - bluetooth anyone? |
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<dTal> |
the chipset has a controller |
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<Reddog^> |
well, i mean the cpu does have usb host, correct? |
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<dTal> |
Sure does. |
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<dTal> |
But we can't get to it. |
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<dTal> |
Unless they were thoughtful enough to bring it out to a pad. |
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<dTal> |
And I must say, I don't see why they would. |
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<dTal> |
On the other hand, there are a whole lot of pads. |
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<dTal> |
Who knows? |
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<dTal> |
(answer: ZipitWireless does) |
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<Reddog^> |
know anyone with access to an xray? |
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<RayHaque> |
Whats up party people? |
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<Reddog^> |
should be quite trivial to see if the pins come out to pads then |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
Is the rear connector a standard plug, closed thing I've seen is an iPod dock. |
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<dTal> |
Reddog^: You think so? It would look like a goddawful mess if you ask me |
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<Reddog^> |
well seeing as that's how they check bga chips for good joints, i'd imagine so |
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<rkdavis> |
evening all |
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<Reddog^> |
sup |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: VELCOME. |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: I have been playing with your code snippets. They are most impressive. |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: Seems like all that is left to do is to combine these with an "idle daemon" of some sort. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls widw talking at me |
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<RayHaque> |
;-) |
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<rkdavis> |
wife even |
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<RayHaque> |
She's not a widow yet. But the night is young. |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<FiftyOneFifty> |
rootnexus RC1-PRE2 is up |
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<rkdavis> |
yup i'm thinking keep the stand alone versions but put them into one app with command line options then also do one that can be daemonized too |
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<valium1> |
bleh |
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<rkdavis> |
mmmmmmmmmm yummy trader joe's cheese enchilada's :) |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: I have a nice loop going. |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: You have made my day. |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: it works as expected/wanted? |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: http://zipit.pastebin.com/m6aafbc05 |
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<rkdavis> |
there are lots of improvements to be done and more for me to learn though |
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<RayHaque> |
Oh yeah. I am running the above code with ./lidloop & |
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<RayHaque> |
I close the lid, screen and keyboard light off. Open the lid, both on. |
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<RayHaque> |
Ultimately we would probably want the keyboard light to come on with keystrokes and off with idling. But this is a great start. :-D |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: we could change the system call to be the code instead |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: Yeah. This is just for fun. :-) |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: But this is very useful stuff you have come up with. Nice work. |
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<rkdavis> |
well as long as it is usable atm we now almost have the same things as the .29 people |
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<rkdavis> |
intensity needs to be solved first though for that |
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<RayHaque> |
Yes! True that. |
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<ogmious09_> |
woopie |
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<rkdavis> |
so RayHaquewhat's the eta of 3.00? |
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<RayHaque> |
About 10 minutes. |
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<rkdavis> |
what???? i was joking :) |
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<RayHaque> |
Wait ... 10 months. I miscalculated. |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<Mcavity_> |
part i hate about wakeing up.. eyes dont work for the first 15 min or so. |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: so you compiled that prog and ran it in z2script.sh as a background task? |
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<RayHaque> |
Actually I was just running it from bash. |
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<RayHaque> |
But I am sure it would work the same if launched from the startup script. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok, wondering how it does as the last command before the own-tty |
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<RayHaque> |
Ah, hrm. |
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<RayHaque> |
Should work okay. So long as the & remains at the end. |
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<valium1> |
hi people, back |
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<valium1> |
I just had a crazy Idea |
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<valium1> |
and RayHaque you might be able to give me some insight |
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<valium1> |
We can write to the flash filesystem on the device (/mnt/ffs) right? |
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<valium1> |
why not, in the startup.sh have the option to bot to either the stock, or to the SD card? |
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<valium1> |
and depending on available space, stick a small shell on the device, so as to allow us to run a few programs directly off the device, without the need for the sd card. |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: i need to check something but doesn't seem to be turning off the screen here |
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<valium1> |
I know that I used my zipit today to troubleshoot someoines WiFi, to determine if there was a connetion seting problem, all using just iz2s |
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<rkdavis> |
ah i see the problem, paths |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: actually i can see an improveement to it anyway |
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<RayHaque> |
valium1: I have thought about that myself. I get a little nervous abotu changing things in /mnt/ffs. But it would make sense to have that option. |
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<rkdavis> |
why bother running the system() stuff if we don't need to -- so i'll put in a flag/toggle inthere |
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<RayHaque> |
valium1: I hate having to eject my card to boot to the stock os. |
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<dTal> |
valium1: I'm actually curious as to why we don't try to fit our own userland on the flash, free up the SD |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: Hey, go for it. I don't really know what I am doing in C. :-) I end up using System() a lot. |
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<rkdavis> |
RayHaque: neither do i, i'm so rusty at C that i am having to google man pages atm |
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<RayHaque> |
It took me several tries to get that loop working. |
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<rkdavis> |
but we'll do a trade. you handle setting up scratchbox vm's and populating them and i'll work on the gpio's and registers :) |
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<RayHaque> |
Hey, deal. :-D |
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<ogmious09_> |
Hey does anyone have a linux tut on getting the new UserLand running |
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<ogmious09_> |
I've been doing it with psydisk in windows |
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<Mcavity_> |
i used a ubunto live cd and just untar it to the flash card. |
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<ogmious09_> |
yeah but I need a guide on the partitioning |
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<ogmious09_> |
I got ubuntu running on this desktop |
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<valium1> |
I'll tell you what RayHaque, I'll try it first, and I'll let you know how it goes. |
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<Mcavity_> |
1 ext3 partion and 1 256 meg swap is what im using.. though my swap might be a bit big. |
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<Mcavity_> |
i used gparted |
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<Mcavity_> |
oh rkdavis what cpu is in here again? arm 4.5? |
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<rkdavis> |
pxa270 |
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<Mcavity_> |
thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
which is basically an arm |
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<RayHaque> |
I think I am going to watch a flick with the wife. |
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<RayHaque> |
Be back later! |
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<rkdavis> |
k cya |
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<Mcavity_> |
well quick google search gets me this.. |
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<Mcavity_> |
CPU pins 52 (USBH_PEN0), 54(USBH_PWR0), 58(USBH_P0) and 60(USBH_N0) witch are the CPU USB HOST 0. |
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<Mcavity_> |
CPU pins 40 (USBH_PEN1),42(USBH_PWR1), 46(USBH_P1) and 48(USBH_N1) witch are the CPU USB HOST 1. |
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<Mcavity_> |
CPU pins 52 (USBH_PEN0), 54(USBH_PWR0), 58(USBH_P0) and 60(USBH_N0) witch are the CPU USB HOST 0. |
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<Mcavity_> |
CPU pins 40 (USBH_PEN1),42(USBH_PWR1), 46(USBH_P1) and 48(USBH_N1) witch are the CPU USB HOST 1. |
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<Mcavity_> |
oops |
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<Mcavity_> |
sorry |
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<ogmious09_> |
ext3 or ext2 on the main partition Mcavity_ ? |
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<Mcavity_> |
ext 3 |
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<dTal> |
Mcavity_: workin on sumpin :) |
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<dTal> |
? |
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<Mcavity_> |
yea i think i have the tech sheet on pxa27x gona look at the pinout and see if i cant spot exactly where those usb pins are. |
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<dTal> |
Mcavity_: did that today |
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<dTal> |
funnily enough |
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<Mcavity_> |
lol ok |
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<Mcavity_> |
well? |
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<dTal> |
they're totally inaccessible :( |
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<dTal> |
the relevant ones are USBH_P and USBH_N |
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<dTal> |
also, although the pxa270 is able to remap some i/os into others |
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<dTal> |
USB isn't on that list |
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<ogmious09_> |
I'm gonna wait until yall go to sleep to make my poops on your kicks |
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<dTal> |
so our options are: |
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<rkdavis> |
Mcavity_: top right hand corner as you look at the chip |
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<dTal> |
usb to rs232 converter - will work, but is real slow |
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<dTal> |
hope that they've brought the usb out |
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<dTal> |
or hack something up with a raw gpio and a custom driver |
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<flyback> |
why would usb to rs232 be slow |
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<flyback> |
rs232 is 12kb/sec |
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<dTal> |
rs232 is slow |
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<dTal> |
that is slow |
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<dTal> |
usb is 480 mb.sec |
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<flyback> |
well then it's not going to be any slower than a real rs232 |
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<ogmious09_> |
that's usb 1.1 standards |
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<flyback> |
STUPID CANUCK |
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<flyback> |
STUPID CANUCK |
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<ogmious09_> |
USB 2.0 is 450 |
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<flyback> |
480 |
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<ogmious09_> |
firewire is 480 |
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<flyback> |
firewire is 400 |
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<dTal> |
pretty sure it's 480 |
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<dTal> |
(usb) |
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<flyback> |
but in sustained firewire would beat usb 2.0 |
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<dTal> |
irellevant |
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<ogmious09_> |
Usb 1.1 is 10 M, Usb 2.0 is 450 M |
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<flyback> |
you fail |
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<flyback> |
and uh |
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<flyback> |
you fail |
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<flyback> |
STUPID CANUCK |
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<flyback> |
STUPID CANUCK |
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<ogmious09_> |
Might be 400 but point being USB 1.1 |
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* |
flyback bites ogmious09 |
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<ogmious09_> |
Not a Canuck dingle berry |
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<ogmious09_> |
So Flyback to Nerverland |
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<flyback> |
I know I am calling you the lowest form of life |
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<ogmious09_> |
No that would be a flyback |
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<ogmious09_> |
Look it up |
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<flyback> |
you don't even know wtf a flyback is |
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<flyback> |
stupid canuck |
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<ogmious09_> |
I'll put it on Wiki for yeah |
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<dTal> |
even USB 1.1 is miles faster that rs232 |
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<dTal> |
srsly |
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<ogmious09_> |
USB 1.1 with overhead you'd get maybe 3 per sec, just saying |
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<dTal> |
3 what |
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<ogmious09_> |
3 M |
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<dTal> |
zacly |
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<dTal> |
rs232 is measured in k |
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<ogmious09_> |
Lol, guess I read your comment wrong. I'll admit when I am wrong, I guess I'm a Flyback |
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<Mcavity_> |
also cpu says it can clot to 625 hmx.. so there some room there if we ever figure out how to do that =) |
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<ogmious09_> |
Try not to gloat, it's not The Superbowl |
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<dTal> |
unfortunately raw gpio operates at 10 mhz or less |
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<flyback> |
this is a flyback |
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<flyback> |
STUPID CANUCK |
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<flyback> |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasp88nbsRw&feature=related |
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<dTal> |
which puts the absolute theoretical maximum data rate 10 mb/s |
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<dTal> |
in practice much less of course |
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<dTal> |
so even if we hooked up a raw gpio it would be too slow |
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<ogmious09_> |
Is there an ignore feature in IRC? lol |
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<dTal> |
ogmious09: /ignore [user] |
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<ogmious09_> |
Thanks Hey |
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<ogmious09_> |
Well unless you got access to an SMT machine with X-Ray the USB is prolly out, right? |
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<dTal> |
why would the x-ray help? |
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<ogmious09_> |
You could see the underside solder balls |
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<ogmious09_> |
It's what we used to use to replace BGA chips with. Without it you would usually bridge contacts |
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<flyback> |
you don't need all that |
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<dTal> |
I still don't see how being able to see them helps |
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<flyback> |
all you need is a good smt rework hot air unit |
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<dTal> |
still can't get at them |
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<ogmious09_> |
Chemical etch |
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<dTal> |
on the keyboard? |
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<ogmious09_> |
Well, yeah you don't need the X-ray just make sure you line it up correctly but it sure as in hell helps being able to see the solder grid while flowing it |
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<dTal> |
I don't think opening it up from the other side is feasable |
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<ogmious09_> |
Is it populated with the usual resistors on the other side ? |
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<ogmious09_> |
haven't taken it aprt |
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<dTal> |
take it apart and see for yourself |
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<dTal> |
it's a single pcb |
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<dTal> |
all componants on one side |
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<ogmious09_> |
Sure it's not multilayered? |
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<dTal> |
and the keyboard, with all its traces and buttons, on the other |
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<dTal> |
I'm pretty sure it is multilayered |
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<ogmious09_> |
well scratch drilling through without a schematic |
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<dTal> |
we'll see how forthcoming ZipitWireless is with technical info |
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<dTal> |
I've asked them about the pads |
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<ogmious09_> |
is there a place ont he net with pictures of the mobo? |
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<dTal> |
yeah |
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<valium1> |
I always thout that the USB pins were either host or usb, switchable with whatever meystrious ASM you would do that with |
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<valium1> |
host or client* |
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<dTal> |
valium1, fraid not |
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<valium1> |
well that sucks |
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<ogmious09_> |
dTal: in this pic http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/images/zipitback.jpg you're talking about the pads on the top in the middle, correct? |
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<dTal> |
no, I never noticed those |
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<dTal> |
I'm talking about the little gold circles that dot the other side - some of them were tapped for serial console |
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<dTal> |
but those are interesting too |
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<ogmious09_> |
Ok, so on the sides with the populated chips the random gold pads all over the board? |
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<dTal> |
yes |
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<flyback> |
yeah those are test points |
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<flyback> |
actually |
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<dTal> |
some of them had already been used in the factory |
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<flyback> |
I think the zipit's soc |
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<flyback> |
might support master mode usb/OTG |
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<ogmious09_> |
they look like filled in throughholes |
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<flyback> |
what you trying to do btw |
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<dTal> |
a few of them have depressions where something contacted them |
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<ogmious09_> |
well sort of when you zoom in, you can see the difference |
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<flyback> |
dTal, |
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<flyback> |
if it's a pxa270 or higher |
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<flyback> |
it has a master mode usb port |
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<dTal> |
*sigh* |
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<dTal> |
flyback: the soc has it, yes |
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<dTal> |
we established that |
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<flyback> |
cool |
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<flyback> |
cause I did this on my palm t5 |
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<flyback> |
with linux |
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<dTal> |
care to try soldering something to it though? |
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<flyback> |
all I needed was a powered usb hub |
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<dTal> |
it is inaccessible |
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<flyback> |
was able to use the existing usb sync port |
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<flyback> |
np |
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<flyback> |
it's a software switch |
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<flyback> |
talk to the guys in #hackndev |
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* |
flyback goes to put rockbox on his iriver h10 he just rebuilt from a broken wreck on ebay |
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<flyback> |
it has a usb port to sync to does it not? |
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<dTal> |
man, if some of those pads went to another SD input |
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<dTal> |
you could get sdio |
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<dTal> |
and then much fun ensues |
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<valium1> |
rockbox is pwn |
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<dTal> |
no |
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<dTal> |
it isn't a simple switch |
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<dTal> |
they still have to have wired in the usb host for it to work |
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<dTal> |
for basic client operation, they basically wire the usb data pair straight into USBC_P and USBC_N |
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<Mcavity_> |
wow this is so weird.. im going to have to figure out whats going on here. |
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<Mcavity_> |
cant print to my printer . |
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<Mcavity_> |
lovely. and i just spent 50 bucks on new toner. |
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<valium1> |
Okay, heres my plan. |
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<valium1> |
on bootup, the zipit already checks fr the existance of z2script.sh on the sd card |
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<valium1> |
if it exists it runs it |
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<valium1> |
heres what I want to do, have it only run that if the screen is closed, and then flash the wifi light and halt execution until the screen is opened. |
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<valium1> |
at which point it will continue the z2script.sh |
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<valium1> |
if you leave the screen open, or there is not script on the SD at that location, it will simply boot to the stock app |
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<ogmious09_> |
Mcavity, cool if I PM you? |
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<Mcavity_> |
ok |
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<Mcavity_> |
the problem with having a job is... they expect you to show up... |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, you around? |
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<rkdavis> |
sort of |
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<valium1> |
you had a binary that would check the status of the lid, right? |
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<valium1> |
rather, that would return the status |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
but apparently it segfaults on jag's userspace. it needs compiling for that |
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<valium1> |
I want to use that in a script, what are the codes that get returned? |
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<rkdavis> |
0 for lid closed 1 for lid open |
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<valium1> |
okay, very cool |
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<rkdavis> |
and 255 if the world is ending |
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<valium1> |
lpt0 on fire? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup or if your zipit is about to become a puddle of plastic and metal |
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<valium1> |
ah heck, I downloaded it, what was it called? |
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<rkdavis> |
lid prolly |
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<rkdavis> |
yup lid |
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<rkdavis> |
that one is built static too so it might work on stuff other than stock but the source will work if you can comile it on anything |
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<valium1> |
Im trying to figure out how to use this is a script |
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<rkdavis> |
what are you trying to do? |
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<rkdavis> |
and btw iirc there are two checks for z2script.sh -- one in the start script on /ffs and there is on in the initramfs iirc too |
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<valium1> |
I want to stick it in the startup.sh, |
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<valium1> |
test -f /mnt/sd0/lid |
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<valium1> |
it it is there, then only run the z2script.sh if the lid is closed |
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<valium1> |
if it is open, then boot to stock, regardless if the sd card is inserted or not |
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<rkdavis> |
well yes but it is convoluted and might really kill your zipit |
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<valium1> |
if test -f /mnt/sd0/lid is false, then just run as normal |
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<valium1> |
so that the lid support is only used if the lid binary actually exists |
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<rkdavis> |
rename the z2script.sh to say runme.sh and then in the start.sh change the check for z2script to a check for runme |
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<rkdavis> |
that way it'll fail the initramfs check but succeed in the /ffs check |
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<rkdavis> |
but normal disclaimers apply |
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<valium1> |
man my head is fuzzy right now, I cant remember how to pipe the output into a variable. |
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<Aelius> |
Foxx, you're the hardware hacker right? what would you reccommend I do with an HP laptop screen? are there any adapters I could connect the display to and hook that up to something... or perhaps look up the pinout |
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<valium1> |
Aelius, I had one with a webcam in it, I removed it and soldered a USB header to it, works great |
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<Aelius> |
valium1, I can make the webcam a usb interface for the monitor? |
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<valium1> |
ermm... I mean that I used the webcam on my desktop PC |
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<ogmious09_> |
You'd have to make a custom driver for it to use it as a monitor Aelius |
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<valium1> |
sell it on eBay |
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<ogmious09_> |
I'd agree with valium1 |
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<ogmious09_> |
Sell it under the HP Part Number it goes for more money that way |
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<Aelius> |
hmm |
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<ogmious09_> |
Usually it's a number like SP: 985347-001 |
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<ogmious09_> |
Or you could drive 5 volts to the two wires on the bottom and turn it into a light table |
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<valium1> |
I've done that as well |
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<ogmious09_> |
Pink/Blue is positive and white is negative |
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<Aelius> |
lol |
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<Aelius> |
hmm, also have a touchpad |
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<Aelius> |
I would like the money, but selling is boring :D |
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<ogmious09_> |
Those are usually just PS2 ports with a Flat ribbon. You can rig those up to a PS2 cable and use them on a regular computer |
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<ogmious09_> |
BBL |
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<valium1> |
rkdavis, it's a error code, right? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: sorry wasn't watching the screen what's an error code? |
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<valium1> |
the output of lid |
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<rkdavis> |
it's a return value so $? is set with it |
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<rkdavis> |
or you can branch on it |
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<valium1> |
oaky, I'm being rather dumb today, hohw would I assign the output to a variable in the shell script? I know I should know this, but it's escaping me at the moment |
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<rkdavis> |
RETVAL = `lid` should do it iirc |
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<valium1> |
just returns blank |
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<rkdavis> |
echo $RETVAL |
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<valium1> |
nothing |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on let me check the version that i uploaded |
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<rkdavis> |
from the prompy type this |
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<rkdavis> |
lid |
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<rkdavis> |
then enter |
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<rkdavis> |
then echo $? |
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<valium1> |
returns a blank line |
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<rkdavis> |
then enter |
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<rkdavis> |
it can't return a blank line that is just not possibble if it's working :) |
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<rkdavis> |
let me check the uploaded source |
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<rkdavis> |
yup it can't return a blank line |
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<rkdavis> |
and $? is the return val of the previously run command |
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<valium1> |
oh wait, got 1 |
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<rkdavis> |
so lid open |
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<rkdavis> |
did you compile it yourself or did you recompile it? |
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<rkdavis> |
o mean recompile or use the binary? |
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<valium1> |
I used the binary |
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<valium1> |
does any of the drivers need to be loaded first? |
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<valium1> |
oh hang on |
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<valium1> |
I think I know whats happening |
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<valium1> |
the initramfs you were mentioning |
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<valium1> |
does that run first? |
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<valium1> |
ok, I think I have this figured out |
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<rkdavis> |
sorry not concentrating today, trying to do 30 things at once |
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<rkdavis> |
but here for 10 mins while a file uploads |
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<valium1> |
I'm trying to do the obvious thing of giving the choice of loading the Zipit app |
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<mozzwald_> |
I have a question if you can spare one of those 10. :) |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<mozzwald_> |
The pxa270 usb module appears to be loaded in the 29 kernel which means there should be access to the basic usb functions, right? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: it's not quite as easy as it seems because there are some gotchas |
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<valium1> |
im noticing |
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<rkdavis> |
mozzwald_: that's gadget modei.e. client mode |
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<rkdavis> |
so you can use the zipit as an external display :) |
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<mozzwald_> |
the gadget mode has a serial function? |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: the big problem is that there are two checks for z2script.sh and either might be hit, i haven't checked that the first isn't used but i am not 100% sure |
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<valium1> |
right, thats why I'm putting a check in z2script itself |
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<rkdavis> |
but the way i'd do it is rename the z2script.sh on the sd card to something else and then change the start.sh in /ffs |
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<rkdavis> |
valium1: that might not work because of the module loading |
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<rkdavis> |
it might but you'll have to be careful the orrder in which you load stuff |
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<valium1> |
well, as long as you havent loaded the network modules, it seems to work fine |
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<rkdavis> |
yup because the Zcovery app does all that and sets up the wifi stuff for the zipit app |
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<rkdavis> |
you just have to make sure yur scriot doesn't do stuff that has been already done |
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<rkdavis> |
there is a risk of course with modding files on the /mnt/ffs. i can't verify this fact but you might get a truely bricked zipit that will take alot of work to debrick as i'm not sure blob lets you write to a jffs partition |
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<rkdavis> |
it probably does but |
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<rkdavis> |
it might not |
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<valium1> |
yeh, afunny thing, is it's not working when I do |
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<valium1> |
read ffsrun < /dev/tty0 |
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<valium1> |
if [ "$ffsrun" == "n"]; then |
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<valium1> |
no matter what I put, it just oesnt seem to work |
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<valium1> |
it's doing something now lol |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<valium1> |
also, I'm actually using nano on the zipit to make these edits lol |
