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<crazymonkeypants> |
Looks like the LPC915 has the same basic functions it did in the Z1 |
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<unrest> |
haha! curtris works on the z2, too |
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<unrest> |
(source on the yahoo mailing list) |
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<drmikecrowe> |
Morning |
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<jhaluska> |
I didn't sleep much last night |
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<jhaluska> |
Ever try to program with little sleep, it doesn't work |
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<alyawn> |
jhaluska, half of my career I spent programming asleep :) |
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<jhaluska> |
alyawn: heh |
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<alyawn> |
hey, my z2 is now running OE base image :) |
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<alyawn> |
now I get to dig into OE and see how to build apps for it |
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<jhaluska> |
I need another mini sd card. |
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<alyawn> |
I thought I needed another one last night, but finally got it working |
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<drmikecrowe> |
alyawn, did you get the ext2 partition working too? |
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<alyawn> |
yep.. it all works now |
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<drmikecrowe> |
awesome |
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<alyawn> |
the thing that worked (and I can't verify this) was that I reformatted the card in my old camcorder |
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<alyawn> |
then ran the prepSDcard.pl and everything was happy |
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<drmikecrowe> |
very interesting. |
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<alyawn> |
also, crazymonkeypants had me reboot very quickly also |
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<alyawn> |
so pick your theory |
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<drmikecrowe> |
yeah, I hadn't considered the card's speed. glad to know that |
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<alyawn> |
it's weird... my SD card came with 4 partitions, on of which was a Novell Netware partition |
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<jhaluska> |
alyawn: Weird |
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<drmikecrowe> |
very |
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<alyawn> |
but... I'm happy to sit here and watch the cursor blink now |
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<jhaluska> |
I still havent' seen the cursor blink :( |
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<alyawn> |
did you ever get an image? |
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<jhaluska> |
alyawn: yeah, but I need a non SDHC card now |
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<alyawn> |
maybe try resetting then immediately pressing the green button |
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<jhaluska> |
I left my Z2 at home again |
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<alyawn> |
that worked for me |
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<jhaluska> |
I'll try it at home. |
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<alyawn> |
now I have to start reading OE docs to learn how to build apps |
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<alyawn> |
yippe |
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* |
jhaluska cracks his knuckles and decides to code |
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<jhaluska> |
Awake or not! |
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<alyawn> |
FTW! |
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<alyawn> |
so now that I have a kernel, I shouldn't have to build that again, right. I can just build my app |
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<alyawn> |
and toss it on the card |
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<alyawn> |
so I have the gpe image running... |
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<alyawn> |
how do I get X to rotate :) it's a little awkward looking at it sideways |
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<alyawn> |
can you do a Ctrl-Alt-1,2, etc to switch to a terminal while running X on a zipit? |
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<unrest> |
alyawn, linux.zipitwireless answers this ;) |
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<unrest> |
btw: i got tetris and moon-buggy running on my z2 ^^ |
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<unrest> |
Foxx, do you have this c64-like sound that's played at the beginning of each episode bsod as a mp3 lying around somewhere? i want it as my cell phone ringtone. |
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<alyawn> |
unrest, yes I found it |
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<alyawn> |
thx anyway |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
alyawn: if you have an environment up and building the Aeronix-patched kernel, I would love to send you some diffs and get a kernel of my own back from you |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Or if you have it working on Darwin, that would be even niftier |
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<alyawn> |
I built following the openzipit.org instructions |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
*sigh* This means I have to have a Linnex machine, doesn't it? |
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<alyawn> |
if you can send me patches to that, I'd be happy to build |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Oki. I'll see what can be seen |
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<unrest> |
those using OE as distro: does anyone of you want the binary for curtris (tetris) and/or moon-buggy? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sure |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
means i can do more than just use links or ssh into my other boxen |
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<unrest> |
Limp_Trizkit, can you get dcc sends? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sometimes |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
hang on a second |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
you can try now |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
that didn't work :/ |
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<unrest> |
wait a mo |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
aye |
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<unrest> |
silenceisdefeat.org/~unrest/curtris |
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<unrest> |
and [...]/moon-buggy |
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<unrest> |
are the binaries |
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<unrest> |
curtris, btw, is a program i "stole" from a greek coder and got his permissions to trim down thecode to run on a zipit z1 |
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<unrest> |
this morning i discovered it runs just fine on the z2, too |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
well, getting his permission makes it not stealing |
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<unrest> |
yeah |
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<unrest> |
well |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
consider it 'relicensed' |
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<unrest> |
i stole - meaning, trimmed - it and then asked.. ^^ |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
ah |
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<unrest> |
hf with it |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i will |
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<unrest> |
does it work or complain about missing libraries? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
lemme load em on the zipit |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
Error opening terminal vt102. |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
(for moon-buggy) |
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<unrest> |
hmm |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
same for curtris |
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<unrest> |
strrange |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
hmm |
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<unrest> |
i'll try to create a OE recipe for it.. |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i think i know what's missing |
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<unrest> |
so? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
one second |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
well, no vt102 error this time |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
oh there it goes |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
moon-buggy works as well as one would expect |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
tip for future reference - make sure you install termcap |
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<unrest> |
me? |
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<unrest> |
oh.. for curtris: |
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<unrest> |
q - rotate brick |
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<unrest> |
o - move brick left |
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<unrest> |
p - move brick right |
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<unrest> |
SPACE - drop brick |
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<unrest> |
arrow key - pause |
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<unrest> |
hth ;) |
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<unrest> |
Limp_Trizkit, ^ |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yeah i figured that out |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
thanks though |
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<unrest> |
nevermind =) |
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<unrest> |
Limp_Trizkit, did you fiddle with the gpe image yet? |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
don't think i know what you're talking about |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
or else i'm just an idiot |
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<unrest> |
minimal-gpe-image for/from openembedded |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
oh |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
no, i haven't |
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<_someguy_> |
is anyone aware of a source for the Zipits in the UK? |
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<unrest> |
_someguy_, no. i (germany) had to buy from the us of a. a "european" source'd have been far etter, but there is none |
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<unrest> |
better* |
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<_someguy_> |
caould I ask who you got it from all the internet sites linked from the official website say that they won't ship outside the US |
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<unrest> |
ebay |
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<unrest> |
guy/seller named "martolina" |
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<unrest> |
costed me 90usd (incl. shipping) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
ack |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
i paid $20 |
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<unrest> |
usa and amazon, i guess? |
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<unrest> |
_someguy_, http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130235818348&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:DE:11 |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
yeah unrest |
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<_someguy_> |
nice one! |
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<_someguy_> |
thanks dudes |
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<unrest> |
_someguy_, no problem |
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<_someguy_> |
seems ebay is the best bet for getting one shipped to the UK... ...one last question before I order one of the Z2 Zipits: |
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<_someguy_> |
How long do the batteries last in your experience? |
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<unrest> |
it's said to last 4 hours |
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<unrest> |
i didn't let it run empty yet, though |
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<_someguy_> |
thanks again ;-) |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
sme |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
*same |
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<alyawn> |
man, I really like ipkg |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
lol |
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<Limp_Trizkit> |
except it's missing the super cow powers of apt |
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<alyawn> |
right... but compared to the way you used to have to do this sort of thing |
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<alyawn> |
OE has come a long way |
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<unrest> |
does anyone of you know how to install all those gpe "components" to a base-image? |
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<alyawn> |
I was just looking into that |
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<alyawn> |
I didn't want to reflash my card |
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<alyawn> |
greping for it now |
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<unrest> |
i found it |
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<unrest> |
and have done it |
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<unrest> |
you gotta build the minimal-gpe-image though |
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<unrest> |
and then: ipkg install gpe-dm gpe-login gpe-ownerinfo gpe-question gpe-terminal gpe-theme-clearlooks |
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<unrest> |
you might wat to set up a ipkg repository on your box - makes things _MUCH_ easier.. |
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<unrest> |
want* |
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<alyawn> |
I have built the minimal-gpe-image |
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<alyawn> |
thanks for the list... I've already setup apache and the repos... |
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<alyawn> |
life is easier :) |
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<unrest> |
indeed =) |
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<alyawn> |
almost like using a desktop |
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<alyawn> |
hmm... how do you switch from tty to X? |
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<unrest> |
executegpe-dm |
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<unrest> |
+WHITESPACE |
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<unrest> |
^^ |
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<alyawn> |
my Xserver keeps crashing :( |
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<unrest> |
define crash |
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<alyawn> |
Xserver pid 1831 exited with status 2 |
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<alyawn> |
when launching gpe-dm |
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<unrest> |
strange... |
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<alyawn> |
it seems x isn't all on here |
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<unrest> |
bitbake xserver-kdrive |
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<unrest> |
and then install it |
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<alyawn> |
did that |
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<unrest> |
and if this doesn't work bitbake/install xserver-kdrive-xfbdev (or similiar) |
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<unrest> |
-fbdev |
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<alyawn> |
ok.. just did ipkg install xserver-kdrive-fbdev and it works |
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<unrest> |
see =) |
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<alyawn> |
he |
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<alyawn> |
*heh |
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<unrest> |
do you get behind the login? |
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<alyawn> |
nope... loops |
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<unrest> |
any idea how to fix it? |
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<alyawn> |
how do we enable logging for all this stuff |
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<alyawn> |
no clue |
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<unrest> |
idk |
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<unrest> |
i'm fiddling with gpe (login) as long as you are.. |
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<alyawn> |
hmm... can you run the gpe-dm rotated? |
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<unrest> |
yup |
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<unrest> |
wanna know how? ;) |
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<alyawn> |
sure... |
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<alyawn> |
I tried the instructions, but don't work for the dm |
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<unrest> |
shall i be mean or nice? ;) |
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<alyawn> |
I looked at the website... mean |
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<unrest> |
rtfm for xrandr |
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<unrest> |
well.. |
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<unrest> |
/etc/X11/Xinit.d/01xrandr |
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<unrest> |
change normal to left |
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<alyawn> |
heh |
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<unrest> |
and you get your rotated server ;) |
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<alyawn> |
nice |
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<alyawn> |
thx |
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<unrest> |
:) |
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<unrest> |
had that done 5 minutes before you asked |
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<unrest> |
we are almost the same speed... :) |
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<unrest> |
let's hope karosium answers |
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<unrest> |
i remembered correctly that he coded a softmouse driver for the z1 (viewml) |
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<unrest> |
so i asked him to disclose the code or at least info about it and to come here.. |
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<alyawn> |
I see a bunch of syslog calls in the gpe code, just trying to figure out how to enable it |
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<alyawn> |
the syslogd on this is a lot different than the normal one |
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<unrest> |
do you have the syslogd installed/running? |
| [15:34:27] |
<unrest> |
apparently it doesn't log to /var/log/syslog.. |
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<unrest> |
root@zipit2:/home/unrest$ /etc/init.d/syslog restart |
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<unrest> |
Stopping syslogd/klogd: /etc/init.d/syslog: /etc/init.d/syslog: 67: start-stop-daemon: not foun |
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<alyawn> |
it logs to /var/log/messages |
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<alyawn> |
it's running on my z2 now |
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<alyawn> |
1091 root 636 S /sbin/syslogd -n -O /var/log/messages -s 32 -b 1 -m 20 |
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<alyawn> |
no messages comming from gpe `cat /proc/kmsg` |
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<unrest> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/m235ff652 |
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<unrest> |
that's one login cycle.. |
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<unrest> |
(on messages) |
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<alyawn> |
yep.. I get the same |
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<alyawn> |
not useful |
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<unrest> |
sadly.. |
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<unrest> |
i found some messages stating that it was missing matchbox (windowmanager) |
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<unrest> |
so i installed it |
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<unrest> |
but |
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<unrest> |
it didn't work out |
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<alyawn> |
this is better |
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<alyawn> |
`/usr/bin/gpe-dm -n` |
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<alyawn> |
starts it as nodaemon |
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<alyawn> |
now we can see all the bad stuff |
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<alyawn> |
doesn't look goodf |
| [15:42:28] |
<unrest> |
not in messages.. |
| [15:42:35] |
<unrest> |
where's it spat out at? |
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<alyawn> |
on the tty |
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<unrest> |
ah k |
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<alyawn> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/d1d64535 |
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<alyawn> |
JIC |
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<alyawn> |
a bunch of "not founds" |
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<unrest> |
yep |
| [15:47:11] |
<unrest> |
and all of those can be bitbaked sic |
| [15:47:21] |
<alyawn> |
I just did xset, xrdb |
| [15:47:29] |
<unrest> |
and? |
| [15:47:39] |
<alyawn> |
updating package-index :) |
| [15:47:41] |
<unrest> |
keylaunch's missing, too |
| [15:47:47] |
<unrest> |
so you might want to bitbake it, too |
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<alyawn> |
k |
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<unrest> |
and tslib |
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<unrest> |
(i got that one already ^^) |
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<alyawn> |
hmm... can't install |
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<unrest> |
dependancies.. ;) |
| [15:51:33] |
<alyawn> |
yep |
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<unrest> |
am running into them, too.. :/ |
| [15:58:29] |
<alyawn> |
giving up for now |
| [15:58:34] |
<unrest> |
why? |
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<alyawn> |
have to run out |
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<unrest> |
:/ |
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<alyawn> |
sry |
| [15:58:55] |
<alyawn> |
I did get keylaunch to install |
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<alyawn> |
still not happy, though |
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<unrest> |
dito =) |
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<unrest> |
well.. there are other packages like console-tools that are obviously needed.. |
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<unrest> |
catch you later alyawn =) |
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<unrest> |
http://zipit.pastebin.com/m4467f61a |
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<unrest> |
this appears to be the "reason" for x (gpe) not starting |
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<unrest> |
some smart guy in here? |
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<alyawn> |
anyone had any luck with the gpe image? |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Just noting for GPSFan/g1powermac: the TI chip by the battery connector appears to be a Texas BQ2403x battery charger IC |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/bq24030.htm |
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