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<Malwyn> |
anyone about? |
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<Tox> |
...how about now? >.> |
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<Tox> |
I'm trying to mount /dev/mtdblock0 and /dev/mtdblock1, but I'm getting 'input/output error'. Is this normal? >.> |
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<rkdavis> |
yes you need to change it from char to block |
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<rkdavis> |
i forget exactly what the commant is but it's in the irc logs |
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<Tox> |
rightio. Um, how do I do that? >.> |
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<rkdavis> |
oh gawd i've been tosleep since then |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on i'll look for it in my logs |
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<Tox> |
whenever I want the irc logs on zipitwireless, the website seems to stop working. Are they mirrored somewhere? |
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<rkdavis> |
unfortunatly not that i know off hand |
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<rkdavis> |
the bot was up at the time |
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<rkdavis> |
disclaimer: check the man pages before doing it but i think iirc it was |
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<rkdavis> |
mknod /dev/block0 er er hold on i'll check |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on i knw where the info will bew |
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<rkdavis> |
brb |
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<Tox> |
ta. |
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<rkdavis> |
still looking but in a wiki recursiveloop |
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<rkdavis> |
be about 5 mins |
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<rkdavis> |
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=253143&package_id=318365&release_id=675710 look in the .sh file in that download |
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<rkdavis> |
it's for mtdblock1 but it's the same problem |
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<rkdavis> |
but as i said don't blame me if it screws up as i'll just run and hide :) |
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<Tox> |
oh awesome, I was looking for autoflasher before, too. |
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<Tox> |
(I'm running the kernel straight from the rom, and the userland from an sd card. D:) |
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<rkdavis> |
mtdblock0 might be different -- iirc correctly you can mount mtdblock0 from the z2shell hack too |
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<rkdavis> |
but it's a bit convoluted |
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<rkdavis> |
ok well all the good infor about oe and reflashing is on openzipit.sourceforge.net and sweetlilmre.blogspot.com |
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<Tox> |
everything about hacking the zipit is pretty convoluted. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
yes and no :) once the reflasher was made by sweetlilmre and oe was sorted with git it's alot easier |
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<Tox> |
are there any pre-built images for 2.6.29 floating around too? |
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<Tox> |
I have one, but I'm not quite sure if I want to torch the rom with it. >.> |
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<rkdavis> |
not really as it's best to set up your own oe environment |
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<rkdavis> |
i think there might be on sweetlilmre's blog |
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<rkdavis> |
thouhg |
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<Tox> |
make sure anything that goes wrong is your own fault, right? :P |
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<Tox> |
good call. |
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<rkdavis> |
t's better to build your own as you have to extract 2 files from the old filesystem and put them on the new |
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<Tox> |
gspa_whatever? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<Tox> |
yeah, I've got that. |
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<Tox> |
so you only flash the kernel itself? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
the rest is on the sdcard |
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<rkdavis> |
although that is being worked on by GPSFan, sweetlilmre and marex iirc |
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<rkdavis> |
do you have the serial mod or jtag on your zioit? |
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<Tox> |
I don't, no. :< |
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<Tox> |
I've been doing everything via the sd card, and considering that, I've had some decent luck with it. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
i've reflashed without about 15 times with no probs but just in case it goes wrong the only recovery is via the serial mod |
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<Tox> |
if I brick my zipit, I'll probably try the serial mod. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Tox> |
even though I have absolutely no experience with hardware hacking. |
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<Tox> |
or soldering at all, for that matter. |
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<rkdavis> |
i still haven't done it but it looks pretty easy if you can weild a soldering iron |
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<Tox> |
that's what I'm worried about. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
i can weild one but my hands and eyes are not what they once were so i just haven't felt the need to do it yet |
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<Tox> |
I'm not sure if my super special awesome drawing abilities extend to scraping molten metal onto a tiny pcb. |
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<Tox> |
so how do I set up the userland? At the moment I've got [vfat][ext2][swap], so do I just put a kernel and autoflashing z2script.sh in [vfat] and boot? |
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<rkdavis> |
you do the reflash using vfat on the sdcard and it's best to have 2 sdcards otherwise it's a PITA |
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<rkdavis> |
but the other sdcard you format as ext3 |
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<rkdavis> |
and untar the userland onto it |
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<rkdavis> |
the instructions are in the files on sweetlilmre's blog |
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<rkdavis> |
actually i think that has the kernel already built in it too |
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<rkdavis> |
just make sure you read the readme as it's got very important info in it |
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<rkdavis> |
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=253143&package_id=309641 |
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<rkdavis> |
yes it is the prebuilt one |
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<rkdavis> |
so you use the reflasher on a vfat formatted sdcard after copying the kernel .bin from the openzipit page on sf |
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<rkdavis> |
and then you format an sdcard ext3 and use the instructions in the tarball to untar the wireless image stuff onto it |
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<Tox> |
PITA? |
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<rkdavis> |
PITA == Pain In The Arse |
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<kylea> |
So guys I just compiled my first base-image. Yay! |
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<Tox> |
Ah. well I've got one sd card, and one mini-sd card. Jesus fuck, why the crap would anyone put a 'mini-sd' slot in their device? There's probably four stores in the world that sell them. |
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<Tox> |
I guess I'll have to try my luck with just the one card. |
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<Tox> |
also, what's the actual architecture name? armv5te or arm-oabi? I've tried using packages from either and occasionally the system will crash with an illegal instruction. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the sd card thing is a real b***** |
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<rkdavis> |
well oe is EABI |
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<rkdavis> |
but it is v5te i think at least that's where oe puts stuff |
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<Tox> |
shouldn't anything built for armv5 work though? |
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<Tox> |
and incidentally, is there any reason debian packages shouldn't work? |
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<rkdavis> |
not really iirc you also have endianness to consider along with OABI/EABI |
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<Tox> |
there's both big and little endian debian repositories, iirc. |
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<rkdavis> |
i know i use debian on my slug |
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<Tox> |
so what's the difference between oabi and eabi? |
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<rkdavis> |
OABI is the original ABI iirc and EABI is the newer one designed for embedded devices iirc but don't quote me |
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<Tox> |
and... EABI is deliberately non-backwards-compatible? |
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<rkdavis> |
not diliberatly but it isn't compatable -- basically the same as all ABI's when it changes everything breaks |
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<rkdavis> |
yes i ewas correct EABI is Embedded ABI |
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<Tox> |
shouldn't oabi be targeted at embedded applications anyway? |
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<Tox> |
I mean, the ARM architecture hasn't been in anything ELSE since the archimedes... |
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<rkdavis> |
nope oabi is basically depricated or at least not recommended |
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<Tox> |
rightio. |
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<rkdavis> |
it's just taking along time to die |
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<rkdavis> |
buildroot defaults to oabi i think at least it did when i was using it earlier this year |
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<rkdavis> |
but two new releases since then so they might have changed it |
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<Tox> |
okay, right. I'm waiting on my gp2x to charge (I'm using it as an SD card adapter for my PC) and boosting my zipit's battery a little, and then I'm going to try this. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok |
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<Tox> |
I won't blame you if everything goes tits up. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
and you jammy git i sort of wanted a gp2x but never had the cash available and i hate buying online i want instant gratification |
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<Tox> |
I got mine for around $170 aud, after they stopped making them and the one australian store had some left in stock. |
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<Tox> |
I'd reeeeeally like a pandora though. :D |
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<Tox> |
hell, I'd probably end up hocking my zipit AND gp2x just to pay for one. |
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<rkdavis> |
it shouldn't -- i don't think anyone has had a problem if they've had a pluged in zipit with full battery and TWO sd card and it's been done at least 30 times to my knowledge but the one sd card thing makes it a bit more hairy but not much |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the pandora looks nice although i keep looking at the gecko and/or a nokia n810 |
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<Tox> |
the gecko? |
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<rkdavis> |
lowpowered netbook that runs off double a's |
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<rkdavis> |
nice though |
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<rkdavis> |
http://www.norhtec.com/products/gecko/index.html |
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<rkdavis> |
and hmmm my brain just processed something you said -- archimedies -- you a brit? |
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<Tox> |
and running xp, of course. :P |
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<Tox> |
Nah, I'm australian. I've never actually seen an archimedes, but apparently the acorn line was pretty popular in australia too. |
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<rkdavis> |
ah ok |
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<Tox> |
I went to two apple-flavoured schools however. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
well the xp would be wiped off it but still nice |
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<Tox> |
I even rescued one of the apple//es I used to use in primary school. |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh i hate apples |
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<Tox> |
I have a love-hate relationship with apple. Most of the love is reserved for apple from 1998 backward. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
i was a z80 fanboy so i used the spectrum,zx81, trs-80 model 3/4 newbrains camputers lynx..... |
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<rkdavis> |
had bbc micro's at school but i avoided them other than for elite and chucky egg |
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<rkdavis> |
and we had rml 380z's too |
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<Tox> |
oh, I have a zx spectrum somewhere. Two c64s, two atari 2600s, an atari 800 (I think?), and a couple of other little artifacts. |
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<rkdavis> |
all my stuff has been lost in moves around the world but i have 2 commie 64's here that i picked up from freecycle |
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<Tox> |
The apple//e is still pretty useful, I use her for a linux terminal. |
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<Tox> |
And I adore my mac classic. Say what you will about apple, but you can't deny that the original macintosh line had the crispest, cleanest graphics and gui around at the time. |
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<rkdavis> |
nah i hated them |
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<Tox> |
Everything else in the 80s was pretty much standard 'blurry as fuck composite video monitor' fair. |
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<rkdavis> |
and i had a better machine :) a camputers lynx :) |
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<rkdavis> |
http://camputerslynx.info |
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<Tox> |
I'd kill to get my hands on a next cube. |
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<Tox> |
I have 14 imacs. |
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<Tox> |
all g3s. :D |
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<rkdavis> |
i have an imac blueberry thta i found on the street and a mac se also found in the street with modem etc. but never done more than check it worked |
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<rkdavis> |
it's holding up my router atm |
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<Tox> |
heh. imac g3s will run linux pretty tolerably, but osx 10.3 will get the best use out of them. |
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<rkdavis> |
didn't you get the memo? if you have macs you are not allowed in this channel :) |
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<rkdavis> |
well apart from pb_powermac but he's the exception that proves the rule |
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<Tox> |
hey, be nice. As a games developer, I might one day target the zipit as a platform! :O |
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<rkdavis> |
ah ok :) we'll allow you too then |
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<Tox> |
you know, if I ever start using C++ or C instead of FreeBASIC to make games for people to play instead of games that are actually fun to program. |
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<rkdavis> |
but we expect to see at least 4 ports of existing games and 3 new ones by christmas |
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<Tox> |
jesus christ, freebasic needs to get its c-emitter working. ._. |
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<rkdavis> |
i used to use euphoria alot 5 to 7 years ago i was looking at the new version for the zipit but too much x86 assembler in it to port easily |
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<Tox> |
Interestingly, the freebasic graphics library makes heavy use of MMX, but I don't think it touches SSE. |
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<rkdavis> |
nice lang and great for somethings but just too x86 these days |
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<Tox> |
Everything's too x86 these days. |
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<Tox> |
Look at that gecko. AA batteries and an x86 processor. What are they THINKING? |
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<rkdavis> |
i actually LIKE the double a's thing |
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<rkdavis> |
as long as they do it like the tandy model 100 in the 80s where changing the batteries gave you 5 minutes to swap them before you lost ram |
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<rkdavis> |
double aa's even recharables are available everyhwere for a buck or two so you'll never need to worry about power |
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<rkdavis> |
i bet you could find double a's in the sahara |
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<rkdavis> |
the x86 thing is nice in someways and not in others -- you have compatability but it might have been better with arm or something else |
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<rkdavis> |
but with x86 i could wipe the os and put ms-dos on it :) |
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<rkdavis> |
i boot my amd turion64 x2 into ms-dos quite regularly :) -- have it on a flashdrive :) |
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<rkdavis> |
great for running emulators :) |
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<Tox> |
I like the double as thing too. :P |
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<Tox> |
I don't like that they're powering a processor that's only considered power consumption to be an after thought in the last five years or so. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup although it is their own version |
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<rkdavis> |
so maybe they have got it right |
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<rkdavis> |
says it only uses 1.2watts |
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<rkdavis> |
and the battery life on the recharables is comparable to other laptops |
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<Tox> |
x86 is kind of a catch 22. On the one hand, it runs everything from the 1970s, but on the other, this means it's useless in a mobile setting. |
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<Tox> |
You can't shave off x86 backward compatibility, because then it's useless for windows and by then you may as well just use arm. |
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<rkdavis> |
recharable batteries in mp3 players and the like really p***es me off |
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<Tox> |
gp2xes take AA batteries. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
have to wait for production models and see what the reviews say -- but still nice idea |
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<rkdavis> |
the batter is probably my biggest bugaboo with the zipit |
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<Tox> |
basically the primary feature of 'x86 for everything' is the same feature of 'windows for everything' in that everything is for windows ON x86, which is because 'x86 is for everything' and so is windows. |
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<rkdavis> |
couple of double a's instead of the battery pack would have been great although it'd be heavier but be handier for on the road |
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<rkdavis> |
we need to go back to z80's and cp/m :) |
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<Tox> |
the world would benefit from a hike in ARM usage beyond embedded devices, and applications written for other architectures to go along with that. |
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<Tox> |
my biggest problem with the zipit2's hardware is that americans have batshit insane connectors. >.> |
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<rkdavis> |
hehehehehhehehehehehehehhe |
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<rkdavis> |
yup but the connectores are available |
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<Tox> |
it took me a week hunting through my dozens of orphaned power cables to find one that was compatible before I conceded defeat and bought an adapter on ebay. |
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<rkdavis> |
and would have been nicer to have a few more pins for stuff but well it is what it is |
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<rkdavis> |
you didn't get a psu with your zipit? grey import or ebay? |
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<Tox> |
I got a PSU, but it was for a US-style power outlet, and the connector type is this weird skinny thing I've never seen before. |
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<rkdavis> |
yup the back connector is weird -- digikey has them quite checp -- and people have ordered them quite successfully |
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<Tox> |
has anyone figured out to do with mystery data port on the zipit yet? |
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<Tox> |
like um, what IS it? modified usb or something? |
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<rkdavis> |
i think pb_powermac is doing some stuff with it but i think he's being careful about what he says -- some sort of breakout box iirc |
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<rkdavis> |
nope it's alot of stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
are you registered on the linux.zipitwireless.com wiki? |
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<Tox> |
I can't remember. zipitwireless breaks at the drop of a hat, so I've been ignoring it lately. |
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<rkdavis> |
if you are then after logging in this link givves you the pinouts etc and connector part numbers |
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<rkdavis> |
http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/hardware |
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<unrest> |
good evening |
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<rkdavis> |
it's been up for a whole week now |
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<rkdavis> |
the vm was upgraded and seems stable touch wood |
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<rkdavis> |
evening unrest |
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<unrest> |
how art thee? |
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<rkdavis> |
rushing around like a headless chickin trying to solve kids student loan problems before start of term on monday, he screwed up, wife screwed up and college screwed up |
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<Tox> |
brb, smoke. there's a zipit virtual machine now? |
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<unrest> |
gorgeous.. |
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<rkdavis> |
he and wife thought it was automatic extension, college wanted to audit his application so delay there and then lost all the papers and didn't tell us until a week before star tof term and it take s4 weeks to process so rushing aorund trying to raise $1200 before monday or get them to get his application approved by then |
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<rkdavis> |
but they are closed today and tomorrow so no info |
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<rkdavis> |
real PITA |
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<rkdavis> |
but relaxing now as nothing i can do until later so not going to sweat it |
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<rkdavis> |
hi sweet_away |
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<unrest> |
do you have kdrive running? |
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unrest forgot how to load the xkbmap... |
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<rkdavis> |
nope sorry |
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<rkdavis> |
nothing about it on the wiki? |
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<unrest> |
can't find |
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<unrest> |
tho i know it's there |
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<sweet_away> |
'lo in for a second or two. I got k-drive running with the wireless+x image |
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<rkdavis> |
sweet_away: just sent you an email :) |
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<unrest> |
sweet_away, you got the "@" working in kdrive? |
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<sweet_away> |
as in kbd key? |
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<rkdavis> |
hmmmm just did a search and nothing popped up for xkbdev :( |
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<Tox> |
okay, gonna give this thing a shot. |
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<rkdavis> |
and i broke the wiki (not really but it werrored :) ) |
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<rkdavis> |
tox: goodluck |
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rkdavis fingers crossed |
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<unrest> |
well |
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<Tox> |
thanks, I'll need it. :D |
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<unrest> |
how do i load the zipkeymap.map? |
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<rkdavis> |
just have a shot of whiskey and go for it |
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<unrest> |
(stole it from the z2shell) |
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<sweet_away> |
dunno, gonna have to run, but I'll be back later |
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<unrest> |
ttyl |
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<rkdavis> |
ttfn |
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<Tox> |
...what file format is zImage-zipit2.bin.cpgz? |
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<Tox> |
do I just gunzip it? |
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<rkdavis> |
it's a raw binary |
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<rkdavis> |
shouldn't be compressed in anyway |
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<rkdavis> |
how did you endup with a cpgz file? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup not compressed when i d/l it |
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<Tox> |
okay, so should I just copy ext3/boot/zImage-2.6.29 to vfat/kernel.bin? |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on a sec |
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<rkdavis> |
right you format the sdcard as vfat and copy the reflasher stuff and the kernel bin to it |
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<rkdavis> |
then put that in the zipit and boot and wait |
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<unrest> |
darn... can't get the @ |
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<rkdavis> |
then once that is dfinished |
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<unrest> |
and all the other alt+x keys neither.. |
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<rkdavis> |
reformat the card as ext3 and use the userland stuff from the wireless image tarball and follow the untar instructions in that |
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<unrest> |
need to correct that: not in x |
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<rkdavis> |
then put the sdc ard into the zipoit and boot |
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<kylea> |
Mine stays at "Switching Root...", am I not seeing something because of console redirection? |
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<Tox> |
fark, my gp2x died. >.< |
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<Foxx> |
what happened? |
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<Foxx> |
i was given one that seemed to have a bad DC-DC inverter, i replaced it and it still has the same issue |
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<Tox> |
batteries ran out. :P |
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<rkdavis> |
tox: heh -- got spare double a's? :) |
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<Tox> |
i do, thankfully. :P |
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<Tox> |
how long does 'flashing new kernel' usually take? |
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<Tox> |
oh, nevermind. |
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<Tox> |
it took about a minute, so... worrying. heh. XD |
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<Tox> |
okay, to extract to the ext2 partition, I just tar xvf wireless-image-zipit2.tar.gz -C ext3mount/ ? |
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<rkdavis> |
yup -- but check the readme first |
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<Tox> |
there's a readme? |
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<rkdavis> |
brb gotta inject the cat |
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<rkdavis> |
there was |
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<Tox> |
I have... a rodent dressed as a penguin on bootscreen. |
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<Tox> |
Good sign! :D |
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<rkdavis> |
yup |
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<rkdavis> |
great sign :) |
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<Foxx> |
what are you working on? |
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<Foxx> |
ive been out of the zipit loop for a while |
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<Tox> |
it works! :D |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: .29 kernel and filesystem |
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<rkdavis> |
ugh sticky keyboard now |
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<rkdavis> |
yuk |
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<Foxx> |
URL to info about it? |
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<Foxx> |
i have no idea what kind of progress has been made |
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<rkdavis> |
o and you are right no readme -- might ave been release notes |
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<Foxx> |
last i peeked in all that was working was the Z2 shell and some basic programs that went no further than ncurses |
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<rkdavis> |
sweetlilmre.blogspot.com and openzipit.sourceforge.net |
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<Foxx> |
thanks |
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<rkdavis> |
mompls |
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<Tox> |
and... eth0 is gone. ._. |
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<rkdavis> |
did you do the gspi stuff? |
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<Foxx> |
didnt GPSFan find the onboard serial and jtag? |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e. extract, copy the old files to te new filesystem on the sdcard? |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: yes |
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<Tox> |
I copied the gspi modules into /lib/modules/somewhere/ |
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<rkdavis> |
they are on pb_powermac's site iirc |
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<Foxx> |
i dont see information about that on the websites you linked to |
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<Foxx> |
link? |
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<rkdavis> |
hold on let me see if i can find it for you |
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<Foxx> |
sorry, id rather just read up on stuff and not waste your time aswering my questions |
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<Foxx> |
hell, im still working on my Z1!! |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: ere you are http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/ |
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<Foxx> |
i cant find a few of the kernel modules to build stuff |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: ok the best starting place is with sweetlilmre's oe stuff |
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<Foxx> |
i was hoping to get rfmon on my Z1 :{ |
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<rkdavis> |
that is on his blog page |
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<rkdavis> |
then it's a good idea to read the wiki on his sourceforge page about the reflasher and the userland/kernel stuff that he has built already but after using that you should do your own oe build |
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<rkdavis> |
not sure about the state of the z1 stuff but GPSFan can probably help you there |
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<Foxx> |
i will admit, i do not have a talent for source code |
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<Foxx> |
thats my achiles heel |
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<Foxx> |
i know enough to put binaries together and make a working device, or even compile, but cross-compile is where i fall |
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<rkdavis> |
well once oe is setup you can basically just use it like a normal repository and 9 times out of 10 stuff just builds |
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<Foxx> |
thank you for the help |
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<rkdavis> |
no probs |
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<Foxx> |
what kind of progress has been made so far? |
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<Foxx> |
Wifi working? Sound? GUI? |
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<rkdavis> |
well .29 kernel works and looks like wifi will be better now the patch has been found |
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<Foxx> |
last i recall when i was poking around there was two issues with X, one being the LCD is actually rotated, and it would load because there was mouse input |
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<Foxx> |
also, i noticed that the Nintendo DS touchscreen is the same size as the Z2 screen... |
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<rkdavis> |
looks like battery and leds are now also sussed not sure about sound on .29 but shouldn't be too hard or long to fix if it doesn't |
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<Foxx> |
Sparkfun.com now how a breakout board |
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<rkdavis> |
as gpsfan got it working on the original kernel |
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<Foxx> |
if i can find a controller board (and i think i have) it might be possible to add in a touchscreen, if we can find space for the encoder controller board |
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<rkdavis> |
i've not done anything X related as i got finch working and stopped as it did what i wanted/needed at the time |
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<Foxx> |
especially with having a serial connection |
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<rkdavis> |
but i should probably try Xa again soon |
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<Tox> |
mplayer and kdrive are a good mix. |
| [11:57:39] |
<Tox> |
You know, being able to watch videos the right way up and all. :D |
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<Foxx> |
ill be using my Z1 as a local wifi scanner, SSH client, and serial terminal, for a 90Mhz machine thats fine |
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<Foxx> |
i cant justify the Z2 doing such menial tasks |
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<Foxx> |
especially when its CPU outperforms the host devices (266Mhz) |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<Foxx> |
has the jtag been fiddled with? |
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<Foxx> |
any way to recover from a brick using it, yet? |
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<Tox> |
awesome, things are working. :D |
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<Tox> |
thanks again rkdavis |
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<rkdavis> |
yup again that's gps's area but he's done it |
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<rkdavis> |
tox:cool |
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<Foxx> |
nice |
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<rkdavis> |
wifi etc working now? |
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<Tox> |
yeah, I used an image I built myself. |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<Tox> |
I didn't really trust it before, but since it's just the userland I figure it's probably relatively safe. |
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<rkdavis> |
you'll probably want to keep chcking for when sweetlilmre posts the wifi patch butr have fun |
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<Foxx> |
what exactly is userland? i have a general idea but not a crystal definition |
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<Tox> |
yeah. |
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<Tox> |
Foxx, everything but the kernel basically. |
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<Foxx> |
thats what i assumed |
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<rkdavis> |
userland is all the apps and files that are not the kernel |
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<Foxx> |
ok, so im not as dumb as i think, cool |
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<rkdavis> |
i.e. stuff the user can do |
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<Tox> |
in the zipit's case, the kernel goes on the rom chip, and all the applications, configuration and files are on the sd card on an ext2/3 partition, which is the userland. |
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<Foxx> |
i remember a few memebers were working on a new kernel |
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<Foxx> |
instead of the limited Z2 shell |
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<Foxx> |
any word on that? |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: that's whats on the links i gave you |
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<Tox> |
you can't get much newer than 2.6.29. |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, im looking at the info now, doesnt seem like much more has been done with it, just some cleanup |
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<Tox> |
okay, now to get ALSA working. |
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<Tox> |
ipkg install alsa-utils does... approximately nothing. |
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<Tox> |
rkdavis, hints? D: |
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<rkdavis> |
tox: nope sorry although check gpsfans stuff in the yahoo group it might give clues |
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<rkdavis> |
sweet said alsa just worked but you had to fiddle with the mixer to ge tte volume right |
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<Tox> |
i can do without for now. |
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<rkdavis> |
and i might have misread him |
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<Tox> |
I'ma set up kdrive and mplayer again. |
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<kylea> |
Tox: do you have your own ipkg repository setup? |
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<Tox> |
maybe get some sdl stuff working. |
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<Tox> |
kylea, yeah, but I don't use it. |
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<kylea> |
where are you getting the alsa-utils then? |
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<Tox> |
the angstrom repositories. |
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<kylea> |
they have packages that are compatible with the zipit? |
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<Tox> |
compatible with the armv5te cpu at any rate. |
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<Tox> |
That's compatible enough. |
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<kylea> |
ok |
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<kylea> |
are you using the unstable feed? |
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<rkdavis> |
bbiab kid wants food |
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<rkdavis> |
dunno why i fed him last week |
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<kylea> |
today I'm going to solder the serial port on my zipit |
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<kylea> |
So I just soldered to the serial port pads on my zipit, and now it doesn't seem to boot |
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<kylea> |
I've got front leds, but no LCD |
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<kylea> |
what do you guys think? |
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<Mallium> |
oh dear. D: |
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<kylea> |
Everything looks fine |
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<rkdavis> |
back |
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<rkdavis> |
is it legal to shoot annoying people in the launderette? if it isn't it should be but bleeding hell they were annoying |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
what happened? |
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<rkdavis> |
kylea: i assume you checked to make sure you got the right places and no spurious solder anywhere? |
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<Foxx> |
does the serial port on the Z2 have a shell on it? |
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<rkdavis> |
i'm not 100% sure but i think there are 2 versions of the pcb at least thatswhat i understood from the webpage so maybe it's a different location |
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<Foxx> |
or is it just set up as a syandard 3 wire TLL serial port? |
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<Foxx> |
no shell piped to it... |
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<rkdavis> |
the only thing i can suggest is unsolder 1 by one and see if you get anything after each desolder |
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<kylea> |
Yea I checked up my version, it was a short in one of my wires |
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<kylea> |
I just unsoldered one and it came on. Hallelujah! |
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<rkdavis> |
ok so that was the spurious one |
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<rkdavis> |
so now to double check the location and resolder |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<kylea> |
This is the hardest soldering job I've ever done |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<rkdavis> |
outsource it to a kid with small fingers and good eyes |
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<Foxx> |
its people like you that get me spammed for soldering jobs! lol |
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<Foxx> |
20 years experience and proper tools does help a lot |
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<rkdavis> |
foxx: i was good in my youth but i got sick so my eyes went and got the shakes |
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<Foxx> |
ive got nerve damage that causes shakes, but ive been able to tame them |
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<rkdavis> |
i was always making stuff |
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<Foxx> |
with all the eye injuries ive had the doc' is supprised my vision is perfect |
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<rkdavis> |
i lost 120 pounds in 2 months and even after 2 years not back to full weight yet |
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<Foxx> |
wow, suckage |
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<rkdavis> |
went from 20/20 vision to being half blind |
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<Foxx> |
what happened? if you dont mind me asking? |
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<Foxx> |
i had a 16 guage copper rod pierce into my cornea a few years ago... |
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<rkdavis> |
emergency appendectiumy then a year later what looked like ulcer syndrome but wasn't |
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<Foxx> |
ick |
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<rkdavis> |
the appendectumy activated a meckles tat took 8 moths and 200 days and 15 operations to diagnose and fix |
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<Foxx> |
i had my appendix rupture, got sepsis and lost the ability to walk for a while when i was young |
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<Foxx> |
scepsis*? |
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<rkdavis> |
then a abdominal reconstruction as i had a 30inch hernia because of the ops |
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<Foxx> |
jebus |
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<rkdavis> |
had septis too |
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<Foxx> |
sounds like the doctors just butchered you |
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<rkdavis> |
yes and no |
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<Foxx> |
i was in a car accident 10 years ago, suffered some decent brain damage, which caused my shakes and seizures |
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<rkdavis> |
i had a problem that looked like ulcer syndrome but wasn't and only found after a gall bladder removed and several exploritory ops and a hunch by my surgeon |
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<rkdavis> |
only 0.00000001% of the population has wat i had and it's normally discovered by age 6 |
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<Foxx> |
but with enough disciplune and "fuck you!" attitude I was able to regain my motor control skills |
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<rkdavis> |
fricking h key on this laptop |
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<rkdavis> |
have to hit it exactly right |
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<Foxx> |
lost a lot of memory function, emotional processing, and crap... |
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<Foxx> |
its why i suck at code so much now |
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<Foxx> |
but hey, what doesnt kill us makes us stranger! |
| [15:02:54] |
<Foxx> |
make the best from the worst, eh? |
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<rkdavis> |
otherwise it don't work -- i burntout on coding an dphones in the 90s -- only really just getting back into them -- for 10 years i refused to have a computer or phone in my house |
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<Foxx> |
with my physical and mental deficits, which dont really show, tech is my art |
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<Foxx> |
tech is not just a tory |
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<Foxx> |
toy* |
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<rkdavis> |
stopped using phones and computers in 91 and only got the internet back in 2002 |
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<Foxx> |
its my sence of not only self expression, but extention of what I am |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<Foxx> |
yeah my brain cant remember stuff, and i cant do math |
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<Foxx> |
PDA! |
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<Foxx> |
with my ham radio i can reach the ends of the world |
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<Foxx> |
with more hardware, i can talk to satellites in space |
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<Foxx> |
if you are bored, just check out some of my hobbies: |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/foxxotg |
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<Foxx> |
just some pics of what i do... |
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<rkdavis> |
nice stuff |
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<Mallium> |
oh awesome. |
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<Mallium> |
debian armel packages DO install, and work! :D |
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<rkdavis> |
so get hacking on the zipit then -- we need .30+ kernel, sound, modded usb for host er hmmmmm external antenna's and a faster processor at least oh and to drive an external crt |
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<Mallium> |
I just installed snownews, which is running pretty nicely. |
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<rkdavis> |
that should keep you busy for a few hours |
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<rkdavis> |
mallium: cool |
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<Mallium> |
I might have just been lucky, but the strength and depth of a debian repository working on the zipit is a very, very cool thing. |
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<Mallium> |
apparently debian armel supports basically all of armv5 and up. |
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<sweetlilmre> |
re |
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<Mallium> |
score. |
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<rkdavis> |
hoi sweetlilmre |
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<sweetlilmre> |
hey, what did I miss? |
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<rkdavis> |
sweetlilmre: you have assimulated another reflasher :) Tox is now up and running on your stuff |
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<sweetlilmre> |
nice, and then there were 3 :) |
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<Mallium> |
and debian packages work! |
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<rkdavis> |
today the channel tomorrow the world one zipit at a time |
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<sweetlilmre> |
Mallium: thought they might, glad they do :) |
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<Mallium> |
this is so awesome. ^^ |
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<Foxx> |
brb, phone |
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<Mallium> |
I'm a debian user primarily, and angstrom's repositories are um, arse. I'm not too fond of bitbake either. |
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<sweetlilmre> |
bitbake is the shiz, just have to bend it to your will :) |
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<sweetlilmre> |
in other news, git repo won't build for me anymore... guile-native... sigh |
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<rkdavis> |
:( |
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<kylea> |
I got mine to build with your patches using stable2009 |
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<rkdavis> |
what was your last working pull? |
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<Mallium> |
I'm spoiled by package managers where if you want something, someone's made it FOR you. :P |
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<Mallium> |
plus, half the applications I've tried to compile have failed at some point. |
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<kylea> |
I don't know guys, I think I destroyed the pad, solder isn't sticking to it anymore |
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<rkdavis> |
:( |
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<lukev> |
sweetlilmre: wazzup dude |
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<Foxx> |
kylea, what kind of solder are you using? |
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<sweetlilmre> |
lukev: hola, just saw my mate on TV :) hehee |
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<kylea> |
rosin core? |
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<Foxx> |
ok, try this: |
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<lukev> |
sweetlilmre: no way! in an ad? |
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<sweetlilmre> |
kylea: an issue i had was a floating ground on rx. if I had the rx line connected and the serial converter not plugged into the PC the z2 would not boot |
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<Foxx> |
take a sharp tip object and scrape all the excess burned flux away gently |
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<sweetlilmre> |
lukev: lindsay was on Top Billing |
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<Foxx> |
then use some lemon juice on a cotton swap to clean it up |
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<Foxx> |
get the pad nice and shiny |
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<lukev> |
sweetlilmre: noice! |
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<kylea> |
I do have my own liquid flux, should I use that instead? |
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<Foxx> |
id try the lemon juice 1st |
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<kylea> |
ok |
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<kylea> |
brb |
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<Foxx> |
you need to clean off all the rosin-core flux 1st |
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<kylea> |
ok |
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<Foxx> |
typical issue with small points on a PCB |
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<Foxx> |
it will look like a clear-brown bleb of crap |
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<kylea> |
I feel like I'm scraping the pcb away... |
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<Foxx> |
it will |
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<Foxx> |
look at this: |
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<Foxx> |
http://picasaweb.google.com/FoxxOTG/TechCrapGizmos#5263800135845083026 |
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<Foxx> |
use the zoom tool, look at the connector at the bottom in the middle of the PCB |
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<Foxx> |
see the buildup of brown gunk? thats rosin core flux buildup |
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<Foxx> |
it will chip/scrape away with little effort |
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<kylea> |
Hmm |
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<Foxx> |
it coats the PCB, making it hard for the solder to flow |
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<Foxx> |
the lemon juice has a decent acidity level to break it down a bit and clean off the pad |
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<Foxx> |
lemon juisce and a pencil eraser is also a good tip to clean off the copper pads to battery leads, like on cell phone batterys and contacts |
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<Foxx> |
juice* |
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<kylea> |
I can't find any lemon juice... I have some sweet and sour sauce ... |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
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<Foxx> |
wont work |
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<Foxx> |
needs to be lemon |
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<Foxx> |
maybe vinegar? |
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<Foxx> |
never tried that though |
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<rkdavis> |
what about coke with lime? |
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<Foxx> |
it has sugar, it will make it worse |
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<Foxx> |
you are looking for a high pH level acid, but not corrosive to copper |
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<Foxx> |
lime may work as well |
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<Foxx> |
lemons are just mustated limes anyways |
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<Foxx> |
mutated* |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<Foxx> |
no, really, lemons are man-made hybrids |
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<rkdavis> |
try industrial drain cleaner :) |
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<Foxx> |
NO! that contains sodium hypchlorate |
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<Foxx> |
that will corrode copper |
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<rkdavis> |
i misread a bottle once -- disolved all the pipes in the house |
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<rkdavis> |
all 3 floors |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, exactly! |
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<kylea> |
I've got some fresh squeeze lemon |
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<Foxx> |
that'd work, all you need is enough for a cotton swab or 2 |
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<Foxx> |
i didnt think the lemon juice thing would actually work until i tried it... |
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<Foxx> |
i thought it was total bullshit, until i tried it on a nickel plated USB connector and it worked |
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<Foxx> |
the solder stuck like shit to a blanket |
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<sweetlilmre> |
nice metaphor :) |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
sweetlilmre: you get my email earlier ? |
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<sweetlilmre> |
haven't checked, looking how |
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<sweetlilmre> |
err now |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<sweetlilmre> |
HAH! fixed guile-native, missing dependency on gettext-native in the recepie |
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<rkdavis> |
:) |
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<kylea> |
I don't know guys, what do you think. Am I screwed? http://xkyle.com/other/DCAM0062.JPG |
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<kylea> |
Have I soldered the pad away? |
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<sweetlilmre> |
rkdavis: I toasted it all when I did the full rebuild :( |
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<Foxx> |
kylea, possibly |
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<sweetlilmre> |
kylea: the middle of the image? looks... not good... |
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<kylea> |
crap |
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<Foxx> |
can you dab some flux in the hole, pretin the wire and get it to stick? |
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<kylea> |
tried that, nothing sticks |
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<rkdavis> |
sweetlilmre: never mind then |
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<Foxx> |
shit |
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<sweetlilmre> |
kylea: look like you pulled the trace off |
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<kylea> |
is the uart handled by a chip? |
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<sweetlilmre> |
rkdavis: building now, should have one for you tomorrow morning |
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<Foxx> |
can you follow the trace itself? |
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<kylea> |
Umm... I think this thing has a couple of layers in it |
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<Foxx> |
just scratch away some of the solder mask to expose the bare copper to the trace and CAREFULLY solder to that |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, i cant see if this pad routes to the top layer in that pic |
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<Foxx> |
it doesnt look like it does |
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<Mallium> |
welp, battery's done. Tonight I've set up snownews, links, dillo, Xfbdev, mplayer, and just about irssi. Once I get sound working, I've got a decent portable media device. |
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<Mallium> |
...another one. |
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<sweetlilmre> |
rkdavis: I have commited SVN, if you pull and bitbake virtual/kernel you can get the new kern and module... |
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<sweetlilmre> |
Mallium: battery? |
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<Foxx> |
Mallium, how big is the mplayer build? |
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<rkdavis> |
sweetlilmre: ok i'll fire up the linux box then |
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<Mallium> |
Foxx, not huge. |
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<Mallium> |
a couple megabytes at most. |
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<Mallium> |
Even with everything, I've only used up about 150mb out of 1gb. |
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<Mallium> |
anyhow, 6am is time to sleep. |
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<Mallium> |
night all. |
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<Foxx> |
night |
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<sweetlilmre> |
rkdavis: night. will test compile tomorrow and let you know. give it a go your side. the wifi patch worked 100% for me. |
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<rkdavis> |
ok will do |
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<kylea> |
So do I really need all the capacitors for this max232 chip? |
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<unrest> |
rkdavis, which wifi patch was he referring to? |
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<kylea> |
unrest: http://openzipit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openzipit/oe/ |
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<kylea> |
rev 19 |
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<rkd> |
test |
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<rkd> |
. |
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<rkd> |
. |
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<Foxx> |
... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
... --- ... |
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<Foxx> |
oh noez! Limp_Trizkit needs saving! |
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<rkdavis> |
heh |
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<rkdavis> |
testing the wifi patch -- so far so good |
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<rkdavis> |
the big thing will be if finch stops causing wifi problems after it goers idle -- again so far so good touch wood |
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<rkdavis> |
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