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[08:31:35] <RayHaque> Morning all.
[08:32:50] <Mcavity> hey
[09:00:50] <SDuensin> Greetings.
[09:11:49] <rkdavis> morning RayHaque
[09:12:31] <rkdavis> morning all
[09:16:12] <RayHaque> Mkaing my kernel again, in a clean scratchbox environment.
[09:16:26] <RayHaque> Although I doubt it will help with the alsa-driver build.
[09:21:37] <SDuensin> So you guys got Chromium on it yet? I mean, it's been 24 hours now. :-P
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[09:25:41] <rkdavis> ok el bricko'ed 1 zipit :)
[09:25:59] <SDuensin> Ack!
[09:26:04] <rkdavis> so that makes two bricked in the last 14 hours
[09:26:27] <Mcavity> umm thats not good
[09:26:36] <Mcavity> you have any spares?
[09:27:04] <rkdavis> down to my last one but that's u-booted so i'll have to downgrade
[09:29:44] <RayHaque> Yikes.
[09:30:35] <rkdavis> yup not a biggy but damn inconveiniant
[09:30:41] <rkdavis> as i'm working on something
[09:30:55] <rkdavis> and really needed to be able to add some stuff to the kernel and initramfs
[09:31:04] <Mcavity> gona have to figure out that serial mod soon
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[09:35:56] <RayHaque> Does anyone know what the hell this means? checking for msecs_to_jiffies... no
[09:36:19] <RayHaque> I dont know what an msec or a jiffie is. But it's keeping me from doing anything with ALSA drivers.
[09:36:36] <Mcavity> maybe gps will show up
[09:36:39] <absamide_> I would guess they are units of measure for time.
[09:36:46] <RayHaque> When building I get this: error: static declaration of 'jiffies_to_msecs' follows non-static declaration
[09:37:08] <RayHaque> I think it might be something that my kernel doesn't support or include. And it's screwing me.
[09:37:28] <Mcavity> In computing, a jiffy is the duration of one tick of the system timer interrupt. It is not an absolute time interval unit, since its duration depends on the clock interrupt frequency of the particular hardware platform.
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[09:37:50] <Mcavity> just talking about you GPSFan
[09:37:52] <Mcavity> heh
[09:37:56] <RayHaque> Oh hey, I wonder if he knows? :-)
[09:38:07] * RayHaque tugs at GPSFan's cape.
[09:38:16] <RayHaque> GPSFan: Can I bother you for another moment?
[09:38:32] * GPSFan looks for an exit
[09:38:41] <GPSFan> RayHaque: sure...
[09:38:43] * absamide_ points that way.
[09:38:44] * RayHaque locks all the doors, and bars them with wood.
[09:39:08] * GPSFan pulls out the plasma cutter
[09:39:11] <RayHaque> GPSFan: When you built your alsa-driver back in the day - did you have issues with msecs/jiffies errors?
[09:39:50] <GPSFan> you assume I haven't sacrificed'd those brain cells... IIRC no.
[09:39:59] <RayHaque> :-)
[09:40:17] <RayHaque> GPSFan: Did you use scratchbox to build those modules?
[09:43:33] <GPSFan> I used buildroot to build the cross tools and to build userland. I build the kernel & modules outside buildroot, but using its cross compilers.
[09:43:34] <RayHaque> I am thinking that maybe my kernel build is missing something. But the only jiffie related thing I can find is "Packet scheduler clock source (<choice> [=n])" for the net/sched under networking. Seems unrelated.
[09:45:37] <RayHaque> Hrm.
[09:46:04] <rkdavis> RayHaque: i'm suspicious of building the kernel in scratchbox now, it all looked fine but there is definatly a size difference although it did look to be only padding, there might be something else that is flucked up too though
[09:46:32] <RayHaque> :-o
[09:46:42] <RayHaque> I have no buildroot skills.
[09:48:25] <GPSFan> buildroot is not that esay to use. but then again neither is OE
[09:49:07] <rkdavis> yup they'll both drive you nuts within a very short space of time
[09:49:31] <GPSFan> I've been using buildroot for a long time, I usually use an old "tried & true" version first and then move on to a recent version if it is neccessary.
[09:52:32] * RayHaque sighs.
[09:52:45] <RayHaque> I guess I will start reading up on it.
[09:52:51] * RayHaque beats his head against the wall.
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[09:54:40] <rkdavis> i think i'll take a break and watch a downloaded dr. who episode instead of destroying anythingelse :)
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[10:00:01] <RayHaque> Hrm ... for target architecture with buildroot - I am assuming I want "generic arm
[10:00:04] <RayHaque> "?
[10:00:40] <GPSFan> x-scale
[10:01:28] <RayHaque> Thanks! :-)
[10:02:33] <GPSFan> RayHaque: look at the .config and alsa-libs.mk and alsa-utils.mk files I included with the alsa stuff I posted on the yahoo group almost a year ago
[10:03:43] <RayHaque> Yeah, I was trying to use thos in my scratchbox build.
[10:03:52] <RayHaque> The kernel built just fine with your .config file.
[10:04:03] <RayHaque> I have to admit ... I have no idea what .mk files are for? :-)
[10:05:04] <GPSFan> they are for buildroot's use to make the 1.018 version of alsa
[10:05:23] <GPSFan> that is the builkdroot .config as well
[10:06:10] <RayHaque> Oh! Okay. So I do a make menuconfig with buildroot - and load that .config file?
[10:06:46] <GPSFan> yes
[10:07:26] <GPSFan> and the .mk files go somewhere in the buildroot tree (cant remember off hand where but it's pretty obvious)
[10:09:21] <RayHaque> zipitdev@zipitdev:~/buildroot$ find ./ -name alsa-lib
[10:09:21] <RayHaque> ./package/multimedia/alsa-lib
[10:09:29] <GPSFan> remember that is a specific svn version of buildroot and it will build uClibc dynamic libs. try that out and see if you can get it to work, then go back and try to staticify it
[10:13:33] <RayHaque> Gotcha! the .mk files are in place.
[10:13:52] <RayHaque> Now I just need to figure out what I am doing with the rest of this buildroot configuration.
[10:15:09] <RayHaque> Seems odd that I have to set the target arch when I loaded your .config file?
[10:18:41] <RayHaque> Okay ... in Toolchain I changed the kernel to 2.6.21.1. I assume I wanted to do that? :-)
[10:19:16] <GPSFan> I don't build the kernel in buildroot. no guarantees that it will work.
[10:20:09] <RayHaque> Oh, okay. You make the tools in this. And then the kernel using those tools. I see.
[10:23:21] <RayHaque> But wait, I threw alsa configs' in there.
[10:23:26] <GPSFan> yep, you can build the kernel in there too, but I never do, so I don't know what landmines are lieing about.
[10:23:45] <RayHaque> So this is going to attempt to build alsa without building a kernel?
[10:23:55] <RayHaque> Using just headers maybe?
[10:24:14] <GPSFan> buildroot will build the tools and the userland programs, but you don't have to build them all.
[10:24:47] <GPSFan> yes, the headers for your kernel version are important.
[10:25:05] <GPSFan> bbl
[10:25:27] <RayHaque> Okay. Thanks for your help on this, BTW.
[10:59:56] <absamide_> Guessing that Aliosa27 got busy and that we didn't drive him off?
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[11:24:04] <RayHaque> I have sent several emails to the directfb-users list and the maintiner of the list and have seen nothing. The emails are blackholed, and no response from the list maintiner.
[11:24:20] <RayHaque> So this morning I signed up under my work email account and it all went right out to the list.
[11:24:29] <RayHaque> They must snub gmail accounts or something.
[11:43:02] <RayHaque> Open Command Prompt. Enter this. start /min "player.exe" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\oobe\images\title.wma" ... profit.
[11:46:10] <drewid> NO!!! not the out of box "experience" - cold shivers - must stop
[11:48:36] <RayHaque> Well ... my buildroot make finally finished.
[11:48:49] <RayHaque> drewid: You know you like that song.
[11:49:02] <drewid> I've heard it for 8 yrs now
[11:49:09] <RayHaque> drewid: Expecially at about 5 minutes in when you get some monk chanting.
[11:51:17] <drewid> ha - just created a batch file on a coworker
[11:51:27] <drewid> 's startup folder launching that at boot
[11:51:37] <RayHaque> :-D Sheer evil.
[11:51:58] <drewid> that's why they keep taking the admin privs away from me - sheer frustration
[11:54:13] <rkdavis> ugh can't get kexec working :(
[11:56:12] <RayHaque> rkdavis: Are you a buildroot user?
[11:57:42] <rkdavis> sometimes
[11:57:57] <RayHaque> Well then I have a stupid question for you.
[11:58:06] <RayHaque> What the hell do I *do* with it?
[11:58:12] <rkdavis> heh
[11:58:16] <RayHaque> I configured it, and I make'd it.
[11:58:23] <rkdavis> packages or selfbuilt stuff?
[11:58:27] <RayHaque> Now I have it. So what. Its just directories of stuff.
[11:58:34] <rkdavis> yup
[11:58:50] <RayHaque> There is no "make install"?
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[11:59:11] <rkdavis> basically you just knock up an .mk file and add it to the config file -- i forget where exactly then bring up the menu and add your stuff to it
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[11:59:38] <RayHaque> Okay, well I injected Ken's stuff in there.
[11:59:44] <rkdavis> look at one of the existing packages and it will give an example of how to do that
[11:59:49] <RayHaque> Before I ran the make. So I guess I built something?
[12:00:04] <rkdavis> yup anyone know anything about kexec?
[12:00:27] * RayHaque shakes his head.
[12:01:51] <RayHaque> Aw snap. alsa was not selected as a package.
[12:02:00] * RayHaque smirks.
[12:02:01] <rkdavis> :)
[12:02:18] <rkdavis> ok which one of you has stolen my safetypin?
[12:05:14] <RayHaque> Oh ... it wasn't me.
[12:05:21] <RayHaque> Here, come sit down in this comfy chair.
[12:05:28] <RayHaque> It has nothing to do with your missing pin.
[12:05:49] <RayHaque> Once you sit down and relax for a while, I am sure you will remember where you left it.
[12:05:53] * RayHaque pats the chair.
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[12:10:46] <RayHaque> Well, buildroot and creating the alsa-libs. So far, so good. Just took a tiny path change in Ken's old .mk files.
[12:16:25] <RayHaque> Okay ... alsa-libs are go. Now onto alsa-utils. And if all that works ... I will just have to pass "-static" to the build process.
[12:17:55] <RayHaque> aaaand - crash. I knew it wouldn't be that easy.
[12:18:21] <RayHaque> I think I need to make clean and make again. Since I had to turn on large filesystem support after everything else was built (to satisfy alsa-utils).
[12:18:46] <RayHaque> There goes another couple hours of my life.
[12:19:10] <RayHaque> When are wel going to built that supercomputer for us all to share for our endless building processes?
[12:19:22] <RayHaque> I am putting the first $5 into the jar right now.
[12:21:09] <Mcavity> hunter recomeded ps3s
[12:21:16] <Mcavity> or someone didi
[12:21:20] <t7g_> ehhhh
[12:21:34] <Mcavity> find ones on craigslist with bad blu-ray drives
[12:24:37] <t7g_> a long time ago I made a gentoo install for wii, and in the gentoo spirit I compiled everything on the machine but I had the help of DistCC on this pc, and it wasn't _that_ bad
[12:25:14] <t7g_> wii has about 68mb memory, xulrunner/webkit-gtk took forever to just link
[12:42:38] <absamide_> Are you able to upgrade the memory in a PS3 or are they all soldered in?
[12:44:38] <Mcavity> that i dont know
[12:46:34] <Mcavity> quich search seems like a no
[12:46:39] <Mcavity> quick
[12:47:50] <Mcavity> slep time for me. cant keep eyes focused
[13:09:01] <RayHaque> Fark!!! alsa-utils requires large file support. So I added that. Now busybox wont build because "uClibc was built without large file support".
[13:12:03] <RayHaque> Well let's see what happens if I go and flip the bit in the .config file for uClibc!
[13:31:29] <RayHaque> Okay ... uClibc won't rebuild. I am starting over.
[13:32:58] <rkdavis> RayHaque: ah you have discovered one of the fun bits of buildroot -- long chains of things that need to be rebuilt for anything new and 9 times out of 10 they break :)
[13:35:03] <rkdavis> RayHaque: what was the lgraphic links command line ? links -g --dfb:layer-rotate=3 [url] ?
[13:35:52] <RayHaque> --dfb:layer-rotate=90
[13:36:10] <RayHaque> If you have my 202 BETA, check the links2 file.
[13:36:26] <rkdavis> nm found it
[13:36:26] <RayHaque> links2 is a shell script with links <arguments>
[13:36:34] <rkdavis> oh you told me anyway
[13:36:59] <rkdavis> you need to turn off the mouse cursor in links :)
[13:38:03] <RayHaque> Yeah, that option is --dfb:no-cursor
[13:39:31] <rkdavis> :)
[13:40:49] <rkdavis> still trying to find a way to use the keyboard to move the mouse cursor in directfb -- should be something real simple -- going to be a doh! moment
[13:42:25] <RayHaque> Yeah, that would be fun.
[13:42:43] <RayHaque> I would just be happy with a functional keyboard!
[13:43:49] <rkdavis> :) well i'll have to dig into directfb then -- i just compiled evdev and uinput modules and they at least insmod but who knows if they are working and they are no help anyway -- gpio-keys too but who knows what you do with that
[13:46:24] <rkdavis> hmmmm
[13:46:59] <rkdavis> weird links google.com works links -g google.com doesn't
[13:47:49] <rkdavis> told you it's a doh!
[13:48:59] <rkdavis> put the url in the wrong place :)
[14:01:14] <RayHaque> If this all works - I can repost Ken's .mk files, along with my .config file - and this could be reproduced.
[14:11:14] <rkdavis> :)
[14:11:24] <rkdavis> this is the also stuff?
[14:11:28] <rkdavis> alsa even
[14:13:14] <RayHaque> Yep.
[14:13:44] <RayHaque> I'm looking forward to the prospect of having some nice mp3 players running on this.
[14:13:55] <rkdavis> i'm looking at the keymap stuff atm -- directfb says it has 2(3) methods of dealing with keyboard(mouse)
[14:15:03] <rkdavis> one uses the kernel translation table
[14:16:11] <RayHaque> Well, here is the thing. They probably all succeed in reading the keyboard.
[14:16:30] <RayHaque> The trouble is ... the keyboard is whack without a keymap.
[14:17:02] <RayHaque> And if I had any skill whatsoever, I would be inserting that LoadKeys function somewhere.
[14:17:14] <RayHaque> But alas - I am skill-less as a C developer.
[14:17:46] <RayHaque> For that matter, if you pick apart links you will find that it also has key definitions in kbd.c
[14:18:08] <RayHaque> But ... same thing applies there. I don't know what I'm doing when I get to fooling around in there.
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[14:33:14] * RayHaque sighs.
[14:33:34] <RayHaque> Waiting for buildroot to fail or finish requires more patience than I have.
[14:33:34] <rkdavis> warum?
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[14:34:03] <rkdavis> well that's coz you weren't brought up right :) patience is a virtue
[14:34:17] <RayHaque> I keep trying to think of ways I can make this run faster. Like maybe create a new virtual machine on our VM server.
[14:34:56] <RayHaque> I have a fux0red Win32 box in there I need to destroy while I am thinking about it.
[14:36:57] <rkdavis> :)
[14:50:47] <drewid> just checked out virtualization in the cloud via Amazon's EC2 and it looks like it's $.68/hour of compute time for Linux/Unix instances
[14:52:44] <drewid> They've got a debian base image (AMI) all ready to go - would just have to go through and add the appropriate dev/sources/etc
[14:53:00] <RayHaque> ORLY?
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[14:53:30] <RayHaque> I wish that our "network engineer" would do some engineering once in a while.
[14:53:36] <drewid> I would like to see a demo machine first to see what compile times etc would be
[14:53:39] <RayHaque> Every download I start throttles down to 5.0k.
[14:54:00] <drewid> 5k? ouch
[14:54:44] <rkdavis> hmm weird the links won't rotate now -- wonder what i did to it
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[14:55:59] <RayHaque> Yeah. And they are starting upwards of 1MB.
[14:56:00] <RayHaque> :/-
[14:56:38] <RayHaque> rkdavis: Do you have a /etc/directfbrc file? If so, I think that trumps your arguments in terminal.
[14:56:45] <rkdavis> nope
[14:57:39] <RayHaque> Hrm. I never had any trouble rotating. Just rotating incorrectly. :-)
[14:57:52] <rkdavis> weird
[15:12:34] <rkdavis> RayHaque: how big is your directfb+links dirs in sb?
[15:14:10] <RayHaque> Uh ... heck I don't know.
[15:14:25] <rkdavis> and which directfb did you use? 1.?
[15:14:37] <RayHaque> I can't really look at the moment, because I am working off of a branched snapshot on that virtualbox.
[15:14:43] <rkdavis> ok
[15:14:44] <RayHaque> I used 1.4. The latest.
[15:14:55] <rkdavis> ok
[15:15:39] <rkdavis> i'm looking at things and the ctrl key is working well but it is almost like the alt is working like a pc keyboard alt key
[15:15:58] <rkdavis> and there are some extras that might help get it sussed
[15:16:13] <rkdavis> so want to build dfb and links myself
[15:16:38] <RayHaque> rkdavis: That's the keymapping problem. The keyboard is working as it would, if you didnt have a keymap loaded.
[15:16:55] <RayHaque> ALT+Q doesn't mean "1" to links.
[15:17:10] <rkdavis> yup and looks like either the kernelmap needs changing or a loadkeys in links
[15:17:20] <RayHaque> Yes!
[15:17:33] <RayHaque> Thats what I'm trying to get help doing from the directfb folks.
[15:17:48] <RayHaque> They actually have a function you can call from within the driver to "LoadKeys".
[15:18:12] <RayHaque> But there is absolutely no further documentation on it. Other than it exists. I need a code sample or at least some guidance.
[15:18:34] <rkdavis> well from what i can see so far a simple call (famous last words) should di it immediatly after dfb is init'ed in links
[15:19:09] <RayHaque> If you can get it working, that would be excellent. You should be able to point the same keymap that the shell is using in /mnt/sd0.
[15:19:25] <RayHaque> Also ... how do you tell buildroot to *rebuild* a package?
[15:19:26] <RayHaque> :-/
[15:20:06] <RayHaque> Oh wait - I got it: http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html#rebuilding_packages
[15:21:07] <rkdavis> http://www.directfb.org/docs/DirectFB_Reference_1_3/IDirectFBInputDevice_LoadKeymap.html
[15:21:24] <RayHaque> Thats it all right.
[15:21:32] <RayHaque> If you can figure out how to use it, you are one up on me. :-)
[15:24:34] <RayHaque> "Removing a package is currently unsupported by Buildroot without rebuilding from scratch. This is because Buildroot doesn't keep track of which package installs what files in the output/staging and output/target directories." - WHAT?!?!?
[15:31:50] <RayHaque> Okay, I can just cd to the dir and "make" again.
[15:31:57] <RayHaque> It's all good there.
[15:32:15] <RayHaque> Although ... buildroot made "SYSV" ARM binaries.
[15:33:56] <rkdavis> RayHaque: look in dfbinput.c
[15:35:08] <rkdavis> it seems to have the basics covered for getting/setting the keymap
[15:35:29] <RayHaque> Well, yes and no. I think I remember what you are looking at.
[15:35:35] <RayHaque> It explains what's in a keymap file.
[15:35:46] <rkdavis> nope it explains how to call
[15:35:52] <RayHaque> But where do you insert that function, and what does the code look like?
[15:36:23] <rkdavis> well there are two ways it could work
[15:36:27] <rkdavis> 1 is persisteant
[15:36:32] <rkdavis> and 2 is per app
[15:37:27] <RayHaque> Okay ... why are all my binaries in "SYSV" format?
[15:37:40] <RayHaque> This is not cool. It makes me think I may have wasted my entire day on this.
[15:37:48] <rkdavis> but the actual call is /documented/ as it does confirm that they are trying to be funny and * thiz is actually self so it's just a straight call it's just where it persists per driver or is per app
[15:38:16] * RayHaque nods to rkdavis.
[15:38:27] <RayHaque> rkdavis: Still doesn't help me. I have read all that.
[15:38:49] <RayHaque> Unless I see some code examples, I have no idea how to make use of that function.
[15:38:49] <rkdavis> you just compiled directfb using CFLAGS="-static" ./configure; make; make install ?
[15:39:22] <rkdavis> RayHaque: well the example in dfbinput.c is pretty clear, it's just where you need to do it just once or in the app
[15:39:29] <rkdavis> so easiest thing to do is to try it
[15:39:33] <RayHaque> For directfb - ./configure --enable-static --enable-fbdev --enable-jpeg --enable-zlib --enable-png --enable-gif --with-gfxdrivers=neomagic --with-inputdrivers=keyboard
[15:39:35] <rkdavis> and see if it sticks
[15:39:48] <rkdavis> neomagic?
[15:40:00] * RayHaque shrugs.
[15:40:05] <RayHaque> I had to pick something. That one worked.
[15:40:09] <rkdavis> ok
[15:40:27] <RayHaque> I tried some of the others, and they wouldn't compile cleanly.
[15:40:39] <rkdavis> ok lets give it a whirl
[15:40:53] <rkdavis> and for links?
[15:41:25] <RayHaque> For links: ./configure --enable-graphics --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl/ --without-x --without-libtiff
[15:41:33] <RayHaque> Also ...
[15:41:44] <rkdavis> ugh no libz
[15:41:56] <RayHaque> Make sure before you build links that you edit directfb.c and define your x and y sizes.
[15:42:05] <rkdavis> ok so i need libz first too
[15:42:13] <RayHaque> yeah man, there is a stack of dependencies for this stuff.
[15:42:19] <RayHaque> You want my notes again?
[15:43:03] <RayHaque> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m157ba80f
[15:43:18] <rkdavis> i'll grab them again
[15:43:37] <RayHaque> Am I supposed to be building EABI or OBI?
[15:43:51] <rkdavis> stock kernel and userspace is oabi
[15:44:12] <RayHaque> Thought so.
[15:44:15] <RayHaque> Thats my problem.
[15:44:21] <RayHaque> I need to start over. Again.
[15:44:24] <RayHaque> FML.
[15:44:27] <rkdavis> cd ..
[15:44:35] <rkdavis> oopsy
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[15:52:25] <RayHaque> My next buildroot is going on a different box!!
[15:52:32] <rkdavis> :)
[15:52:38] * RayHaque spits on his virtual machine.
[15:52:59] <rkdavis> don't do that it might start a fire or at least a steam bath
[15:53:03] <RayHaque> I am configuring the host as a dual wielding CPU horse, with 4GB of RAM.
[15:53:19] <RayHaque> That oughtta speed things along.
[15:59:20] <RayHaque> If I can get this damn box up before I walk out the door at the office that would be good. Then I can just remotely connect to it from home.
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[16:21:14] <rkdavis> RayHaque: so just stay at work until you do have it done then :)
[16:22:42] <RayHaque> Hah!
[16:22:54] <RayHaque> I am on call this weekend. So let's hope that doesnt become a reality.
[16:23:01] <RayHaque> My wife would kill me.
[16:24:52] <netbook> you a doctor?
[16:26:59] <rkdavis> RayHaque: drop yur phone and/or pager, and sever the internet other than to the vm then let them try to get you
[16:27:05] <rkdavis> cd tools
[16:27:08] <rkdavis> oopsy
[16:27:54] <RayHaque> netbook: Nope, I am a network administrator ... that has to support doctors.
[16:28:02] <RayHaque> netbook: I work for a hospital.
[16:29:10] <rkdavis> RayHaque: you only do it for the cheap surgery don't you? :)
[16:29:16] <rkdavis> cd ..
[16:29:19] <rkdavis> ugh
[16:29:23] <rkdavis> bloody focus
[16:29:53] <netbook> RayHaque, do they need Exchange Server running to do surgery ;P
[16:30:07] <netbook> but yea that kind of sucks... thought you probably get paid handsomely
[16:31:07] <netbook> *though
[16:31:32] <RayHaque> Not really. We get a "bonus" for having to get woken up at 2:00AM to reset passwords.
[16:31:40] <RayHaque> But it's not much.
[16:31:50] <RayHaque> And I would pay that much to not be woken up! :-)
[16:37:56] <RayHaque> Oh man ... this VM I built on our VM server is BOSS.
[16:38:08] <RayHaque> My next buildroot make should be much, much faster.
[16:38:36] <RayHaque> This is what I should be doing my scratchbox dev's on.
[16:59:07] <RayHaque> I hear that whistle blowin' folks! See you all later.
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[17:47:19] <RayHaque> Blah. Just got alsamixer copied over from my buildroot install. Still fails.
[18:04:45] <rkdavis> :(
[18:04:59] <rkdavis> missing the device node?
[18:05:28] <RayHaque> Man ... I dont know what I am missing.
[18:05:43] <RayHaque> But alsamixer cant talk to the hardware.
[18:05:44] <rkdavis> error message or just dies?
[18:05:59] <RayHaque> It doesnt die, it just gives what looks like unresolved symbols.
[18:06:14] <RayHaque> I think I need to build the modules also. Instead of trying to use GPSFans.
[18:06:22] <RayHaque> But thats giong to be a lot more building.
[18:06:25] <rkdavis> yup
[18:06:42] <rkdavis> i seem to have modules that seem to have built ok in sb
[18:07:08] <rkdavis> i did the menuconfig outside of sb, copied the .config to sb and then a make modules -- seemed to work
[18:20:28] <RayHaque> Building a kernel was no problem for me. It was the alsa driver that bombed.
[18:20:45] <rkdavis> i was talking about just making the modules
[18:20:51] <RayHaque> For that matter, I find it hard to believe that these modules would work seeing that I never build an alsa-driver for them.
[18:21:14] <RayHaque> Ah, word.
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[18:32:24] <RayHaque> I mean ... isn't alsa-driver used to create the tools?
[18:32:26] <RayHaque> I am confused here.
[18:32:49] <RayHaque> If I don't need alsa-driver, then I could have done this whole thing in scratchbox.
[18:32:54] <rkdavis> no i thought alsa-tools was a seperate package
[18:33:19] <rkdavis> just needs the alsaheaders
[18:33:22] <RayHaque> According to ALSA you are supposed to install alsa-driver, then alsa-lib, and then alsa-utils.
[18:33:47] <RayHaque> I have all ready built alsa-lib and alsa-tools. They just don't work.
[18:34:17] <RayHaque> And now, I have rebuilt them in buildroot. And they fail exactly the same way.
[18:34:59] <RayHaque> "symbol snd_config_hook_load is not defined inside (null)
[18:42:03] <rkdavis> hmmm
[18:42:27] <RayHaque> Of course this could by my alsa.conf file too?
[18:42:36] <RayHaque> I didn't do anything to configure it really.
[18:42:56] <RayHaque> But then GPSfans package didnt even include one. I dont think you need it.
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[19:06:02] <RayHaque> Oh great. My PC is at work is MIA. There were my link to what I was working on. FML.
[19:17:12] <RayHaque> Looks like my linux host went down for some reason.
[19:17:19] <RayHaque> And I am on call.
[19:17:24] <RayHaque> FML!
[19:17:40] <RayHaque> I quit. I have had enough for today. Im going to go watch Zombieland now.
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[21:05:36] <RayHaue> rkdavis: did you make any progresss?
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[21:06:41] <rkdavis> RayHaue: nope got sidetracked i.e. wife talking at me
[21:08:01] <RayHaue> :-)
[21:08:34] <RayHaue> i got completely cut off from my workstation.
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[21:09:12] <RayHaue> i will have to go in tomorrow anyway. jsut sucks tonight
[21:10:23] <rkdavis> :(
[21:10:40] <rkdavis> well perhaps you can read the docs tonight :)
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