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<crazymonkeypants> |
alyawn: I found the bits I wanted you to tweak |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
It's actually just the GPIO driver I need rebuilt |
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<unrest> |
good morning |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
well, it IS 1:34am |
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<unrest> |
8:34am ;) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yeah well |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you're eastern europe |
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<unrest> |
o.0 |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
no? |
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<unrest> |
germany ain't eastern europe 0.o |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
germany is GMT +2? |
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<unrest> |
summer/winter time |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
ah |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
my apologies for not thinking |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
but like i said |
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<unrest> |
=) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
it's 1:34am |
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<unrest> |
so it applies in you timezone, too =) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
heh |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yes... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
:P |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
currently 15C... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
probably closer to 30 inside... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
(yes, i converted that for you; no, you don't have to thank me) |
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<unrest> |
15.1°C outside 21°C inside... |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
shame i don't have my temp probe down here |
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<unrest> |
do you have a long backlog of this irc channel you can grep through, Limp_Trizkit? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
only as long as i've been here |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
which makes that about two days |
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<unrest> |
hm.. k |
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<unrest> |
i forgot the command that gives me the keycodes of a key when it's pressed.. any ideas? |
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<unrest> |
xev under x.. |
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<unrest> |
well |
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<unrest> |
showkey! =) |
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<unrest> |
are "options" and "home" mapped someplace? |
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<unrest> |
i now the keycodes, i know how to link keypress to mouse action, but what i don't know yet is how to trigger mousekeys with some "custom" command - as we don't have "numlock" as a button.. |
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<unrest> |
if i find it out, it'll take on/two days to fine-tune the pointer's behaviour, thoug |
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<unrest> |
one/two* |
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<unrest> |
the next problem'd be the not really logging in gpe-login.. |
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<unrest> |
xkbset can toggle mousekeys, but there's no package for it in OE ;/ |
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<unrest> |
compiling xkbset from scratch fails due to some missing xlibs.. |
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<unrest> |
dammit |
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<unrest> |
i cannot use xmodmap without an xserver running.. |
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<unrest> |
it appears that showkeys does not show the keycodes used under x.. |
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<unrest> |
the xserver used by gpe seems to hve mousekeys disabled... |
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<unrest> |
or the implementation is broken |
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<unrest> |
i remapped the keypad keys as well as numlock to other keys.. |
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<unrest> |
apparently i can activate mousekeys, but the remapped keys won't move the pointer |
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<unrest> |
i know that i got the right keycodes, because i prevented gpe-login from running (when launching gpe-dm) and started xev instead which printed me the keycodes to stdout |
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<unrest> |
[1]drmikecrowe, how many keystrokes _at once_ can the hardware handle? |
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<unrest> |
XK_Pointer_EnableKeys... |
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<unrest> |
.. or not |
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<[1]drmikecrowe> |
unrest, heading into work now. will find out |
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<unrest> |
[1]drmikecrowe, thank you! =) |
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<alyawn> |
morning |
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<unrest> |
morning alyawn |
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<unrest> |
made no progress yet.. :/ |
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<unrest> |
installed all the "not found"'s |
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<unrest> |
changed the path where the 99gpe-login script looks for xmodmap, but x still crashes after login |
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<alyawn> |
well... I can safely say that the problem isn't happening because of missing packages |
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<unrest> |
no real progress with sofmouse either |
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<alyawn> |
I did the same... disabled everything, but gpe-login continue's to fail |
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<unrest> |
i know how/where to remap the keys |
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<alyawn> |
cool... |
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<unrest> |
so i remapped some to numpad, but the mousekeys implementation is either missing or broken |
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<alyawn> |
I've been digging through gpe-login.c to try and figure out what's supposed to happen |
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<unrest> |
so? |
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<alyawn> |
bummer re: mouse |
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<alyawn> |
no resolution yet |
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<alyawn> |
starting again this AM :) |
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<unrest> |
at least we got the screen orientation right, yet |
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* |
unrest giggles |
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<alyawn> |
yes... at least :) |
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<alyawn> |
and I know how to build and install packages |
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<alyawn> |
and I know all about X's startup procedures |
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<unrest> |
and i spent about 5hours today fiddling with xkbd, xmodmap etc.. |
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<unrest> |
oh.. |
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<alyawn> |
I attempted to get some help from #handhelds-gpe, but no one was home |
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<unrest> |
if you want to start some x-needing programs add "exec YOURPROGRAM" before "exec gpe-dm" in /etc/X11/Xinit.d/99gpe-login |
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<alyawn> |
yes... it seems that X is happy.... |
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<alyawn> |
but gpe isn't |
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<unrest> |
it's missing locales.. |
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<alyawn> |
yeah... but I'm not sure that's the actual problem either |
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<unrest> |
it isn't as i satisfied it's need.. |
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<alyawn> |
what app is gpe-login supposed to run to display the desktop? |
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<unrest> |
which windowmanager you mean? |
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<unrest> |
matchbox |
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<unrest> |
hahaa! |
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<unrest> |
if we bypass gpe-login we can easily run matchbox.. |
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<alyawn> |
ha!!! |
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<unrest> |
so it's gpe-login itself being b0rked |
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<alyawn> |
yep |
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<unrest> |
why didn't i think of bypassing it earlier? :/ |
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<alyawn> |
too many red herrings |
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<alyawn> |
no keyboard nav in matchbox... |
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<unrest> |
you can use it |
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<unrest> |
it doesn't show where you focus is, thouh |
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<unrest> |
hit enter to see where your "pointer" is |
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<alyawn> |
heh... you're right |
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<alyawn> |
no focus == bad |
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<unrest> |
therefore we need the mouse.. |
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<unrest> |
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-May/005525.html |
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<unrest> |
http://www.linux.com/articles/114012 |
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<unrest> |
http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen/software/ |
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<unrest> |
keycodes: up: 103, down: 108, left: 105, right: 106, nippleinthemiddle: 107 |
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<unrest> |
comma is 51 and colon is 52 |
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<unrest> |
(in case you want to experiment with xmodmap, too) |
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<alyawn> |
ok... will start reading |
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<alyawn> |
so, do you know the best way to add a patch to the OE build, say if I was able to fix gpe-login or something |
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<unrest> |
place the patch in the gpe-login directory and add the path to the patch to the .bb recipe for gpe-login |
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<unrest> |
meta/packages/gpe-login would be the path.. |
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<alyawn> |
sweet... thanks |
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* |
unrest tries to build the latest svn build of gpe-login |
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<unrest> |
it builds |
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<unrest> |
it runs |
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<unrest> |
it fails |
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<alyawn> |
so do you build it using bitbak |
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<jhaluska> |
Hey Mike |
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<unrest> |
yup |
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<drmikecrowe> |
hey folks |
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<unrest> |
alyawn, bitbake -b path/to/recipe |
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<unrest> |
hi drmikecrowe |
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<drmikecrowe> |
unrest, I checked, and we think it should be as many as you want. |
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<unrest> |
drmikecrowe, thanks for checking :) |
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<drmikecrowe> |
:D |
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<unrest> |
then there's some other problem... |
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<unrest> |
.., so i shouldn't thank you at all, as it means moe work! ;) |
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<drmikecrowe> |
? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
what problem? |
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<unrest> |
i thought that there's the possibility of not enugff keys at once, so i cannot activate mouskeys, but as you now told me it isn't possible anymore.. |
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<unrest> |
mousekeys* |
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<drmikecrowe> |
hahaha. Sorry. |
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<drmikecrowe> |
GPE mapped the arrow keys into the mouse somehow. FYI |
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<unrest> |
reference to that? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
magon built me an app based on GPE one time. the GPE gui/system/whatever was able to use the arrow keys as the mouse. When you pressed the Z key, it toggled between arrows and mouse |
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<unrest> |
the z-button is used as <tab> |
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<unrest> |
do you still have the app? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
right (actually, now that I think about it, maybe it was the options button). Whichever it was, there was a keyboard code which toggled the mode |
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<drmikecrowe> |
I wanted to see if that was a GPE specific think, or something we could pull out and make generic |
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<jhaluska> |
drmikecrowe: In the Z3, can you work on making the keypad more SSH/linux console friendly? :) |
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<drmikecrowe> |
It was still rough. You could only do right angles (go left, then up). Would be nice if it could sample 2 at once |
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<drmikecrowe> |
jhaluska, in what respect? |
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<jhaluska> |
ctrl, alt, f1 keys, hmm |
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<unrest> |
or some kind of clit-mouse like in ibm thinkpads.. |
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<jhaluska> |
drmikecrowe: I'll give better feedback once I get a 2GB Mini card. |
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<jhaluska> |
I should have some coming in at work next week. |
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<unrest> |
drmikecrowe, none of the "extra" key toggle such a mode.. :/ |
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<drmikecrowe> |
hmmm, we can see. space is always a premium. With the primary function being IM/SMS chat, it's hard justifying more. |
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<drmikecrowe> |
yeah, in the app, that pops up a screen to enter the special keys you want |
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<jhaluska> |
drmikecrowe: Yeah I understand. There must be some sort of happy compromise, maybe do some statistics on what keys are used the most to reduce the extra key strokes. |
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<unrest> |
drmikecrowe, so? do you still have that code from magon? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
Unfortunately, no. he gave me the executable, but nothing else. However, I *think* he just built a GPE app in OE. I don't think he did more than that |
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<unrest> |
when was the last tim you have seen him? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
I saw he and T0mW chatting last week. He's on summer vacation right now (goes to school in Prague) |
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<unrest> |
fuck |
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<drmikecrowe> |
do you have OE up and running? |
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<unrest> |
sure |
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<drmikecrowe> |
Look through and choose a GPE app and give it a shot. I know he didn't invest too much time in this, so it's pretty standard, IMHO |
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<unrest> |
i already did |
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<unrest> |
as i told you above.. ;) |
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<alyawn> |
hey... if you run matchbox via `/etc/matchbox/session` then you get focus highlighting |
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<alyawn> |
well... I guess that's the same as running matchbox-session |
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<unrest> |
bbl (or tomorrow |
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<unrest> |
training |
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<unrest> |
laters =) |
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<jhaluska> |
Hey T0mW, done with painting? |
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<T0mW> |
nope |
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<jhaluska> |
I bought a project car. I had it delivered this morning before work. |
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<T0mW> |
finally got the rugs and padding removed. Now I have to pry up staples from the subfloors] |
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<jhaluska> |
Redoing the carpet? |
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<jhaluska> |
wb mr unrest |
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<unrest> |
for you "mr. lenz", mr. haluska (?) |
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<jhaluska> |
Yeah, I'll forget that :) |
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<jhaluska> |
But yes, my last name is Haluska |
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<unrest> |
T0mW, good evening |
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<unrest> |
do you coincidentially know how to get past gpe-login by logging in or how to emulate the mouse like magon (reportedly) did? |
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<T0mW> |
unrest: no, I haven't done much except to get it up to the gpe-login, then the house purchase went through. |
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<unrest> |
real life first =) |
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<T0mW> |
unrest: I've been busy busy. Working with a new client in the day and working at getting the house ready at night |
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<T0mW> |
I have to rip out the copper plumbing and replace it with PEX next. |
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<unrest> |
sounds like work 24/7.. |
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<unrest> |
i thought you were already tearing those tubes out?! |
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<T0mW> |
feels good though to be this active. |
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<unrest> |
i'd b pissed because of the stress... |
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<unrest> |
activity in your age is god, though. :) |
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<unrest> |
but don't stress yourself to a stroke, old man ;) |
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<unrest> |
s/god/good/ |
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<T0mW> |
unrest: naw, got the rug and padding out of the family room last night. Started pulling the staples out of the subfloor also. Will have to continue with that tonight |
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<jhaluska> |
He's not that old, sheesh. |
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<T0mW> |
heh |
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<unrest> |
jhaluska, he's more than two times older than me... so he's almost a mummy... ;) |
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<T0mW> |
well, I'm old enough that the 20-something gals don't interest me anymore. give me a 30 year old babe! |
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<jhaluska> |
I think he's twice as old as me too, but I don't think you're old till you're in a nursing home. |
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<unrest> |
the carpet's glued i guess - cause it takes you so long yet |
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<jhaluska> |
And the older you get the, older old gets :P |
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<unrest> |
T0mW, ouch... THAT old? or is the "gimme a gal that could be my granddaughter" phase yet to come? |
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<unrest> |
wow |
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<T0mW> |
lol |
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<T0mW> |
hey, they all look good |
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<T0mW> |
excepting the geriatrics |
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<unrest> |
T0mW, you ran gpe-image yet, didn't you? did the normal gpe-image pass you through gpe-login? |
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<unrest> |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn8-3SWd8M |
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<alyawn> |
thanks for that! |
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unrest grins |
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<unrest> |
good night folks |
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<unrest> |
tty tomorrow |
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<jhaluska> |
Night unrest |
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