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[00:04:55] <jagsph_> hi alelius
[00:05:23] <jagsph_> you can put the power management script anywhere in the startup scripts, u can also add it with update-rc.d although im not familiar on the exact way to do
[00:06:54] <jagsph_> aelius: for a quick rundown on everything u need to know about vim its in my privoxy howto for dd-wrt with jffs http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=387190
[00:07:35] <jagsph_> power management script with the xorg warnings removed and using the /dev/input/event1 http://zipit.pastebin.com/f6ddc6303
[00:08:20] <jagsph_> vba or visualboyadvance works but its a little slow, the keybindings need to be right and it needs just the right config, also turning sound off helps... if thats what was talked about earlier
[00:08:22] <Aelius> ok thanks
[00:08:41] <jagsph_> Aelius: note this line #
[00:08:41] <jagsph_> #POWER BUTTON COMMAND
[00:08:41] <jagsph_> #
[00:08:41] <jagsph_> PWRBO="/home/user/.bin/shutdown-script"
[00:08:52] <Aelius> yes, that;s what I was asking with vba
[00:09:15] <Aelius> and mapping the power button is not in the current version right?
[00:09:28] <Aelius> I do not notice it
[00:09:54] <jagsph_> no it is not, this is something i figured out early this morning because of mozzwald.... the mapping is done by reading hex code from the input1 device, its not done through a keybinding
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[00:10:41] <jagsph_> if you want to experiment you can run this http://zipit.pastebin.com/f55fc11fa it will paste debugging info to the screen about the lid and power button
[00:11:28] <Aelius> ok
[00:11:30] <jagsph_> aelius there is also a severe problem that causes huge slowdowns
[00:11:31] <ogmious09_> Coo Coo Mofo's
[00:11:46] <ogmious09_> Severe problem with what? The USERLAND?!
[00:12:03] <jagsph_> in .xinitrc towards the bottom after the battery stat script for the conky program there is another battery status script running, remove it.
[00:13:04] <Aelius> Ok
[00:14:04] <Aelius> quick question; if my retarded friends eject the SD while the OS is starting up, and when it is up but idle, is this likely to cause any errors that would require a re partition?
[00:14:11] <Aelius> nothing obvious has come up yet
[00:14:49] <jagsph_> likely to cause the need for a reboot.. i assume since its ext3 the damage that could arise is minimal unless the sd card gets physically damaged
[00:15:41] <jagsph_> ext2 could more easily have a serious problem. infact i have had more serious problems with it in the old days of kernel 2.0.x
[00:16:24] <ogmious09_> Yeah, your retarded friend
[00:16:30] <jagsph_> Put a piece of tape over it and write no on it
[00:16:32] <Aelius> I know
[00:16:36] <Aelius> lol
[00:16:39] <Aelius> NO!
[00:16:44] <ogmious09_> You aint gotta lie to kick it
[00:17:21] <Aelius> yes, the OS was frozen, but it is weird; every time I let my friends examine it, they somehow freeze it. I've never made it freeze. This has happened several times, and although I wasnt keeping a careful watch, I just pocketed it as I did not have a paperclip... and it either restarts itself, or revives itself
[00:17:32] <Aelius> there are also times when I swear it was off, but I open it and it's on
[00:17:35] <jagsph_> I saw that info about devmem2 rkdavis found another way to read it
[00:17:58] <ogmious09_> So you actually didn't find poop. Rkdavis did.
[00:18:02] <ogmious09_> Just sying
[00:18:06] <ogmious09_> *saying too
[00:18:24] <jagsph_> Aelius: yeh i noticed that too when its in my pocket or being pushed on
[00:18:31] <jagsph_> i think the lid button can get activated
[00:18:40] <Foxx> wow, whos the douche that posted the didj hacking to hackaday?? :/
[00:18:52] <ogmious09_> prolly Foxx
[00:18:54] <Foxx> ive been getting tons of PMs all day about it
[00:18:56] <rkdavis> jagsph_: i'm working on the c version of it no, although i got side tracked by playing with led's and the screen on/off
[00:19:01] <Foxx> honestly, I dont like hackaday
[00:19:08] <Aelius> Foxx; hackaday is how I found this
[00:19:20] <ogmious09_> Still on engadget, haven't made it to hackaday yet
[00:19:21] <Aelius> I enjoy hackaday more often than not
[00:19:25] <jagsph_> rkdavis: awesome im very interested in your code example
[00:19:48] <jagsph_> rkdavis: can you do a programmable binding to the power button in it?
[00:19:57] <Foxx> hackaday is mainly for l33t g33ks that tend to follow a hacking pop-culture
[00:20:09] <ogmious09_> Always, In the same Order. 1st Slashdot, 2nd Engadget, 3rd Gizmodo, 4th Joystiq, 5th Hackaday, 6th Boing Boing, 7th Geek.com
[00:20:36] <Foxx> I prefer to use google and inspiration for my hacking needs
[00:20:50] <Aelius> Foxx; I see hackaday as a source of projects that are either very awesome, or possibly within my reach
[00:21:12] <ogmious09_> Once A week I check Hackedgadgets.com too
[00:21:17] <Foxx> I see hackaday as a pool of dribble down that tends to get overhyped too much
[00:21:36] <Foxx> dont get me wrong, I have respect for them
[00:21:38] <Aelius> lol, I didnt think hackaday was popular at all, let alone overhyped
[00:21:53] <ogmious09_> Yeah it shows too Foxx, lol
[00:21:58] <Aelius> well I'm no hacker, yet
[00:21:59] <jagsph_> ogmious09
[00:22:04] <Aelius> so what do I know
[00:22:04] <jagsph_> you are a sarcastic little shit
[00:22:07] <Foxx> but I dont really hold my breath when it comes to anything productive from their community beyond reporting other peoples tech "hacks"
[00:22:22] <Aelius> they post their stuff before engadget
[00:22:36] * jagsph_ slaps ogmious09_ with the xchat version of the mIRC large trout
[00:22:57] <Aelius> as in, when they have the same posts, it's up on hackaday first... but I do not know where it really originates from
[00:23:09] <Aelius> brb
[00:23:18] <ogmious09_> Telling you best order is Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, Joystiw, Hackaday, BoingBoing, Geek and wash with Hackedgadgets once a week. You will be completely geekified and up to date
[00:23:57] <jagsph_> ogmious09_ i might have to start doing that again :)
[00:24:25] <ogmious09_> I got it in a special time consuming firefox folder and I just click the folder and open all tabs at the same time and just shoot em down the line
[00:26:09] <jagsph_> hey #zipit, did you get my quake shareware package for the Z2?
[00:26:33] <jagsph_> http://rapidshare.com/files/344211388/quake-z2.tgz.html
[00:26:34] <jagsph_> MD5: 8C563D13D4D317A8C38737C0EC80EEEA
[00:27:04] <jagsph_> and a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9dj6wzCs1E
[00:28:24] <ogmious09_> check out that Kratos Case mod on Joystiq. Now that's hot
[00:29:47] <jagsph_> i do not like that at all
[00:30:04] <ogmious09_> Heretic
[00:30:40] <Aelius> sweet quake btw
[00:31:41] <jagsph_> yeh.. its only 8mb too... you get the whole first episode of quake in the shareware package.... they really did a good job releasing a lot of game for free.
[00:32:09] <Aelius> lol
[00:32:33] <Aelius> in painkiller, there are several demos. enough that you actually get most of the game if you get all of the demos
[00:33:47] <jagsph_> all people have to do now is go to usenet
[00:34:41] <jagsph_> Aelius: im working on doing quake2... the original binary is very slow but ive been trying a modified version... not sure if its gonna work though i need to put my retail quake2 on it and see...
[00:35:25] <Aelius> would there be enough power for multiplayer XD
[00:35:44] <Aelius> not that I know any other person using a zipit, or linux, for that matter
[00:37:25] <jagsph_> Aelius: there is enough power for multiplayer quake1 for sure
[00:38:33] <jagsph_> with a good key binding i was able to strafe and aim like i was on a desktop
[00:40:48] <ogmious09_> Foxx you think you could get a nes and bga emu on the Didj?
[00:40:53] <ogmious09_> *gba
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[00:41:23] <user__> ah
[00:41:47] <Aelius> ok jagsph_ , just removed the battery script; how do I exit X on the zipit?
[00:41:53] <Aelius> without rebooting
[00:42:10] <Aelius> or just stop the script would be a good thing too
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[00:43:15] <Aelius> nm, found the script with ps -a
[00:43:25] <Aelius> but I'd still like to know how to leave the x server
[00:43:49] <jagsph_> umm matchbox-remote -quit or -exit
[00:44:10] <jagsph_> or killall matchbox-window-manager .... i was having problems with it with the latest xorg though, it freezes the screen
[00:44:23] <Aelius> k
[00:44:28] <jagsph_> at least on my device... thats why i took it out of the shutdown menu
[00:44:39] <Aelius> strange, it once quit without my input
[00:44:42] <Aelius> when it was closed
[00:44:47] <Nonya-Biz> anyone know if any of the testpoints on the zipit boardgo to the usb?
[00:45:10] <jagsph_> when its booting up you can hold down ctrl+c or just edit /etc/inittab so it boots to a console and your /home/user/.bash_profile so it doesnt start X
[00:45:17] <ogmious09_> Now, I know this is pretty old and far behind but I would be remiss if I didn't take a moment to say "Up yours jagsph" and shove your fish
[00:45:48] <jagsph_> ogmious09_: haha :)
[00:45:57] <ogmious09_> lol
[00:46:11] <jagsph_> Nonya-Biz: rkdavis has the information, or he knows who does.....
[00:46:19] <jagsph_> brb
[00:46:49] <Aelius> jagsph_; I know of this, and I like the auto boot with cancel option. I"m just reporting that X was running, and quit
[00:46:54] <Aelius> presumably through a hotkey
[00:47:05] <Aelius> while it was in my pants :)
[00:47:30] <Nonya-Biz> IN YOUR PANTS!
[00:47:35] <Aelius> yep
[00:47:40] <ogmious09_> Hotkey in your pants huh
[00:47:41] <Aelius> zipit pleases me so
[00:47:48] <ogmious09_> What'd you poke the key with?
[00:48:08] <Aelius> best not disclosed in a public place
[00:48:25] <ogmious09_> Who wore a pinhole in the smiley face's line smile?
[00:48:46] <Nonya-Biz> you technophile
[00:49:41] <Aelius> ogmious09; lol, that took me a whie
[00:49:44] <Aelius> while*
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[00:50:57] <Nonya-Biz> this screen sucks for reading text
[00:51:05] <Aelius> not really
[00:52:45] <ogmious09_> My comedy is pretty low brow, takes a lot of stooping
[00:52:57] <Aelius> gar whats the jabber config for google chat
[00:54:10] <ogmious09_> I want a cheap Dingoo, lol
[00:54:12] <Mcavity[A]> morning.. or evening.. depending..
[00:54:24] <ogmious09_> Hey Mcavity[A] Good evening
[00:54:41] <Nonya-Biz> where is rkdavis anyway?
[00:55:13] <Mcavity[A]> he flys above us all looking down with disapointment..
[00:55:15] <Mcavity[A]> hehe
[00:55:20] <ogmious09_> lol
[00:55:30] <Nonya-Biz> o.O
[00:55:31] <ogmious09_> He whose name cannot be mentioned
[00:56:04] <Mcavity[A]> trying to find that list of things jagsph_ sugjested i correct in some of the scripts for speed boosts..
[00:58:09] <Mcavity[A]> ran a battery test last night.. got 5.5 hours
[00:58:30] <Aelius> Mcavity[A]; what were the variables in the test?
[00:58:40] <ogmious09_> Buying a class 6 microSD card for your userland tomorrow jagsph. Better be worth it or it's curtains
[00:58:54] <Mcavity[A]> close lid once to deactivate kb light
[00:58:59] <ogmious09_> Redtube porn 5.5 hours straight
[00:59:01] <Mcavity[A]> dont run speaker
[00:59:08] <ogmious09_> His arm gave out before the battery
[00:59:11] <Mcavity[A]> otherwise i was on irc and ayttm
[00:59:18] <ogmious09_> Giggity
[00:59:27] <Mcavity[A]> no i wasent running video lol
[01:00:18] <ogmious09_> Oh yeah?
[01:00:31] <ogmious09_> I seem to remember some big fat hair vids going
[01:00:44] <Mcavity[A]> not when i was doing the test
[01:00:44] <Aelius> I liked the first client with the console
[01:00:58] <Aelius> except that when an error message popped up I couldnt click it
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[01:01:06] <Aelius> or use the program at all really
[01:01:20] <Mcavity[A]> other than not bbing able to use it it was great?
[01:01:25] <Aelius> yep
[01:01:28] <Mcavity[A]> lol
[01:02:06] <jagsph_> mcavity: replacement power-daemon.sh http://zipit.pastebin.com/f7a460a11
[01:02:10] <Mcavity[A]> i have quake on mine as well i should work on the keymap and deathmatch someone lol
[01:02:28] <jagsph_> .xinitrc has 2 battery scripts, one is conky one needs to be removed
[01:02:42] <jagsph_> in the one that starats conky after sleep put nice -n 20 to give conky lowest priority
[01:02:49] <Mcavity[A]> ok think i got that
[01:03:01] <Mcavity[A]> ahh the nice.. ill do that
[01:03:08] <Mcavity[A]> and i need dropbear
[01:03:17] <Aelius> jagsph_; I just commented that out
[01:03:25] <jagsph_> i dont recall the exact name of that file..... from pastebin but its one of the only few in /etc/ that ends in .sh :)
[01:03:29] <Aelius> should I go back and change it?
[01:03:44] <Mcavity[A]> cuz dropbear works when telnet.d did not
[01:04:16] <jagsph_> aelius: the conky one? its up to you, conky displays the battery status on the scree.... and the one that gets started from /etc/z2.local runs the power management interface that controls the keyboard display from the lid
[01:04:19] <Mcavity[A]> also getting the wifi to start at boot
[01:04:47] <jagsph_> mcavity: thats already an option, configure the homenet...... in netconfig and uncomment the line in /etc/z2.local that starts homement
[01:04:57] <Aelius> jagsph_; not conky, the one after. you told me to remove it, actually. are you saying to set conky to low priority?
[01:05:01] <Mcavity[A]> oh ok cool
[01:06:04] <jagsph_> aelius: yes... conky should be low priority imo on this device... and yeh the other was removing it is what i did.
[01:06:13] <Aelius> k
[01:06:54] <jagsph_> mcavity, aelius: this is the actual power-management.sh script, the last one i pasted was just to control the lid
[01:06:54] <jagsph_> http://zipit.pastebin.com/f6ddc6303
[01:07:05] <jagsph_> this is the one that should go in /etc/power-managementblahblahblah.sh
[01:07:23] <jagsph_> it has all the options for setting the display brightness and key brightness based on the status of the device
[01:08:16] <Aelius> alright
[01:08:22] <jagsph_> Mcavity,Aelius: this is the same version i currently have on my device.
[01:08:25] <Mcavity[A]> ok to renice conky.. what do i do?
[01:08:27] <Aelius> I need to set up ftp or something
[01:09:02] <jagsph_> Aelis: ftp/telnet were enabled by default mcavity said there was a problem with it. oddly enough i didnt get it after extracting the userland.
[01:09:06] <Mcavity[A]> ftp is onthere and working
[01:09:24] <Aelius> k
[01:09:35] <jagsph_> so it appears to work fine on my end from the same tar.bz2 that i posted...
[01:09:36] <Aelius> How much will the SD bottleneck this?
[01:09:43] <Mcavity[A]> telnet never worked for me using putty.. so i installed dropbear and ssh right in
[01:10:06] <Aelius> I believe I'm using a radioshack cell sandisk micro @ 4GB
[01:10:14] <Aelius> no other specs listed
[01:10:40] <jagsph_> Aelius: i dont know it depemds on the card, but once i made those changes i got a bit more speed, the old script for power-management had to constantly poll a device so it caused overhead.
[01:10:52] <Aelius> k
[01:11:38] <jagsph_> Aelius: this one still does a poll every 30 seconds to determine if its battery powered or not. I think i can change that behavior also since rkdavis doesnt have anything yet
[01:11:43] <Mcavity[A]> jag.. how do i renice conky?
[01:12:01] <Mcavity[A]> im in the .xinitrc script..
[01:12:35] <jagsph_> let me check my z2. i didnt make notes.
[01:12:48] <Aelius> nice -n 20 is what he said above
[01:13:04] <Mcavity[A]> yea im just not sure where to put it
[01:13:20] <jagsph_> yeh theres a specific way to do it
[01:13:44] <Mcavity[A]> #Battery status
[01:13:44] <Mcavity[A]> #conky &>/dev/null &
[01:13:45] <Mcavity[A]> #we have to call it with a sleep function or the rox-filer over-rides it
[01:13:45] <Mcavity[A]> bat-applet &>dev/null &
[01:14:11] <jagsph_> ok mcavity nano -w ~/.bin/bat-applet
[01:14:17] <jagsph_> #!/bin/bash
[01:14:17] <jagsph_> sleep 20;nice -n 20 conky
[01:14:31] <jagsph_> thats the file you edit.... thats how i set it up.
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[01:15:09] <jagsph_> then to get the effect immediately ps ax | grep conky then renice 20 $PIDOFCONKY
[01:16:31] <Mcavity[A]> ok i think that did it
[01:16:32] <Mcavity[A]> lol
[01:16:39] <jagsph_> Mcavity: I saw conky was getting a lot of cpu usage from time to time, thats why i did this. also conky is using 10% of memory. If thats a problem and you dont care about having the battery monitor on the desktop disable it.
[01:17:01] <Mcavity[A]> ill leave it for now
[01:17:10] <jagsph_> Mcavity: im constantly watching top throughout this whole process.
[01:17:32] <Mcavity[A]> i like htop over top.. easyer to read for me =)
[01:17:38] <Aelius> jagsph_; in xinitrc, its disabled, "#conky &>/dev/null &"
[01:17:57] <Aelius> by default
[01:18:40] <jagsph_> Aelius: no its called by the bat-applet script
[01:18:49] <Aelius> ok
[01:18:53] <jagsph_> I left my old comments in there as a reference point.
[01:28:20] <Mcavity[A]> power-managment.sh?
[01:28:48] <Mcavity[A]> is that the file name.. [i umm renamed the old one and have forgotten lol]
[01:32:30] <Mcavity[A]> s for telnet. i dont know whats up with that. i can telnet to it.. i just get permission denied
[01:33:44] <jagsph_> /etc/power-management.sh
[01:34:38] <Mcavity[A]> ok rebooting
[01:36:12] <Mcavity[A]> humm
[01:41:04] <Mcavity[A]> wow i borked something
[01:41:51] <ogmious09_> musta been in your pants again
[01:41:57] <ogmious09_> Zing
[01:43:07] <jagsph_> Helpful information, if you use tune2fs -c 0 on your ext3 filesystem it disables filesystem checking
[01:46:41] <Mcavity[A]> im jus trying to get my zipit to boot back into x
[01:48:56] <Mcavity[A]> there we go
[01:49:40] <Mcavity[A]> humm
[01:49:56] <Mcavity[A]> now why did it not auto login
[01:53:54] <Mcavity[A]> maybe i didnt give it enough time
[01:54:05] <Mcavity[A]> hey where is telnet called from?
[02:03:44] <jagsph_> /etc/inetd.conf
[02:09:10] <Mcavity[A]> humm ftp is listed as /root and telent is listed as telnetd
[02:09:28] <Mcavity[A]> could that be the problem?
[02:13:53] <jagsph_> i dont know
[02:13:59] <Mcavity[A]> now to get the zipit to auto join the wifi i should just uncomment z2.local
[02:14:08] <Mcavity[A]> why is it not joining.. humm
[02:14:12] <jagsph_> Mcavity: you need to do sethome in netconfig
[02:15:13] <Mcavity[A]> i did
[02:15:24] <Mcavity[A]> and 3 in netconf joins me right up
[02:15:43] <jagsph_> yeh. just call that script from the z2.local and it will start everytime u startx
[02:17:38] <Mcavity[A]> well thats just it.. i have done sethome in netconfig.. and i changed the line in z2.local [uncomented] but it doesnet seem to be joining up
[02:17:48] <Mcavity[A]> i have to open netconfig and select option 3
[02:18:53] <Mcavity[A]> hah
[02:18:57] <Mcavity[A]> telnet works now though
[02:19:20] <Mcavity[A]> [i changed it from telnetd to root]
[02:23:32] <Mcavity[A]> bash /usr/share/netconfig/saved/default &>/dev/null &
[02:27:06] <Mcavity[A]> hum there was a space. maybe thats it. i kill the space and les see
[02:27:35] <jagsph_> mcavity: i never tested that.... release canidate remember? :)
[02:27:49] <jagsph_> im working on the angstrom disto right now and porting some packages fixing the keymaps
[02:28:03] <Mcavity[A]> yea imjust trying to track things down
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[02:31:12] <Mcavity[A]> nope space didnt get it
[02:35:03] <Mcavity[A]> ah well
[02:47:24] <Mcavity[A]> lets try vlc.. just to be crazy
[02:48:03] <Nonya-Biz> vlc on a zipit?
[02:48:14] <Mcavity[A]> yea
[02:48:26] <Mcavity[A]> im a little insane lol
[02:48:57] <Nonya-Biz> you might only see one button
[02:49:16] <Mcavity[A]> true
[02:49:41] <Mcavity[A]> but you can get vlc to runn from command line..
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[02:55:48] <Nonya-Biz> any way to stop this thing from loging off evry 30 minutes?
[02:55:59] <Mcavity[A]> loging off what?
[02:56:27] <Nonya-Biz> the network
[02:58:06] <Mcavity[A]> umm.. i dont have that problem
[02:58:12] <Nonya-Biz> i ha
[02:58:44] <Mcavity[A]> what image are you useing?
[02:59:51] <Nonya-Biz> scratch
[03:00:04] <Mcavity[A]> oh that one i dont know
[03:00:35] <Nonya-Biz> from soundman
[03:01:23] <Mcavity[A]> oh
[03:01:40] <Mcavity[A]> then thats what imusing.. latest version?
[03:01:51] <Mcavity[A]> nice userand?
[03:01:56] <Mcavity[A]> userland
[03:02:19] <Nonya-Biz> probly not recent seems alright
[03:03:23] <Mcavity[A]> does it have the battery display up top?
[03:03:44] <Nonya-Biz> no
[03:04:03] <Mcavity[A]> ok theres a slightly newer one.. much faster boot up on his site
[03:04:10] <Mcavity[A]> id recomend it.
[03:04:21] <Nonya-Biz> i have it pluged in usb
[03:04:40] <Mcavity[A]> but i dont know why you would log off network after 30 min
[03:05:28] <Nonya-Biz> probly a powersave setting or something
[03:06:35] <Mcavity[A]> http://zipit.rootnexus.org/
[03:06:44] <Mcavity[A]> well this has much improved power settngs
[03:07:18] <Mcavity[A]> minor bug on this version is close the lid once after it boots to turn off kb lights
[03:07:31] <Mcavity[A]> i gto 5.5 hours out of it yesterday
[03:08:13] <Nonya-Biz> ah hurricane
[03:10:13] <Nonya-Biz> arleast i dont have to download an snes emulater this time
[03:10:20] <Mcavity[A]> also does youtube lol
[03:14:32] <Mcavity[A]> testing vlc
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[03:15:36] <jagsph_> mcavity: mine drops the connection also when im too close to the router
[03:16:24] <Mcavity[A]> intresting jag.. im about.. umm 6 inches from router and go 3-40 feet
[03:19:56] <jagsph_> Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
[03:19:56] <jagsph_> /dev/root 1.7G 195.3M 1.4G 12% /
[03:20:14] <jagsph_> The new system im testing ill be able to drop hopefull 300mb of used space.
[03:21:03] <Mcavity[A]> im testing vlc... is working better than i expected
[03:21:16] <jagsph_> suprisingly
[03:21:54] <Mcavity[A]> as in it runs and even atempts to play video lol
[03:22:08] <Mcavity[A]> color palot is off
[03:22:19] <Mcavity[A]> everyone is blue
[03:24:08] <jagsph_> like eiffel 65?
[03:26:19] <Mcavity[A]> ya
[03:26:19] <Mcavity[A]> lol
[03:30:40] <Mcavity[A]> it tries realy hard to run
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[03:46:35] <user___> its tv time
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[03:59:06] <mcavity_zippy> sudo get me a sammich
[04:01:22] <jagsph_> mcavity: type yes mcavity get it yourself
[04:01:37] <mcavity_zippy> lol
[04:03:51] <mcavity_zippy> hungy but everything is closed
[04:04:54] <_del> what network is freenode
[04:05:30] <_del> interesting channels they offer
[04:06:38] <jagsph_> its the not for robby network
[04:07:00] <_del> then why did u invite me
[04:07:34] <jagsph_> that was before i found out all u wanted was a portable redtube player
[04:07:49] <_del> whatever that means
[04:10:37] <mcavity_zippy> ll
[04:11:27] <mcavity_zippy> lol
[04:14:58] <jagsph_> mcavity.... Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/unstable/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/pidgin_2.6.5-r1.0.5_armv5te.ipk
[04:15:09] <jagsph_> does that get u going?
[04:16:06] <mcavity_zippy> get me going for what?
[04:16:33] <jagsph_> the Z2
[04:16:35] <jagsph_> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleverswine/tags/angstrom/
[04:17:18] <mcavity_zippy> hum. well ayttm works ok
[04:17:59] <mcavity_zippy> let me look
[04:21:59] <Mcavity[A]> so you want me to to try the pidgin ipk?
[04:22:56] <jagsph_> i already found it. u can try it if u want
[04:23:11] <jagsph_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/unstable/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/pidgin_2.6.5-r1.0.5_armv5te.ipk theres also a pidgin data in there and plugins...
[04:23:20] <mcavity_zippy> oh ok
[04:23:36] <jagsph_> its probably built lighter than the debian version
[04:23:51] <mcavity_zippy> so far i have to say i like the ayttm chat
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[04:27:58] <mcavity_zippy> man im hungry
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[04:29:53] <jagsph_> _del: just sold these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280455493397&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT
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[05:08:26] <mcavity_zippy> hungry.. diets suck
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[06:14:14] <_del> let me get the crx tails for free
[06:15:03] <_del> time for sleep
[06:16:09] <mcavity_zippy> sleep is good
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[07:14:15] <mcavity_zippy> i should give upfood
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[08:28:25] <rkdavis> morning all
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[08:37:12] <mozzwald> rkdavis: are those 1200 pages of technical docs out on the net somewhere for download?
[08:40:18] <rkdavis> mozzwald: yes although i got them from GPSFan. let me see if i can get a url for you
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[08:42:29] <rkdavis> mozzwald: this seems to be at least the same size -- there are a few versions out there but apart from the fonts in the sidebar it looks the same http://www.balloonboard.org/hardware/300/ds/PXA270-dev-manual.pdf
[08:45:16] <mozzwald> rkdavis: looks like I got some reading to do. thanks
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[08:48:02] <rkdavis> mozzwald: print it out and use it to prop up the desk
[08:48:41] <rkdavis> mozzwald: depending one what you want to find out the ds might be a good read too
[08:48:59] <rkdavis> http://www.phytec.com/pdf/datasheets/PXA270_DS.pdf
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[09:00:18] <Adnyxo> morning
[09:00:38] <Mcavity[A]> hi
[09:02:56] <rkdavis> morning
[09:03:57] <Mcavity[A]> found out vlc will run.. just wont play video at any sort for rate lol
[09:05:46] <jagsph_> rkdavis: where can i get paid to learn to program on these devices
[09:08:08] <mozzwald> rkdavis: Thanks for the info. I just want to see what else I can do with the zipit. Maybe hookup some hardware. Just for learning.
[09:08:21] <mozzwald> time for work...
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[09:08:32] <Mcavity[A]> jagsph_ china?
[09:08:36] <rkdavis> jagsph_: depends who's hiring atm
[09:08:49] <jagsph_> Mcavity: thats a good one :)
[09:08:53] <rkdavis> jagsph_: but macavity is prolly right
[09:08:58] <rkdavis> :)
[09:09:09] <rkdavis> so you'd need to learn mandarin too
[09:09:30] <rkdavis> oh darn i spelt closed incorrectly
[09:09:31] <Adnyxo> rkdavis, a little help copying the hurricane files. You'd think I would learn... sudo cp -RvPp /home/aaron/hurricane /dev/sdb1
[09:09:33] <jagsph_> i just need to listen to the sound of a forks vibration down our hallway
[09:09:47] <Adnyxo> cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/sdb1' with directory `/home/aaron/hurricane'
[09:09:59] <jagsph_> sudo cp -RvPp /home/aaron/hurricane/. /dev/sdb
[09:10:02] <jagsph_> why dont you just do this...
[09:10:08] <rkdavis> jagsph_: do you prefer a return value or a string for the lid app?
[09:10:36] <jagsph_> cd $/mnt/sdb1 ; tar xvjf /path/to/hurricane.tar.bz2
[09:10:58] <Adnyxo> okay
[09:11:06] <jagsph_> andyxo: do it as root
[09:11:19] <jagsph_> rkdavis: please elaborate..... im not a programmer
[09:11:31] <jagsph_> do i prefer having it report when it opens and closes with a value?
[09:11:38] <Adnyxo> lol sudo cd command not found
[09:11:40] <Adnyxo> ?
[09:11:44] <Adnyxo> cd
[09:12:02] <jagsph_> ummm
[09:12:09] <jagsph_> adnyxo u make this so difficult
[09:12:24] <Adnyxo> it works when im not root
[09:12:30] <Adnyxo> linux hates me
[09:12:46] <jagsph_> sudo bash ; cd /mnt/path-to-sdcard-partition1; tar xvjf /path/to/hurricane.tar.bz2
[09:12:52] <Adnyxo> i just did a fresh install, i dont think i could have screwed anything up?
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[09:13:27] <jagsph_> rkdavis: do you remember that you can control the power button from there as well?
[09:13:35] <rkdavis> jagsph_: atm i am just doing it as a polling when run as then it can be put inside a bash loop or run at a specific time, but to make it a daemon won;t be too hard
[09:13:55] <rkdavis> jagsph_: can't control it but i can see if it is currently pressed
[09:14:34] <rkdavis> might be able to put that into a prog to tell if it HAS been pressed though
[09:14:36] <jagsph_> rkdavis: thats what i meant... ; by reading hex from /dev/input/event1 ; doing the same thing i did with dd in c?
[09:14:46] <rkdavis> but let me finish the lid one first, probably another 30 mins
[09:14:51] <jagsph_> rkdavis: with the bash script i can tell if its being pressed, and depressed
[09:15:30] <Adnyxo> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m70f339c9 FML
[09:15:37] <rkdavis> jagsph_: another gpio i can test is if it's currently plugged into the mains or not, that could be handy for setting the backlight values don't you think?
[09:15:54] <rkdavis> but less talking more coding :)
[09:16:03] <jagsph_> rkdavis: and my loop doesnt draw cpu overhead.... ..... yes very true
[09:16:29] <jagsph_> rkdavis: if you tell me where to read the event from a file ill make another no overhead script :)
[09:16:49] <jagsph_> adnyxo: heh mount it
[09:17:00] <jagsph_> lets see its probably mounted
[09:17:01] <jagsph_> df -h
[09:17:18] <jagsph_> if its not mount /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mount/to
[09:17:44] <jagsph_> i made the error of assumign you knew a little bit more, sorry :)
[09:18:24] <Adnyxo> jagsph_ eventually ill learn
[09:18:31] <jagsph_> /dev/* is a liunx device file, such as in windows a com port or a hard disk or a printer port.
[09:18:47] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: its all good....
[09:19:00] <jagsph_> rkdavis still deals with me and i dont know the first thing about c.
[09:19:15] <jagsph_> everything i do must seem so remedial to him HEH
[09:19:29] <Adnyxo> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m7f89065f
[09:19:37] <Adnyxo> df -h
[09:19:43] * Mcavity[A] says goo goo ga ga
[09:20:04] * Adnyxo HEY!
[09:20:20] <jagsph_> adnyxo: cd /media/de2c48fb-b7a5-431d-874c-2b4a7a6e784e
[09:20:34] <jagsph_> thats where its mounted to.
[09:20:36] <Adnyxo> thats nice
[09:20:42] <Adnyxo> ill cut and paste lol
[09:20:51] <jagsph_> or u could do cd /media/de*
[09:21:00] <jagsph_> wildcards in linux are your friend
[09:22:01] <Adnyxo> okay
[09:22:04] <Adnyxo> hey its working
[09:22:11] <Adnyxo> thanks jagsph_
[09:22:52] <Adnyxo> heh im such a linux noob
[09:23:36] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: imaging someone working with linux years ago with no experience installing it from floppy disks
[09:23:43] <Adnyxo> wow
[09:23:58] <Adnyxo> fortunately for me im young enough to have never used floppy disks
[09:24:40] <jagsph_> this was one of the oldest distributions thats left around today.... i used this one http://slackware.com/ not very friendly
[09:25:41] <Mcavity[A]> i used tape drives
[09:26:38] <Adnyxo> hey can you suggest a desktop linux distro? i change distros frequently so i was wondering if there were some i should put on my list
[09:27:16] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: ubuntu 10 release is from what i am told supposed to be good enough to compete with windows once released in april
[09:27:35] <jagsph_> adnyxo: also linux mint supposedly installs everything ubuntu is missing out of the bosx
[09:28:17] <jagsph_> other than that if you want to waste a lot of your life learning how to use linux you could hop into gentoo....
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[09:28:31] <Adnyxo> right now im using mint
[09:28:32] <jagsph_> adnyxo: key word on waste... it takes a lot of time
[09:28:47] <Adnyxo> i dont have enough time for gentoo right now
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[09:30:03] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: my best advice for now is stick to an ubuntu distribution. the way the market is headed shows it to be mainstream.
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[09:30:57] <Adnyxo> lol
[09:31:07] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: for a little bit of frustration you can install debian and apt-get upgrade to their testing branch
[09:33:56] <Adnyxo> that might work
[09:34:06] <Adnyxo> i want to learn some, but dont have unlimited time
[09:34:41] <jagsph_> let me see if i can find you an easy document to read
[09:35:25] <jagsph_> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[09:35:40] <jagsph_> also http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
[09:35:46] <jagsph_> stick those in your bookmarks.
[09:39:48] <Adnyxo> okay cool
[09:55:51] <SDuensin> Morning.
[10:00:20] <rkdavis> jagsph_: ok put a quick and dirty hack up for the lid switch -- you'll need to compile it for debian yourself as i am using a uClibc system but it works very well here. -- you might want to remove the printf's though so it just does it via return values and $?
[10:00:33] <rkdavis> http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2/lid.c
[10:00:58] <rkdavis> and i set it up so it can be changed to the power cord or power key with about 1 line change per
[10:04:47] <jagsph_> rkdavis: thanks. ill take a look at it a little later i saved it to my desktop im excited about this.
[10:06:02] <rkdavis> it's a little (alot) mickey mouse but it does the job and it is easy to change for other readable gpio i.e. ac power, power button.......
[10:06:33] <rkdavis> and it's REALLY bad C code :) but it is readable
[10:06:53] <jagsph_> rkdavis: i wouldnt know the difference between good or bad
[10:07:29] <rkdavis> jagsph_: that's what i was hoping, so burn all copies after compiling :)
[10:07:39] <SDuensin> It's easy. Bad C code is unreadable while good C code is unreadable with nice indenting.
[10:08:15] <rkdavis> i did steal^H^H^H^H^Hborrow most of the code from devmem2 :)
[10:10:06] <jagsph_> rkdavis you violated gpl i see nothing in the comments :)
[10:11:24] <rkdavis> jagsph_: of course i did
[10:12:03] <rkdavis> but i violated more than devmem2's so they can fight it out
[10:17:28] <rkdavis> actually just trying it built static so you the executable may work without you compiling it
[10:17:37] <rkdavis> there is a binary in the same place
[10:17:48] <rkdavis> if you wanna try it
[10:24:44] <rkdavis> removed the printf's so you'll have to use the return values i.e. $?
[10:25:09] <rkdavis> going to put in some error checking now and then do the ac power version and the powerbtn version
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[10:57:24] <jagsph_> rkdavis: im working on rc1 i got a lot of feedback so its going to be something good
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[10:59:46] <rkdavis> jagsph_: cool -- i really must try it on my u-booted zipit but i just haven't had the energy to get out of bed and walk across the room to it
[11:00:25] <jagsph_> rkdavis: the next release will make it a lot more friendly
[11:05:14] <rkdavis> i'll probably have to change the partition layout as u-boot uses a fat partition as partition 1 where the kernel lives but that should hopefully be all
[11:06:28] <rkdavis> ok adding sone safety to the prog, and removing all the stuff I /borrowed/ from devmem2 :)
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[11:16:31] <jagsph_> borrowing without permission is the same as stealing rkdavis
[11:16:55] <Adnyxo> hey jagsph_ i booted into the image but z2 mouse option is not working
[11:17:00] <Adnyxo> i told you technology hated me
[11:17:41] <jagsph_> *sigh*
[11:17:53] <Adnyxo> i know, i fail
[11:18:09] <Adnyxo> i may just try untarring again, perhaps the file got corrupted
[11:18:13] <rkdavis> jagsph_: well that's a philosphical discussion waiting to happen :)
[11:18:18] <Adnyxo> i dont know why i have so much bad luck
[11:18:35] <Adnyxo> rkdavis: what if they wouldve given you permission had you asked
[11:18:43] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: ill have a new one soon
[11:19:00] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: want a screenshot?
[11:19:11] <rkdavis> jagsph_: and they stole it from..... who stole it from...... whole ripped it off from CP/M who borrowed it from whoever
[11:19:20] <Adnyxo> jagsph_ yes
[11:19:23] <jagsph_> Ive fully integrated a launcher panel and a couplpe of new features :)
[11:19:46] <jagsph_> rkdavis: there is no stealing
[11:20:06] <Adnyxo> kk, wheres the screenshot?
[11:20:17] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: patience young grasshopper,
[11:20:20] <jagsph_> I havent taken it yet
[11:20:38] <rkdavis> and i'll rewrite it in assembler seeing as it was only the technique i wanted to see how to do, the actual code is basically pretty bog standard stuff that a monkey in a tuxedo could write blindfolded
[11:21:48] <jagsph_> rkdavis: ahh old classmates of yours?
[11:23:20] <rkdavis> yes and they got better grades than me in COBOL
[11:26:35] * Adnyxo is liking linux min t
[11:26:47] <jagsph_> http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3637/screenshotjm.png
[11:26:53] <jagsph_> There you go Adnyxo
[11:27:06] <jagsph_> rkdavis: you can look also
[11:27:52] <rkdavis> pretty -- just as a matter of interest how much cpu etc. does top say you are using?
[11:28:05] <Adnyxo> 0o shiny
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[11:28:25] <jagsph_> cpu is only around 2 %
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[11:28:37] <jagsph_> 15mb of ram free
[11:29:17] <Adnyxo> if i use a class 6 sdhc card, will the swap be faster?
[11:31:31] <jagsph_> if rkdavis touches it first
[11:32:21] <rkdavis> jagsph_: pretty cool you are keeping the cpu usage so low
[11:32:51] <jagsph_> rkdavis: you see the green little thingy in the bottom theres a graph showing cpu usage
[11:33:58] <rkdavis> ok new version of lid.c going up with the static binary -- has sonme error checking in there now, returns 1 for open, 0 for closed and 255 if the world has ended
[11:34:59] <jagsph_> rkdavis: can you program into it to turn on and off the display by reading from a config file and have a power button action for the config file
[11:35:17] <jagsph_> otherwise its not going to save me cpu or memory ......
[11:35:27] <Adnyxo> rkdavis: can the zipits mini sd port make full use of a 4 gig class 6 sdhc card?
[11:35:45] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: it can of a class 4 8gb :)
[11:36:18] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: i have never had any luck with sdhc cards but others have said they work well
[11:36:37] <Adnyxo> okay good
[11:36:47] <Adnyxo> trying to decide which sd card to use
[11:36:59] <rkdavis> straight microsd i've heard upto 8gig but i've not had anything work above 2gig for me and i only use sandisk
[11:37:02] <jagsph_> just buy it, if it doesnt work return it saying it was incompatible with your device
[11:41:59] <jagsph_> rkdavis: this is about the same setup i have on my desktop at home heh
[11:42:15] <Gnuet> el-cheapo-4Gb microSD's from dealextreme and focalprice work flawless :D
[11:42:25] <rkdavis> jagsph_: the zipit is probably beter spec'ed too :)
[11:42:38] <jagsph_> rkdavis: wanna fight?
[11:43:14] <rkdavis> jagsph_: nope but i have a laptop that the zipit has better specs than that i run a tiny linux distro on
[11:43:49] <rkdavis> and i use that one alot -- doesn't have usb port, 16meg ram , 1 gig hd.....
[11:43:50] <jagsph_> rkdavis: heh.. well i do have a 450mhz PII? or 3? sitting in the corner its got 64mb of ram...
[11:44:13] <jagsph_> rkdavis: i should show you a picture of the thing. it actually works its in this hacked together case....
[11:44:36] <rkdavis> i still have one that's vase is an old fruit crate
[11:44:41] <rkdavis> s/vase/case
[11:45:02] <jagsph_> u r the man
[11:45:08] <rkdavis> uses 5.25" floppies -- it's my floppy conversion system
[11:45:13] <Gnuet> ^^
[11:45:32] <jagsph_> mine has been fitted to an old hp case thats been spraypainted with black primer
[11:45:33] <rkdavis> i couldn;t find a case for it so took a fruit crate and some poly
[11:45:48] <jagsph_> some internals have been cut out to fit the pieces
[11:45:51] <rkdavis> aND NAILED EVERYTHING IN
[11:45:55] <rkdavis> oopsy
[11:46:00] <rkdavis> bloody keyboard
[11:46:01] <jagsph_> and i cant fully insert the drive bays because my power supplye is too large
[11:46:18] <rkdavis> you have drive bays, oooo aren't we fancy
[11:46:46] <jagsph_> i live in one of the new fancy western states .... i have access to these things
[11:48:55] <rkdavis> i didn't buy a NEW computer from 1986 to 2008 -- everything i have was found via freecycle and garbage day rummaging
[11:49:12] <Gnuet> that's recycling :D
[11:49:19] <jagsph_> rkdavis: ever go out behind goodwill at night and look for night dump donations of pcs?
[11:49:22] <Gnuet> i never throw away computers :D
[11:49:26] <Adnyxo> sometimes theres good stuff on freecycle
[11:49:33] <Adnyxo> i got an old pc from there
[11:49:39] <rkdavis> did get sent the amd desktop though on semi-perminant loan though to do some beta testing of a 64bit xmpp server for a company
[11:50:10] <jagsph_> rkdavis: if you want to send me your old laptop i like tinkering with old hardware to see what i can make it do
[11:50:23] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: i've got loads of good things from freecycle unfortunaty the nyc one has grown too big so hard to jump on anything as over 30k people also trying at the same time
[11:50:48] <rkdavis> jagsph_: i'm using it -- it's my serial terminal
[11:51:16] <jagsph_> rkdavis: put a basic links2 desktop on it and sell it as a netbook for $150
[11:51:28] <jagsph_> rkdavis: then buy a newer one, profit
[11:51:42] <rkdavis> mostly used for doing stuff with the ultrasparc and a bit of modem'ing
[11:52:06] <rkdavis> jagsph_: i was actually thinking if putting a browser kiosky thing on it for the wife
[11:52:08] <jagsph_> rkdavis: the slowest thing i have in use here is a 366mhz laptop with 256mb of ram for the gf
[11:52:15] <jagsph_> rkdavis: lol
[11:52:18] <rkdavis> although i need to get a new wifi card for it
[11:52:27] <Gnuet> oh, that sounds like my cats' house ;D
[11:52:30] <jagsph_> rkdavis: u said it did or did not have usb?
[11:52:34] <Gnuet> an old iBook clamsheel
[11:52:39] <rkdavis> it's so old it doesn't even have wifi builtin
[11:53:19] <jagsph_> rkdavis: usb? pcmcia?
[11:53:22] <rkdavis> jagsph_: i have a couple of commie 64's and a timex 1000 (from freecycle) that i use occasionally and a 8086 pc clone
[11:53:46] <rkdavis> jagsph_: no usb, does have pcmcia and currently using a wifi card from 1999
[11:54:05] <rkdavis> i need to update it as it only does b and 64bit wep
[11:54:19] <rkdavis> and i turned all that stuff off ages ago :)
[11:54:34] <jagsph_> rkdavis: what can you do with an 8086 now ? ....... i have 2 pcmcia wifi cards sitting around here, the pcmcia in gfs laptop only works when it wants to, and when it does ill get kernel panics or blue screens
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[11:55:10] <rkdavis> bwahahahahhahaa the "inhibit charging" gpio works from my test prog, shoudl add that to your start up script so people canna charge their zipit's
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[11:55:42] <Adnyxo> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[11:55:42] <Adnyxo>
[11:55:47] <Adnyxo> i believe thats bad
[11:55:49] <rkdavis> jagsph_: the 8086 is used for playing astrotit and alley cat :) and propping the table up
[11:56:11] <jagsph_> adnyxo: thats why it failed u have a corrupted download
[11:56:18] <jagsph_> rkdavis: put minix onit
[11:57:07] <jagsph_> i think minix runs on 8086
[11:57:36] <Adnyxo> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m5bba6f51
[11:57:43] <Adnyxo> if someone wants to help me
[11:59:02] <jagsph_> adnyxo: take out the v option from tar and u will see where the error happens
[11:59:58] <Adnyxo> ill just download again, untarring took an hour
[12:00:20] <Adnyxo> why does everything hate me
[12:00:41] <Gnuet> you're just out of luck :D
[12:01:44] <jagsph_> blame rkdavis
[12:02:23] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: you untarring directlyt to the sd card?
[12:02:27] <Adnyxo> yes
[12:02:50] <jagsph_> The only thing I can assume is if you arent doing it as root u cant create device files
[12:02:54] <rkdavis> if you are and can do it to the harddisk instead i.e. running linux untar it to the hd it'll error faster
[12:03:06] <rkdavis> and then copy it
[12:03:19] <Adnyxo> i wasnt sudo, that could be the problem
[12:04:18] <Gnuet> that was ze problem.
[12:05:02] <Adnyxo> okay time to try agian
[12:05:31] <jagsph_> rkdavis: did u get a chance to try my quake binary for z2?
[12:06:16] <Adnyxo> 0o quake?!
[12:06:39] <jagsph_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9dj6wzCs1E
[12:06:56] <Gnuet> do need.
[12:08:16] <jagsph_> I need help figuring something out...
[12:08:30] <jagsph_> i cant seem to find an option for it but i can bind a key to it...
[12:08:49] <jagsph_> i want to take away window borders and force full screen from matchbox by use of the command line
[12:11:44] <rkdavis> well what do you bind the key as?
[12:12:16] <jagsph_> well my key binding works in ~/.matchbox/kbdconfig <ctrl>+f=fullscreen
[12:12:37] <jagsph_> i figured matchbox-remote could do it..... i want to automate the process for some applications
[12:13:47] <jagsph_> i cannot find any documentation for even using the f=fullscreen
[12:13:55] <jagsph_> wicknix told me about it....
[12:15:59] <jagsph_> rkdavis: is there anyway to automate the insertion of keys with one of those utils so i can pass it at the command line?
[12:18:48] <jagsph_> rkdavis: when a program has the option of full screen and i try to open it full screen it shifts the display
[12:19:41] <jagsph_> i think its because of the rotate CCW
[12:20:16] <rkdavis> jagsph_: you can program a key to be a macro
[12:20:31] <rkdavis> and yes the rotation might cause a problem
[12:23:49] <jagsph_> rkdavis: i cant seem to figure out how to pass that command to x...
[12:28:51] <jagsph_> rkdavis: screw it im removing the title bar
[12:31:26] <Adnyxo> so i still get the error with a new download and as root
[12:31:55] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: what untar command line are you using?
[12:32:10] <Adnyxo> bash
[12:32:21] <jagsph_> he means what flags are you passing to tar
[12:32:25] <jagsph_> xvjf right
[12:32:49] <Adnyxo> um idk
[12:33:07] <jagsph_> tar xvjf
[12:33:37] <rkdavis> should be something like sudo tar -xzvf the tarball -C /path/to
[12:33:51] <rkdavis> the -C is important
[12:35:50] <rkdavis> and add ps to the xzvf can't hurt either
[12:37:34] <Adnyxo> aaron@aaron-main ~ $ sudo tar xvjf /home/aaron/Documents/rootfs-hurricane-rc0.tar.bz2
[12:38:29] <rkdavis> and where are you extracting them to?
[12:39:01] <Adnyxo> /media/areallylongname
[12:40:28] <rkdavis> sudo tar -xjvf /home/aaron/Documents/rootfs-hurricane-rc0.tar.bz2 -C /home/arron/extracted or something will probably work better but make the dir extracted
[12:40:43] <rkdavis> it'll error quicker at least for testing
[12:40:50] <Adnyxo> okay
[12:41:39] <rkdavis> and do it from the /home/aaron/Documents dir too -- won't make a difference but it means we will be in a known directory
[12:42:32] <Adnyxo> tar: Record size = 8 blocks
[12:42:32] <Adnyxo> tar: /home/arron/hurricane: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[12:42:32] <Adnyxo> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:42:40] <Adnyxo> but there is a dir named hurricane
[12:43:30] <rkdavis> looks like a permissions error
[12:44:21] <rkdavis> cut&paste the exact command line you used -- the whole thing
[12:44:43] <Adnyxo> aaron@aaron-main ~ $ sudo tar -xjvf /home/aaron/Documents/rootfs-hurricane-rc0.tar.bz2 -C /home/arron/hurricane
[12:44:43] <Adnyxo> tar: Record size = 8 blocks
[12:44:43] <Adnyxo> tar: /home/arron/hurricane: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[12:44:43] <Adnyxo> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:44:43] <Adnyxo> aaron@aaron-main ~ $
[12:46:17] <rkdavis> it's a permisssions problem chmod 777 /home/arron/hurricane
[12:46:56] <rkdavis> bet it's currently something like 444 or 400
[12:47:31] <jagsph_> rkdavis: first of all its going to litter his home dir with crap..... second of all 777 would be a particularly bad decision to do if anyone else had access to his system
[12:47:56] <Adnyxo> no one has access to this system
[12:48:05] <jagsph_> i just missed that he added the -c to hurricane
[12:48:18] <rkdavis> jagsph_: yes it would and i wouldn't normally d it but lets see what the problem is first
[12:48:26] <jagsph_> Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[12:48:36] <jagsph_> probably mis spelled or typed something.
[12:49:12] <rkdavis> and it's not as if he is going to keep thedirectory around after extraction
[12:49:15] <jagsph_> i see he put 2 r's
[12:49:19] <ogmious09_> Good Morning!
[12:49:20] <jagsph_> it should be /home/aaron
[12:49:24] <jagsph_> not /home/arron
[12:49:31] <Adnyxo> ung
[12:49:55] <rkdavis> yup spelling his own name right would help :)
[12:50:09] <rkdavis> morning ogmious09
[12:52:13] <Mcavity[A]> humm
[12:52:29] <jagsph_> mcavity: hi... check this out
[12:52:36] <jagsph_> http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3637/screenshotjm.png
[12:52:49] <jagsph_> a preview of what the RC1 will have by default...
[12:53:21] <Mcavity[A]> pretty
[12:53:27] <jagsph_> im optimizing the scripts and adding some new useful utilities ... filesystem cleanup... no more doing whippets while i work on it
[12:53:51] <Mcavity[A]> im trying to see if i can get rdesktop to work.. but i et failed to open display
[12:54:01] <Mcavity[A]> sweet
[12:55:05] <Mcavity[A]> that does look nice.
[12:55:32] <Mcavity[A]> and still has 15 megs free for aps i i read the scroll right
[12:56:46] <Mcavity[A]> DISPLAY=:0 right?
[12:57:09] <ogmious09_> I vote the desktop wallpaper be the red headed pnecil topper
[12:57:15] <ogmious09_> *pencil too
[12:58:04] <nebukan> jagsph_: i tried your rootfs-hurricane-rc0.tar.bz2.tar but it just hanged during boot
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[12:58:55] <nebukan> jagsph_: it just blinks for abouut 4 sec and then nothing
[12:58:58] <ogmious09_> I tried cleaning rust off my bumper. Didn't work jagsph_
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[12:59:16] <nebukan> jagsph_: mayby ints my sdcard come to think about it..
[12:59:28] <ogmious09_> Will it make my blind cat see jagsph_ ?
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[13:01:58] <jagsph_> nebukan: just wait for the next release... ill post a pre of rc1 in a few
[13:02:15] <nebukan> jagsph_: cool
[13:03:41] <nebukan> jagsph_: ar u having problems with the hwclock aswell? (in yr new screen its 12.01 )
[13:05:39] <jagsph_> nebukan: i havent tried to configure hwclock yet. from what i understand as soon as the battery dies thats it and u have to reset it again.
[13:07:56] <jagsph_> nebukan: tarring up the pre for rc1
[13:09:09] <Mcavity[A]> the clock is a pain.. some point will have to make a script to auto config it.
[13:10:11] <jagsph_> mcavity: i plan on doing something with it. but its not a big concern right now.
[13:10:27] <Mcavity[A]> yea
[13:10:37] <jagsph_> infact its at the bottom of my priorities
[13:10:42] <Mcavity[A]> hehe
[13:11:16] <jagsph_> mcavity: did you put in the new power management sh script?
[13:11:25] <jagsph_> if you did press your power button :)
[13:11:28] <Mcavity[A]> yes
[13:11:44] <jagsph_> i was able to bind it to execute the shutdown menu
[13:11:52] <Mcavity[A]> cool
[13:12:03] <Mcavity[A]> so if i hit the power button it should pop a menu?
[13:12:24] <jagsph_> yep... should pop up the shutdown menu
[13:12:30] <jagsph_> it does on mine
[13:13:13] <jagsph_> mcavity, nebukan: how big are your sd cards?
[13:13:36] <Mcavity[A]> 4 gig
[13:14:37] <jagsph_> ok that will be fine for the test release. i have a lot of stuff on it
[13:15:07] <Mcavity[A]> =)
[13:17:23] <jagsph_> mcavity: in about 1 hour and 30 minutes download http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE0/
[13:17:27] <nebukan> jagsph_: 2gig
[13:17:36] <jagsph_> nebukan: thats fine for the test release
[13:17:52] <nebukan> nice
[13:18:08] <jagsph_> http://zipit.rootnexus.org/files/Z2-USERLAND/RC1-PRE0/ <---- total file size is 219,134,281 bytes this has all the latest features... it will be done in about an hour and a half
[13:19:02] <Mcavity[A]> coolness ill check it out tonight when i wake up. its sleep time!
[13:20:40] <jagsph_> mcavity: alright, cool, when u do it tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sdcard-partition1 and you wont ever have to wait for a filesystem check again
[13:23:14] <Mcavity[A]> funny! i got grdesktop to work.. but imagine trying to get windows at 320x240
[13:25:11] <Mcavity[A]> needs a virtual desktop
[13:25:13] <jagsph_> mcavity: you can use vnc
[13:25:53] <Mcavity[A]> yea ill figure it out at some point
[13:26:09] <jagsph_> http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?%20func=view&catid=9&id=1615 this tells u how to do it
[13:30:15] <Mcavity[A]> i was jsut hopeing to use rdp rather than having to run a vnc server.. but shrug
[13:30:53] <ogmious09_> jagsph_: did you put a redtube button in links2 for this release?
[13:31:12] <jagsph_> ogmious09_: if i did that would u buy it from me?
[13:31:26] <ogmious09_> What's your game stranger?
[13:37:43] <Mcavity[A]> ok off to bed
[13:40:41] <jagsph_> ogmious09: you ask me a question like that and u dont give me a proper answer?
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[13:57:01] <rkdavis> wb mozz
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[14:09:06] <Nonya-Biz> is rkdavis here?
[14:09:43] <Adnyxo> yes
[14:09:59] <rkdavis> Nonya-Biz: depends what you mean by here
[14:10:04] <Adnyxo> lol
[14:10:17] <rkdavis> am i at the keyboard yes, is my mind here too well thats debatable
[14:10:33] <rkdavis> but that's been debatable for many years
[14:11:24] <Nonya-Biz> you know if any of the testpoints on the zipit board go to the usb?
[14:12:00] <rkdavis> Nonya-Biz: not that nayone has found and published
[14:12:24] <rkdavis> the chip does it but as far as we know it's not be pilled out to where we can get it
[14:12:37] <rkdavis> although usbclient/gadget is available
[14:13:03] <Nonya-Biz> i know it goes to the dock connector
[14:13:41] <Nonya-Biz> its too small to solder to tho
[14:14:00] <rkdavis> Nonya-Biz: well that's why you use the connector
[14:14:08] <rkdavis> easy to get and pretty cheap too
[14:14:16] <rkdavis> only about $3 from digikey
[14:14:36] <rkdavis> but it's client so pretty limited
[14:15:17] <Nonya-Biz> well i aded a mini usb to charge mine and it would be nice if it actualy worked
[14:17:46] <Nonya-Biz> well thanks anyway
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[14:20:56] <Adnyxo> whats the framerate like on the snes emulation jagsph_?
[14:23:02] <Adnyxo> rkdavis can you link to the dock connector on digikey?
[14:23:21] <rkdavis> i can't link to it but i can give you the part number
[14:23:25] <Adnyxo> okay
[14:24:34] <rkdavis> search on digikey for this part number ST40X-36S-CV(80)
[14:24:47] <rkdavis> that's the cable connector
[14:25:21] <jagsph_> adnyxo: playable when sound is off :)
[14:25:22] <jagsph_> brb
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[14:26:32] <Adnyxo> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m2fdb3230 even as sudo, cant extract.
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[14:31:09] <rkdavis> mompls
[14:36:58] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: that's strange. almost as if you aren't really sudo'ed
[14:37:25] <Adnyxo> ive downloaded it like three times
[14:38:09] <Adnyxo> im the only user on this comp
[14:38:28] <rkdavis> Adnyxo: not really recommended but
[14:38:33] <rkdavis> sudo su
[14:38:43] <rkdavis> and then do the tar
[14:38:51] <Adnyxo> okay'
[14:40:28] <Adnyxo> now how should i copy the files, i didnt get any errors this time
[14:42:01] <Adnyxo> cp -RvPp?
[14:42:59] <rkdavis> it didn't error at all?
[14:43:03] <Adnyxo> no
[14:43:15] <Adnyxo> it said it completed successfully
[14:43:19] <rkdavis> ok then you can change the extraction path to your sd card
[14:43:48] <rkdavis> or copy it and yes that looks about right for th ecp command
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[14:44:14] <rkdavis> might find it better to use the tar to put it on your card directly
[14:44:22] <Adnyxo> okay
[14:44:40] <rkdavis> once it is on your card then ctrl-d to get back to user rather than root
[14:48:17] <jagsph_> Adnyxo: do this before you do the extract
[14:48:20] <jagsph_> sudo bash
[14:48:26] <Adnyxo> too late
[14:48:30] <jagsph_> then you should have a'#' prompt
[14:48:37] <jagsph_> oh u got it right heh
[14:48:39] <jagsph_> didnt notice
[14:48:59] <jagsph_> yeh next time just work as root by doing sudo bash....
[14:49:15] <Adnyxo> okay thats a good idea
[14:49:24] <Adnyxo> now im waiting for the extract to the sd card
[14:49:33] <Adnyxo> this could take a long time
[14:59:06] <jagsph_> adnyxo: my test release finished uploading
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[15:12:32] <jagsph_> http://zipit.rootnexus.org/ it finished uploading. i attached an md5sum
[15:13:18] <Adnyxo> so all this for nothing, i can get the newer image now?
[15:14:08] <jagsph_> hahah... thats how it works...
[15:14:13] <jagsph_> :) at least u know how to do it
[15:14:30] <Adnyxo> hopefully
[15:14:37] <Adnyxo> but with my luck, something else will go wrong
[15:14:39] <jagsph_> its a work in progress...when u dont see rc0 and rc1 and pre on it then its a final release...
[15:15:43] <Adnyxo> rc1pre0?
[15:16:26] <jagsph_> yeh. i gotta figure out my naming...
[15:16:38] <jagsph_> its a lot more usable imo now
[15:16:57] <Adnyxo> what do i do with the md5sum
[15:17:50] <jagsph_> you can verify the file with m5sum
[15:17:54] <jagsph_> man md5sum
[15:18:04] <Adnyxo> that would be great
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[16:38:40] <rkdavis> jagsph_: i put two more binaries up -- same thing as the lid one but acpower retruns 1 if pluged in, 0 if running off battery and 255 if the world is blowing up and powerbtn returns 0 if pressed, 1 if not and 255 if Adnyxohas managed to get the sd card written
[16:41:49] <ogmious09> Hey jagsph_ gimme a youtube link to your stuff again, showing it off to a friend
[16:45:28] <ogmious09> friggin jaqogg, never around when I need him
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[16:47:15] <pabilo> jagsph_ : hi there i have played around for almost an hour now :)
[16:47:31] <pabilo> its great
[16:48:21] <pabilo> quake is great~!!!!!!!1
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[17:39:47] <jagsph_> damn found a bug in power management script
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[17:55:04] <jagsph_> rkdavis
[17:55:15] <jagsph_> theres a gpio for inserting and removing headphones
[17:55:27] <jagsph_> i had to do a rewrite of my script because it was triggering the display lol
[17:56:15] <jagsph_> i put in more strict rules to not assume anything so if another one gets triggered if it doesnt know the function it wont act on it
[17:56:32] <rkdavis> jagsph_: yes lotsa nice gpio's just some get fiddily because you have to set them up first
[17:56:55] <jagsph_> yeh it caught me by suprise....
[17:57:03] <jagsph_> HEX=0000000 6cd2 386d e97f 0009 0005 0002 0001 0000
[17:57:03] <jagsph_> VALUE=0001
[17:57:03] <jagsph_> CODE=0002
[17:57:03] <jagsph_> Inserted Heaphones
[17:57:22] <rkdavis> that's the problem with events -- sometimes you have to mask :)
[17:57:52] <jagsph_> i didnt realize there were more events bound to that... now i check the code and the value of the code first
[17:58:19] <rkdavis> i have to burn a new copy of sysresccd the version i had sitting here is so old it doesn't recognicse my sd card slot
[17:59:32] <rkdavis> i was going to overright my oe sd card with your stuff on .30 kernel
[17:59:49] <rkdavis> bty you know you have a useless file in your tarball
[17:59:56] <rkdavis> don't you
[18:00:52] <rkdavis> why have yoy kept uImage in there
[18:01:00] <rkdavis> s/yoy/you
[18:01:37] <jagsph_> ?
[18:01:55] <jagsph_> no idea...
[18:04:12] <jagsph_> well there is a bug in the rc1- pre release
[18:04:21] <jagsph_> if you insert headphones your display turns off lol
[18:08:16] <rkdavis> jagsph_: you should be able to remove uImage as it's for ubooted systems
[18:08:29] <rkdavis> and it shuldn't live there anyway :)
[18:12:58] <jagsph_> lives where it wants
[18:14:00] <jagsph_> rkdavis: http://zipit.pastebin.com/f1b9741d3
[18:32:35] <rkdavis> jagsph_: btw did my static binaries work on your system? just interested if they did work as statics as i only tested them on stock and run them as shared in reality
[18:34:43] <jagsph_> rkdavis: i didnt test them yet
[18:35:19] <jagsph_> rkdavis i only saved your lid.c what is the url
[18:38:51] <rkdavis> http://russelldavis.org/ZipitZ2
[18:39:43] <jagsph_> whats russeldavis.org hosted on? dialup?
[18:40:56] <jagsph_> dude thats a lot of code for something so simple :)
[18:44:04] <jagsph_> user@OpenZipIt:/tmp$ chmod 755 acpower
[18:44:04] <jagsph_> user@OpenZipIt:/tmp$ ./acpower
[18:44:04] <jagsph_> Segmentation fault
[18:44:04] <jagsph_> 3
[18:44:54] <jagsph_> all 3
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[18:59:39] <jagsph_> rkdavis: http://zipit.pastebin.com/f2228b932 replace your /etc/power-management.sh with the new version
[19:00:24] <rkdavis> jagsph_: can't replace what i don't have (yet) -- need to burn a new livecd the old one i had doesn't handle my sd card reader
[19:00:35] <jagsph_> sorry thought you had gotten further already :)
[19:01:45] <rkdavis> jagsph_: ok you will need to compile them yourself then, wasn't sure but handy to know that either the arm version is wrong or the something else. did you try them as root? that could be it as mmap needs privs most of the time
[19:02:10] <jagsph_> yep tried as root
[19:02:25] <jagsph_> you compiled for the wrong arm version i believe
[19:02:32] <rkdavis> nope wife rang then i had to go tell the landlady she's get her cash tomorrow as she wanted cash this month not cheque
[19:02:46] <rkdavis> jagsph_: nope you are using the wrong arm version :)
[19:03:04] <rkdavis> i compiled for armv4 the debian is using armv5 iirc
[19:03:12] <jagsph_> OpenZipIt:/tmp# file acpower
[19:03:13] <jagsph_> acpower: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1, statically linked, not stripped
[19:03:21] <rkdavis> the cpu is actually armv4.5
[19:03:24] <jagsph_> armv5tel
[19:03:46] <rkdavis> yup they shoudl mix but with sometimes they don;t play well
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[19:08:48] <jagsph_> rkdavis has quit (Read error: Erection reset by queer) <--- whats going on was ogmious09 giving u /msg ?
[19:09:08] <rkdavis> flick knows
[19:09:50] <rkdavis> i keep getting ctcp'd by a user called frigg too
[19:10:07] <jagsph_> its a bot looking for botts and war scripts like 7thsphere
[19:24:40] <jagsph_> 3474390949
[19:24:54] <jagsph_> rkdavis:
[19:25:06] <jagsph_> those numbers mean anything?
[19:25:08] <_del> it is the server
[19:25:14] <_del> frigg is from freenode
[19:25:43] <_del> * [frigg] (~frigg@freenode/utility-bot/frigg): freenode utility bot, replaces freenode-connect
[19:25:59] <jagsph_> _del: it scans for bots and 7thsphere and other war scripts
[19:26:06] <jagsph_> go download 7thsphere i bet u get klined.
[19:26:17] <_del> on the other hand, jagsph_ likes to version me for no reason
[19:26:34] <_del> what is your reason?
[19:26:53] <jagsph_> im testing out synk4,c on my Z2
[19:27:13] <_del> u are on your z2 right now?
[19:27:25] <jagsph_> well its in my other hand
[19:27:30] <_del> lol
[19:27:46] <jagsph_> i made a big mistake in my power-management script
[19:27:46] <_del> god i am so pissed what should i do with that phone
[19:28:02] <_del> sell the parts from it i guess
[19:28:04] <jagsph_> trade it for a z2
[19:28:27] <jagsph_> rkdavis might trade u
[19:28:41] <rkdavis> jagsph_: yup my phone number
[19:29:13] <jagsph_> rkdavis: i just saw it posted in a place visible to everyone.
[19:29:43] <rkdavis> yup whois
[19:29:52] <rkdavis> as is my address
[19:29:59] <jagsph_> why would you do show that?
[19:30:16] <rkdavis> because i don't care
[19:30:29] <jagsph_> i got ridiculous amounts of calls when my number was put in registrar information
[19:30:37] <jagsph_> and junk mail.
[19:31:06] <rkdavis> well i have all numbers blocked on the phone except wife, somn and family
[19:31:54] <rkdavis> and i'm too cheap to pay for privacy guards
[19:32:49] <jagsph_> you can put in any info you want
[19:33:28] <rkdavis> yoy can but i don;t care enough to bother and that's illegal anyway :)
[19:52:51] <Adnyxo> rkdavis, i need some sd card help
[19:53:01] <Adnyxo> i got the newest image copied, and the terminal is finished
[19:53:12] <Adnyxo> but now the gui doesnt want to unmount the disk
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[19:54:13] <rkdavis> try by hand then
[19:54:41] <rkdavis> umount /mnt/whatever the disk partition is called
[19:54:50] <rkdavis> for all partitions
[19:54:57] <Adnyxo> umount /dev/sdc1
[19:54:58] <Adnyxo> umount: /media/d388a688-59d6-43e3-ac65-4fd9960bbb06: device is busy.
[19:54:58] <Adnyxo> (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[19:54:58] <Adnyxo> the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[19:55:08] <Adnyxo> ive closed everything but xchat and the terminal
[19:55:56] <rkdavis> well close the terminal too then maybe you are in a dir on it
[19:56:29] <Adnyxo> okay
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[20:09:16] <Adnyxo> thanks rkdavis, one of my terminal tabs probably was using the device
[20:09:20] <Adnyxo> its working now
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[20:41:57] <Adnyxo> jagsph_ i finally prepared the micro sd without error, now ive got a blinking cursor on my zipit. is this the filesystem check?
[20:49:31] <Adnyxo> just a black screen and a curosr
[20:50:24] <Aelius> if it keeps blinking, then something is wrong
[20:50:32] <Aelius> but... wait for 2 minutes
[20:53:33] <Aelius> Adnyxo; explain what you did to make the partitions
[20:54:10] <Adnyxo> gparted
[20:54:34] <Adnyxo> one ext3, one swap
[20:56:00] <Aelius> I dont think gparted actually makes the file systems
[20:56:08] <Aelius> I tried gparted too, but it failed
[20:57:02] <Aelius> if you already have your partition sizes with gparted, try using mkfs.ext3 and mkswap on the corresponding partitions
[20:57:31] <Aelius> then make sure after extracting the userland to partition1, you unmount before ejecting
[20:57:34] <Adnyxo> okay
[20:57:35] <Aelius> Adnyxo;
[20:57:36] <Aelius> k
[20:57:44] <Adnyxo> will that delete the files
[20:57:56] <Aelius> I think s
[20:59:02] <Adnyxo> okay i guess ill see
[20:59:33] <Aelius> jagsph_; havent yet installed the new userland, but I love the screenshot. nice background and taskbar
[20:59:50] <Aelius> gotta install mkfs.ext3 in freebsd
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[21:30:16] <Adnyxo> yay, its working after a whole day of fail
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[21:30:28] <Adnyxo> guess its time go go to bed, gnite everyone
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[23:01:48] <mozz-zipit> rkdavis: you know if anyone has connected any external hardware to the zipit yet? like maybe a mouse?
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[23:04:41] <rkdavis> mozz-zipit: only what you see on the websites and g1powermac was working on a breakoutbox thingy
[23:04:47] <rkdavis> but no mouse or anything
[23:05:02] <rkdavis> but if you have the serial mod you could probably use a serial mouse
[23:05:30] <rkdavis> gotta test something so will be back in 10
[23:05:39] <mozz-zipit> thats kinda what i was thinking
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[23:35:10] <rkdavis> jagsph_: ok trying you stuff on my ubooted zipit
[23:35:35] <rkdavis> forgot lots of stuff though and got no mouse atm
[23:36:29] <rkdavis> what's the keys to get a menu?
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[23:53:16] <ogmious09> jagsph_: Hey you there jerky?
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