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<Foxx> |
[10:17:PM] <echelon> would it be possible to mod the connector of a regular analog mic to make it work with the zipit? |
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<Foxx> |
more than likely |
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<Foxx> |
the Nintendo DS has the a similar if not exact same headset jack |
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<Foxx> |
if you know someone with one, try it |
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<Foxx> |
otherwise a connector can be made from a PCB |
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<Foxx> |
its possible, but its one of those 'is the effort worth it?' moments |
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<jhaluska> |
wb switchcat |
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<switchcat> |
danke |
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<echelon> |
i got my sd card! :D |
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<jhaluska> |
Huzzah! |
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<echelon> |
now.. lets start hackin |
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<echelon> |
how come it doesn't do a hard reboot? |
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<echelon> |
i forgot to edit the wpa_supplicant.conf |
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<echelon> |
uh oh.. what fs should the sd card be formatted to? |
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<jhaluska> |
I don't know, don't know and I think FAT16 |
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<echelon> |
it's working :D |
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<jhaluska> |
Do you have wifi working too? |
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<echelon> |
jhaluska: 1 sec |
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<echelon> |
jhaluska: yup! :D |
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<jhaluska> |
oh, hmm |
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<jhaluska> |
I want that image! |
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<echelon> |
image? |
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<jhaluska> |
Well, I haven't gotten everything compiling on my system yet, been a bit busy |
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<echelon> |
this.. http://linux.zipitwireless.com/attachment/wiki/Z2Shell/z2_shell_v2.zip?format=raw ? |
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<echelon> |
ah ok |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, you using the z2shell hack? |
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<echelon> |
yeah |
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<g1powermac> |
ahh, you are |
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<g1powermac> |
one thing with the wireless stuff, wep is b0rked |
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<jhaluska> |
echelon: What is that link to? |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac: no problem for me |
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<echelon> |
jhaluska: the z2 shell hack |
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<g1powermac> |
wpa seems to work and non encrypted networks work, but not wep |
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<jhaluska> |
g1powermac: Oh |
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<echelon> |
i don't use wep/wpa on my router anyway |
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<jhaluska> |
I guess I could disable WEP or change to WPA |
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<jhaluska> |
Or try it out at home. heh |
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<echelon> |
how the heck do i enter numbers?? |
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<echelon> |
on the z2shell |
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<g1powermac> |
jhaluska, yea, I think there might be something in the zipit app that gets wep to work properly |
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<echelon> |
ah, you have to hold down alt |
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<g1powermac> |
yup |
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<g1powermac> |
jhaluska, as it works when booted into the zipit app |
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<echelon> |
wth.. there's no ssh client? |
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<echelon> |
just a daemon? |
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<g1powermac> |
yea, you can ssh into the zipit |
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<jhaluska> |
Well, I haven't had much of a chance to play with it. I dunno why |
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<g1powermac> |
the z2hack is very primitive |
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<echelon> |
there's something better? |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, its really just meant to get to the guts of the system |
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<g1powermac> |
there's been developments on it |
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<echelon> |
where? |
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<g1powermac> |
T0mW is messing with using openembedded |
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<echelon> |
yeah, that's what i'm going to install next on the pc |
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<g1powermac> |
I have been messing with building a system ontop of the current zipit system |
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* |
g1powermac is staying away from OE, its a bit of a mess |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, you can see the work I've done at zipit2system.sf.net |
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<echelon> |
but i can use OE to build apps to be used with the existing z2 system? |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, my eventual goal is to replace the system on the zipit with a custom one, so you don't even need to boot off a sd card after install |
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<g1powermac> |
no, you can use buildroot for that |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac: i thought you couldn't because the wifi drivers are closed src? |
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<g1powermac> |
OE is a total environment, if you want to just make a cross compilation toolchain, buildroot is easier |
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<g1powermac> |
there's been progress on that front |
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<jhaluska> |
g1powermac: How far along are you with your goal? |
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<g1powermac> |
but that is an issue at this time |
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<g1powermac> |
jhaluska, I have booted custom kernels directly off the zipit using the bootloader's serial downloader |
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<echelon> |
so you can't adjust the brightness on the z2shell? |
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<g1powermac> |
not to my knowledge |
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<g1powermac> |
jhaluska, once I get usb gadget working, I might try writing my custom kernel to flash to see if it boots |
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<jhaluska> |
Cool :) |
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<echelon> |
hmm.. screen doesn't turn off after the lid is closed |
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<echelon> |
no acpi support |
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<echelon> |
oh crap.. how do i ctrl + c?? |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, '. . .' + c |
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<echelon> |
ah thanks |
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<echelon> |
heh |
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<echelon> |
can you create multiple virtual terminals? |
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<echelon> |
need vbetool to turn off the screen |
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<echelon> |
and acpi to detect when the lid is closed |
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<echelon> |
i just get striped white lines across the screen when it's in sleep mode |
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<echelon> |
on the z2shell |
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<echelon> |
is it the same for everyone else? |
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<g1powermac> |
yea |
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<echelon> |
kk |
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<g1powermac> |
like I said, its really rudimentary |
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<echelon> |
is there a list for all keys? |
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<echelon> |
what's the tab key? |
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<echelon> |
so where am i supposed to place the misc directory from cvs? |
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<g1powermac> |
the misc directory contains configuration files and other things to build stuff for the zipit |
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<g1powermac> |
read the readme thats in it |
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<echelon> |
ah kk |
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<echelon> |
cool, the z1 was able to run linux pda |
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<echelon> |
would be nice to add nfs support |
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<switchcat> |
linux pda? |
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<echelon> |
it's a distro for pda's |
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<echelon> |
btw, there's no source tarball for buildroot |
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<echelon> |
they have snapshots, but what version is the buildroot.config file for? |
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<echelon> |
nvm.. i'll just use the svn |
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<echelon> |
i could've sworn you guys said the zipit had an atheros |
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<echelon> |
now i find out it's a marvell? |
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<switchcat> |
sue us. |
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<echelon> |
ok, the patch is failing |
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<echelon> |
what version is the buildroot .cfg file for? |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac? |
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<g1powermac> |
umm, how is it failing? |
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<echelon> |
nvm, i said to apply the patch anyway |
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<echelon> |
Patch failed! Please fix 700-nios2-6.6.patch! |
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<echelon> |
make: *** [/tmp/buildroot/toolchain_build_arm/gdb-6.6/.patched] Error 1Patch failed! Please fix 700-nios2-6.6.patch! |
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<echelon> |
make: *** [/tmp/buildroot/toolchain_build_arm/gdb-6.6/.patched] Error 1e3Patch failed! Please fix 700-nios2-6.6.patch! |
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<echelon> |
oops |
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<g1powermac> |
huh |
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<g1powermac> |
try a build root back from april |
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<g1powermac> |
thats what I'm using |
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<echelon> |
i'm just trying one of the snapshots |
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<echelon> |
going alright so far |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac: have you been able to build an ssh client? |
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<echelon> |
would it be possible to play videos on the zipit in the future? |
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<echelon> |
something like rockbox |
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<echelon> |
my mp3 player also has an arm processor, and it wasn't intended to play videos.. rockbox was able to do it :) |
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<echelon> |
how the hell is this thing supposed to work.. even after i press 'n' it says "patching file ..." |
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<echelon> |
stupid buildroot |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac: they only have snapshots back from july-21 |
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<echelon> |
g1powermac: are you sure the buildroot.config file from misc/ is for a snapshot from april? |
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<g1powermac> |
echelon, thats what I used, its not so much a config for that time, its more that they broke something with these later ones |
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<g1powermac> |
the biggest problem I compiled was qtopia, though I never tested it to see if it worked |
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<g1powermac> |
err, s/problem/program |
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<g1powermac> |
gnight |
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<echelon> |
wtf.. i tried the jul-21 snapshot, it finished compiling, but there isn't even a build_arm dir |
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<echelon> |
anyone actually get a successful compilation of buildroot? |
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<echelon> |
wait a minute.. i keep getting conflicting answers |
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<echelon> |
i thought openembedded creates a completely different kernel, so the wireless won't work because it has closed-source drivers? |
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<echelon> |
w000t! im on zipit :D |
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<echelon> |
what kind of a name is dbcliientt for ssh? |
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<echelon> |
seriously, where's the tab key? |
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<echelon> |
the battery doesn't last long at all in the z2 shell |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
tab key on the Z2 is the Z-face button |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
... is ctrl |
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<echelon> |
Limp_Trizkit: thanks! :) |
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<echelon> |
Limp_Trizkit: you use OpenEmbedded? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yeah |
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<echelon> |
and your wifi works? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
haven't tested WEP/WPA with wpa_supplicant yet |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
but open access points do |
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<echelon> |
yeah, i run an open AP anyway |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i also have links, mplayer, and a few games |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
same |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
people here are too honest |
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<echelon> |
i thought openembedded creates its own kernel image? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
bitbaked mplayer |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
and there's a links package on the zipitwireless site |
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<echelon> |
i was using the z2 shell hack all this time |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
lol |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
lame |
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<echelon> |
tell me about it |
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<echelon> |
ugh.. where the hell is the org.openembedded.dev direcotry? |
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<echelon> |
wtf is with prepSDCard.pl ? |
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<echelon> |
my sd card shows up as /dev/mmc* |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
it's picky |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
ask foxx about it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
he ended up doing it manually if i recall |
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<echelon> |
i'm just going to comment that crap out |
