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<ogmious09> |
does anyone have a easy linux install for jagsph_ UE? |
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<ogmious09> |
All the images I have done lately where in Windows but the laptop I am for some reason is not recognizing the SD in windows while it does in Linux. Just need a guide for Linux |
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<ogmious09> |
Ok, yeah wankers. I'll muddle through |
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<Adnyxo> |
mozzwald, thanks to you im now watching a youtube video on my zipit! |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
morning |
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<Adnyxo> |
morning |
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<Adnyxo> |
does anyone know of a simple podcast aggregator for the zipit? |
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<Adnyxo> |
i mean that will work on the zipit |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
umm |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
no |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
i havent looked |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
there was some intresting rss stuff but i didnt look to deep |
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<mozzwald> |
Adnyxo: I'm glad somebody is getting use out of it. :) |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<SDuensin> |
Greetings. |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: wouldent it be better using ext2? not because of lifelenght but speed wise? |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
anything i should know about the new image? |
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<jagsph_> |
power-management.sh needs to be replaced |
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<jagsph_> |
if you plug in the headphones it turns off your screen |
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<jagsph_> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/f2228b932 updated version |
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<muriani> |
niiice. |
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<jagsph_> |
nebukan: i dont know i used ext3 because i was getting filesystem corruption with ext2 when i was doing testing and i had to hard reset it |
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<jagsph_> |
shortcut keys: ctrl+l = close ctrl+f=fullscreen ctrl+z =alt+tab equivalent |
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<jagsph_> |
ctrl+d =desktop |
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<dTal> |
okay, so I've been thinking |
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<dTal> |
all this X windows business is far too burdensome for a little device like this |
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<muriani> |
I thought that was the general consensus. |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: want to make a shell script menu for applications and then compile them to do a 90 degree ccw rotation when they use the FB? |
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<dTal> |
how hard would it be to implement a framebuffer based interface? |
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<muriani> |
it'd be why most similar commercial devices used framebuffer UIs |
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<dTal> |
jagsph_: I want to do more than that |
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<dTal> |
I have this crazy notion |
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<muriani> |
port Opie or GPE? |
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<dTal> |
nope |
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<jagsph_> |
muriani: then you still need X |
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<dTal> |
gtk-dfb |
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<muriani> |
Opie didn't use X, IIRC |
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<dTal> |
on top of directfb |
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<dTal> |
so rox and stuff will render |
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<dTal> |
but mplayer and games can go straight to the framebuffer through directfb |
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<dTal> |
since it multiplexes |
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<dTal> |
and one could write lua scripts that use gtk as a frontend for configuration e.g. wpa_supplicant |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: why cant you just use that tinyX server? |
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<dTal> |
the windowing wouldn't be fancy, but there's no room for windows on this anyway, everything should be fullscreen |
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<dTal> |
which one, jagsph? |
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<dTal> |
besides, X is bloaty no matter what you use |
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<jagsph_> |
there was a binary called tinyX |
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<dTal> |
client-server has no place on a zipit |
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<jagsph_> |
i used it a long time ago on another device... |
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<dTal> |
do you mean kdrive? |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: i dont remember honestly.... |
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<jagsph_> |
im googling and seeing mention of it http://osdir.com/ml/graphics.directfb.devel/2008-01/msg00116.html |
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<jagsph_> |
http://www.superant.com/smalllinux/tinyX01.html |
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<jagsph_> |
http://www.x-oz.com/tinyx.html |
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<jagsph_> |
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive.html |
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<dTal> |
jagsph_: I'd be interested in seeing how well that works |
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<dTal> |
my concern is that's still quite a thick layer for games and mplayer etc to go through |
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<dTal> |
CPU is short as well as RAM |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: performance wise for instance its not hurting sdlquake |
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<dTal> |
SDL, ye gods |
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<dTal> |
maybe not now |
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<dTal> |
but it might if you were running other things in the background |
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<dTal> |
less CPU available |
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<jagsph_> |
i havent been able to really enjoy doing more than 3 things at once |
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<jagsph_> |
you can browse the internet and chat.... maybe play an mp3... the cpu is too slow. |
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<dTal> |
No, that's not it |
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<dTal> |
it's because it's swapping out ALL THE TIME |
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<jagsph_> |
playing an mp3 uses 50% of the cpu. |
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<dTal> |
every task switch |
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<dTal> |
that's silly |
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<jagsph_> |
it is |
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<dTal> |
my pentium 166 could play mp3s under windows |
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<jagsph_> |
and thats with mpg123 |
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<dTal> |
ergo a 300 mhz ARM should use 50% of its capacity to do so |
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<dTal> |
*not use |
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<jagsph_> |
again i think its notable to say that mpg123 was designed on intel hardware |
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<dTal> |
Anyway, I think this could be a competent multitasker if we cut down on RAM |
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<jagsph_> |
may not be fully optimized for arm. which was a discussion that i recall from a video online where a spokesman was being interviewed |
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<jagsph_> |
i agree. but you cut down on ram u cut down on functionality |
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<dTal> |
everyone says debian is slow, but I'd be interested in recompiling some debs with unneccesary options switched off |
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<dTal> |
not neccesarily - look at windows :p |
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<jagsph_> |
windows? you mean 1gb of ram for vista? |
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<jagsph_> |
in use on boot... |
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<jagsph_> |
the only windows that used 8mb or less of ram was windows 95 revision A |
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<jagsph_> |
well and 3.1 |
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<dTal> |
On a fresh install - this laptop goes into swap on boot and it's got 3 gigs |
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<dTal> |
ubuntu uses 250 megs |
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<vod> |
hmm. i think i'm going to try running win 3.1 on this thing. |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: try ubuntu-server and install lxde |
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<dTal> |
FreeBSD uses something like 50 megs for a gnome desktop, which is stunning |
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<jagsph_> |
ubuntu uses 60-80mb with lxde. its compiled with using every piece of functionality in mind. |
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<jagsph_> |
thats why you have such a large footprint |
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<dTal> |
of course ubuntu has a bunch of stuff turned on, like pulseaudio and crap |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: speaking of that, i removed pulseaudio and switched to oss. got better performance.... |
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<dTal> |
my point is, though, that we've mostly been using stock apps that are quite inefficient |
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<dTal> |
I think this device could shine |
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<jagsph_> |
someone needs to sit down and build every package for it. |
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<dTal> |
yeah, this laptop is the first time pulseaudio has ever worked at all for me |
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<dTal> |
nah, I'll just take debian and recompile some of the bigger offenders |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: let me point you to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound |
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<mozz-zipit> |
so we need an emdebian toolchain |
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<dTal> |
jagsph_: for why? |
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<jagsph_> |
you mentioned pulseaudio, if oss works on your system you will get insane performance improvements. |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: the biggest offender on the system that i know of ix X. rox seems to be a little offensive too |
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<dTal> |
This isn't my system |
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<dTal> |
and I'm gonna leave pulseaudio until it breaks, not that I like it |
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<dTal> |
my own desktop uses ALSA |
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<dTal> |
I am aware of OSS4, but no midi support is a deal breaker for me |
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<dTal> |
also the drivers suck for my card |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: every other system uses oss |
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<dTal> |
no, OSX uses coreaudio |
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<jagsph_> |
freebsd,netbsd,openbsd.... qnx... i really cant think of anymore right now |
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<dTal> |
they use it because ALSA is for linux |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: also the Z2 kernel panics when you use alsa |
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<dTal> |
Um? |
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<dTal> |
I've never used the Z2 without alsa |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: when i first set up debian it was using alsa..... everytime it would access it i would get a kernel panic. |
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<dTal> |
every userland I've used, including yours, uses alsa |
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<dTal> |
you might be using the oss emulation layer, skipping dmix, but it's definitely alsa |
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<dTal> |
using alsamixer and everything |
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<jagsph_> |
dpkg-reconfigure sound-base select alsa....... then delete the .asoundrc |
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<jagsph_> |
when its routed through alsa directly everything breaks. |
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<jagsph_> |
mplayer wont do it, but anything else will. including mpg123 |
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<dTal> |
jeez, how many sound modules does this thing need |
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<dTal> |
just did lsmod on the OE userland |
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<dTal> |
So is there an OSS driver for this sound chip that doesn't suck? |
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<jagsph_> |
probably not |
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<dTal> |
shame, might work better |
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<dTal> |
so where does snd_soc_z2 come from then? |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: i never looked into it. |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
humm something went wrong.. no boot. ill have to try again.. |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
oh there we go |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
just slow the first time i guess |
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<jagsph_> |
tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sdcardpartition1 |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: the sound driver slows this down a lot |
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<dTal> |
hmm |
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<dTal> |
interesting thing: sharp zaurus has the same sound chip |
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<dTal> |
and runs BSD |
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<dTal> |
and thus has OSS |
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<dTal> |
and therefore OSS drivers |
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<muriani> |
uh? |
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<muriani> |
it was a debian-based distro I though |
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<dTal> |
people have gotten it working |
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<dTal> |
at least that would seem to be the implication of this: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23984 |
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<dTal> |
zaurus is real similar actually |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
jagsph_ that tune command dindt work |
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<jagsph_> |
mcavity maybe it was supposed to be a capital C... |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
nope |
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<jagsph_> |
http://www.wiredrevolution.com/system-administration/disable-ext3-boot-time-check-with-tune2fs |
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<jagsph_> |
To turn off this check set the maximum count to 0 with the -c option. |
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<jagsph_> |
# tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sda1 |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
is the dev name sdcardpartition1? |
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<jagsph_> |
nope |
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<jagsph_> |
its what ever it is on yoru system |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
um i have no idea. im on the zip it.. |
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<jagsph_> |
ok type df |
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<jagsph_> |
its like /dev/mmcblk something |
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<jagsph_> |
its the root filesystem on the z2 |
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<jagsph_> |
brb |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
mmcblk0p1 |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
that worked |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
oh I need to look into cranking up screen brightness for quake.. should be able to add a line in the runquake script right? |
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<Aelius> |
So making the filesystems under freebsd isnt nearly as streamlined |
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<Aelius> |
I don't think it's working at all actually |
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<Aelius> |
poor ext3 support |
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<dTal> |
Aelius: watcha trying to do? |
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<Aelius> |
well I prefer freebsd to linux, so I got rid of ubuntu, in which I easily partitioned the sd card for the zipit userland |
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<Aelius> |
I set up freebsd with the e2fsprogs (ext support) |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
oops? |
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<dTal> |
Ah I see |
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<Aelius> |
mkfs.ext3, there is no mkswap that i can find |
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<Aelius> |
hmm I should find a mkswap tool |
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<dTal> |
yeah I found ext3 support to be very bad on FreeBSD 7 |
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<dTal> |
but it's improved in version 8 |
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<Aelius> |
yeah, I'm in version 8 :( |
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<dTal> |
but I never tried to make any filesystems with it - that's a shame |
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<Aelius> |
well it seems that I created the ext3 file system fine |
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<Aelius> |
and I read something about using if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdcardswap-part |
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<Aelius> |
but that isnt the only issue; It took about 45 minutes to extract the userland |
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<Aelius> |
(it had strange errors trying to extract straight to SD, I had to extract it locally then copy it over) |
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<Aelius> |
well, since with the new releases we don't have to mount an img, I can use bootable slax, probably |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
how do you close the file browser? |
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<Aelius> |
[..] X |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
thanks |
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<Aelius> |
np; thats the universal close command |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
except i dont think its working lol |
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<Aelius> |
hmmmm then I don't know |
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<Aelius> |
I'm off to slax... then back to ubuntu as this will inevitably fail for unforseen reasons |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
im off to sleep |
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<mozz-zipit> |
if you can open .matchbox/kbdconfig it will tell you the available hotkeys |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey jagsph_, do you know how to configure word wrap in mped off the top of your head? i want to set word wrap as if its an 8.5x11 piece of paper, not for the screen |
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<jagsph_> |
adnyxo: to be honest i havent played with it enough to be able to tell u :) |
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<Adnyxo> |
okay |
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<Adnyxo> |
thats not really a zipit question anyways, just wondering |
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<jagsph_> |
i have it on my desktop im looking for u heh |
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<jagsph_> |
it almost looks like it only does wordwrap based on the size of the screen. i think what u want would be margins |
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<jagsph_> |
i think i found it |
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<jagsph_> |
options - line options |
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<Adnyxo> |
okay |
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<Adnyxo> |
what setting |
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<jagsph_> |
dunno if thats even it. it just looks like it might be. |
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<Adnyxo> |
im booting my zipit to check now |
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<jagsph_> |
http://triptico.com/software/mp.html |
| [14:36:54] |
<jagsph_> |
there is a windows version of it apparently |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey jagsph_, whos picture is on the desktop wallpaper in the latest release |
| [14:38:28] |
<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: just some girl from a wallpaper i found. it blended well with the color scheme ... i almost put in a picture of my gf though but the time to edit it to make it look decent isnt worth it to me. |
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<Adnyxo> |
yea i thought it might be your gf, thats why i was asking |
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<jagsph_> |
shes the one with the crazy hair... remember? http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_f48813b862bd48c89d26999560369a4f.jpg |
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<Adnyxo> |
i see |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: do u have any comments or complaints about it |
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<jagsph_> |
the userland that is |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis is back.... |
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<Adnyxo> |
what happened to updating the time on connection? |
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<rkdavis> |
was just playing with unetbootin |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey, i know what that is |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey rkdavis |
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<rkdavis> |
yo Adnyxo |
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<rkdavis> |
trying to see if th edefault install lets you use the extra space on a udb drive for persistence. it doesn't so it needs tweaking after installing so it's not nappie friendly |
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<Adnyxo> |
also jagsph_ is there an alt-tab keystroke for switching windows? |
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<jagsph_> |
ctrl+z |
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<jagsph_> |
[...]+z |
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<jagsph_> |
<ctrl>f=fullscreen |
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<jagsph_> |
<ctrl>z=prev |
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<jagsph_> |
<ctrl>l=close |
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<jagsph_> |
<ctrl>d=desktop |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: btw i tried your userspace on my uboot'ed zipit, looks like it isn't happy with it, i.e. the ..../input stuff and mouse don't work -- probably modules and directory location probs with changes in the .30 and .29 kernel |
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<Adnyxo> |
great |
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<Adnyxo> |
also, what are the controls for the youtube player/? |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: any controls mplayer accepts...... |
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<jagsph_> |
I tried skipping forward and back and didnt work. |
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<jagsph_> |
Just crashed mplayer =\ |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: yeh u need to copy on the .30 modules |
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<Adnyxo> |
i did that as well, thats why im asking |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: it "should" work if the .30 modules are available. |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: if you want to copy them over to /lib/modules* and try it out..... |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: i did that, it seems to be some inconsistencies |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: yeh i think it has something to do with the cache fill why it wont skip |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: the big clue is that the mouse doesn't work |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: i'll play with it later but i need to relax first because i just spent 3 hours in the launderette and the other people there are annoying |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: most people arent gutsy enough to install 2.0.30 with uboot.... so im not going to even try it yet... maybe after i have a finished product.... |
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<jagsph_> |
why did i say 2.0.30 |
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<jagsph_> |
2.6.30 |
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<jagsph_> |
im still living in 1997 |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: yes i was just trying it to see if it worked OOB |
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<Adnyxo> |
jagsph_ youre going to use oe in your next release? |
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<rkdavis> |
the uboot upgrade is easy, but there is a teeny bit of risk, the harder thing is the downgrade if you don't like it :) |
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<jagsph_> |
adnyxo: im trying to build with the same system with oe, but there is a large learning curve involved..., what i mean is nothing works "OOB" |
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<Adnyxo> |
ah |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: thats why im sticking where its at, i got a lot of people interested in the Z2. There are comments all over about people going and buying them. So if I stick with where its at now there will be a larger user base for the Z2 |
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<jagsph_> |
that means more people to help u with gpios |
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<jagsph_> |
:) |
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<Adnyxo> |
oh and one more thing about the current userland, would it be possible to try to connect to previously set "homenet" on startup, also i wish your wifi tool would show weather a network is open or not |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: actually got the gpio's sussed now, and once people do to .29+ they don't need to bother with my /hackish/ method |
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<rkdavis> |
as it's in the kernel anyway if they can be bothered to compile the modules |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: you can do it now.... its just a script you can call it from /etc/z2.local or a real startup script |
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<jagsph_> |
z2.local gets called when X starts |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: also i could make it show if the network is open... it was just a quick hack to make connecting easy. |
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<Pabilo> |
hi there all |
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<Adnyxo> |
yea cause iwlist shows if the network is open, and thats what i was using before your app |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: the methods to do these things need to be documented. i have no idea how to use uboot... |
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<jagsph_> |
adnyxo: all its doing is iwlist | grep ESSID |
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<jagsph_> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: well once it's installed it's the same as blob, the /hard/ part id the installing it which isn't hard just convoluted |
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<Pabilo> |
jagsph_: i tried your new rootfs yesterday, and today my gf played with it. :) |
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<Pabilo> |
i let her do anything herself |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: easy enough for a girl to use yet? |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<Pabilo> |
se self connected to the ap and could read her mail. |
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<Adnyxo> |
girls and technology |
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<rkdavis> |
there is nothing to use with uboot unless you have jtag. and it does mean that the kernel no longer needs flashed |
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<rkdavis> |
the kernel just sits in a fat partition on the sd card |
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<Pabilo> |
she liked it but she had one complain :P the mouse is alittle to slow |
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<Pabilo> |
how can i make it go a little faster |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: i talked to rkdavis about this, someone either needs to build in an acceleration option if the mouse is held down or you can make it go more pixels at a time |
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<Adnyxo> |
the accelerator would be better, more pixles is easier no? |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: the z2mouse.c is in the oe distribution from the sourceforge site... im not a programmer so its beyond me at the moment |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: you move 6 pixels at one how will u center on an object on that screen |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: what's hard about firing up vi and :%s/3/6/g ? |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: you want it to move 3 pixels at a time like it is, and then have it accelerate the longer its held down |
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<jagsph_> |
i dont know how to write c. so i cant do that. i can make it go 6 pixels but why would u want to do that? |
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<Adnyxo> |
jagsph_ thats what i mean |
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<jagsph_> |
you want it to move more pixels as at once the longer u hold it down |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: so you put in if key == something then X += 6; Y += 6 |
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<Adnyxo> |
so someone has to do acceleration |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: want to do it? |
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<Pabilo> |
okej that something to try. i will try it :P |
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<jagsph_> |
it will only take you a minute. :) |
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<jagsph_> |
i mean its so easy |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: i don't have dev envirtonment setup for your stuff |
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<jagsph_> |
its in the oe userland |
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<rkdavis> |
so i can't but just basically write it as if you were bash scripting |
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<jagsph_> |
so you admit scripting in bash is universal unlike c? |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: and i don't have oe dev environment setup on this computer atm |
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<jagsph_> |
:D |
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<rkdavis> |
i don't deal with it |
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<Pabilo> |
okej ehm so my gf questyion is a bit more work i read ? |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: i have no idea how to do it thats why i asked you |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm not currently really interested in anything but stock atm |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: yeh, not a lot. apparently any idiot who can write C can do it.... but im not any idiot who can write C. The mouse speed was my GF complaint too. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: you run about 4 commands that are lsited in the sf site, and then wait a while then edit a file and rebake it nothing difficult, even Adnyxo could do it :) |
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<Pabilo> |
hahaha |
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* |
Adnyxo shoots |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: Write the code for me and ill compile it. You are lucky you are 3500 miles away because I do have your address. |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: and you don't even need oe anyway you have the debian tool chain so just grab the file and compile |
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<jagsph_> |
maybe you arent understanding english. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: Bitch Telescum thought that too, they were off by 125 miles too :) |
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<jagsph_> |
I CANNOT WRITE C. |
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<Pabilo> |
jagsph_ : i have a question if you like i could make a real test to check for errors if you want ? |
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<Adnyxo> |
shutup rkdavis, technology hates me. I cant even untar a file without ten errors |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: perhaps you are not listeing to me YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ABLE TO WRITE C to make the mod |
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<Adnyxo> |
its too bad i love technology |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: i dont know how to do it. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: write it almost in english and it'd work |
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<jagsph_> |
then show me what to write. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: you don't know how to add 2 numbers? |
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<jagsph_> |
no. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: oh yes i forgot you went through the american school system |
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<rkdavis> |
so you add using the McDonald's method :) lotsa pictures :) |
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<Pabilo> |
is that differend than the europ way ? |
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<rkdavis> |
ok give me a sec to grab the file again |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: yeh they dont provide us with the tools we need to succeed. blame them, dont blame me. |
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<Pabilo> |
same mac and pictures |
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<rkdavis> |
Pabilo: yes we write our 7's correctly |
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<jagsph_> |
The only difference is they dont want us to succeed here. |
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<rkdavis> |
with a nice dash through th emiddle |
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<jagsph_> |
how do you spell color rkdavis? |
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<jagsph_> |
colour? |
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<Pabilo> |
here it is kleur |
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<jagsph_> |
Are you like the canadians? Z is ZED ? |
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<Adnyxo> |
rkdavis, whats your opinion on obama, i hate him. I also dislike government indoctrination schools |
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<Adnyxo> |
lol but were not talking politics here |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis > chuck norrs |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: he was the wrong one to win, it wasn't his turn it was hillary's but really don't really care about american politics as they are all as bad as each other |
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<rkdavis> |
and too far right wing for me |
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<jagsph_> |
now that you have made me feel like crap ill go look at the code. thanks rkdavis. |
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<dTal> |
Okay, I think I've got enough info to start my own directfb-based userland |
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<rkdavis> |
even the futherest left democratic is still right wing when compared to europe |
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<Adnyxo> |
rkdavis, quit being smarter than us |
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<Adnyxo> |
actually that would be bad |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: not smarter just older |
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<Adnyxo> |
wed have no one to help us |
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<Adnyxo> |
damnit |
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<Adnyxo> |
how old are you? |
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<Adnyxo> |
(im 14) |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis is at least 45 |
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<dTal> |
jagsph_: your userland is essentially a custom sid, right? |
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<jagsph_> |
he got a kid in college... and a wife that supports him |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: add 31 to that, do you need pictures on your calculator to add it together? :) |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal: yes. you can build it with debian or with ubuntu very easilly |
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<Adnyxo> |
yes, pictures of the numbers |
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<dTal> |
I might do after I've tinkered for a bit - for now I'm just going to modify yours until I'm comfortable with what I'm doing |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis is so old he knows how to use those ancient calculators where you slide colored circular objects around |
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<dTal> |
since yours is the only sid built for zipit |
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<Adnyxo> |
the abacus? |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal: I was able to boot the userland in qemu if thats of any interest to you. |
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<dTal> |
oh neat |
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<dTal> |
just a quick question - where is the script that auto-loads the desktop? |
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<jagsph_> |
/etc/inittab and /home/user/.bash_profile |
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<jagsph_> |
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty1 --autologin user |
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<dTal> |
kewl |
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<dTal> |
cheers |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: yes the abacus |
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<jagsph_> |
he does his ASM programming for CPM with the Abacus |
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<muriani> |
.... |
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<muriani> |
you mean asm programming for Z80? |
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<muriani> |
CP/M was produced for a few architectures, IIRC. |
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<Adnyxo> |
jagsph_ : haha |
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<jagsph_> |
Yeh, He was the first person to fit a 65535 color pornographic bitmap image into 16k of ram on an intel 8085. using only ASM and an abacus |
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<jagsph_> |
of course it only displayed in 256 color 320x240. which is why the z2 is his life. |
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<Pabilo> |
try this one option ( for mouse ) than alt - q |
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<Pabilo> |
i have a blank screen |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: not correct as there are some corner cases but something like this is how you'd add it |
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<rkdavis> |
http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/z2mouse.c |
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<rkdavis> |
i'll do it properly in a minute |
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<Pabilo> |
can i copy that over the old z2mouse.c ? |
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<rkdavis> |
just a flag to see if the mouse pointer has been moved before then after a few add a multiplier |
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<rkdavis> |
Pabilo: not yet as i need to actually fix it so it will work but i was just giving jagsph_ the idea of how you would do it |
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<rkdavis> |
the corner case of what happens when you stop moving the mouse and then move it again needs a check in there too |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: you can put your name in the head of the z2mouse.c and say what changes you made, then resubmit the code. you will be famous. |
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<Adnyxo> |
<jagsph_> of course it only displayed in 256 color 320x240. which is why the z2 is his life. wtftw |
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<jagsph_> |
Adnyxo: rkdavis is chuck norris. dont question it. |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: of course the source code that is up is not really the z2mouseemu you have the binary for but not that difficult to fix that |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: so you are telling me the binary and the source are different for some reason? |
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<rkdavis> |
yes |
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<rkdavis> |
the reason being that aliosa27 had to be forced to even release that much so he wan't going to gibe us the REAL source |
| [15:46:14] |
<rkdavis> |
he still didn't commit his uboot patches |
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<jagsph_> |
aliosa27 is employed by the company "zipitwireless" |
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<jagsph_> |
? |
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<rkdavis> |
not a biggy though as it can all be replicated but it would have been nice to not have to do that |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: nope he was just a guy who happened to release a debian based userspace in septemember |
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<dTal> |
meh, I'm looking to make a fully keyboard-navigable system anyway |
| [15:47:23] |
<dTal> |
I don't like mouse emus |
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<jagsph_> |
who doesnt want to release his source code. |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: yup i don't bother with the mouse emu, it's ok and has it's uses but i prefer the keyboard although gpm would be nice |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: http://i3.zekjur.net/screenshots/i3-1.png |
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<dTal> |
it would be neat if there were an easy way of hacking a tiny trackball into the zipit, but not gonna happen |
| [15:49:42] |
<rkdavis> |
dTal: if you have the serial mod and can find a small serial trackball you could use that with a bit of coding |
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<Adnyxo> |
why not? |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: i used a tiling window manager years ago. it worked pretty well once you learned the keys |
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<Adnyxo> |
isnt that the point of a community |
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<dTal> |
so did I |
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<dTal> |
but that's not what i had in mind |
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<dTal> |
I'm sure a tiny trackball is entirely possible |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: nope the point of the community is to drive jagsph_ nuts, well more nuts than he already is |
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<rkdavis> |
and we are doing a good job of it too |
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<dTal> |
but I don't see an elegant way of doing it |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: remember i have your address? |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: yup you'd like to replace the dpad probably :) |
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<Adnyxo> |
ive been helping with that rkdavis |
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<dTal> |
but then no arrow keys :( |
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<rkdavis> |
jagsph_: again you thought you do, british telecom thought the same thing too |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: elegant way, maybe remove the useless speaker? |
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<jagsph_> |
there is a lot of space towards the space key... |
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<dTal> |
I think we have differing ideas of "elegant"... |
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<dTal> |
I was thinking of maybe upgrading the speaker |
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<jagsph_> |
maybe. |
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<Adnyxo> |
yes you do |
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<dTal> |
small, good ones can be had for not much money |
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<Adnyxo> |
i dont like the dpad either, mine is loose and not all that responsive |
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<jagsph_> |
rkdavis: what are those thinkpad "trackbuttons" |
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<jagsph_> |
the red knobs that stick up |
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<Adnyxo> |
i do like those |
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<Pabilo> |
from compaq you mean |
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<dTal> |
jagsph_: you mean the clit mouse? |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: if thats the ebonics term for them, yes |
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<Adnyxo> |
dTal: a better speaker would be great, which one do you have in mind |
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<jagsph_> |
i would think one of those might work well. |
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<dTal> |
http://xkcd.com/243/ |
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<Pabilo> |
http://www.bellscb.com/products/accessories/Images/Small_speaker4.gif |
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<jagsph_> |
umm dtal, pabilo, adnyxo: http://www.modojo.com/media/features/199/gbaspspeakers.jpg |
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<Pabilo> |
i had a clitmouse on my compaq c75 its anoying |
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<Pabilo> |
whaha ears |
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<rkdavis> |
bbiab |
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<dTal> |
nooo, both too big |
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<dTal> |
I mean something that can fit in the same spot |
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<dTal> |
but less shitty |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: scrub the whole idea |
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<jagsph_> |
make a new acrylic case for the device. |
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* |
Adnyxo almost said "thats what she said" |
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<dTal> |
I mean the ipod has great sound and its speakers are teeny |
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<rkdavis> |
dTal: actually before i go to start getting dinner ready, there used to be a thing you could put on the arrow keys that turned it into a joystick, something like that might work |
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<Pabilo> |
headphone works great |
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<dTal> |
I think I've heard of that, but I don't think it would work well here |
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<dTal> |
my problem with the mouse emulation is exactly that it precludes the use of arrow keys |
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<dTal> |
no, best to make a system that doesn't need a mouse anyway |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: have them make u a case http://www.akrylix.com/ |
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<Pabilo> |
and alt-tab the whole time ? |
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<jagsph_> |
then put in whatever hardware you want. |
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<dTal> |
hey yeah and I could change the motherboard too |
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<dTal> |
and the screen |
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<dTal> |
and i could put an i386 proc in it instead of this shitty ARM |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: why dont u make an open pandora clone while u are at it |
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<Pabilo> |
make it a full size laptop. 300mhz |
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<dTal> |
and put windows on it |
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<Pabilo> |
no windows take os/2 |
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<jagsph_> |
dtal: amd phenom X2 965 |
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<dTal> |
fuckit, I'll just go buy a new laptop |
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<jagsph_> |
have a car battery that people can buy so they can strap it to their back to keep it running |
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<dTal> |
Pabilo: no, alt tab is for weenies |
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<dTal> |
just a nice, slick interface that doesn't need a mouse |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal is hardcore, he wants to take the original Z2 UI and add a browser and media player to it. |
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<Pabilo> |
for now i like the z2 with your image. there are a few minor things but its working great |
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<dTal> |
it had a media player, albeit a shitty one |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal yeh that is true |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: yeh just give me a list of everything u find wrong ill change it. my biggest concern is the memory usage issue. |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal: im really interested to see what you come up with. |
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<dTal> |
me too |
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<dTal> |
let's see if I can actually finish a project |
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<Pabilo> |
oke can i mail it or post it in the irc |
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<jagsph_> |
I did this whole userland based on a setup i do for people with older x86 hardware. |
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<dTal> |
I'm hardcore studying for A Levels atm, so progress _will_ be slow |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: did u try quake yet? |
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<jagsph_> |
heh |
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<Pabilo> |
yup :D |
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<Pabilo> |
my gf laught about it, because i made all sorts of sound while playing that |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: my gf is really into openarena... so she liked it.... try playing against someone playing quake on the Z2 and someone on the computer |
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<Pabilo> |
if we talk about that , is there a way to make descent playable on the z2 :) |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: if you can run it in dosbox.... |
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<jagsph_> |
i would like to try terminal velocity on it |
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<Pabilo> |
or day of the tentacles :DDDDD |
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<jagsph_> |
day of the tentacle works |
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<Pabilo> |
i tried dosbox but it crashed al ot |
| [16:08:31] |
<jagsph_> |
you can play dott in scummvm |
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<dTal> |
http://ruibocn.en.alibaba.com/product/204971726-200147210/micro_speaker.html |
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<Pabilo> |
do you have the img from dot |
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<dTal> |
sort of thing |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: well im pretty sure its on thepiratebay.org |
| [16:09:04] |
<dTal> |
openarena rules |
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<Pabilo> |
whaaaa great, dot is on piratbay |
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<jagsph_> |
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4879228/Day_of_the_Tentacle_%5BENG%5D%5BOGG%5D%5Bfor_ScummVM%5D |
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<jagsph_> |
or http://thepiratebay.org/search/day%20of%20the%20tentacle/0/99/0 |
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<Pabilo> |
ohhh thats so cool |
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<Pabilo> |
thanks !!!!!!!! |
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<jagsph_> |
dTal: i would really be most interested in the mouse or usb support. |
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<Pabilo> |
you know what i'm gonna play tonight |
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<Pabilo> |
whaha |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: some GPL'd game for ScummVM that hasnt been pirated? |
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<Pabilo> |
i have never used scummvm before, but i have the orignal games on floppy lol |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: you can use your floppys with scummvm... |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: Maybe since you own the game you should download the full takie version of it. |
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<jagsph_> |
Its very fun to play when they talk through the whole thing.. |
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<muriani> |
Descent is opensource, d1x/d2x are the porting projects |
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<Pabilo> |
i'm now ftping it to my zipit |
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<muriani> |
it's possible to compile those, likely. |
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<Pabilo> |
ohh where can i find descent ? |
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<muriani> |
you'll still need the retail game files |
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<Pabilo> |
i have the cd of descent 1 |
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<muriani> |
well, have a go at compiling d1x for the z2 then |
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<muriani> |
I think it's SDL-reliant, so you'll need that |
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<muriani> |
and hell, if you're using debian, d1x might be available. |
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<muriani> |
I'm not sure on that though |
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<jagsph_> |
either way with debian you can install the build-essentials |
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<Pabilo> |
hmmm i'm gonna go into that. i will make screens when ive done it :D |
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<muriani> |
sweet |
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<muriani> |
I've got Descent on my PSP and DS, so I'm pretty much set for portable mine exploration already |
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<Pabilo> |
i played those games alot, and now the have a new perpes :D |
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<muriani> |
and Descent2 on the xbox |
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<muriani> |
Descent2 projected on the wall = win |
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<[0x44616E]> |
hello |
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<muriani> |
greetings |
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<Pabilo> |
jagsph_ : i wil post my errors on the irc tommorow, i'm going to bed, early day tomorrow |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey0xfourwhatever |
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<jagsph_> |
Pabilo: post it in the pastebin if im not around if u like |
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<Pabilo> |
ohh thats better i will do |
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<[0x44616E]> |
44616E... also tab usually autocompletes names Adnyxo:D |
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<Pabilo> |
dee ya all |
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<Pabilo> |
dee = see |
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<[0x44616E]> |
dee yeah Pabilo |
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<Adnyxo> |
bye |
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<Adnyxo> |
not for me |
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<[0x44616E]> |
odd |
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<[0x44616E]> |
oh well, its my name: Dan |
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<ogmious09_> |
Was sup Playas |
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<ogmious09_> |
Wicki wicki Wow Wow |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey ogmious09 |
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<Aelius> |
hey, what are the hotkeys for the new userland? |
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<Aelius> |
that, and no matter what i do i cant connect attym to gtalk |
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<Aelius> |
gah brb |
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<Adnyxo> |
Aelius try the keymaps, i dont know http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/DOCS/ |
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<Aelius> |
hmmm thanks |
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<Aelius> |
I'll have to examine this later |
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<Ampix0> |
yo jagsph_ |
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<Ampix0> |
congrats man |
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<Ampix0> |
some hak5 recognition |
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<Aelius> |
ok... has anyone set up attym and google talk |
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<Aelius> |
this is driving me insane |
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<Adnyxo> |
i really want google talk |
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<Adnyxo> |
hey Ampix0, im following you on twitter |
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<Aelius> |
Adnyxo; have you tried yet? |
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<Aelius> |
attym seems to suck |
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<Aelius> |
a lot |
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<Aelius> |
Adnyxo; Irssi works, so bitlbee should too |
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<Aelius> |
That's only cli though (I prefer this, don't know about you) |
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<mozzwald> |
Aelius: I have it running fine with my google talk |
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<Aelius> |
what are the settings? |
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<Aelius> |
mozzwald; ? |
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<mozzwald> |
# Ayttm's Local Account file |
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<mozzwald> |
# Edit only if you know what you're doing |
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<mozzwald> |
# Passwords are obfuscated, not encrypted |
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<mozzwald> |
<ACCOUNT Jabber> |
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<mozzwald> |
SCREEN_NAME="whoever@gmail.com" |
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<mozzwald> |
CONNECT_SERVER="talk.google.com" |
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<mozzwald> |
prompt_password="0" |
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<mozzwald> |
CONNECT="1" |
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<mozzwald> |
USE_SSL="1" |
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<mozzwald> |
PORT="5222" |
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<mozzwald> |
SSL_PORT="5223" |
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<mozzwald> |
enc_type="2" |
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<mozzwald> |
password_encoded="nlksd908548" |
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<mozzwald> |
</ACCOUNT> |
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<mozzwald> |
thats from the accounts file in ~/.ayttm |
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<Aelius> |
hmm the config file would be easier than the gui |
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<mozzwald> |
or just set those from the gui |
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<Aelius> |
whats enc_type? |
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<mozzwald> |
It's the encoding type for the password I think. |
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<mozzwald> |
just leave the password field blank and set it in the gui |
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<mozzwald> |
working now? |
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<Aelius> |
one minute; just entered it in |
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<rkdavis> |
w00t keyboard led controlable in stock :) |
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<Aelius> |
moment of truth..... is there a vnc for this? |
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<Aelius> |
it seems to be infinitely stuck in the log in process |
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<Aelius> |
restarting it |
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<Aelius> |
mozzwald; thanks; I don't know what I did differently but it works now |
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<nebukan> |
jagsph_: ok havent been around to try yr userspace for the last day, any tips och pastebin updates i should think about (too much scrollback) |
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<nebukan> |
:) |
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<Adnyxo> |
what are ya talking about rkdavis? |
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<rkdavis> |
Adnyxo: controlling the backlights in the stock kernel |
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<rkdavis> |
found the registers for off/on now to find the intensity registers |
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<rkdavis> |
although i see to have a floating value in there somewhere |
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<nebukan> |
should sound work out of box or does it need tweeking? |
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<Aelius> |
it used to work out of the box, but for the latest userland I haven't heard anything |
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<nebukan> |
i see |
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<Aelius> |
not that I've really tried |
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<Adnyxo> |
goodnight people! |
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<Aelius> |
night |
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<nebukan> |
nn |
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<Aelius> |
for irssi, the shortcuts used are alt+# |
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<Aelius> |
so... this presents a problem XD |
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<nebukan> |
yeah |
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<nebukan> |
but ctrl+n is a workaround |
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<Aelius> |
ctrl n? |
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<nebukan> |
next window |
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<Aelius> |
forgot about that |
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<nebukan> |
wow a reboot and the sound worked! |
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<nebukan> |
like this userspace |
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<nebukan> |
i had aliosas before with awesome wm |
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<nebukan> |
dident really work out since i dident have time to tweak everything |
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<Aelius> |
yeah this is pretty awesome |
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<nebukan> |
nice holidays coming up next week |
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<nebukan> |
with this beauty and the beach |
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<nebukan> |
good to go |
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<nebukan> |
nn |
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<Aelius> |
lol |
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<Aelius> |
batt life isnt spectacular so get a solar charger :) |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
Aelius i dunno i got 5.5 hours out of it |
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<Aelius> |
yeah mine isnt that high... |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
maybe your not getting a full charge |
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<Mcavity[A]> |
or are you playing video / music? |
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<Aelius> |
although it turned on in my pocket, it failed at power management, and crashed and froze on the very few field tests :) |
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<Aelius> |
I just need more field tests and less freezing |
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<ogmious09> |
OH man, what a day. Good day to not be an European |
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