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<echelon> |
eh.. i've never seen a z1 in person |
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<nn> |
i think my favourite device keypad was the sidekick 2, except the layout sucked and they needed a really thin metal layer over the keyboard to key it from coming unglued |
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<echelon> |
and the original doesn't have a color screen |
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<nn> |
thats not a big issue really |
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<nn> |
know much about the hw? |
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<nn> |
particularly how is the wifi chipset wired? gpio or other bus? i need a firmware image for a gpio wired chipset that i can transplant into my driver for the uclinux/psp port |
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<echelon> |
http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/?page_id=23 :) |
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<nn> |
seen that- doesnt give much of a clue how the wifi chipset is wired tho |
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<unrest> |
good morning you 2 =) |
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<nn> |
unrest: morning |
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<unrest> |
if i were you, i'd get a z2. the z1's slow as hell (90mhz and 2mb ram iirc) and you have to hardware hack it to use flash cards.. |
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<nn> |
ahh |
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<nn> |
debating just spending the 37$ on parts for psp hacking tho |
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<nn> |
could get a touch layer and required bits to support it and multiplexing keyboard and touch info over the serial port |
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<nn> |
maybe even find appropriate socket for adding a pass-through connector so i can use touch/keyboard at the same time as the video out cable |
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<echelon> |
unrest: hey :) |
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<ChocoTaco> |
Hi, I tried to make an account at the Trac site mentioned in the topic. I got an error when it tried to send my password (it's complaining of no route to host when connecting to its SMTP server) so now I have no way of getting a password. Any ideas? |
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<ChocoTaco> |
holy crap I'm in the IRC logs already |
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<nn> |
bbl |
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<ChocoTaco> |
Anyone know what LCD controller the zipit uses? |
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<ChocoTaco> |
zipit Z2 I mean |
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<GPSFan> |
ChocoTaco: it's built into the PXA270 CPU. |
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<ChocoTaco> |
GPSFan: thanks, I'll research that |
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<ChocoTaco> |
trying to figure out if it would be possible to drive an 800x480 LCD instead of the stock one |
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<GPSFan> |
the PXA270 controller can drive up to 800 x 600. see Chapter 7 pf the PXA27x user manual. |
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<GPSFan> |
now whether the pins are all there on the z2 is another question. |
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<ChocoTaco> |
well, I suppose I'll find out when my Z2 arrives :D |
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<jhaluska> |
GPSFan: That's cool! |
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<ChocoTaco> |
it's insane how cheap the Z2's are...seems to me that it would cost at least 5 times that much to get a comparable embedded platform for playing around with |
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<ChocoTaco> |
if you try to build a comparable gumstix package for example |
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<jhaluska> |
ChocoTaco: Which one? |
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<ChocoTaco> |
and someone even has JTAG going on it |
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<ChocoTaco> |
that's just nuts |
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<jhaluska> |
ChocoTaco: You mean $40 |
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<jhaluska> |
? |
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<ChocoTaco> |
$40 for the Z2 yeah |
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<jhaluska> |
Well they might be selling it at a loss |
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<ChocoTaco> |
why would the sell them at a loss? there is no subscription service for it |
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<ChocoTaco> |
is there? |
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<jhaluska> |
Yes there is |
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<ChocoTaco> |
ah. |
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<jhaluska> |
I think it is excessive, they want like $10 a month |
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<jhaluska> |
for IM |
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<jhaluska> |
Over your own wifi |
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<ChocoTaco> |
I feel bad now for hurting the company... but I doubt I'll be getting a subscription for it |
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<jhaluska> |
I don't. I think it's a bad business decision, they should have sold it at cost I think. |
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<ChocoTaco> |
I just hate to make any company regret opening their device up for hackers |
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<jhaluska> |
The problem is that they should try to make it so opening it up to hackers helps them and not hurts them. |
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<jhaluska> |
I dunno, like making apps for it |
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<ChocoTaco> |
yeah... selling their device for $40 is not going to help them |
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<ChocoTaco> |
I would venture a guess that nobody is really interested in the Z2 other than hackers |
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<jhaluska> |
It is if they can get a years subscription out of it. |
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<ChocoTaco> |
maybe if they released some apps for it, it would be useful to end-users |
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<jhaluska> |
yeah |
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<jhaluska> |
If they could sell games for it, that would work too |
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<jhaluska> |
Maybe a side scroller or some other silly games |
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<ChocoTaco> |
10 bucks a month for a wifi-only IM-only device doesn't seem too attractive |
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<jhaluska> |
Yeah, thats the way I see it. |
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<jhaluska> |
Originally they marketed it as no subscription needed |
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<jhaluska> |
And I liked that. |
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<jhaluska> |
Do that and charge for games, and it would be a good compromise |
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<switchcat> |
and/or develop other revenue streams |
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<switchcat> |
like they have streaming radio... |
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<switchcat> |
they could set it up so that you could find and purchase/download songs and albums played on the streaming radio, etc. etc. |
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<jhaluska> |
That would be neat |
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<echelon> |
hi :) |
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<jhaluska> |
Hi Mr echelon |
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<echelon> |
^_^ |
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