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<Foxx> |
oi |
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<unrest> |
morning Foxx |
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<Foxx> |
got my skype message? |
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<unrest> |
nope |
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<unrest> |
oh |
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<unrest> |
yes i did |
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<unrest> |
sry, just woke up and i'm still a bit disoriented ^^ |
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<Foxx> |
no worries |
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<Foxx> |
mustang03282 is here from BSoD, he got his Z2 yesterday |
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<Foxx> |
TC-Nick should be here at some point |
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<unrest> |
i sent the link to t0mw for him to include it on his page - i he likes, so i don't bother about your friends :) |
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<unrest> |
did you give mustang03282 the link? |
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<Foxx> |
oh, well... they arent GOOD enough for you!? |
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<Foxx> |
;} |
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<Foxx> |
yah |
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<unrest> |
Foxx, nah, everyone with a z2 is good for my purposes ;) |
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unrest snickers |
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<Foxx> |
lol |
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<unrest> |
did he try it yet, do you know? |
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<Foxx> |
well, i figured id at least give you a heads up |
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<Foxx> |
i dont think so |
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<Foxx> |
i havent tried either, been too busy |
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<Foxx> |
tried extracting it but I got some errors |
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<mustang03282> |
did i try what? |
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<unrest> |
my base-image for the z2, mustang03282 |
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<Foxx> |
the compiled OE distro i linked you to... |
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<Foxx> |
the rapidshare one |
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<unrest> |
Foxx, you shall not extract it o.0 |
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<mustang03282> |
im working on it now |
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<mustang03282> |
wait maby not |
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<Foxx> |
i shall not? |
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<Foxx> |
:{ |
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<unrest> |
nope |
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<Foxx> |
any specific reason why? |
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<unrest> |
just point the prepSDcard.pl's --tarball directive to my file instead of the one specified in the openzipit page |
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<mustang03282> |
did you link me to a compiled one? |
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<Foxx> |
i was extracitng it to take a peek whats inside and how it works |
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<unrest> |
mustang03282, a bitbaked one, so sorta compiled |
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<unrest> |
Foxx, it's your later / |
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<unrest> |
busybox, dropnbear, development tools, wget etc. |
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<unrest> |
dopbear* |
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<mustang03282> |
im still new to enbedded linux so im fumbleing around like a teenaged boy around his 1st nakid girl so im not really sure what ive tryed at this point but hopefully something good will come of it |
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<unrest> |
what did you do? paste it (+output) smewhere please |
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<unrest> |
mustang03282, you're familiar with linux though, aren'T you? |
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<mustang03282> |
not really but i usually can get by |
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<unrest> |
;) |
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<unrest> |
do you know how to connect to a wireless accesspoint from commandline? |
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<mustang03282> |
i have before but i havnt used linux in a while but ill find my way google dosnt seem to mind alout of dumb questions |
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<unrest> |
well.. if you actually do what i tell you - and nothing else -, we might get you set up very quickly |
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<unrest> |
it's you choice how we proceed though :) |
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<unrest> |
s/you/your/ |
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<mustang03282> |
its cool im not gona bother you with alout of questiosn tonight ive been up for over 24hrs and and not really all there figured id just drop in here and lurk for a while and see if i can pick up anything |
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<mustang03282> |
lol |
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<unrest> |
you seriously need it.. ;p |
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<Foxx> |
mustang has his own language at this point |
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<Foxx> |
Stanglish |
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<unrest> |
what's the "sta" stand for? |
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<Foxx> |
stang', short for muSTANG |
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<unrest> |
uh huh |
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<Foxx> |
meh, its an inside joke |
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<unrest> |
i remember t0mw saing he fiddled with the files in his package... how big's the possibility that _he_ fucked up at some point, which results in me not being ale to connect to a wifi? |
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<unrest> |
saying* |
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<Foxx> |
could be possible |
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<unrest> |
at first i must know if it does work on other z2s or not.. |
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<unrest> |
so: mind sparing 10 minute of your precious time for me? ;) |
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<joejaxx> |
hello all |
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<joejaxx> |
1! |
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<joejaxx> |
bah |
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<joejaxx> |
blasted \n |
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<unrest> |
morning |
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<joejaxx> |
morning |
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<joejaxx> |
unrest: do you know when the zipit switch over to service plan? |
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<unrest> |
? |
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<joejaxx> |
i went to the site to find out where i could get the z2 to hack on |
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<joejaxx> |
and saw that they switched to a service plan based subscription now |
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<unrest> |
so? |
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<joejaxx> |
unrest: i was wondering if knew when that switch happened :P |
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<joejaxx> |
if you knenw* |
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<joejaxx> |
knew* |
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<unrest> |
well.. when you boot the regular application an get a background stating that you got 14-n days left of your free trial version, you know ;) |
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<joejaxx> |
oh ok |
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<joejaxx> |
i thought it was interesting to see as the z1 was not like that :P |
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* |
joejaxx purchased the z1 to hack on :P |
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<joejaxx> |
i never used the actual IM service |
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<unrest> |
the z2 wasn't like that either until some point where they decided to drop the prices and make moey with a service fee |
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* |
unrest neither |
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<joejaxx> |
i think they will make more money this way |
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<joejaxx> |
well z2 here i come! :P |
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<unrest> |
10-15usd afaik |
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* |
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<joejaxx> |
unrest: yeah |
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<joejaxx> |
and that is monthly |
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<unrest> |
when will you have it in your hands? |
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<joejaxx> |
unrest: i do not know :P how ever fast zipitwireless.com can ship it :P |
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<unrest> |
nah, 10-15usd profit over the 150usd subscription free z2.. |
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<unrest> |
oh. i thought you'd buy it at a local store.. |
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<joejaxx> |
oh |
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<joejaxx> |
Best Buy is out of the way :P |
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<unrest> |
amazon |
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<unrest> |
38usd |
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<unrest> |
;) |
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<joejaxx> |
hmm |
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<joejaxx> |
interesting |
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* |
joejaxx looks |
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* |
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<unrest> |
and it doesn't even boot up properly.. |
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unrest wgets the OE distro linked in the zipitwireless wiki |
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<unrest> |
if this OE distro works i'm gonna set up an ipkg repository on my machine and build all the packages ineed on my machine... |
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<unrest> |
jeez.. it doesn't even include wireless-tools.. x.x |
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<unrest> |
uuh... task 113 of 592.. |
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<Foxx> |
`oi |
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<Foxx> |
ok, so i got a virtual machine going, installing all the crap for OE |
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<unrest> |
flashed my image yet? |
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<Foxx> |
no, i dont have a build environment set up |
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<Foxx> |
im working on that now |
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<unrest> |
you don't really need to set it up |
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<unrest> |
as fatoot is premade |
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<unrest> |
and the prepSDcard.pl is there richgth from the start (extracting the tarball), too |
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<unrest> |
btw: there's at least one good rock channel: "tri rock radio" |
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<unrest> |
;) |
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unrest prays |
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<unrest> |
:( |
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<unrest> |
either it's something in the OE configurations |
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<unrest> |
OR |
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<unrest> |
zipitwireless changed/patched the driver |
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<unrest> |
which i'd pretty much hate |
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<unrest> |
i'm such a stpid fuck... i should've boted oe first |
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<unrest> |
and not update the z2 software/system... |
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<unrest> |
gotta go now.. ttyl |
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<jhaluska> |
hi g1powermac_PB and GPSFan |
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<GPSFan> |
morning.. |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
morning |
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<jhaluska> |
hey unrest |
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<unrest> |
hey jeff =) |
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<unrest> |
good evening tom |
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<jhaluska> |
T0mW! |
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<T0mW> |
hello |
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<jhaluska> |
Hey unrest |
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<unrest> |
T0mW, |
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<unrest> |
got any idea, why i cannot set the essid to connect to via iwconfig? |
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<T0mW> |
just looking at the Home Depot site and considering ripping out all the copper water supply in my new home and replacing it with PEX tubing. |
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<unrest> |
it tells me "error for wireless request "set essid"" "set failed on device eth0 ; Connection refused" |
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<unrest> |
why replace it with plastic? |
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<T0mW> |
water is somewhat acidic and corrodes the copper lines |
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<T0mW> |
I will have to do some work on the water supply as they didn't properly winterize the home before they shut off the heat last winter. |
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<jhaluska> |
T0mW, any pics of your new place? |
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<T0mW> |
I think so, ... |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: http://www.openhardware.net/pawnee-front.jpg |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
T0mW: nice house |
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<jhaluska> |
That is a nice house |
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<jhaluska> |
http://www.kryp.to/~jeff/Tulip/june2006.jpg <- My house |
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<jhaluska> |
That was right after I painted the bottom part white, had to repaint it white again this year. |
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g1powermac_PB doesn't have pics of the outside of his house |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
only pics on my lab/office/studio/basement thing :-) |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77471288@N00/ |
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<jhaluska> |
T0mW: Is this your first house? |
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<jhaluska> |
g1powermac_PB: What is the green screen for? |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
two things, one for producing commercials for the retail store my family owns, and two for my video podcast I'm prepping to produce |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
'morning folks |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Dr Mike - I'm assuming you're reading your logs... thanks for putting up the stuff you have on the wiki. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
I've been looking at the blob sources and wondering about a few things |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
In particular, there are a number of "Z2" files kicking around in the tree that don't appear to actually get built |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
This leads to some confusion over e.g. which serial port (ST vs. FF) blob uses for its console |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
There's also no sign of the P33 flash config in those sources, but the shiny new Z2 I picked up is definitely using an 8MiB part |
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<T0mW> |
jhaluska: no, had owned one years ago but have been renting for a long time now. |
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<SB-Zipit> |
New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/z2kernel/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: WikiStart edited by DrZiplok |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
I'm assuming the serial port must be exposed somewhere, as the only disaster recovery path looks to be xmodem download. |
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<T0mW> |
crazymonkeypants: there is no disaster recovery. No serial ports available. |
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<T0mW> |
crazymonkeypants: someone buzzed out where the JTAG lines should be on the PCB, I don't know how accurate that information might be, it should accurate. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
That'd be a start; is the info around somewhere? |
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<T0mW> |
crazymonkeypants: however, that was done on a version 0 board. I don't know how relevant the information would be to the version 1 board (current version). |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
(the trac search is busted or I'd have hit the logs already) |
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<T0mW> |
talk with g1powermac_PB, I think he knows where the URL is. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Thanks; I'll keep an eye out |
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<jhaluska> |
I forgot to ask T0mW work related stuff |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
actually, there is a serial port |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/jtag.html |
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<GPSFan> |
crazymonkeypants: the z2 uses the STUART for it's console, at 115k n81. I have mine set up and I can download kernels and rootfs's through it just fine. I have not been able to build a replacement blob from the supplied sources. I can compile it ok, and load it via the serial port, but it doesn't run. I have traced through the code and found that it successfully gets all the way through the assembly portions and dies in the early stages of main.c |
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<jhaluska> |
Anybody using a 4gb SDHC card? |
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<GPSFan> |
the pxa270 needs both nTRST and nSRST to properly halt the processor, I don't have nSRST hooked up to anything, and cannot halt the processor. I am using the flyswatter jtag interface and it reads out the processor id correctly. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
g1: thanks for the link, I can confirm that the pads on the Z2 board are in fact not masked |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
yup |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
I'll see if a BDI will talk to it |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
crazymonkeypants: the pics on that site was from my z2 :-) |
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<GPSFan> |
the STUART is ttyS2 and if set up in inittab I can log in over it. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Is SRST run directly off the reset button? |
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<GPSFan> |
the z2's reset goes through the Ti power control chip. HOT_RESET is tied directly to the push button |
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<GPSFan> |
I think the Ti chip is set up to shut off all but VRTC when it gets a HOT_RESET |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Nifty. When you built blob, did it bring in the stuff in src/blob/xlli/mainstone/z2.s or z2.inc? |
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<GPSFan> |
the jtag pins that art pulled up seem to be pulled up to VRTC |
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<GPSFan> |
crazymonkeypants: it's been a couple of months since I did that, I'll have to poke around my build directory to be sure. The first stage I built was byte-for-byte what was in the blob image I pulled from the flash. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
(busy absorbing the zipit2system site) |
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<GPSFan> |
ie. the assembly lang stuff, once it switched to C, the code diverged quite a bit. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Ok; assuming I can get something onto an SD card I should be able to see it in the disassembly |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
The LPC915 is an odd thing to find there |
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<GPSFan> |
crazymonkeypants: once you can get code to run from the sd card, you can dd blob, the kernel, and original rootfs of the flash |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Right; that means I need a linux machine to get stuff onto the card... |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
I'm a bit handicapped there yet |
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<GPSFan> |
it's better if you do, the best solution so far is an sd card with a vfat and an ext2 partition, the vfat has the script and a few binaries that then switchroot you over to the real rootfs on the ext2 partition. |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
or a VM |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Looks like OpenOCD has issues with the PXA270 still. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Oh, no, old message. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
Nifty. Looks like I need to get me one. |
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<GPSFan> |
my interest in jtaging the z2 recently increased due to a success I had using the flyswatter on an NSLU2 that I bricked. somehow the protection bits in the flsah got set to a random pattern, and it's redboot didn't have a unprotect command. the jtag worked like a champ, and I got excited about digging into the z2 again. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
The Z2 is a nifty little device |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
awful keyboard notwithstanding |
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g1powermac_PB would like to fireup his flyswatter on the zipit as well |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
The Mylo2 looked interesting, but I'm guessing Sony locked it down tight |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
GPSFan: lemme know how it goes |
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<GPSFan> |
I got a jpg viewer running on the frame buffer and the display does look nice. I posted some of them in the yahoo pictures area. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
I wonder why SPI mode only for the SD slot |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac_PB: so far the flyswatter can read the cpuid and taht's about it, I'm hoping Dave can come up with a place to connect nSRST. |
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<crazymonkeypants> |
The controller seems capable of 4-bit parallel |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
GPSFan: k |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
GPSFan: do you have anything between the z2 and the flyswatter? |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac_PB: wire |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
k, thought maybe you needed level shifting stuff |
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<GPSFan> |
#30 wires soldered to the board and a .1" 14 pin header. |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
its been awhile since I looked at the stuff |
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<GPSFan> |
the jtag on the pxa270 is 3.3v |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
k |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
meh, I got too many things going on lately. . . |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
this surgery thing has me a bit preoccupied. . . |
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