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<Mcavity-zippy> |
evening |
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<Malwyn> |
ZIPPIT FOLK! :O |
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<Malwyn> |
HALP! |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
hi |
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<Malwyn> |
hallo. :D |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
whats up? |
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<Malwyn> |
i'm having some networking troubles. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
ok.. |
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<Malwyn> |
and... also, the 1gb debian image appears to be too large for my 1gb zipit minisd card. D: |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
just extract it somplace else and copy the files over |
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<Malwyn> |
i tried that. some symlinks got buggered up. i think i've got it working now. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
got to do it as root |
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<Malwyn> |
Anyhow, networking. I have 'spi8686.bin' and 'spi8686_helper.bin'. |
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<Malwyn> |
are these all i need? |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
yes but i think they need to be renamed |
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<Malwyn> |
according to hunterdavis, it was just the spi8686_helper to gspi8686_hlp.bin. |
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<Malwyn> |
they both go into /lib/firmware/libertas/? |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
yes |
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<Malwyn> |
i tried that, and... no eth1. :/ |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
but im thinking that both need to be renamed |
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<Malwyn> |
got yours handy? oh wait, you're running on stock firmware, right? |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
gspi.bin |
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<Malwyn> |
aha! :D |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
no im on debian image..right now |
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<Malwyn> |
gspi.bin and what's the other one? |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
gspi8686_hlp.bin |
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<Malwyn> |
aha, sweet. |
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<Malwyn> |
hrm. i hope this works. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
if not let me know |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
it boots right? |
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<Malwyn> |
yeah. |
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<Malwyn> |
as for the filesystem, i'm using gparted on the debian filesystem image, deleted the fat partition on the end (useless to me), and am now dd'ing that. |
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<Malwyn> |
if this all goes well, i'll have a remote control for some projector TV, with beanbag and pizza. :D |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
good plan |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
lol |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
im watching my projector.. |
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<Malwyn> |
i've had that setup before, but on sweetlilmre's image, a crammed in ipkg/dpkg hybrid system, and the open source libertas drivers. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
but not using zipit as remote |
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<Malwyn> |
it beats getting up to change the volume for every poorly ripped episode of daria. |
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<Malwyn> |
getting out of a bean bag is... not fun. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
lol |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
heh i got vnc working..that was funny |
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<Malwyn> |
oh, eww. D: |
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<Malwyn> |
forward X, jesus! |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
was actualy going into windows box from zipit |
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<Malwyn> |
oh, hrm. I wonder if it would be possible to code a VNC server display driver for dosbox. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
though i could not vnc into the zipit |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
sad about that |
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<Malwyn> |
really? |
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<Malwyn> |
i've done it before. |
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<Malwyn> |
x11vnc. |
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<Malwyn> |
runs pretty nicely even with kdrive. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
huh cant seem to get it |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
ill try again later |
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<Malwyn> |
time for pizza. :D |
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<Malwyn> |
thanks for your help mate. |
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<Mcavity-zippy> |
np |
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<rkdavis> |
morning all |
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<Mcavity> |
morning |
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<LT[LC]> |
morning, Mcavity |
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<rkdavis> |
i have to traipse all around the internet today to find the little red nubbin that goes on an ibm thinkpad trackpoint thingy, "she who must be obeyed" has worn hers out playing diner dash and pogo |
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<rkdavis> |
so far i've found one place that has them for between $4 and $6 depending on the type |
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<Mcavity> |
ahhh fun fun |
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<Mcavity> |
trackpint tip? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm surprised it took her over 2 years to kill it |
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<Mcavity> |
http://www.meritline.com/ibm-thinkpad-trackpoint-red-cap-pointer---p-33558.aspx?source=fghdac |
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<Mcavity> |
=) |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/13112 that's where i found |
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<Mcavity> |
hehe |
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<Mcavity> |
my favoite keyboard was the early gateway keyboard |
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<Mcavity> |
things are tanks like the ibm m1 |
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<Mcavity> |
but had a macro function built in |
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<rkdavis> |
i still like the keyboard on the early olivetti's |
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<rkdavis> |
and actually i really liked the ones builtin the trs 80 model3/4 |
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<rkdavis> |
probably because i used it for so long and i got used to it |
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<Mcavity> |
hehe |
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<Mcavity> |
ugh i need to go to the post office |
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<rkdavis> |
me too :( |
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<Mcavity> |
bla.. need to see how my budget works out. may start puting more twoard the mortage. |
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<standby> |
i need to save up so i can get a house so i can have a fun mortgage |
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<Mcavity> |
well i its a buyers market |
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<standby> |
Mcavity: yeah, but by the time we have a downpayment ready i'm not sure what the market will be like |
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<standby> |
have way too much debt that we are finishing off with first |
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<Mcavity> |
yea need to try and clean that up a bit first |
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<standby> |
hopefully by next summer we will have cleaned out our debt, and saved enough for a reasonable downpayment |
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<Mcavity> |
I did good with my house. its helped my finances a bunch..but only becouse i didnt listen to the realtors lol |
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<standby> |
nice |
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<Mcavity> |
they will try and puch you to more house than your inital budget. dont let them! |
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<standby> |
well, we are going to custom build |
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<standby> |
in pennsylvania |
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<standby> |
so much cheaper out there then in new york |
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<Mcavity> |
they kept pushing me to houses 20-30k outside my range. |
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<standby> |
and sadly my commute would be very comparable |
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<Mcavity> |
heh i hate commutes |
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<Mcavity> |
takes me under 10 min from my front door to my desk |
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<standby> |
i've gotten used to it... hour and a half each way currently |
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<standby> |
so i have my netbook, kindle and psp with me to keep me busy at all times |
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<standby> |
then you don't notice the commute anymore |
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<Mcavity> |
but yea plan for paymnts on what you can aford now.. and later the payments feel cheaper and cheaper =) |
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<Mcavity> |
tough to use when driveing |
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<Mcavity> |
your probably on a train |
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<standby> |
bus |
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<standby> |
parking in manhattan, together with tolls would kill me |
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<Mcavity> |
right now aprtments are going for what i pay in mortage =) and i get equity.. and i get big tax credits =) |
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<standby> |
rather spend the $45 a week on an unlimited metrocard |
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<standby> |
what is the average rent out there for let's sat a 2 bedroom apartment/condo? |
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<Mcavity> |
didnt realise they cost that much but. i can see why |
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<Mcavity> |
humm have to check but id guess 600 |
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<standby> |
wow |
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<standby> |
see out here i was paying $1500 for my 2bedroom condo... now we downgraded to a shitty basement studio just so we can save faster |
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<standby> |
a little torture but it will pay off |
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<Mcavity> |
yea but ny and east/west coast is expencive in general |
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<standby> |
yeah |
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<standby> |
it sucks |
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<standby> |
PA. here i come |
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<Mcavity> |
yea looks like 600-800 a month depending on location here |
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<Mcavity> |
and each year the rents go up.. my mortage stays the same =) |
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<standby> |
i pay $500 for my basement studio... two windows... one is covered by the ac unit... the other gets no light because of a deck that is above it... |
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<standby> |
i used to pay $700 back in colorado for a 2 bedroom condo with a loft area...so sad |
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<Mcavity> |
heh a cave! |
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<Mcavity> |
but eventuly you shoudl be able to get a nice downpayment. |
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<standby> |
yeah, that's all that matters |
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<standby> |
i hope :p |
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<Mcavity> |
yup! |
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<standby> |
at least by moving to PA, i can get alot more house for my money, and still commute to NY where the salaries are higher... |
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<Mcavity> |
yea id hate to live in a shoebox. my house is not huge.. but big enough for me=) |
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<standby> |
well i just want something where i can live and be proud of having something to come home too... not looking for a mcmansion, but something comfortable where i can raise kids |
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<Mcavity> |
oh someday i may get a bigger house.. but this thing.. is rentable so I will never have to sell it =) |
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<standby> |
that's always a good investment |
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<Mcavity> |
ok out to the post office |
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<absamide> |
Rentals can be a good investment, but they can also be a huge hassle depending on the renter. |
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<unrest> |
is there any site summing up all info on z2 hacking by now? |
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<Mcavity> |
umm nope! |
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<ahigerd> |
Can't believe I haven't logged in here in several days. :P How are things going? |
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<Mcavity> |
umm |
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<Mcavity> |
sill hear |
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<Mcavity> |
=) still waiting for a new updated debian =) |
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<ahigerd> |
Heh |
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<Mcavity> |
but i have been looking at front ends.. some very possible ones out there. |
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<unrest> |
debian on the z2???? |
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<Mcavity> |
after i back up the phone next time i may look at ratkiller |
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<Mcavity> |
yes debian |
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<unrest> |
wow |
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<ahigerd> |
"ratkiller"? |
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<unrest> |
must've been years since i been here the last time.. |
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<unrest> |
debian.. |
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<unrest> |
:) |
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<unrest> |
any links/manpages/faqs? |
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<Mcavity> |
sure.. |
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<Mcavity> |
just enough to drive you mad =) |
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<ahigerd> |
Mcavity: You mean ratpoison? |
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<Mcavity> |
yes |
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<Mcavity> |
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/openzipit/index.php?title=Mcavity%27s_Notes |
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<ahigerd> |
Mcavity: ratpoison (and its successors, stumpwm and awesome) are oddly heavy |
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<ahigerd> |
dwm does basically the same thing and is much lighter |
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<Mcavity> |
the debian images is listed under windows instalation |
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<Mcavity> |
less than a meg? |
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<Mcavity> |
ok then realy need to get LokiChaos to fix that install script |
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<Mcavity> |
santana.. always good =) |
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<d0sh> |
santa? Nah! ;-) |
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<Mcavity> |
they dont make an iphone big enough for me lol |
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<Mcavity> |
i need a 200gig just for the music.. |
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<Mcavity> |
wooo |
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<Mcavity> |
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220350 |
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<muriani> |
I don't keep all my music on the ipod... I've well over 100GB total, but I'm not carrying it all with me at any given time |
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<muriani> |
it's waaaay too much music to sort through on the go. |
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<Mcavity> |
heh |
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<standby> |
i never quite understood why people have 100's of GB's of music... |
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<rkdavis> |
because they have no taste |
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<rkdavis> |
and arn't that selective |
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<rkdavis> |
and it's not really music it's pr0n :) |
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<standby> |
ahhh well that explains it all |
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<rkdavis> |
although i have about 300gig of bbc radio documentaries and comedy series but only about 7gig of music |
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<rkdavis> |
well 300gig of radio and audio books |
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<standby> |
i have like 5.45gb worth of music... and there's alot in there that i will be cutting |
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<dTal> |
I keep all music I can in FLAC |
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<dTal> |
that bulk it up a bit |
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<standby> |
my battlestar galactica folder takes up 77gb though... |
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<rkdavis> |
most of my music is classic -- bach organ works and jacques loussier jazzed versions |
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<standby> |
my collection is random 80's synthpop mixed with industrial and experimental noise... |
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<rkdavis> |
i do have a few guilty pleasures though, lily allen, little boots and regina spektor |
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<dTal> |
Experimental noise? |
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<dTal> |
as opposed to mainstream noise |
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<standby> |
dTal: literally experimental noise... not much else to say about it but that it's noise... personally i find it rather soothing and calming while i am concentrating... |
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<rkdavis> |
he just cat /dev/random > /dev/audio :) |
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<dTal> |
my question is is there a type of noise music which is not considered 'experimental' |
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<standby> |
dTal: I guess not |
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<standby> |
there seems to be a distinction somewhere, not sure what it would really be |
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<rkdavis> |
experimental means artsy fartsy perfpormance art rubbish, noise means anything teenagers are listening too |
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<standby> |
rkdavis: depends on who you ask :) |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmm talking about music i think it's time to blast the neighbourhood with some belle and sebastian for a while |
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<dTal> |
orbital ftw |
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<standby> |
merzbow ftw :) |
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<RayHaque> |
Good afternoon everyone! |
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<ahigerd> |
Howdy |
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<RayHaque> |
I got some interesting news today that you all should appreciate. |
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<RayHaque> |
ZW is moving ahead with their reseller program. |
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<RayHaque> |
So qualified individuals or businesses can begin selling these devices at a 'slight' profit. |
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<ahigerd> |
Interesting |
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<RayHaque> |
I was excited for multiple reasons. The first being that this means Zipit is still making attempts to market, promote, and distribute this device. |
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<RayHaque> |
Not just get rid of whats left. ;-) |
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<d0sh> |
Standby told us this morning that his reseller program is being canceled tho |
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<standby> |
d0sh: no, our client cancelled out project |
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<standby> |
nothing to do with zipit themselves |
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<standby> |
our not out |
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<d0sh> |
Right, I understood that... Sorry I didn't make that clear |
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<standby> |
no prob |
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<standby> |
really sucks, still gonna play with the ones i got for my own purposes... what do pharma people know about fun :p |
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<d0sh> |
Nothing that I know of... They're poking a needle in my wife as we speak... |
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<d0sh> |
Shes getting a flu shot |
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<standby> |
fun fun - i am one of those stubborn people who refuses to get one :) |
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<d0sh> |
I'm just too scared of needles :) |
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<d0sh> |
And I'm never sick |
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<d0sh> |
More than half the office is out sick right now and I don't even have a sniffle |
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<charlie> |
I'm stuck with an OpenZipit screen from a installation try, how dow I start over? |
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<charlie> |
dow = do |
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<rkdavis> |
charlie: what do you mean start over? revert to stock app or get the zipit booting with an oe/debian rootfs? |
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<ahigerd> |
charlie: If you've got the splash screen up, you can fix the filesystem on the SD card and get it to boot |
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<charlie> |
I have the splash screen |
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<charlie> |
I'd like to get the oe/debian going |
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<charlie> |
I run debian on everything else |
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<ahigerd> |
Which kernel did you flash on? |
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<charlie> |
2.6.29 |
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<ahigerd> |
Try the tarball here: http://hunterdavis.com/archives/199 |
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<charlie> |
thank you |
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<RayHaque> |
Hooray! I rebuilt centerim static with support for AIM, Yahoo!, and ICQ. All tested working. |
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<RayHaque> |
Had to drop Jabber and MSN because I couldn't get all of the gpg dependencies to go statically. Probably would have been too big a binary anyway. |
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<ahigerd> |
Too bad, Jabber would have been the most useful :P |
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<ahigerd> |
Then again you could always run, say, mcabber |
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<ahigerd> |
Then again it might have the same deps |
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<RayHaque> |
Well, I am keeping all my work so far. So I could always go back and try again. |
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<RayHaque> |
But then I have spent two weeks on this one program. I think I am throwing in the towel. I will let someone else figure gpgme out if they really want it. ;-) |
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<ahigerd> |
Hehe |
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<ahigerd> |
Did you at least get bitlbee working? My wife is interested in your work |
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<ahigerd> |
She wants to keep the stock FW but also have Linux |
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<RayHaque> |
I haven't messed with bitbee at all yet. |
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<RayHaque> |
Probably wouldnt take much to build it (famous last words). |
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<ahigerd> |
It has Jabber support so it might need gpg |
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<rkdavis> |
anyone know offhand how to deterime the end of a kernel and beginning of an initrd? if they have been concatinated together i.e. is there an initrd magic number? |
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<muriani> |
if you've got irssi, just /server im.bitlbee.org |
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<muriani> |
or set up a bitlbee gateway on your own server |
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<muriani> |
there's really no need to have it local on the zipit |
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<ahigerd> |
im.bitlbee.org will work, I guess. Local gateway doesn't work because I want this thing on-the-go |
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<RayHaque> |
^ I agree with muriani. |
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<RayHaque> |
ahigerd: Cant you use a public server? |
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<ahigerd> |
I can do that I guess |
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<ahigerd> |
I keep forgetting they exist :P |
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<ahigerd> |
Do you have irssi or just ircii? |
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<RayHaque> |
:-D |
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<muriani> |
doesn't matter really :P |
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<ahigerd> |
I prefer irssi as a matter of habit :P |
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<muriani> |
I wrote a PHP program that just creates a socket connection to bitlbee and communicates with raw commands :P |
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<RayHaque> |
ahigerd: ah yes, as do I. I need to build that next. |
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* |
ahigerd needs to build a brain-dead-trivial IRC server for the Z2, though |
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<ahigerd> |
Question, does z2shell have hal running like the full Linux boots do? |
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<RayHaque> |
I dont think so. |
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<RayHaque> |
But I dont know. |
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<RayHaque> |
Well, I suppose it would have to. It was built modular. |
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<ahigerd> |
Can you find out? ;) |
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<rkdavis> |
hehehheheh just tolf the wife i'm making potatos and eggs for supper -- so she sent an egg pun back so i had to reply :) |
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<rkdavis> |
Linda McComb wrote: ok but I had a hard boiled egg for breakfast and egg salad for lunch - I hope I don't get too eggcited |
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<rkdavis> |
eggsactly but don't eggsagerate the amount of eggs as counting eggs is an eggsacting task |
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<ahigerd> |
Don't put them all in one basket |
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* |
RayHaque shakes his head in shame. |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: Hey, do you know how the keybindings work for this thing? |
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<rkdavis> |
which keybindings? |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: Like, when I need to press "F1" - and the keymap file says it's a #64 or something like that ... how do I enter that on the keyboard? |
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<ahigerd> |
z2mouseemu is the only way to do it |
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<RayHaque> |
rkdavis: This one - > /mnt/sd0 # cat zipkeymap.map |
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<rkdavis> |
nope that i don't know how to do i think you have to mod the keymap.map to deal with that |
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<RayHaque> |
Like, wth does this mean?: keycode 65 = F7 |
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<rkdavis> |
ahigerd: it's not the only way it's just that we only have so many keys available and too many needed keys |
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<rkdavis> |
so z2mouseemu gave us a /backdoor/ way to do it |
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<ahigerd> |
Okay, correction |
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<ahigerd> |
z2mouseemu is the only way to do it with the keymaps shipped around here :P |
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<rkdavis> |
if you wanted to learn how to write a correct keymap you could simulate any keypress you wanted |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
z2mouseemu is/was handy as it allowed access to keys with hibits set of strange ones that sent 3 or 4 bytes per press |
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<LokiChaos> |
the issue with the F# keys I found was ModeShift+Shift+some letters would have ghosting issues, so I felt using z2mouse was a better solution |
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<Mcavity> |
bla i gota go to work tonight |
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<Mcavity> |
ok this is sweet. I just picked up one of the nintendo GBA magnifying screens. Its going to work perfectly once i remove the clips! |
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<Mcavity> |
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=60016&cpc=SCH |
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<Mcavity> |
and it folds out of the way perfectly! |
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<rkdavis> |
hows it look with the 4x6 font? |
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<notpod> |
.69 cents! w00t! checking shipping or if I *need* anything else from the geeks... |
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<Malwyn> |
damn wireless driver always dropping out. :( |
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* |
Malwyn makes a 69 joke. |
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<Malwyn> |
one dimensionality ftw, y'all! |
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<Mcavity> |
lol |
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<Mcavity> |
rk havent tried that yet but defently helps normal |
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<Mcavity> |
may make 4x6 usaeable |
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<Mcavity> |
ill try it tomorow |
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<Malwyn> |
4x6 is a terrible font size. :( |
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<Malwyn> |
you need at least 5x5 for Qs, Ms, and a variety of non-alphanumerics. |
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<Mcavity> |
well need something to get standard screen size |
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<Malwyn> |
true. |
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<Malwyn> |
you know, 3x4 would be a pretty good size to encode braille. |
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<Malwyn> |
the palm graffiti solution was that roman characters are just two fiddly for some systems, and so it improvised easier characters. I wonder why no one's ever tried standardising a tiny embeddable font for low res displays. |
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<Mcavity> |
had to use on a lcd.. |
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<Mcavity> |
maybe a "touch screen"? hehe |
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<Malwyn> |
i mean, visually. there's no reason braille can't be read by the sighted. |
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<Malwyn> |
it's just a 2x3 array of cells, as i recall. |
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<Mcavity> |
ok time for work |
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<Mcavity> |
bye! |
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<notpod> |
you could do morse code in 3x6 font (single pixel = dot, double pixel dash, stacked vertically for upto 5 dots or dashes) think of the pain. |
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