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[11:41:07] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe_: ping... How's things in Zipit land?
[11:41:40] <drmikecrowe_> Hey Ken, going great (but busy as can be). How's things on your side?
[11:42:23] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe_: pretty good, I think summer is finally here.
[11:42:38] <drmikecrowe_> no kidding. They predict 98 here tomorrow
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[11:44:52] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe_: got a question/request. I've been trying to build a bit-identical blob (bootloader) and have been having problems. I can get the first stage bit-for-bit identical, but the second stage is quite a bit different. I was wondering if I could get a tarball of the build dir that your folks used to build it. Including all the .o's etc. I may be having compiler/linker problems, and the .o's would sure help.
[11:45:50] <drmikecrowe> hmm, I don't have those, but I'll check with engineering. Can I get back to you on Monday?
[11:45:51] <GPSFan> they are predicting 80+ here. we had snow in the mountains yesterday...
[11:45:58] <drmikecrowe> LOL
[11:46:06] <GPSFan> sure, no problem.
[11:46:35] <GPSFan> thanks.
[11:46:38] <drmikecrowe> thanks. BTW, what will be different on the new bootloader?
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[11:47:27] <GPSFan> initailly nothing, just trying to rebuild it, but in the next stage a port of APEX is what I'm starting on.
[11:47:44] <drmikecrowe> cool. I'll see what I can do
[11:47:54] <GPSFan> that will allow mmc booting
[11:48:55] <GPSFan> the first step is to understand the low level initialization that blob does.
[11:49:19] <drmikecrowe> ah, interesting. I'll see what I can do. I don't know if they still have the old .o files, but we'll see
[11:50:15] <GPSFan> well they would just have to type make and they would all be re-generated. I'd also like th know what compiler/linker/binutils were used.
[11:50:55] <drmikecrowe> We used a commercial package from Timesys to do these builds. I bet that's the issue (come to think of it)
[11:51:49] <GPSFan> I've been able to re-create the kernel & rootfs withoout problems, as well as the first stage (all assembly lang) part of blob.
[11:52:04] <drmikecrowe> binary equal?
[11:52:29] <GPSFan> binary equal for the first stage, functional for the kernel & rootfs.
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[12:14:01] <drmikecrowe> Ken, what's first stage vs. 2nd stage?
[12:14:05] <drmikecrowe> GPSFan: ping
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[12:18:24] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe: the first stage bootloader is all assembly lang. it includes the very low level init routines for the PXA270, as well as the ram test and relocation routines. once the second stage bootloader is relocated from flash to working ram, it is jumpped to, at which point a small assembly lang routine is executed followed by clearing the bss and the jump to main.c at which point the bootloader is up and processing commands. Autoboot then happens.
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[12:22:48] <GPSFan> autoboot waits for a command, and if it fails to get one, the kernel is loaded from flash (along with the built-in initrmfs) the kernel is then executed.
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