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<drmikecrowe> |
Hey folks, good weekend? |
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<jhaluska> |
It was ok |
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<jhaluska> |
Sunday was dreary |
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<drmikecrowe> |
I'd pay for dreary. We haven't had rain here in way too long. |
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<jhaluska> |
Well I got some rain. |
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<jhaluska> |
I got some musty smell in my car I bought, I have to get rid of it. |
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<jhaluska> |
Seems to get worst after it rains, so I'm guessing it is mildew. |
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<drmikecrowe> |
I hate bad car smells. PITA to get rid of |
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<jhaluska> |
Yeah I didn't smell it when I bought it. |
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<jhaluska> |
I'm going to frebreeze it and vacuum it. |
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<jhaluska> |
Need to somehow get it to circulate through the ventilation system. |
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<drmikecrowe> |
my kids left some milk in my trunk one time after unloading the groceries. It burst on a hot day. Had to throw away that whole cover. couldn't get rid of the sour milk smell |
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<jhaluska> |
yeah, that is an option for me. But I have a lousy sense of smell so I haven't pinpointed it yet. |
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<jhaluska> |
And the car is pretty small so it doesn't take too long to figure it out. |
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<drmikecrowe> |
:D |
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<jhaluska> |
hi Switchcat |
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<Switchcat> |
hello |
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<Switchcat> |
maybe if zipit had an irc client this channel would be more active. :P |
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<jhaluska> |
yeah |
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<unrest> |
remove that "maybe" from your line Switchcat , then you're right ;) |
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<Switchcat> |
an irc client does not guarantee busyness |
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<unrest> |
Magon, are you there? |
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<unrest> |
i was told you moved the mouse (in gpe) via the arrow keys.. how did you do it? |
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<Magon> |
unrest: yes i did |
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<Magon> |
xkdb X extention |
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<Magon> |
xkbd |
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<unrest> |
i "played" with that for about one day and didn't manage to get mousekeys working... |
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<Magon> |
:-) |
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<unrest> |
come on, tell me ;) |
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<Magon> |
have you tried mouse-toogle or something like that key? |
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<Magon> |
i will search througth my stuff |
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<unrest> |
that'd be nice my czech (?) neighbour :) |
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<Magon> |
first..are you shure you have xkbd included in X? |
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<Magon> |
yes i am czech |
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* |
unrest is sure |
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<Magon> |
ok |
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<Magon> |
grrr...i need to improve my english...havnt been using it for a while |
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<Magon> |
sure :-) |
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<unrest> |
do you coincientially speak german? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
oh no |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
lol |
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<Magon> |
i have been teached german for 4 years |
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<unrest> |
kannst du es denn auch noch? |
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<unrest> |
better question would be: which language do you prefer? |
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<unrest> |
;) |
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<Magon> |
ok..cannot read the first :-) |
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<unrest> |
then we'll stick with english :) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
saves me from any more headache |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
heh |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you never know when im lurking |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
same with Foxx |
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<Magon> |
Limp_Trizkit: headache from german? |
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<unrest> |
damn, i cannot get my ad-hoc up... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
Magon: i don't speak german, so i have to pick out words similar to other languages i know |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
or run the whole thing through google language tools |
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<Magon> |
Limp_Trizkit: i would prefer speaking english and been answered in german...but i dont have dictionary here |
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<Magon> |
unrest: give me i minute..cannot find it :-) |
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<unrest> |
no problem.. gotta get my damned wifi network working again anyway.. ^^ |
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<Magon> |
:-) |
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<unrest> |
strrrange ^^ |
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<unrest> |
now it works.. |
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<Magon> |
you should be glad it works |
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<unrest> |
why so? |
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<Magon> |
you wanted it to work or not :-) |
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<unrest> |
sure |
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<unrest> |
and i had it working before |
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<Magon> |
and wifi is for me kind of magic |
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<unrest> |
and i got everything set up to work automagically, but somehow the heat must be bullying the ghosts in the machines |
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* |
unrest giggles |
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* |
Magon found it probably |
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<Magon> |
ok do you have custom keymap? |
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<unrest> |
nope. i got the standard OE keymap (from the openzipit.org pakcage) |
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<Magon> |
ok you need special one :-) |
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<unrest> |
und wo krieg ich die her? |
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<Magon> |
eng pls |
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<Magon> |
i dont have dict :-(( |
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<unrest> |
ok |
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<unrest> |
where do i get it? |
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<Magon> |
i will provide |
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<Magon> |
but first |
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<Magon> |
can you open your current one? |
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<unrest> |
wait a sec and tell me where it's located on the z2 |
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<Magon> |
that is the problem...i have no idea |
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<Magon> |
X.org need different keymap than console |
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<unrest> |
you had it working, didn't you? |
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<Magon> |
and i think that you dont have keymap for X.org |
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<Magon> |
i have it working probably :-) |
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<Magon> |
ok..i will simply provide you mine |
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<unrest> |
where is your keyma located? |
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<unrest> |
keymap* |
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<unrest> |
thanks |
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<Magon> |
i have it on SD card in root |
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* |
Magon is idiot..found wrong keymap |
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<unrest> |
=) |
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<unrest> |
no problem |
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<Magon> |
ok have it :-) |
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<unrest> |
no problem0] |
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<unrest> |
ignore that |
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<unrest> |
=] |
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<Magon> |
you are looking for xmodemap |
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<Magon> |
xmodmap |
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<unrest> |
is installed |
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<Magon> |
xmodmap file :-) |
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<Magon> |
how to provide you the file? |
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<Magon> |
ok wait a sec i have an idea |
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<unrest> |
ermm okay |
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<Magon> |
http://disk.jabbim.cz/magon@jabber.cz/zipit2.xmodmap |
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<unrest> |
got it |
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<Magon> |
now just start X and xmodmap zipi2.xmodmap |
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<Magon> |
ma hardisk is ill probably :-( |
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<unrest> |
then buy a new one? |
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<Magon> |
laptop one... |
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<Magon> |
and thinkpad one |
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<Magon> |
easier to cure than to replace |
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<unrest> |
afaik you can use thos hitachis.. |
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<unrest> |
haven't had problems with my t40's hdd tho.. |
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<Magon> |
i would have to tell bios i dont use authorized HDD |
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<Magon> |
but smart tells it is fine..probably just filesystem is bad |
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<unrest> |
iirc there's a hack for it - like for the wireless cards |
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<Magon> |
i know |
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<Magon> |
are you trying that file? |
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<unrest> |
i'm trying to get gpe-dm running again... |
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<unrest> |
/usr/bin/xmodmap: /etc/X11/zipit2.xmodmap:247: bad keycode value (out of range) |
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<unrest> |
and then: |
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<unrest> |
/usr/bin/xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting. |
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<Magon> |
try adding /n at the end of file |
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<Magon> |
\n |
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<unrest> |
/usr/bin/xmodmap: /etc/X11/zipit2.xmodmap:247: bad keycode value (out of range) |
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<unrest> |
/usr/bin/xmodmap: unknown command on line /etc/X11/zipit2.xmodmap:248 |
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<unrest> |
/usr/bin/xmodmap: 2 errors encountered, aborting. |
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<unrest> |
okay.. |
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<unrest> |
solved it the harsh way |
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<unrest> |
i removed the last line and it was loaded properly. |
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<unrest> |
and now? |
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<Magon> |
ok now do you see X with cursor? |
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<unrest> |
yup |
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<Magon> |
try arrows |
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<Magon> |
probably nothing will happen |
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<unrest> |
indeed |
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<Magon> |
press the zipit button and try again |
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<unrest> |
still not working |
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<Magon> |
grr..xkbd is not active than |
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<Magon> |
(my guess) |
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<Switchcat> |
sounds like a prerolled distro would be handy |
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<Magon> |
or..do you know which key is 110 ? |
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<unrest> |
nope |
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<Magon> |
have you enabled xkbd in X build? |
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<Magon> |
it is disabled in OE by default |
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<unrest> |
how do i enable it? |
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<Magon> |
manualy |
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<unrest> |
110 is "home" btw |
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<Magon> |
i made bitbake unpack X.org, configured it manualy and let bitbake to compile and pack it |
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<Magon> |
ok so try press home |
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<Magon> |
and than arrows |
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<unrest> |
nope |
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<Magon> |
when starting X, it logs started extentions |
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<Magon> |
there should be line containing xkbd |
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<unrest> |
Xorg.0.log i guess? |
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<Magon> |
yes |
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<unrest> |
isn't there.... |
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<Magon> |
grr |
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<Magon> |
when you execute X from ssh it should give some output to console |
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<unrest> |
i just have xfbdev and it doesn't tell anything about loaded extensions.. |
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<Magon> |
ok...so try it like i did |
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<Magon> |
tel bitbake to configure X package |
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<Magon> |
than configure it manualy and let bitbake to install it |
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<unrest> |
which x package? |
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<unrest> |
and configure it where? |
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<Magon> |
the installed one |
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<Magon> |
i am not shure which one you use |
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<unrest> |
xserver-xfbdev is useb by gpe by default |
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<Magon> |
after bitbake unpacks it go to that folder and execute ./configure --something |
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<unrest> |
there'S no "unpack" option.. |
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<unrest> |
-c unpack? |
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<Magon> |
try -c configure |
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<unrest> |
-c configure and -c rebuild didn't work out |
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<Magon> |
:-( |
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<Magon> |
i cannot remember how i got it compiled |
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<Magon> |
have an idea what about changing bitbake file? |
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<unrest> |
which is much of a pity |
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<unrest> |
what do you meanß |
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<Magon> |
i just hate to do that so i decided to go around that |
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<Magon> |
tweak the bbfile to configure it with xkbd |
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<unrest> |
where? |
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<unrest> |
ad something like "do_configure()"?? |
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<Magon> |
there is do_configure |
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<Magon> |
or should be |
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<unrest> |
ain't there for xserver-kdrive-common |
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<Magon> |
:-( |
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<Magon> |
sorry have to go - treathing my HDD |
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<unrest> |
xserver-xorg is finished building, i got some spare sd cards and some time tomorrow. i'll try to get some nice x'ish thinkgs done |
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<unrest> |
hopefully the z2's got enuff power to run xorg instead of kdrive... |
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<Switchcat> |
wow, only one moderator on the zipitwireless yahoo group.. I hope he's still active |
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<Switchcat> |
So what do you guys think of "worlds cheapest laptop" re: slashdot story |
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<Switchcat> |
hmmm it seems like people are mostly talking about rolling your own distros/installs with openembedded for the Z... but has there been much talk about using a pre-existing embedded linux distro? So far a simple search has turned up efforts towards embedded distros in ubuntu, slackware.. etc. |
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<Switchcat> |
both geared at ARM processors, etc. |
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<Switchcat> |
oh man.. 8gb sd cards.. 25 bucks... zip it device 36-50 dollars... |
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<Switchcat> |
now all we need is a port extender/adapter for usb, microphone input, etc. |
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<Switchcat> |
okay miniSD a bit more expensive |
