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[01:53:41] <absamide> Does anybody use Finch at the command line? If so how do you navigate with the default keymap?
[01:15:45] <rkdavis> not here but use the smile key plus n or p or a.........
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[01:29:03] <shif[omg]> hay guys
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[09:18:13] <Mcavity[A]> waves
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[11:13:15] <netbook> hey all
[11:13:25] <netbook> Aliosa27 still MIA?
[11:25:29] <marex> MIA ?
[11:29:43] <netbook> missing in action
[11:31:20] <marex> I heard he violated GPL ...
[11:31:28] <netbook> wut
[11:31:50] <netbook> oh because he hasn't open sourced his stuff?
[11:32:23] <marex> because he distributed modified binaries of GPLed software without source
[11:32:31] <marex> rkdavis, ^ tell the story
[11:33:07] <netbook> that's funny because i was thinking last week that he should OS his code
[11:33:37] <netbook> because last week was the 2nd week that deb images were done but not uploaded
[11:35:30] <netbook> anyone know his plan?
[12:23:54] <rkdavis> netbook: not got the foggiest
[12:36:58] <Foxx> ey'
[13:09:07] <Foxx> BBL
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[14:07:17] <firetrace> has anyone tried the new zmouse driver on aliosa27 site?
[14:11:40] <absamide> Pretty sure I am using it. no problems yet, it seems to be the basically the same as the z2mouse-option. But it appears to work fine.
[14:23:18] <firetrace> cool
[14:33:24] <absamide> Hmm. Ran across another site that is spreading the word about the Zipit with Debian. http://quantumlime.com/zipit
[14:37:53] <firetrace> i would love to pick up another z2 but there not a target in my state with one. And the ebay auction go to about retail price
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[14:49:06] <Cprossu> s/join #help
[14:49:09] <Cprossu> whoops
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[14:56:36] <crumb> did everyone get killed or was it just me?
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[14:59:32] <Cprossu> yeah
[14:59:34] <Cprossu> everyone
[14:59:46] <Cprossu> we are talking about it in #defocus now
[14:59:50] <Cprossu> dev's are working on it
[15:00:01] <Cprossu> they don't know if it's a attack or a oopsie yet
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[15:26:05] <RayHaque> Howdy folks.
[15:26:34] <RayHaque> I finally cleaned up and released some of the stuff I have been working on as one big image.
[15:26:38] <RayHaque> http://rayhaque.blogspot.com/2009/11/introducing-improved-z2-shell-aka-shell.html
[15:27:00] <RayHaque> So if any of you are running the stock OS, give that a shot. ;-)
[15:27:22] <RayHaque> I also made a little video to demonstrate what I added.
[15:27:26] <RayHaque> More to com!
[15:27:28] <RayHaque> *come
[15:51:25] <rkdavis> downloading it now :)
[15:57:14] <rkdavis> ok the wifi setup doesn't seem to be working on my ap
[15:57:24] <rkdavis> invalid psk
[15:57:33] <rkdavis> unable to parse
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[16:02:28] <RayHaque> Oh oh ... does your password have special characters in it?
[16:02:38] <rkdavis> nope
[16:02:58] <RayHaque> Are you able to see what it stored away in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?
[16:03:10] <rkdavis> yup the sdcard is in the laptop now
[16:03:36] <rkdavis> it's empty
[16:03:50] <rkdavis> ctrl_interface=/tmp/wpa_ctrl
[16:03:50] <rkdavis> network={
[16:03:50] <rkdavis> ssid="somenetwork"
[16:03:50] <rkdavis> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
[16:03:50] <rkdavis> psk=
[16:03:51] <rkdavis> }
[16:03:55] <rkdavis> that's the problem
[16:04:31] <RayHaque> When it asked if you wanted to configure at boot time, did you say yes?
[16:04:43] <rkdavis> yup
[16:04:51] <rkdavis> and endtered the password too
[16:05:38] <RayHaque> Let me test this "from the top" and see if I can reproduce the error.
[16:06:05] <rkdavis> ok
[16:06:47] <rkdavis> interesting wpa_supplicant2.conf has the psk
[16:07:40] <RayHaque> Uh oh ... I bet I know what I did. :-) That was for testing. I must have forgotten to change it.
[16:07:49] <rkdavis> ah that is the prob i think you don't rename wpa_supplicant2.conf to wpa_supplicant.conf
[16:09:24] <RayHaque> Well, I only put the 2 in there for testing
[16:10:00] <RayHaque> I meant to switch that back in the script once I verified it worked as expected.
[16:17:08] <RayHaque> I am uploading the "fixed" pack now. ;-)
[16:18:45] <rkdavis> ok
[16:19:02] <rkdavis> looking at a problem with udhcpc atm
[16:19:15] <RayHaque> - and we're done.
[16:22:28] <rkdavis> testing ow
[16:22:37] <RayHaque> Thanks for being a BETA tester. :-D
[16:23:03] <rkdavis> :)
[16:23:09] <rkdavis> ok that bit works
[16:23:14] <RayHaque> Hooray!
[16:23:29] <rkdavis> makig keys
[16:24:05] <rkdavis> still making host key
[16:24:19] <RayHaque> Yeah. :-/
[16:24:29] <RayHaque> You are using every bit of that ARM CPU right now.
[16:24:33] <rkdavis> still making host key
[16:24:42] <RayHaque> :-D
[16:24:46] <rkdavis> yup
[16:24:56] <rkdavis> bit slower than normal
[16:25:01] <rkdavis> but done
[16:25:10] <rkdavis> now to try udhcpc
[16:26:03] <rkdavis> ok problem with udhcpc but you didn't touch that
[16:26:26] <rkdavis> and didn't have this prob with the old z2shell
[16:26:28] <RayHaque> Hrm ... didn't change that at all.
[16:26:48] <rkdavis> yup
[16:26:51] <rkdavis> weird
[16:27:13] <rkdavis> but it gives local ip but route is complaiing
[16:28:45] <rkdavis> mompls
[16:31:19] <RayHaque> mompls?
[16:32:03] <rkdavis> MOMent PLeaSe
[16:32:10] <rkdavis> old chatter speak
[16:32:30] <RayHaque> Ah, I didn't know that one.
[16:32:39] <RayHaque> I thought you were calling for help from your mother. :-D
[16:32:58] <rkdavis> heh
[16:51:06] <netbook> mmmm Aliosa27 added another empty directory to mark2 today
[16:51:10] <netbook> "kexecboot"
[16:59:04] <kevman> I set up my zipit to start fluxbox on boot... But now if I shutdown -h now it it just restarts X!
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[19:25:40] <RayHaque> Anyone ever messed with MiniGui?
[19:26:08] <RayHaque> Looks like it was prett useful to the first line of Zipits. Can't seem to load the page now though.
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[19:39:54] <Mcavity> RayHaque you alive?
[19:40:38] <RayHaque> Yes sir.
[19:41:04] <Mcavity> looking over your web page.. you mentiond command line image viewers..
[19:41:18] <Mcavity> I think feh ? might work for you
[19:41:33] <Mcavity> and of course you need links2 =)
[19:41:45] <Mcavity> both those shoudl work without X11
[19:42:20] <RayHaque> feh, eh? I'll look that up!
[19:42:36] <Mcavity> i have also used mplayer to play video without xwindows working..though the command string was long
[19:42:45] <Mcavity> http://freshmeat.net/projects/feh/
[19:42:48] <RayHaque> And yeah I dont know how I missed links2. I thought I had links in there (from zipit's site).
[19:43:08] <RayHaque> Mcavity: Really? That would be fun. :-)
[19:45:18] <Mcavity> yes was a fb mode on mplayer and a rotate command [becouse the screen is sideways
[19:47:17] <rkdavis> ugh forgot that scratchbox is effectivly a chroot :) spent 30mins trying to workout why busybox wasn't configuring :)
[19:47:25] <Mcavity> i put my debian image back to stock.. i want to document exactly what i need to do to make it..happy..
[19:47:56] <rkdavis> RayHaque: you might want to add a MAC setting routine in the z2shell script -- i had 3 zipits all turned on and on the internet er talk about messy :)
[19:48:28] <Mcavity> true.. zipits all have same default mac..
[19:48:53] <rkdavis> Mcavity: yup because zipit set it on their end when the zipit talks to their server in the stockapp
[19:49:06] <rkdavis> BUT it's also in a file once a zipit has talked to their server
[19:49:55] <rkdavis> and that's the one that is also under the battery on the zipit -- but if you've turned it on and used it once with their stock app the correct mac is in /mnt/ffs
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[19:51:39] <Mcavity> I need to list out my favoite apps. mc, cmus, finch, ect.. maybe someway to swap the default fonts ect..
[19:55:21] <RayHaque> Thats funny. I didnt know that about the MAC addy.
[19:55:37] <RayHaque> I figured the serial number of the zipit was partially based on the MAC>
[19:56:49] <Mcavity> ugh. looks like im wrong.. i think fex does need x installed.
[19:56:55] <RayHaque> Mcavity: Well, feh required imlib2, which requires lX11. :-(
[19:57:08] <Mcavity> yup sorry. =(
[19:57:53] <Mcavity> maybe this http://linux.bytesex.org/fbida/
[19:58:34] <RayHaque> Ah yes. I was working on that one a few nights ago. I forget where I left off.
[20:00:37] <Mcavity> I would love to get a nice pretty launcher app i could use as a front end for the zipit.. so i could give one out as a gift.
[20:02:13] <Mcavity> though i havent seen anything like what im looking for yet
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[20:35:46] <Mcavity> something like this... http://www.lxde.org/lxlauncher
[20:41:02] <RayHaque> Man, I am about four levels deep in dependency hell here.
[20:41:24] <Mcavity> heh ouch
[20:41:31] <RayHaque> Everything needs libX11 so I went that route. It requires a dozen or more little peices.
[20:41:46] <RayHaque> I got down to something called xcb, which requires Python!
[20:42:00] <Mcavity> lol
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[20:49:01] <RayHaque> If these image viewers dont need a running windows manager, why do they all need the underlying X11 libs?
[20:49:10] <RayHaque> I'm calling shenanigans.
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[20:49:53] <Mcavity> lol
[21:17:14] <Mcavity> doh. must not have moved the wi-fi drivers over
[21:18:15] <Mcavity> ill mess with it later
[21:44:15] <RayHaque> Anyone know if there is a bit switch to enable the keyboard light?
[21:44:29] <RayHaque> From the shell that is. ;-)
[21:44:58] <rkdavis> http://zipit.pastebin.com/m1a31adef could trey those
[21:45:41] <RayHaque> thanks rkdavis!
[21:48:08] <rkdavis> how did you get ncurses into scratchbox? i just compiled and installed it but busybox fails saying undefined symbols when i try to do a menuconfig
[21:50:30] <RayHaque> There were some bumps building it.
[21:50:49] <RayHaque> I'm trying to remember them .... :-)
[21:51:47] <RayHaque> But undefined symbols sounds like you are criss-crossing a kernel with elements that don't match it.
[21:52:43] <rkdavis> well it's start scratchbox, wget ncurse, make, make install, wget busybox make defconfig make menuconfig and that's what fails
[21:55:29] <RayHaque> And you never left scratchbox, right?
[21:55:39] <rkdavis> nope
[21:56:05] <RayHaque> I have caught myself compiling outside of scratch because I left it momentarily. :-)
[21:56:34] <rkdavis> defiantly didn't leave scratchbox at all
[21:57:26] <rkdavis> i did that 3 times just incase i had, i.e. i built ncurses and installed it again and retried busybox again
[21:57:31] <rkdavis> all in sb
[21:57:53] <RayHaque> I want to say that when I built ncurses, I changed the prefix in configure.
[21:58:11] <RayHaque> I think I did ... CFLAGS=-static ./configure --prefix=/
[21:58:20] <RayHaque> So that it wouldn't install to /usr/local
[21:58:30] <rkdavis> hmmm ok
[21:58:34] <RayHaque> I don't know that it would make a different in your case though.
[21:58:47] <rkdavis> the headers are obviously in the right place as it didn't complain about those
[21:58:47] <RayHaque> I have never got unresolved symbol errors while in scratchbox.
[21:59:07] <rkdavis> but ok i'll try with a different prefix
[21:59:14] <RayHaque> Usually thats when I am trying to force a driver to load with insmod. :-)
[22:00:38] <RayHaque> If I open the Makefile for nmap, I changed this line: CCOPT = -static
[22:07:20] <RayHaque> Im going to head off to bed folks.
[22:07:28] <rkdavis> night
[22:07:28] <RayHaque> Catch you all tomorrow.
[22:07:41] <RayHaque> rkdavis: Good luck with ncurses!
[22:08:02] <rkdavis> ncurses ain't the problem it's using it for busybox :)
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[22:15:07] <Mcavity> ncurses foiled again?
[22:15:41] <rkdavis> it's those meddling kids again
[22:15:48] <Mcavity> heh
[22:18:52] <kevman> Has anyone tried that pixil on the zipit2?
[22:19:34] <Mcavity> dont think so
[22:19:58] <kevman> Mine is ignoring the shutdown -h now command...
[22:21:02] <Mcavity> time for the magic reset button lol
[22:21:23] <kevman> I don't know why
[22:21:27] <kevman> Its annoying
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[22:22:33] <kevman> init 0 doesn't work either
[22:22:55] <Mcavity> try poweroff ?
[22:23:12] <kevman> I did init 1, now I don't have a console
[22:23:24] <Mcavity> oops
[22:23:54] <kevman> I dunno what's wrong with it. It does this every boot
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[22:25:12] <Mcavity> afraid i wont be any help on that one
[22:27:16] <Mcavity> i should work on my zipit.. but.. im lazy right now
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