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[01:57:47] <pturing_> howdy
[01:58:01] <pturing_> anyone alive in here? :)
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[09:07:07] <jhaluska> Mr Crowe
[09:09:36] <drmikecrowe> jhaluska, what's up?
[09:09:50] <jhaluska> I think I'm having a midlife crisis
[09:09:58] <jhaluska> Which means I might only live to my mid fifties
[09:10:14] <drmikecrowe> Morning all (for me...)
[09:10:25] <drmikecrowe> LOL -- how old are you now?
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[09:11:15] <jhaluska> Almost 28
[09:12:29] <drmikecrowe> a kid....
[09:12:31] <drmikecrowe> :D
[09:13:04] <drmikecrowe> A real midlife crisis is having your son start to date girls you used to look at....
[09:13:22] <jhaluska> He's into older women?
[09:14:02] <drmikecrowe> nah, just turned 16. thinks he's invincible, you know.
[09:21:44] <jhaluska> Reminds me of the old Mark Twain saying
[09:22:35] <jhaluska> well googling, show's he didn't say it
[09:23:23] <jhaluska> But it goes like this "When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man learned in seven years."
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[09:45:31] <echelon> sooo
[09:47:54] <jhaluska> sooo what?
[09:49:25] <echelon> stop driving away possible zipit buyers
[09:52:03] <jhaluska> :(
[09:54:38] <echelon> it's not useless if you don't subscribe for the service :P
[09:59:56] <jhaluska> It isn't?
[09:59:07] <jhaluska> I guess it could be used as a paper weight
[09:59:15] <jhaluska> Maybe a door stop
[09:59:33] <echelon> just being able to ssh is enough :P
[10:00:04] <jhaluska> You can ssh into it with it unhacked?
[10:01:45] <g1powermac_PB> you just need an sd card
[10:01:52] <g1powermac_PB> loaded with the right software
[10:02:00] <jhaluska> And if you don't have that?
[10:02:24] <g1powermac_PB> go get one
[10:03:28] <jhaluska> I do have one.
[10:04:10] <jhaluska> But without hacking it, I didn't find it useful once the subscription went out.
[10:04:14] <echelon> if you boot from an sd card, it doesn't effect your z2 firmware
[10:04:30] <jhaluska> I know that.
[10:04:43] <jhaluska> I have it booting from an SD card
[10:04:52] <echelon> so what's the problem?
[10:04:54] <jhaluska> I don't have the wireless working on it yet.
[10:05:07] <echelon> are you still trying to use wpa?
[10:05:35] <jhaluska> I just have a wep 64
[10:05:52] <echelon> oh, then you don't even need wpa_supplican
[10:06:03] <g1powermac_PB> wep does NOT work with the hacks at this time
[10:06:14] <echelon> it doesn't?
[10:06:17] <g1powermac_PB> nope
[10:06:44] <jhaluska> oh hmm
[10:06:48] <echelon> iwconfig eth0 essid <whatever> key <wep key> ?
[10:06:56] <g1powermac_PB> not positive on wpa, as I've never tried it with the hacks
[10:07:11] <g1powermac_PB> echelon: it doesn't work, I've done multiple things to try to get it working
[10:07:27] <echelon> well no wonder
[10:07:51] <g1powermac_PB> I figure the zipit app does some funky stuff to get wep working on their app
[10:07:56] <echelon> i tried some of my neighbor's access points that i had broken the wep keys for
[10:08:09] <echelon> i thought it wasn't associating because of the range
[10:08:58] <echelon> i don't use any encryption on my AP anyway :)
[10:09:00] <jhaluska> I think my IT guy would have a hissy fit if I turned off the encryption at work.
[10:09:16] <echelon> i thought you set up an ad-hoc?
[10:09:49] <echelon> oh yeah, you use a windows box
[10:10:10] <echelon> did you enable internet connection sharing?
[10:10:37] <jhaluska> Are you talking to me?
[10:10:42] <echelon> yeah
[10:10:50] <jhaluska> oh, I
[10:11:03] <jhaluska> I'm not using ad-hoc and I'm on linux
[10:11:07] <jhaluska> So I was confused.
[10:11:31] <jhaluska> But I am the admin of the engineering network.
[10:13:08] <echelon> if you have a box that has both ethernet and wireless, just set up ad-hoc
[10:13:38] <jhaluska> I don't
[10:13:46] <jhaluska> Unless I bring my laptop in.
[10:14:02] <jhaluska> I'll have to bring it home.
[10:14:16] <jhaluska> I mean the Z2 home and play with it there.
[10:14:13] <echelon> are you at work most times of the day? ^_-
[10:14:24] <jhaluska> I'm at work now :)
[10:14:44] <jhaluska> Hence why my nick is my name not my handle
[10:14:56] <jhaluska> I idle on IRC to get help with the linux system administration I'm learning and coding stuff.
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[13:42:09] <c0deman> .
[13:42:30] <Foxx> oi
[13:42:56] <c0deman> whats new guys ?
[13:43:18] <Foxx> not much, to be honest
[13:44:23] <Foxx> there is a 3d graphics demo on the zipit developer wiki, but i havent tried it
[13:44:09] <c0deman> ya i just ordered a few zipits today a little behind on it ..
[13:44:23] <jhaluska> Foxx: Really? 3d?
[13:44:30] <Foxx> i think so
[13:44:31] <jhaluska> Do they have a video of it?
[13:44:42] <Foxx> no, they have the download though
[13:44:48] <jhaluska> I got a new development system in for a Intel Atom system
[13:45:56] <Foxx> http://linux.zipitwireless.com/wiki/SDL_Example
[13:47:31] <jhaluska> I'm not sure what that is
[13:48:09] <jhaluska> I find the idea of doing low end graphics on it intriguing tho :)
[13:48:35] <Foxx> SDL is like a baseline graphics subsystem
[13:49:00] <Foxx> should be able to handle a GUI at some point
[13:49:24] <Foxx> although dont quote me on that, i dont keep up with Z2 development work
[13:49:27] <c0deman> lots of sdl stuff out there
[13:49:47] <jhaluska> Why don't they come here more? :)
[13:49:56] <Foxx> my laptop crapped out, and took all my dev work with it
[13:49:35] <jhaluska> oh crap, everything I say here is being put online.
[13:49:36] <Foxx> i need to wait for a new motherboard before (in the mail now) before i can get back to mucking around blindly with the Z2
[13:49:40] <jhaluska> Google is going to get me.
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[13:51:47] <c0deman> im a little late in to this does anyone have the pinout for that connector on the back ?
[13:52:59] <Foxx> its on http://linux.zipitwireless.com/ however you need to sign up and accept their agreement
[13:53:29] <Foxx> we cant just hand it out :/
[13:53:36] <Foxx> but it is available
[13:53:50] <c0deman> found it
[13:54:45] <c0deman> you the same Foxx from the rm4100 irc ?
[13:54:55] <Foxx> i was just about tk ask you the same
[13:54:58] <Foxx> yes i am
[13:54:00] <Foxx> small world!
[13:54:06] <jah80> rm4100?
[13:54:23] <Foxx> how have you been c0deman?
[13:54:39] <c0deman> working to much
[13:54:39] <Foxx> i just bricked my RM4100, but got a spare off ebay
[13:54:55] <Foxx> i had a bad firmware flash :/
[13:55:15] <Foxx> i hate that damn SST FWH IC
[13:55:43] <Foxx> f'ing thing was discontinued and disavowed, so I cant get any support for it
[13:56:06] <c0deman> ya i have a device programmer makes it easy
[13:56:10] <Foxx> i have a really nice Willem EEPROM programmewr, but it cant write to that ONE f'ing chip!
[13:56:52] <Foxx> i have an LPC programmer from my xbox days, im going to retrofit that and see if i can get that working
[13:57:11] <c0deman> ya should not be to hard to mod
[13:57:18] <Foxx> i ordered some sample FWH ICs that are compatable, but have different pinouts
[13:57:36] <jah80> You guys are cool. :)
[13:57:59] <Foxx> so what ever happened to the RM4100 stuff?
[13:58:02] <Foxx> gave up on it?
[16:20:08] <echelon> lol, i doubt you can put the card in monitor mode with this crap driver
[16:23:12] <echelon> nope
[16:25:45] <echelon> most you can do is put it in Ad-hoc mode
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[20:23:04] <echelon> hey g1powermac_PB
[20:28:10] <g1powermac_PB> hey
[20:31:45] <echelon> once we finally get a release, i propose we do a counter project, like the zipit counter project
[20:32:02] <echelon> i mean, like the linux counter project
[20:32:27] <echelon> because i'd like to know how many people actually own a zipit, and are hacking it
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[23:19:29] <echelon> http://www.darkreading.com/blog.asp?blog_sectionid=403&doc_id=164939
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