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<jhaluska> |
Hey T0mW , you around? |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: bbl |
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<jhaluska> |
k |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: I am back, and my Z2 dev computer has been repaired! |
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<T0mW> |
turns out that nothing was wrong with the hardware, the raid10 array would constantly resync on boot and that turned out to be a problem with udev. |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: I now have enough parts to build another dev computer. All the stuff I bought trying to figure out what was wrong with this one. :( |
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<jhaluska> |
Figure out what the problem was? |
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<T0mW> |
yup |
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<T0mW> |
ubuntu |
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<jhaluska> |
The problem was the software? |
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<T0mW> |
ubuntu distro came up with this new strategy of managing drives on a system. Redhat, Mandriva and Suse all followed suit at using udev to scan for drives and dynamically building out the /dev diretory entries. |
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<T0mW> |
problem is that mdadm (md kernel driver) needs time to scan for drives to assemble a raid array. Having udev in the equation slows the array assembly down (postpones it) and the raid10 kernel driver is impatient. |
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<jhaluska> |
Man, I don't think I would have figured that out. |
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<T0mW> |
the raid10 driver runs before the md driver is finished finding all the drive components to an array. The result is that the you get an array that is incomplete |
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<T0mW> |
resync |
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<T0mW> |
I tackled it this weekend. After a lot of work, I could see that the problem was not in the kernel but appeared to be in the operating system files someplace. |
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<T0mW> |
I joined the Linux-RAID mailing list and a fellow there knew exactly what was happening. |
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<T0mW> |
so, "mdadm --grow --bitmap=internal /dev/md3" fixed it. |
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<T0mW> |
adding a bitmap to a raid array mirror device (md3) tells the raid driver the status of the array and forces the raid10 driver to delay until complete assembly is done by the md driver. |
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<jhaluska> |
Of course thats after the hardware purchases ruled out hardware |
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<T0mW> |
pita |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: I was a wee bit upset that what should have been an innocent update of my system software borked the raid5 array... |
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<T0mW> |
It didn't trash it, but, I am very paranoid when an array undergoes a resync. |
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<T0mW> |
... on its own. |
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<jhaluska> |
T0mW: Join #digitize |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: it was a good thing though, got to retest (recertify) all the components in that computer. Also learned that I really wanted to be using raid10 instead of raid5 for my dev box. |
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<steerpike> |
hey T0mW |
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<T0mW> |
yo! |
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<steerpike> |
i keep mixing up whether it was WEP that didn't work or WPA that didn't work |
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<T0mW> |
heh, I haven't tried either. I'm just getting me dev box put back together after being out of service for 4 months. |
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<steerpike> |
cool :) |
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<T0mW> |
I'm anxious to get back to the Z2 stuff. |
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<steerpike> |
^_^ |
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<T0mW> |
Of course, I have a date wednesday night with a woman for coffee, so, that may change my plans a bit? |
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<steerpike> |
oh, that doesn't sound good for us :S |
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<T0mW> |
heh |
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<jhaluska> |
steerpike: WEP |
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<steerpike> |
jhaluska: so you got it to work with WPA/2? |
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<jhaluska> |
steerpike: Nope, but I haven't tried either. |
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<steerpike> |
how long has it been since you last tried it? |
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<jhaluska> |
WEP? |
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<steerpike> |
on zipit |
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<jhaluska> |
hmm months ago? |
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<steerpike> |
you've done nothing since? |
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<jhaluska> |
Pretty much |
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<steerpike> |
lol |
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<jhaluska> |
I haven't finished rebuilding my laptop.. been busy and lazy |
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<switchcat> |
I just ordered a new laptop |
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<jhaluska> |
What kind? |
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<switchcat> |
uhm compaq |
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<switchcat> |
$278 + tax |
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<jhaluska> |
Thats not bad |
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<switchcat> |
yeah there was a live.com 40% off of hp.com cashback deal. |
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<switchcat> |
so I'm getting $185 or so back from M$/live.com |
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<jhaluska> |
Thats pretty nice |
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<steerpike> |
switchcat: is the sale still available? |
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<switchcat> |
steerpike - nope, black friday only |
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<steerpike> |
oh well.. mail-in rebates suck anyway |
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<switchcat> |
it was really difficult to get into, too... the website is overwhelmed |
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<switchcat> |
and it's not a mail-in rebate |
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<steerpike> |
oh |
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<switchcat> |
it's a live.com cashback deal it's all online |
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<steerpike> |
i see |
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<switchcat> |
you search for the store via live.com search click on the appropriate link, go to the site and buy through that |
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<steerpike> |
cool |
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<switchcat> |
they have all sorts of deals.. like stuff like 25% off ebay purchases (to a maximum of $200, I think).. |
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<switchcat> |
and you can earn up to $2500 a year in live.com cashback I think |
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<steerpike> |
wow |
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<steerpike> |
so it's not just black friday? |
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<steerpike> |
i guess they'll do anything to get people to use their search engine lol |
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<switchcat> |
yeah only the 40% off HP.com purchases was black friday (normally it's 5%) |
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<switchcat> |
each store/website is different in the amounts |
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<steerpike> |
nice |
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<switchcat> |
speaking of which I should really go to lowes and go get some gift cards so I can get 20-30% on my money |
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<jhaluska> |
You can do that? |
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<jhaluska> |
I spend a lot at Lowes |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
mmm, Lowes or Home Depot, or any tool store? |
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* |
g1powermac_PB got a whole welding rig just recently |
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<jhaluska> |
g1powermac_PB: Do you live in NJ? |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
no, but I did for most of my life |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
I left NJ about 5 years ago |
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<jhaluska> |
gtg, catch you guys later. |
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<steerpike> |
hrm.. tigerdirect has a live.com 15% off computer sale |
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<steerpike> |
too bad they suck |
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<switchcat> |
g1powermac_PB - currently Lowes has a 4-day sale ending today. For each $100 worth of gift cards you buy, you can get an additional $20 in gift cards with a mail in rebate. (Thats like getting 20% on your money) in addition to that apparently there was some sort of $10 off coupon that was appearing on each of the register receipts.. so it's more like 30% on your money. And Lowes gift cards have no fees and no expiration dat |
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<switchcat> |
btw, you can get up to $300 in gift cards for this, so you can get $60 back (so, if you get 3 different gift cards, you can ring each up separately for an addition $10 off coupon on each receipt.. making it +30$) |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
hmm, nice |
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