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[00:18:27] <genericpoweruse1> hey, big thanks to you guys, especially Aliosa27--my zipit is running great again! (posted from zipit!)
[00:20:00] <genericpoweruse1> *streams a movie from Tversity onto my zipit* thanks again, ttyl
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[10:01:10] <RayHaque> Man ... trying to add shared library support to the Z2 Shell. Getting nowhere fast.,
[10:01:32] <aliosa27> the beauty of shared libs
[10:01:42] <rkdavis> RayHaque: it's supposed to be easy according to gpsfan :)
[10:02:35] <RayHaque> Well, I figured a good start was to bring over the uClibc utils from a buildroot install.
[10:02:46] <RayHaque> But they were dynamic-built. :-/
[10:03:12] <RayHaque> So I rebuilt them static and now they work! But ... I am still getting "not found" errors from a binary using static libs.
[10:03:25] <RayHaque> And when I do an ldd on it, it seems that I have provided everything it needs.
[10:03:30] <rkdavis> hmmm i would assume you'd need to statically build ldconfig (if it's possible) and the ld so thingy
[10:03:45] <RayHaque> I have a feeling that the libs it's depending on have depends' of their own. I'm not sure how I hunt them down? :-/
[10:04:16] <rkdavis> there was a good article on hijacking ldd and shared libs recently on one of the security sites
[10:04:16] <RayHaque> Oh yeah, there are really only a few tools. There's ldd, ldconfig, and readelf (for fun). I have them all ported, and they all work.
[10:04:27] <rkdavis> let me see if i can find it as it might give some pointers
[10:04:48] <RayHaque> It doesn't appear that I have an ld-cache though? I dont think I should need one.
[10:05:11] <RayHaque> But I can do an ldconfig -v and it shows the libs I have ported over. Thats a good start.
[10:05:31] <rkdavis> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/ldd-arbitrary-code-execution/
[10:05:37] <rkdavis> that might give some clues
[10:07:14] <rkdavis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-mobile-81/help.....embedded-linux-uclibc-unable-to-run-shared-executables.-712394/ actually this might be better
[10:24:09] <RayHaque> Well, strace might be what I needed.
[10:24:28] <RayHaque> These problems may be "socket" related.
[10:24:32] <RayHaque> bind(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/mnt/sd0/home/.cmus/socket"...}, 112) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
[10:24:53] <RayHaque> http://www.oddree.com/zipit/strace (if anyone else should want to play with it for the Z2 Shell)
[10:28:46] <RayHaque> Ah yes ... interesting. It *almost runs* if I use ./cmus --listen 8080
[10:29:25] <RayHaque> This gives me some hope in getting other stuff running. I may just go back to "moc" and see if that works.
[10:29:41] <rkdavis> :)
[10:49:37] <aliosa27> Ray. dcc my your binary...I have a quick debugging moment
[10:51:50] <RayHaque> Oh snap! I hope I didnt miss it by doing real work ... :-)
[10:52:12] <RayHaque> Problem is, I have this crap spread all over the place.
[10:55:29] <RayHaque> aliosa27: http://www.oddree.com/zipit/cmus-dynamic.tgz
[10:56:15] <RayHaque> Thats the binary, and the libs should go into (or be linked to) /usr/local/lib/cmus/ip and /usr/local/lib/cmus/op
[10:58:46] <RayHaque> aliosa27: And here are the shared libs that it should be looking for: http://www.oddree.com/zipit/z2-libs-r1.zip
[10:59:07] <RayHaque> The cmus/ip and cmus/op dirs are actually just plugin files that cmus uses.
[11:09:25] <RayHaque> I think this is a case of 'cogito ergo sum'.
[11:10:06] <RayHaque> It's attempting to pull basic networking tricks to identify itself and it's failing on gethostbyname because there isn't even a /etc/hosts file to refer to.
[11:11:27] <RayHaque> Oh! I was right ... and I was doing it wrong.
[11:11:41] <RayHaque> ./cmus --listen 127.0.0.1:8080
[11:11:55] <rkdavis> :)
[11:16:37] <RayHaque> Yeah ... this is working now.
[11:18:11] <RayHaque> Allll right. This is good news.
[11:18:49] <RayHaque> I just played a bunch of alsa test files.
[11:19:13] <RayHaque> Sounds like rkdavis's spouse during intercourse ("Right! Left! Center! Left-Center!").
[11:19:16] <RayHaque> LAWLZ
[11:21:30] <rkdavis> heh
[11:26:35] <Mcavity> laughs
[11:37:27] <rkdavis> you are just jealous because your gf "just says center center center"
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[11:48:13] <flyback> hey marex :)
[11:59:11] <marex> flyback, hello, do you need anything ?
[11:59:55] <flyback> no just saying hi, it's nice to have a genius in the channel :)
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[12:13:43] <absamide_> Ray, are you able to start the Zipit standard application in a Screen window the way you are able to start up the other applications?
[12:27:52] <rkdavis> absamide_: it won't work (probably) because the first part of the app grabs the keyboard
[12:29:06] <rkdavis> Zcovery does some memory allocs and grabs the keyboard and pwr stuff and the app gets the keys from whatever Zcovery does not the kernel
[12:46:34] <absamide_> Oh well. Wasn't sure if we could have that working in the background and increase the usage with that screen application.
[13:04:52] <RayHaque> absamide_: I tried it, but that app takes over.
[13:05:08] <RayHaque> You end up with a cursor in the background and a bunch of failures.
[13:05:15] <RayHaque> BRB! Reboot time.
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[13:10:40] <absamide_> Thanks for checking that Ray. Sadly it seems that without some intervention or information from the Zipit people themselves we are stuck with an either or option. Maybe they will be kind enough to open some of the information and files for the Z2 if they ever release a Z3 or something.
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[13:24:16] <RayHaque> Good gravy. Why doesn't Ubuntu let you choose your software source (mirror) during a dist-upgrade?
[13:24:29] <RayHaque> I have a 10MB pipe, and I am downloading at 26k. :-/
[13:24:30] <RayHaque> WTF!
[13:35:35] <muriani> bad server.
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[15:15:41] <RayHaque> Hrm.
[15:15:43] <RayHaque> connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/mnt/sd0/home/.moc/socket2"...}, 28) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[15:20:06] <RayHaque> Oh boy. Lost my mouse. :-) I'm sure I will get it back when these updates are done.
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[16:13:06] <RayHaque> Well, I survived the upgrade.
[16:15:21] <RayHaque> And I must say that Ubuntu Karmic Koala is mighty fancy looking.
[16:15:53] <RayHaque> And I am happy to be running a "supported" kernel now. I had been running a mashed up 2.6.30 for a couple months now to dodge issues with large files on ext4
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[16:24:54] <sgreen> I did a 8.04 to 9.10 the other night, on my tv computer, and it worked great. Karmic Xubuntu blows though.
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[17:00:33] <RayHaque> sgreen: Uh oh ... now you tell me.
[17:00:50] <RayHaque> sgreen: I have not had *any problems* with it ... for the hour that it's been installed. :-D
[17:02:30] <RayHaque> I hear that whistle blowing ... be back later.
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[17:09:26] <sgreen> I just had some problems making it seem set the resolution properly via the gui. Xorg would have fixed that, but the gf is not going to be told to do it that way when she wants to change something
[17:09:44] <sgreen> I am hoping lubuntu comes along, xfce is nearly as bloated as gnome
[17:13:11] <sgreen> RayHaque:that and the ffmpeg aac 9.10 thing, was almost enough to get me to find something else for the tv pc
[17:27:41] <muriani> I like xfce
[17:27:59] <muriani> but yeah, it's getting to the level of other major DEs
[17:28:18] <muriani> I'm a kubuntu man currently, but lxde's looking nice.
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[17:58:30] <sirloin> hi
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[18:53:14] <Ray_Haque> Hello folks.
[18:53:31] <Mcavity> hi
[18:54:33] <Ray_Haque> So I managed to get mocp to work with linked libraries ... on a stock Z2 Shell!
[18:54:58] <Ray_Haque> But ... it fails to bind and crashes out with network errors now.
[19:08:18] <Mcavity> progress?
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[19:20:26] <Ray_Haque> It looks like cmus uses a "socket file" OR TCP/IP sockets. But moc only does socket files.
[19:20:40] <Ray_Haque> And something is missing with the Z2 Shell which would otherwise support sock files.
[19:20:44] * Ray_Haque shrugs.
[19:20:54] <Mcavity> fun
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[20:34:00] * flyback would seriously like to vent almost 36 yrs of bullshit on one of the writers of this CANCEROUS fake antivirus, spyware, etc bullshit
[20:34:19] <sgreen> Flyback: try running an OS for grownups
[20:37:11] <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK"
[20:37:52] <sgreen> flyback: does it play hockey? Is it as crappy at it as the Maple Leafs?
[20:38:03] * flyback notifes everyone that the pc in question is *NOT* one of his so stop canucking telling him to install linux, he already did yrs ago YOU STUPID CANUCKS
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[20:41:05] * sgreen says he is not a damn ice-back
[20:41:19] <flyback> eh-hole
[21:10:14] * flyback bbl
[21:31:49] * flyback :1 virus:0........YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!
[21:31:59] <Mcavity> lol
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[22:30:29] * flyback wow the dude that wrote and sang "CARS" is an aspie like me
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