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<runpain2> |
can some one help me with a HP Pavilion dv6747cl laptop atheros 5006 wireless driver i am using Ubuntu CE 8.04 as operating system |
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<echelon> |
hey guys |
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<Foxx-> |
hey hey |
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<Foxx-> |
oh whats with this? |
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<Foxx> |
mmmm, better |
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<echelon> |
what's new? |
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<Foxx> |
tons of fun |
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<Foxx> |
finally got my laptop fixed up, so im trying to catch up on my projects |
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<Foxx> |
just got in from building an antenna |
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<Foxx> |
had some tech buddies from my show over a few weeks ago for some techno-terror |
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<echelon> |
what.. breaking wpa's with your graphics cards? |
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<Foxx> |
my graphics card blew up |
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<Foxx> |
literaly |
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<echelon> |
ah |
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<Foxx> |
all the caps blew |
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<Foxx> |
im not a gamer, at all |
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<Foxx> |
period |
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<Foxx> |
i play NES... |
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<echelon> |
heh |
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<Foxx> |
i have pics of the meetup if you want to take a look |
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<Foxx> |
mainly just did some epic wifi stuff |
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<Foxx> |
played with some bluetooth |
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<Foxx> |
got on the radio and chattered with random people |
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<Foxx> |
did some video scanning |
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<Foxx> |
did some linuxy stuffs |
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<Foxx> |
i call it techno-terror because when people see us they tend to get scared |
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<Foxx> |
since all the stuff we build id homebrew, so battries + wires +?? = bombs to most people |
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<Foxx> |
is* |
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<Foxx> |
i was trying to do some Z2 stuff, but failed as usual |
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<echelon> |
tried to do what? |
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<Foxx> |
anything at all |
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<Foxx> |
my build environment needs to be reinstalled |
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<echelon> |
OE? |
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<Foxx> |
im still learning how to cross compile and such |
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<Foxx> |
yeah |
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<echelon> |
don't bother with OE right now |
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<echelon> |
it's broken |
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<Foxx> |
ive noticed |
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<Foxx> |
but i figured it was me being a dumbass |
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<echelon> |
unless you get T0mW's tarball |
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<Foxx> |
ill have to check that out |
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<Foxx> |
i need to finish my Z1 |
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<Foxx> |
but i cant get the buildroot working |
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<echelon> |
i'm just using buildroot + z2shell hack |
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<Foxx> |
some of the URLs to the files have changed, and i dont know where in the scripting to change it |
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<echelon> |
for what packages? |
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<Foxx> |
id be more than happy to host it locally, or even online |
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<Foxx> |
i cant recall |
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<echelon> |
i just built wireless-tools on buildroot so far |
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<Foxx> |
it would be really cool if someone could make a CD with all the Z1 packages and such for buildroot |
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<Foxx> |
id be willing to host the .iso |
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<Foxx> |
i just dont have enough linx savvy to build it myself |
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<echelon> |
why not just make a tarball? |
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<Foxx> |
for the Z1? |
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<echelon> |
instead of making an iso |
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<Foxx> |
it would be pretty big... |
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<echelon> |
unless you're planning on distributing it |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, i was |
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<echelon> |
ah ok |
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<Foxx> |
or was at least offering it |
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<Foxx> |
so people could build off the CD |
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<Foxx> |
instead of wget |
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<echelon> |
that's how T0mW does it |
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<Foxx> |
from CD? |
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<echelon> |
*did it |
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<Foxx> |
yeah, he used wget |
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<echelon> |
no, just uploaded a tarball of everything |
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<Foxx> |
thing is, the URLs changed |
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<Foxx> |
the Z1 still excites me |
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<echelon> |
of course he didn't have the package source.. that'd be crazy |
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<echelon> |
have you thought about gentoo-embedded? |
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<Foxx> |
for the Z1? |
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<echelon> |
z2 |
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<Foxx> |
or Z2 |
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<Foxx> |
nope |
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<echelon> |
i don't even own a z1 |
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<Foxx> |
not a gentoo fan |
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<Foxx> |
too over my head right now |
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<Foxx> |
i like debian, despise ubuntu |
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<echelon> |
well, basically you're doing the same thing with oe/buildroot/etc |
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<echelon> |
building everything from source |
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<Foxx> |
i dont do any real embedded linux building |
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<Foxx> |
so... |
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<Foxx> |
still learning |
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<echelon> |
dang, brb |
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<Foxx> |
from a scale from 1-10, 1 being you use ubuntu "cuz leenuks r0x" and 10 being you have code in the kernel |
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<Foxx> |
im probably a 3 |
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<echelon> |
back |
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<echelon> |
i use slackware |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
Foxx, despise ubuntu? why, out of curiousity? |
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<echelon> |
because ubuntu has been the death of linux |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
hmmm, in what way? |
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<echelon> |
it's as if you belong to a privileged class by using ubuntu |
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<echelon> |
when it should be the other way around |
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<echelon> |
just look at the scratch-box installation page |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
strange, I've never seen that (and I've adopted ubuntu on most of my machines). I just use it cuz it seems to have the most package support |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
I used to be a die-hard gentoo, but they lost their bearing |
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<dpoirot> |
Hi there and welcome back! |
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<echelon> |
:) |
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<dpoirot> |
(Kermit is my hero) |
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<dpoirot> |
Ubuntu is the crack cocaine of Linux |
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<dpoirot> |
...now that I have your attention... |
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<echelon> |
eh, in what way? |
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<dpoirot> |
...anyone notice OE is broken? |
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<dpoirot> |
;-) |
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<echelon> |
yeah |
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<dpoirot> |
just kidding... been reading the logs |
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<echelon> |
:P |
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<dpoirot> |
I guess that I am needing a scratchbox |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
HAHA, crack. knew I'd like it.... |
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<dpoirot> |
I want the kernel, bustbox and X11 |
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<dpoirot> |
^bust^busy^ |
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<echelon> |
see.. http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/docbook/0.9.8/installdoc.html#AEN134 |
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<dpoirot> |
...saw you chatting about it. |
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<echelon> |
why would any project have distro-specific instructions? |
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<dpoirot> |
Ubuntu is sweet in a VMware client |
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<dpoirot> |
yum vs. app-get vs. rpm |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
yeah, I've been battling centos/yum and hate it |
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<dpoirot> |
get thee to VMware... |
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<echelon> |
users should figure it out for themselves.. they have no instructions for building from source |
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<dpoirot> |
"It was hard to write, it should be hard to use..." |
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<echelon> |
my distro doesn't do package dependency checking :) |
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<dpoirot> |
DrMC: http://www.bagside.com/bagvapp/index.html |
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<dpoirot> |
pre-built yummy goodness |
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<drmikecrowe_> |
dpoirot, thanks. helping a friend who's data-center only supports centos/windows. bleck... |
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<dpoirot> |
I am sick... I have WinXP -> VMware -> CentOS -> POKY -> ARM9 app |
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<dpoirot> |
the POKY OE includes QEMU emulator support... |
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<dpoirot> |
<echelon> are you really using slackware? |
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<echelon> |
yeah? |
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<dpoirot> |
didn't know that was still going... I started with that when the distros first started coming out. my first linux was 0.97c |
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<echelon> |
still standing :) |
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<dpoirot> |
given the current deadness of OE, what is the viability of scratchbox, given that I want X11, networking and little else? |
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<echelon> |
it should have it all |
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<echelon> |
networking works fine without any distro |
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<dpoirot> |
I have to compile an app on the development host, SCP to the Zipit2, SSH the app and have it display locally or remotely... |
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<dpoirot> |
echelon, have you looked at the pre-built CodeSourcery compiler? |
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<echelon> |
nope |
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<echelon> |
looks interesting |
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<dpoirot> |
saves hours of CPU... Just wondering if scratchbox knew anything about it... |
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<dpoirot> |
its in OE but not widely used apparently... |
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<echelon> |
after i build whatever app in buildroot and scp it to the sdcard's mount dir, i just change the z2shell.sh and have it copied over to the /bin/ at boot |
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<dpoirot> |
what? no shell on the z2? |
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<echelon> |
what? |
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<dpoirot> |
do you copy and then reboot to run? |
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<echelon> |
no, i just change the z2shell script so that it does this everytime at boot |
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<dpoirot> |
Ohhhh... |
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<echelon> |
you don't want to copy over the apps everytime you boot manually |
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<echelon> |
i'm thinking about writing a ncurses front-end for wpa_supplicant |
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<dpoirot> |
that would be mighty handy... |
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<echelon> |
i discovered that the wireless card itself is pretty crappy.. it's wpa_supplicant that keeps it stable |
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<echelon> |
you can test it yourself, just disable wpa_supplicant and just use iwconfig |
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<echelon> |
it doesn't take very long for it to become disassociated with AP |
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<dpoirot> |
I haven't seen a problem with the way I use wireless. |
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<dpoirot> |
I still haven't got wpa_supplicant working... |
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<echelon> |
you use wep/wpa? |
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<dpoirot> |
been trying... I have an adhoc connection right now... |
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<echelon> |
i don't think they work |
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<echelon> |
yeah, ad-hoc's the way to go, but that means you can't use the wireless to do anything else on your pc :\ |
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<echelon> |
unless your card allows you to create two interfaces |
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<dpoirot> |
nope. hardwared to the wall, wireless to the Z2 |
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<echelon> |
you're still only using it at work? |
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<dpoirot> |
my work is my life... |
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<echelon> |
heh |
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<dpoirot> |
scratchbox doesn't like to install... off getting the tarball now... |
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<dpoirot> |
scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.44csn-glibc2.3-1.0.3 seems to be the CodeSourcery compiler... |
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<dpoirot> |
"Apophis'... geeze, are they Star Gate fans, or what? |
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<echelon> |
heh |
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<echelon> |
i'm thinking about getting a magicjack |
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<echelon> |
http://magicjackhacks.com/ |
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<echelon> |
can someone recommend a cheap home insurance provider? |
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