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[07:43:37] <bryguy[lap]> yo
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[07:47:59] <g1powermac_PB> hey bryguy[lap] and GPSFan
[07:49:19] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: morning
[07:51:25] * g1powermac_PB is still trying to figure out why iwconfig won't work with wep on his zipit
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[08:05:37] <g1powermac_apl> definitely something funky going on here
[08:11:12] <g1powermac_apl> you know its interesting
[08:11:39] <g1powermac_apl> after reading through some examples, I should be able to set the ssid first on its own line then the wep key
[08:11:48] <g1powermac_apl> however, it dies with setting the ssid
[08:12:16] <g1powermac_apl> saying "SET failed on device eth0: Connection refused"
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[08:46:24] <g1powermac_apl> GPSFan, it looks like the zipit devs did all the wep stuff from within the main zipit app
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[11:16:55] <echelon_> whatŽs the scaled down version of gnome youŽre using called?
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[11:21:28] <echelon_> nevermind.. found it.. itŽs matchbox
[11:22:37] * g1powermac is trying to get qtopia running on his zipit
[11:23:51] <echelon_> has anyone tried fluxbox/openbox?
[11:24:08] <g1powermac> not to my knowledge
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[18:26:12] <simc> hey, if I want to cross compile a C program from my pc to my zipit, what is the best way to do that?
[18:26:52] <simc> my zipit currently runs OE
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[19:54:11] <g1powermac_PB> simc: I haven't played with oe, but I figure oe comes with a toolchain for you to use
[19:54:49] <simc> i'm trying to use scratchbox
[19:54:56] <simc> to build a binary for OE
[19:55:37] <g1powermac_PB> oh
[19:55:41] <simc> so I create a hello world program
[19:55:47] <g1powermac_PB> ahh
[19:55:55] <simc> but OE says "not found"
[19:56:01] <simc> when I try to run it
[19:56:05] <g1powermac_PB> hmm
[19:56:16] <simc> perms are set to execute
[19:56:28] <g1powermac_PB> unfortunately I can't help you much, since I haven't worked with oe
[19:56:52] <simc> what do you run on your zipit?
[19:57:05] <g1powermac_PB> I run apps off the shell script hack
[19:57:17] <simc> ah
[19:57:46] <g1powermac_PB> though right now I'm hitting a bunch of walls, mainly because I can't get my zipit to do wep encryption off the shell
[19:58:03] <simc> the SDL example works though, and it was apparently compiled with ScratchBox
[19:58:30] <simc> yeah, well at least that is easy in OE :)
[19:58:39] <g1powermac_PB> well, maybe. . .
[19:58:51] <g1powermac_PB> I think the problem is stemming from the marvell drivers
[19:59:02] <simc> got my wpa going
[19:59:16] <g1powermac_PB> I got iwconfig to run on my zipit, but it doesn't want to set a wep key
[19:59:30] <simc> oh okay
[19:59:38] <g1powermac_PB> iwconfig will let me connected to an unencrypted network just fine
[20:00:19] <g1powermac_PB> so I figure this issue would still exist in oe as well
[20:00:38] <simc> hmmm, yeah may do
[20:00:52] <simc> I haven't tried wep with mine
[20:01:07] <g1powermac_PB> if ya do, lemme know
[20:01:28] <simc> ok, might try on the weekend
[20:01:38] <simc> which compiler do you use
[20:01:49] <simc> the scrachbox uclibc one?
[20:01:53] <g1powermac_PB> I'm currently using a buildroot setup
[20:02:18] <g1powermac_PB> I'm building a bunch of info at zipit2system.sf.net
[20:02:30] <simc> oh cool
[20:03:16] <g1powermac_PB> my eventual goal is to get qtopia on the zipit
[20:03:38] <simc> wow, that will be cool
[20:03:58] <g1powermac_PB> I actually got qtopia to compile and stuff, obviously not tested yet
[20:04:23] <simc> my eventual goal is to get emacs and pygame (python + SDL), a lot less ambitious:)
[20:04:31] <g1powermac_PB> hehe :-)
[20:04:51] <simc> i tried the OE packages but I couldn't get them going
[20:05:20] <simc> so i'm trying compiling myself with scratchbox
[20:05:25] <g1powermac_PB> so far I've been happy with this buildroot I got going, everything tends to work
[20:05:43] <simc> someone ran a scratchbox tutorial at a LUG didn't they?
[20:06:02] <g1powermac_PB> not sure
[20:06:10] <simc> I might have to get in contact with this person to figure out what the missing piece of info is
[20:06:54] <simc> or Rossimo who compiled the SDL example
[20:07:07] <simc> might give hm a PM
[20:07:52] <simc> i'll have a look at your work too when I have time
[20:08:06] * g1powermac_PB currently is trying to get usb gadget working on his zipit. . .
[20:08:32] <g1powermac_PB> so I can utilize that usb port thats brought out to the expansion port and completely skip the wireless
[20:08:51] <g1powermac_PB> which would make debugging the wireless a heck of a lot easier
[20:09:06] <simc> yeah that would be neat
[20:09:54] <simc> I can imagine pluging a usb headset in to make it a phone
[20:10:19] <simc> but that is not my goal yet :)
[20:11:09] <simc> I think my problem is that I might be compiling for the wrong target
[20:11:33] <g1powermac_PB> that would definitely cause some issues :-)
[20:12:09] <simc> haha, well I haven't really had much experience with this sort of stuff yet
[20:12:44] <g1powermac_PB> to tell ya the truth, this really is the first time I've gotten this deep in an embedded system
[20:13:10] <simc> OE is arm-oabi (I think), where as the arm compiler i'm using targets uclibc (I think)
[20:13:54] <simc> yeah, i've programmed gameboy advances and the DS but this is my first time dealing with these issues
[20:19:31] <g1powermac_PB> ok, this is what I need: http://wiki.enneenne.com/index.php/PXA27x_UDC
[20:19:49] <g1powermac_PB> but man, its for 2.6.22, not 2.6.21 which is on the zipit
[20:19:53] <g1powermac_PB> this is gonna be fun
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[20:22:47] <simc> oh neat
[20:22:47] <simc> this project is going to make an embedded linux expert out of you
[20:22:49] <simc> okay, think I figured out my problem
[20:23:11] <simc> seems you can't use glibc, only uclibc
[20:23:19] <simc> and you must statically link
[20:24:15] <g1powermac_PB> yupper
[20:24:40] <g1powermac_PB> though again, I have no clue how oe works
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[20:24:50] <g1powermac_PB> but on the main zipit system, static linking is a must
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[20:25:22] <simc> do you know the reason why it must be uclibc and not glibc?
[20:25:51] <simc> I guess I should double check that it must be
[20:27:34] <g1powermac_PB> not really, no
[20:27:51] * g1powermac_PB is far from an expert on these things :-)
[20:43:01] <g1powermac_PB> simc: btw, if you (or anyone else here for that matter) somehow bricks your zipit, PLEASE let me know, I got a great cause for it
[20:44:11] <simc> okay, i'll keep that in mind :)
[20:46:25] <g1powermac_PB> I know someone on another channel who has access to a xray system that will be able to find all the traces on the board
[20:46:33] <g1powermac_PB> and hopefully find the jtag and serial ports
[20:47:45] <simc> ah yeah, does that give a live zipit cancer though?
[20:48:14] <g1powermac_PB> amazingly no, but there's always some risk of damage during the process
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[21:29:52] <simc> does anyone know if it is possible to run glibc compiled programs on OE?
[21:30:52] <simc> I have a hello world program compiled with glibc and statically linked that says "Illegal Instruction"
[21:31:12] <simc> uclibc version works fine
[21:32:18] <simc> (i asked eariler but I thought someone might know now)
[21:34:05] <bryguy[lap]> I haven't a clue
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