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[01:18:36] <_switchcat_> thats what you keep saying
[01:19:08] <echelon> :D
[01:19:20] <echelon> get your sdcard yet?
[02:19:54] <_switchcat_> uhm no it should be here today
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[02:24:32] <switchcat> I know what toy/tool I want to buy next but I can't find a supported piece of hardware. :(
[02:28:12] <switchcat> I need to find more IM bots to play with
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[11:46:04] <switchcat> w00t my microSD card with miniSD adapter & more is here
[11:50:08] <switchcat> okay my zipit knows the card is there, it detected it and said "database ready"
[11:50:13] <switchcat> whatever that means
[11:57:16] <echelon> that's just for your mp3's i think
[11:57:40] <echelon> you can put it to better use with the shell hack/openembedded
[12:19:18] <switchcat> yeah I'm not gonna use OE or anothr alternative kernel until there's a decently working binary distro, but I definitely want to try the shell hack so I can get various things working under it
[12:38:25] <echelon> the shell hack doesn't use any alternative kernel
[12:41:30] <switchcat> yes I know that is why I said I was gonna do the shell hack but not the OE
[12:58:56] <echelon> so you're going to get buildroot?
[13:09:35] <switchcat> I have to research all this stuff now
[13:20:57] <echelon> http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/?page_id=115
[13:23:12] <switchcat> is that more recent/updated than whats on linux.zipitwireless.com?
[13:23:54] <echelon> linux.zipitwireless.com tells you to get openembedded
[13:24:36] <echelon> those are the instructions for buildroot
[13:31:02] <switchcat> hmmm if I'm just going to install the shell hack and the links hack it looks like I dont really need buildroot
[13:34:21] <echelon> is that all you need?
[13:34:47] <echelon> btw, the ssh client on the z2 shell hack is called 'dbclient'
[13:34:56] <echelon> had a hell of a time figuring that out
[13:50:59] <switchcat> well ssh will do me pretty well.. with that, I can get to my email, and to an irc client if I need it, and with links I can browse the web
[13:51:39] <switchcat> it would be nice to have a graphical browser, but I suspect that that is more than I personally would be capable of setting up
[13:52:42] <switchcat> I could use a text editor..
[13:57:39] <switchcat> I could use nethack, but I hate playing the text version, I much prefer graphical tiles
[14:09:14] <switchcat> it would be nice to have a yahoo chat and an AIM that archives messages in the same way as the ones on my main system do...
[14:09:25] <switchcat> er, yahoo messenger, not chat
[14:09:51] <switchcat> but I use gyache-improved which is an X program, and pidgin/gaim
[16:08:08] <echelon> never heard of gyache? ^_-
[16:36:26] <echelon> oh, yahoo
[16:36:48] <echelon> you can just use bitlbee
[16:38:05] <echelon> of course it's only for text chat
[16:38:42] <echelon> if someone actually works out the audio, you could probably do voice chat aswell
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[20:09:49] <switchcat> gyach was the original program (g yahoo chat) then there were forks, gyachi and gyache
[20:09:18] <switchcat> currently gyache-improved is the best one
[20:09:42] <switchcat> thats the best yahoo messenger/chat client I have found
[20:09:55] <switchcat> it does the webcams and everything pretty much
[20:29:31] <echelon> writing open source clients for proprietary networks/protocols seems a bit backwards
[20:29:52] <echelon> you're just encouraging them to go on with what they're doing
[20:30:02] <echelon> instead people should be creating alternatives
[20:30:43] <echelon> sip/aix is more than capable of handling video/voice
[20:43:25] <switchcat> no offense but yahoo's been about it since the mid 90s, and has both run their shop on open source AND supported open source development
[20:44:13] <switchcat> anyways I go where the people are
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