IRC Logs

20. 04 2008

2008 4
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa So
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        
◀ ◂   ▸ ▶
[00:06:44] *** FireEgl has joined #ZipIt
[03:24:33] *** Magon has joined #zipit
[04:59:47] *** Magon has quit IRC
[05:01:30] *** Magon has joined #zipit
[06:46:32] *** g1powermac_PB has joined #zipit
[06:52:03] *** g1powermac_PB has quit IRC
[07:16:43] *** g1powermac_PB has joined #zipit
[07:20:22] *** Magon has quit IRC
[07:51:55] *** Magon has joined #zipit
[08:09:02] *** Magon has quit IRC
[08:11:06] *** Magon has joined #zipit
[08:57:01] *** g1powermac_PB has quit IRC
[09:07:08] *** GPSFan has joined #zipit
[09:58:19] *** asantoni has joined #zipit
[10:23:24] *** Magon has quit IRC
[10:46:28] *** Magon has joined #zipit
[11:19:01] *** Magon has quit IRC
[11:29:58] *** asantoni_ has joined #zipit
[11:39:43] *** g1powermac_PB has joined #zipit
[11:40:25] *** Rossimo has quit IRC
[11:40:38] *** Rossimo has joined #zipit
[11:44:04] *** asantoni has quit IRC
[11:58:48] *** Rossimo has quit IRC
[11:59:00] *** Rossimo has joined #zipit
[12:23:04] *** ChanServ has quit IRC
[12:24:16] *** ChanServ has joined #zipit
[12:24:16] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
[12:38:21] *** Rossimo has quit IRC
[12:38:31] *** Rossimo has joined #zipit
[13:39:19] *** g1powermac_PB has quit IRC
[13:57:32] *** g1powermac has joined #zipit
[17:29:30] *** drmikecrowe has joined #zipit
[17:40:59] <g1powermac> hello drmikecrowe
[17:41:45] <drmikecrowe> hey g1powermac
[17:42:19] <g1powermac> I just recently found out about the zipit 2 and am really interested in building a custom app for it
[17:42:33] <drmikecrowe> Excellent! What can I do to help
[17:42:41] <g1powermac> already got a zipit 2 coming and am learning on how to get qtopia running on it
[17:43:27] <g1powermac> I just wanted to let you know what I'm doing and will be asking questions soon once I get my zipit :-)
[17:43:54] <drmikecrowe> vg -- I may not be the best resource (Rossimo would be better), but I'm willing to help however possible.
[17:44:09] <g1powermac> cool, thanks
[17:44:52] <g1powermac> I figure once I get qtopia running on the zipit, it would then make a perfect platform for custom apps with a nice gui
[17:46:25] <g1powermac> I'm hoping to try to get qtopia on it via the simple app loading method with the minisd card, and not building a complete OE system
[17:47:02] <drmikecrowe> I know magon (not online now) had gpe running some apps (that was nice cuz it emulate the mouse via the keypad)
[17:47:09] <g1powermac> would be alot easier as it takes forever to build qtopia to begin with
[17:47:43] <g1powermac> ahh, nice
[17:47:55] <g1powermac> I also saw there was some work getting opie running on it as well
[17:50:19] <drmikecrowe> I've been tied up on some server stuff, so I haven't gotten back to seeing what the status is
[17:53:28] <g1powermac> I'm really excited about the z2, besides the odd bit with the agreement for the wiki, I think it'll be a really useful system
[17:54:11] <drmikecrowe> You should have seen the first agreement :D
[17:54:36] <g1powermac> I've heard :-)
[17:54:41] <drmikecrowe> Trying to open up but protect IP gets fun, but I think we came up with a good compromise
[17:55:24] <g1powermac> it isn't bad, but I do have a question about it. . .will have to ask when i come back
[17:55:35] <g1powermac> bbl
[17:55:46] *** g1powermac has quit IRC
[17:57:10] <drmikecrowe> tyt
[18:08:43] *** g1powermac_PB has joined #zipit
[18:09:07] <g1powermac_PB> I'm back :-)
[18:09:15] <g1powermac_PB> alright here's my question about the agreement
[18:09:07] <g1powermac_PB> what happens if I decide to make an expansion card that will attach to the expansion port and I decide to open source the hardware layout and such?
[18:09:39] <g1powermac_PB> obviously the layout and schematic is going to show the pinout of the expansion port
[18:09:56] <g1powermac_PB> not sure how that would work with the agreement
[18:11:05] <drmikecrowe> g1powermac_PB: sorry, back (i'm in and out) -- send us an email asking that and let us officially respond
[18:13:39] <g1powermac_PB> k
[18:14:47] *** simc has joined #zipit
[18:28:47] *** drmikecrowe has quit IRC
[18:50:27] <g1powermac_PB> hmm, reading over the irc logs. . .
[18:50:58] <g1powermac_PB> Rossimo: have you done anything with qtopia on the z2? I see you were thinking about it back in february
[18:54:01] <Rossimo> g1powermac_PB: no, i have yet to try anything with qtopia, yet
[18:54:25] <g1powermac_PB> Rossimo: k, well, I'll be playing with it as soon as I get my z2 :-)
[18:54:43] <Rossimo> fyi, i've got a full image at http://clemsonlinux.org/~rossimo/oe-zipit2-image-compressed.tar
[18:54:52] <Rossimo> you may want to play around with that
[18:54:53] <g1powermac_PB> will be trying it without using oe, and just doing the application loading bit using the minisd card
[18:55:24] <Rossimo> interesting stuff, firefox, matchbox desktop, etc
[18:55:29] <g1powermac_PB> interesting
[18:55:29] <Rossimo> ah
[18:55:31] <Rossimo> cool
[18:55:35] <Rossimo> well, i've got to run
[18:55:37] <Rossimo> ttyl
[18:55:45] <g1powermac_PB> k, cya later
[18:55:47] *** Rossimo has quit IRC
[19:05:33] *** drmikecrowe has joined #zipit
[19:15:42] <g1powermac_PB> wb drmikecrowe
[19:16:14] <drmikecrowe> thanks! Today Sunday night cooking for family
[19:16:37] <g1powermac_PB> mmm, food :-)
[19:17:58] <g1powermac_PB> oo, quick question, is the usb that is brought out on the expansion port host or device?
[19:18:58] <drmikecrowe> hmmm, good question -- let me see if I have that
[19:19:22] * g1powermac_PB hopes for host :-)
[19:20:31] <g1powermac_PB> I got an instant project idea for it if its host
[19:23:10] <drmikecrowe> sorry, looks like it is device
[19:23:16] <g1powermac_PB> dang
[19:29:50] <g1powermac_PB> hmm, what kind of access can you get if you hooked up the z2 usb's port to a computer?
[19:30:57] <g1powermac_PB> somebody on #edev mentioned that blob supported usb. . .
[19:44:31] <simc> well the back of the Z2 has a usb port
[19:45:14] <simc> so you could use a usb network adaptor
[19:45:45] <g1powermac_PB> yea, true
[19:46:06] <g1powermac_PB> but if we can gain access to blob, things will get easier for some development
[19:46:25] <simc> hmm
[19:48:28] *** Rossimo has joined #zipit
[19:48:46] <g1powermac_PB> wb Rossimo
[19:48:54] <Rossimo> hello
[19:49:34] <g1powermac_PB> Rossimo: been trying to determine if there's any shot at gaining access to blog over that usb port in the expansion port
[19:49:56] <g1powermac_PB> err, s/blog/blob
[19:50:13] <Rossimo> i'm not sure
[19:50:22] <g1powermac_PB> man, my fingers really want to type 'blog' instead of 'blob'
[19:51:38] <g1powermac_PB> supposedly blob supports serial over usb but there doesn't seem to be any usb stuff in blob according to GPSFan
[19:51:52] <g1powermac_PB> well, in the blob binary in the zipit
[19:52:35] <Rossimo> i think GPSFan would be able to answer that question better
[19:58:06] <g1powermac_PB> GPSFan: I might just get the cable version of the connector and try wiring up a cheapo usb cable to it
[20:01:50] <g1powermac_PB> hmm, wonder if I should get something else at digikey so I don't get hit with their $5 handling fee. . .
[20:02:19] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: sounds like a plan, let us all know how easy is is to get the connector. maybe buying a few might be in order, and some of us might buy them from you.
[20:02:33] <g1powermac_PB> anyone want a connector? I'll order them in one batch and ship it out to you for $6 a piece which includes the shipping
[20:02:36] <GPSFan> I know I would
[20:03:20] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: you might ask again during the week, for folks that only show up then.
[20:03:31] <g1powermac_PB> k
[20:04:01] <g1powermac_PB> you know, I'll order enough now to hit $25 and will sell them off to all who want one later
[20:06:43] <g1powermac_PB> I'll prolly keep two of them for my self for different cables and sell off the other three
[20:10:01] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: I'd probably take 2 just to have a spare.
[20:10:23] <g1powermac_PB> kewl
[20:14:54] <g1powermac_PB> hmm
[20:15:48] <g1powermac_PB> you know its odd that the page on digikey.com showing the part shows it only has 36 contacts
[20:16:55] <g1powermac_PB> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=H11462-ND
[20:17:35] <g1powermac_PB> before I hit the submit button, i really wonder why its showing 36 contacts when the expansion port is 40
[20:17:48] <GPSFan> IIRC the expansion port is 36
[20:17:54] <g1powermac_PB> huh
[20:18:01] <g1powermac_PB> then why does the pinout show 40. . .
[20:18:09] <GPSFan> the wiki entry I had has vanished since I last looked.
[20:18:18] <GPSFan> don't hit submit yet...
[20:18:36] <g1powermac_PB> I'm not
[20:19:33] <GPSFan> best ask drmikecrowe for clarification.
[20:19:53] * g1powermac_PB gently prods drmikecrowe for clarification :-)
[20:21:11] *** Rossimo has quit IRC
[20:22:08] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: I count 36 in this picture: http://www.drtune.com/zipit2/
[20:23:00] <g1powermac_PB> me too
[20:23:12] <g1powermac_PB> I ponder if the missing four are ground lines. . .
[20:23:22] <GPSFan> or the shell
[20:23:45] <g1powermac_PB> yea
[20:23:56] <GPSFan> did you open yours up?
[20:24:09] <g1powermac_PB> I don't have it yet :-)
[20:24:11] <GPSFan> duhhh
[20:24:15] <GPSFan> ;P
[20:24:40] <GPSFan> bbl
[20:25:22] <g1powermac_PB> hmm, this is odd, looking at the datasheet for the connector
[20:32:40] <g1powermac_PB> ok, yea, I think there's four pads that hook upto the pcb used for ground shield and such
[20:35:19] <g1powermac_PB> well, I ordered them
[20:51:46] *** Rossimo_mobile has joined #zipit
[21:01:41] <GPSFan> g1powermac_PB: good deal
[21:05:56] *** g1powermac_PB has left #zipit
[21:06:02] *** g1powermac_PB has joined #zipit
[21:06:20] <g1powermac_PB> crap, accidentally closed this channel on my xchat
[21:08:25] <g1powermac_PB> man, I really want to hook up a camera to the zipit, it'd be awesome
[21:24:55] *** Rossimo_mobile has quit IRC
[21:41:48] <simc> i don't get the SD card option in MyTunez
[21:41:58] <simc> anyone know why?
[21:44:13] <drmikecrowe> simc -- I think your music needs to be in a folder name "Music" (or "music")
[21:44:51] <drmikecrowe> g1powermac_PB: i haven't looked at the connector since I posted the wiki entry. Let me check
[21:45:00] <simc> yeah, thanks, I figured it would have been something like that. I should have rtfm :)
[21:46:46] <drmikecrowe> g1powermac_PB: Yeah, I think the rest are grounds
[21:57:19] <g1powermac_PB> drmikecrowe: k, cool
[21:58:09] <g1powermac_PB> drmikecrowe: hey, would you know of a camera module that will easily hook up to the interface brought out to the expansion port?
[21:59:03] <drmikecrowe> g1powermac_PB: We brought those signals out for that very purpose. I'm not sure of the timing of it, though.
[21:59:32] <g1powermac_PB> yea, I'm just finding it hard to find a camera module that I can easily purchase
[22:08:41] <g1powermac_PB> well, time for sleep
[22:08:43] <g1powermac_PB> gnight all
[22:08:53] *** g1powermac_PB has quit IRC
[22:41:46] *** asantoni_ has quit IRC
[23:07:21] *** simc has quit IRC
[23:08:46] *** GPSFan has quit IRC