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<bryguy[lap]> |
can the zipit use 4GB minisd cards? |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
morning drmikecrowe |
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<drmikecrowe> |
howdy g1powermac_PB |
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<drmikecrowe> |
Out of curiosity, what part of the country are you locate? |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
I'm in KY |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
hey, do you know the reason behind the specific toolchain chosen in scratchbox for the zipit? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
which one, the open source one? |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
there's a closed source version? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
No, I didn't know if you were asking about the toolchains we use internally |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
oh |
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<drmikecrowe> |
we felt the OpenEmbedded platform (if we could support it) would give us a large body of programs that could eventually be ported. |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
well, I'm just wondering why the specific arm-gcc4.1-uclibc20061004 toolchain chosen for scratchbox |
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<drmikecrowe> |
That I don't know. I *think* it was magon who was experimenting with that (not sure if Rossimo did too or now). I was pushing for the OE port |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
k |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
I'll wait for magon to show up :-) |
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<drmikecrowe> |
He's in Prague (in college), so it might be a bit. I sent him an email, but haven't heard back yet. |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
hmm, k |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
woot, ok, finally got some help from the scratchbox people |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
hello Magon |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
I hear you're the one who setup the scratchbox port for the zipit |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
wanted to ask you why you chose the specific arm-gcc4.1-uclibc20061004 toolchain |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
I'm trying to get qtopia to cross compile using that scratchbox toolchain and its failing do to an option selected in the config for the uclibc in that toolchain |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
s/do/due |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
so now I need to either recompile that toolchain in sb, which isn't super easy, or use a different toolchain |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
and was wondering if that specific toolchain was needed |
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<drmikecrowe> |
hey Magon, wb! |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
hmm, going to work, bbiab |
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<g1powermac> |
did I miss anything? |
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<drmikecrowe> |
Not yet -- Magon might be in class. |
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<g1powermac> |
k |
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<g1powermac> |
woot, woot, my zipit came in, and also the cable connector for the expansion port |
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<g1powermac> |
now I can actually check this thing out :-) |
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<g1powermac> |
dang this thing is awesome |
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<Rossimo> |
g1powermav: the uclib version was just a guess of mine. pick w/e you'd like |
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<g1powermac> |
Rossimo, ahhh, hmm, ok |
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<g1powermac> |
interesting |
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<g1powermac> |
woot, the seller even gave me a 1 gb minisd card |
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<g1powermac> |
bwahah, awesome |
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<g1powermac> |
bah, my card reader won't do minisd, need one of those sd to minisd things |
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<g1powermac> |
thought it did minisd |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: where did your qt build fail? early on or later? |
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<g1powermac> |
about mid, i actually found whats going on if you want to read the thread |
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<g1powermac> |
http://www.busybox.net/lists/buildroot/2007-September/005300.html |
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<g1powermac> |
its a long thread |
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<g1powermac> |
I'm thinking of not using scratchbox and just going with a simple buildroot to get the toolchain |
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<GPSFan> |
I just built qtopia4 with my buildroot setup and it ran to completion, created .installed, but I can't find any of the bin's in my rootfs. there is stuff in /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/imageformats, but that's all. |
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<g1powermac> |
ahh, yes, it should be in the build directory in the dir called 'image' |
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<g1powermac> |
btw, how did you build it? |
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<GPSFan> |
I did make menuconfig in the buildroot dir, selected qtopia4 and addes the 16& 24bit color depths, built static. |
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<g1powermac> |
huh |
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<g1powermac> |
interesting |
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<GPSFan> |
then make, it took about 45min, doing nothing but building qtopia |
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<g1powermac> |
you see, I've been doing the qtopia stuff on the outside |
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<g1powermac> |
using qtopia's configuration stuff |
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<GPSFan> |
where is the image dir supposed to be? |
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<g1powermac> |
well, not sure how its going to work when its built in buildroot |
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<g1powermac> |
the qtopia stuff might be in /opt/qtopia in the buildroot image |
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<GPSFan> |
so such luck, the buildroot .mk file must need some work. I'll check out a later version from svn. |
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<g1powermac> |
I just need a toolchain. . . |
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<g1powermac> |
can you get buildroot to only make you a toolchain? |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: sort of if you don't add any packages beyond busybox, it will build the toolchain, uclibc, busybox, and give you a rootfs. to build stuff external, just point your makefile at where in the staging_dir that your compiler is. |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm |
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<GPSFan> |
I build lots of stuff outside, using various compiler versions. sometimes I never use the rootfs stuff at all. |
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<GPSFan> |
looks like there has been lots of discussion on qtopia4 on the buildroot ml, lots of patches since my svn version, as recently as this morning... |
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<g1powermac> |
yea, I got the latest snapshot from their site |
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<g1powermac> |
is there any specific arm stuff I need to select? |
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<g1powermac> |
obviously selected xscale stuff |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: look at the dotconfig (.config) I sent you it should have the arch info as well as the compiler, binutils, uclibc, rev's |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm, I didn't receive anything |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: maybe I pastebin'd it. |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm |
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<g1powermac> |
well, I'm building my own version atm. . . |
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<g1powermac> |
not sure if it will work, but I'll give it a shot :-) |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: one thing you will need is to enable the g++ compiler to be built. |
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<g1powermac> |
dang, I had a feeling I should have done that |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: I did send you my .config last monday afternoon. |
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<g1powermac> |
odd, never received it |
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<g1powermac> |
g1powermac@yahoo.com |
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<g1powermac> |
that a #1 and not a letter l |
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<GPSFan> |
that's where I sent it. I'll send it again, maybe it got spamfiltered out. |
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<GPSFan> |
on its way again. |
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<g1powermac> |
alrighty |
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<g1powermac> |
odd, still didn't receive anything |
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<GPSFan> |
don't know why, but here it is as a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/994715 |
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<GPSFan> |
that has qt enabled as well as wavemon and a few others. your buildroot source won't have the wavemon stuff, but make menuconfig or make oldconfig should fix it. |
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<GPSFan> |
oops I made that one befor I did the qt. sorry my bad... |
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<g1powermac> |
ok |
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<g1powermac> |
well, I'm already running my build again with c++ now enabled |
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<GPSFan> |
ok, that should work ok, at least now you have a .config to refer to. |
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<g1powermac> |
yea, thanks |
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<g1powermac> |
I tell you, now that I got a zipit, I really think it will be a perfect device for what I want to do in terms of the way its built and such |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: you open it up yet? ;>) |
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<g1powermac> |
not yet |
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g1powermac ponders how long buildroot takes to compile all this stuff the first round |
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<g1powermac> |
of course all of this is useless without a sd to minisd card thing |
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<g1powermac> |
must pick one up today or tomorrow |
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<g1powermac> |
oh, I'm also compiling lbstdc++, not sure if that was necessary |
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<GPSFan> |
it is |
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<g1powermac> |
well, that was a good decision :-) |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: what version of qt are you trying to build? 4.3.? 4.4.0, 4.4.1, 4.5.? |
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<g1powermac> |
latest version |
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<GPSFan> |
so 4.5.0 qt-embedded-linux-opensource |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm, no, not qt-embedded |
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<g1powermac> |
qtopia-opensourc-4.3.1 |
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<g1powermac> |
qtopia-opensource-4.3.1 |
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<GPSFan> |
so not from this selection: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm, guess not |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm, I'm a bit confused with buildroots toolchain |
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<GPSFan> |
hmm. what I built before was qtopia-core-opensource-src-4.3.2 I'm now trying: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.0-snapshot-20080325.tar.gz |
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<g1powermac> |
I'm looking at the staging_dir but I'm not really seeing any binaries |
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<GPSFan> |
look here: /buildroot/build_arm/staging_dir/bin$ |
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<GPSFan> |
look here: /buildroot/build_arm/staging_dir/bin/ |
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<g1powermac> |
btw, this is what I got: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.1.tar.gz |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm, I'm in there, but there's no binaries in that dir |
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<GPSFan> |
there should be several starting with the arm-linux-uclibc- prefix |
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<g1powermac> |
all thats in there is makedevs |
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<GPSFan> |
then something is amuck. there should also be some in: /buildroot/build_arm/staging_dir/arm-linux-uclibc/bin |
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<GPSFan> |
did your buildroot finish? |
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<g1powermac> |
yup |
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<GPSFan> |
did it build busybox for arm? |
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<g1powermac> |
its suppose to. . . |
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<GPSFan> |
latest version of buildroot from svn? |
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<g1powermac> |
latest snapshot from their site |
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<GPSFan> |
pastebin the last screenful of messages as the build finished. |
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<g1powermac> |
http://www.pastebin.ca/994797 |
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<GPSFan> |
can you scroll back several screens worth, that wasn't quite enough. |
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<g1powermac> |
http://www.pastebin.ca/994807 |
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<g1powermac> |
obviously I didn't change the project name and such. . . |
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<GPSFan> |
yeah, it looks like it didn't build the compilers how long did it take? |
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<g1powermac> |
it took quite a bit |
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<g1powermac> |
wonder why it didn't build |
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<GPSFan> |
beats me, that's really odd. |
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<g1powermac> |
well, I'm trying it again |
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<g1powermac> |
well, I'll try your config |
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<GPSFan> |
k, I got the same basic result with the newer qt 4.4.0 using the new makefile from the latest buildroot. with the addition of errors from the buildroot strip changing and the qt snapshot being different from what was in the makefile. arrgg. |
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<GPSFan> |
no binaries being built. lots of .o files, so things were compiled, but apparently not linked, or installed. |
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<g1powermac> |
huh |
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<g1powermac> |
odd |
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<GPSFan> |
time for lunch.. |
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<g1powermac> |
GPSFan, woot, I'm seeing binaries popping up now in the proper place during this run |
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<GPSFan> |
good deal.. |
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<g1powermac> |
GPSFan, it worked nicely |
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<g1powermac> |
running my qtopia build against the new toolchain |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: nice. |
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<g1powermac> |
and. . . .it died |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: same error as before? |
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<g1powermac> |
nope, different one |
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<GPSFan> |
trying to compile what? |
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<g1powermac> |
http://www.pastebin.ca/995064 |
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<GPSFan> |
g1powermac: interesting, my first build doesn't have a qunixsocket.o although it has the .cpp file. I wondew why mind didn't try to compile that and yours did. |
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<g1powermac> |
well, I'm compiling outside of buildroot |
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<GPSFan> |
yes, but with basically the same compiler. and uclibc headers. |
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<g1powermac> |
gah, you know, stuff is just not going for me here |
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<g1powermac> |
got myself a new card reader to read minisd cards and it ain't working :( |
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<GPSFan> |
;>( |
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<g1powermac> |
sigh, is it the card, or the reader, I have no clue |
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<g1powermac> |
the reader does read a cf card just fine |
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<g1powermac> |
I wonder if this thing needs some stupid adapter, its weird |
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<GPSFan> |
cf & sd use very different interfaces. in the multi-card readers I've seen, it is often a different chip inside for each type. |
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<g1powermac> |
hmm |
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<g1powermac> |
bah, getting one of these micro sd packages with minisd and full sd adapters is cheaper than this card reader |
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<g1powermac> |
might as get it and I'll have a second card |
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<g1powermac> |
as *well |
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<GPSFan> |
I have several micro-mini sd adapters. real cheap, as are the micro-standard adapters. |
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<g1powermac> |
ok, got an adapter coming from amazon |
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<g1powermac> |
hate not having a decent electronics store around |
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<g1powermac> |
ok, back to the software issue at hand |
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<g1powermac> |
this last post from the thread that is describing the old issue I had sounds interesting: http://www.busybox.net/lists/buildroot/2007-September/005338.html |
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<g1powermac> |
because it mentions bzero and bcopy which are errors in my current problem |
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<g1powermac> |
I updated the uclibc config and am recompiling again |
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<g1powermac> |
you know, I hate to say this, but I think I stuck the minisd card in the memory stick slot. . . .and that this card reader really doesn't read minisd cards without an adapter :( |
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<g1powermac> |
would be nice if the reader had some form of markings on it and/or manual telling you whats what. . . |
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<g1powermac> |
hopefully I didn't damage the minisd card |
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g1powermac can't believe he did that. . oh well, its been a long day |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
these things happen |
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<g1powermac> |
good news everyone, I actually got qtopia to compile using buildroot/uclibc toolchain for xscale |
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<g1powermac> |
now of course I can't test it till I get a minisd to sd adapter |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
coool |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
I'm ordering a Z2 right now |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
ok, I was going to buy one, but then the site decided not to accept my order |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
k, ordered |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
alrighty, got mine cracked open, but unfortunately the pics I took kinda suck due to a pathetic camera |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
:) |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
meh, one pic is out of order: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77471288@N00/sets/72157604702887753/ |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
those pictures seem decent (for flickr) |
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<g1powermac_PB> |
yea, until you hit the all sizes button |
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<bryguy[lap]> |
ah, I didn't know about that button |
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