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[07:39:19] <nhoman> bryank: hope you read the logs and see this. I keep missing your messages because im in Ireland. Am pretty much asleep or heading that way when you message.
[07:39:36] <nhoman> it's not so much about getting wireless working but getting it added to the base image.
[07:42:49] <nhoman> I used the same ipkg approach to get wireless built and working but the whole point of OE is to get whatever package and deps transferred automaticall
[07:43:14] <nhoman> Your help with kdrive is very useful - for me at least.Thanks for that.
[07:44:08] <Magon> i have working gpe-login :-)
[07:44:15] <Magon> but have not gone any futher
[07:48:11] <nhoman> I was looking at this and making changes accordingly last night. Didnt get so far. anyway check out the link.
[07:48:12] <nhoman> http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/79/9/
[07:48:36] <nhoman> Yeah i built the x-11 or gpe image last night ... really need a mouse!
[07:48:50] <nhoman> spent a lot of time typing on the Z2 !! Is there a damn tab button?
[07:49:07] <nhoman> also the repeating keys when typing fast are a nightmare
[07:49:22] <drmikecrowe> I started to notice the repeating keys the other day. Did something change? I dont' remember it being that way when ethicalclone first released
[07:49:41] <nhoman> Eventualy i read the above article and suspect that a lot of changes are needed and tried to implement the recommendations
[07:52:22] <nhoman> drmikecrowe: AFAIK its always been there. I don't think i have the skill to fix it
[07:52:45] <nhoman> seriously though is there a tab button? Might take a look at the keymap later...
[07:52:48] <Magon> nhoman: tab is the big button in the middle above keyboard
[07:53:09] <Magon> and mouse is probably not needed...i just need to load keymap to X
[07:53:19] <nhoman> you're joking *I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YESTERDAY* :-)
[07:53:42] <Magon> nhoman: sorry..i have not done this so i have not been telling it around
[07:53:42] <nhoman> Twould be nice to control the backlight via some key too.
[07:53:57] <nhoman> Magon: I should have realised is all!
[07:54:49] <Magon> and it smoothly connects to ad-hoc on my laptop
[07:57:13] <Magon> it just take ages to boot
[07:57:59] <Magon> i have strange problem..when i connect to it by ssh it freezes my shell
[07:58:28] <drmikecrowe> nhoman: does the ... key in the lower left have one? I honestly haven't looked
[07:58:33] <nhoman> Magon: did you manage to get the wireless packages added to the rootfs?
[07:58:33] <drmikecrowe> (but noticed it when I was in a shell too)
[07:58:45] <nhoman> drmikecrowe: that's ctrl AFAIK
[07:58:48] <Magon> drmikecrowe: i added it to gpe-image :-)
[07:58:59] <Magon> not best way but working for now
[07:59:50] <nhoman> drmikecrowe: Magon says the zipit button is tab. I don't know how i didn't cop!
[08:01:49] <drmikecrowe> lol -- I didn't even think to try that
[08:01:49] <drmikecrowe> lol
[08:01:54] <nhoman> :-)
[08:02:20] <nhoman> magon: shell on zipit freezes or your laptops shell freezes?
[08:03:05] <Magon> shell on laptop
[08:03:17] <Magon> after i put right password i get nothing but freezed shell
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[08:07:52] <nhoman> Magon: strange ... can you try from a different machine ? or even from the z2 itself (to itself) if you can afford to reboot it
[08:08:21] <Magon> when i log from console it works
[08:08:52] <Magon> i works with base image and doennt with gpe-image
[08:09:20] <Magon> and i think that Xfbdev works well
[08:12:16] <nhoman> Sorry - Ive got to run out. BBL
[08:12:18] <Magon> bye
[08:32:18] <Magon> sshd says: opentty no such file or dir
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[09:23:57] <Magon> in base image ssh works correctly in gpe image it doesnt
[09:23:59] <Magon> why????
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[09:33:42] <Magon> for some strange reason i need to mount devpts twice!!
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[11:14:01] <Magon> i have working cursors...xkb extension is nice
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[11:19:20] <bryank> nhoman: when you see this, r55 in svn got wpa_supplicant and iw* into the tarfile for me
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[13:13:26] <Rossimo> so, i need to build wireless-image instead of base-image?
[13:18:16] <Rossimo> from now on?
[13:34:26] <Magon> Rossimo: no i simply added to base-image wireless-tools
[13:34:29] <Rossimo> ah
[13:38:19] <Magon> and we need to change xserver-kdrive....it disables xkb extension and it it useful for us
[13:53:44] <Magon> grr.. it disables xkb extension which is useful for us
[13:54:07] <Rossimo> np
[13:58:50] <bryank> Rossimo: you don't need to build wireless-image, but that is one way to do it
[13:59:24] <Rossimo> thanks. btw, where can I find a list of all the OE packages?
[13:59:34] <bryank> org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb
[13:59:36] <bryank> TONS of stuff ;-)
[13:59:54] <Rossimo> wow, yeah
[14:01:33] <bryank> i should note that not all of those are packages, but there are still lots that are
[14:01:46] <bryank> Magon: on xkb: does it help if you run Xfbdev +extension xkb"
[14:01:53] <Magon> bryank: no it is disabled at compile time
[14:01:57] <bryank> oh, ok, dangit
[14:07:56] <Rossimo> hmm, dillo might be interesting to try
[14:08:44] <bryank> Magon: if you edit packages/xorg-server/xserver-kdrive-common.inc and remove the --disable-xkb (and rebuild the server), does that work?
[14:08:53] <bryank> you'll probably have to remove a bunch of files from tmp-*/stamps/ to get it to rebuild
[14:09:14] <Magon> bryank: yes
[14:09:21] <Magon> i have it with that modification working it already
[14:09:24] <bryank> oh, ok -- so we should probably override that locally, somehow
[14:09:30] <Magon> yes..that is possiblem
[14:09:32] <Magon> possible
[14:09:50] <Magon> just need to copy it to zipitZ2BBfiles and commit to our svn
[14:10:01] <bryank> yeah, but do we want to keep a whole copy of the xorg-xserver tree?
[14:13:07] <bryank> maybe it's not a huge deal though
[14:13:41] <Magon> not just that one bb file i think
[14:13:45] <Magon> maybe some sub-folders
[14:13:58] <bryank> and maybe all the needed patches, but i'm not sure on that
[14:14:09] <bryank> i'd probably just have to do some actual testing, instead of speculating ;-)
[14:14:13] <Magon> yes
[14:14:20] <Magon> you will see if it is right in logs
[14:14:46] <bryank> ok, i'll try to test it out here
[14:23:12] <Rossimo> how big of an SD card will i need?
[14:27:45] <Magon> ~50MB
[14:27:50] <Magon> 50MB for gpe-image
[15:34:06] <Rossimo> hey, i've seem to run into a problem while building the final image
[15:34:07] <Rossimo> http://zipit.pastebin.com/d6086baa0
[15:34:11] <Rossimo> using "bitbake base-image"
[15:34:14] <Rossimo> anyone happen to know why?
[15:39:49] <Rossimo> also, here's the output of running bitbake the second time: http://zipit.pastebin.com/d5c4f81aa
[15:42:53] <Magon> Rossimo: i have never seen something similar
[15:44:58] <Rossimo> wow. i am stupid. i misspelled the OE directory for my $PATH
[15:48:08] <Rossimo> actually, no i didn't. hmm.
[15:48:31] <Rossimo> brb
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[16:22:57] <bryank> Magon: that did work; i see Xfbdev pulled in libxkb.la when linking -- i'll check this into svn shortly
[16:23:23] <Magon> bryank: thx
[16:44:16] <Rossimo> hmm, how can I change from using jffs2?
[16:44:32] <Rossimo> apperently ubuntu 7.10 doesn't support lzo compression for jffs2
[16:48:13] <bryank> Rossimo: reformat the sd card? or isn't that what you meant?
[16:48:42] <Rossimo> no, i'm having problems building the original base-image.
[16:48:46] <Rossimo> mkfs.jffs2: Unknown compressor name lzo
[16:48:50] <bryank> still the same issue as the pastebin from earlier?
[16:48:53] <Rossimo> yeah
[16:49:01] <bryank> i was trying to figure out what the deal might have been with that, but couldn't (at least not yet)
[16:49:08] <bryank> looks like IMAGE_PKGTYPE wasn't defined, or something
[16:49:21] <Rossimo> i thought openzipit image didn't use jffs2
[16:49:39] <Magon> Rossimo: in current setting it wont build jffs2
[16:51:57] <Rossimo> in line 268 of conf/bitbake.conf, i can remove the "-x lzo" setting
[16:52:02] <Rossimo> but i'm still running into other problems
[16:52:21] <Magon> Rossimo: that is not good idea
[16:52:26] <Rossimo> ok
[16:52:35] <Magon> try to find IMAGE_FSTYPES and remove jffs2
[16:52:48] <Magon> there should be one in build/conf/local.conf
[16:53:06] <Rossimo> IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar", no jffs2 there
[17:03:23] <bryank> Magon: r56 -- i removed as much as i thought i could get away with, and the resulting package does work for me, though more can probably be removed
[17:03:36] <Magon> bryank: ok thx
[17:11:13] <Rossimo> what is IMAGE_PKGTYPE suppose to be?
[17:11:26] <bryank> ipk, i think, but i'm not sure where it's set
[17:12:50] <Rossimo> well
[17:12:51] <Rossimo> that worked
[17:13:02] <Rossimo> IMAGE_PKGTYPE = "ipk" in local.conf
[17:13:42] <bryank> hmm -- the various package_*.bbclass files weak-set IMAGE_PKGTYPE, but nothing sets it strongly, so the local.conf thing overrode whatever OE chose
[17:14:14] <Rossimo> i wonder why it works for both of you, but not me
[17:14:14] <Rossimo> weird
[17:14:21] <bryank> different oe checkout times possibly?
[17:14:26] <bryank> but that's a pure guess
[17:14:32] <Rossimo> maybe
[17:14:43] <Rossimo> but, it wouldn't hurt to add it to svn, would it?
[17:14:49] <Rossimo> i don't think that setting would throw anything off
[17:14:53] <bryank> hopefully not, but i'm seeing if i can find out for sure
[17:18:38] <Magon> Rossimo: try bitbake update and oe update
[17:18:55] <Rossimo> i tried both of those while attempting to fix it earlier
[17:21:21] <bryank> does o.o.d/conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc show ANGSTROM_PKG_FORMAT as ipk?
[17:21:31] <bryank> and/or is that overridden in local.conf?
[17:22:00] <Rossimo> ANGSTROM_PKG_FORMAT ?= "ipk"
[17:22:12] <Rossimo> i don't know much about python, but is that some sort of conditional?
[17:22:17] <bryank> hmm... so as long as DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1", that should be fine
[17:22:27] <bryank> it's not quite python, but from the comments it looks like that's an "assign ipk if it's not assigned something else with ="
[17:22:34] <Rossimo> that's what i was thinking
[17:22:44] <Rossimo> well, i need to get to testing this image
[17:24:26] <bryank> might be worth double-checking that the .tar file (in tmp*/deploy/glibc/images/zipit2/) has Angstrom in the name
[17:24:28] <Magon> ?= is bitbakes own syntax and means week assignment(if empty assing else nothing)
[17:24:31] <bryank> but good luck testing
[17:24:39] <bryank> Magon: thanks, that's what it looked like, but it's good to know for sure.
[17:24:44] <Magon> i have somewhere found definition
[17:29:09] <Rossimo> bryank: yeah, Angstrom is in the name
[17:29:14] <bryank> then i have no idea why it wasn't working. hmm...
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[17:59:06] <Rossimo> alright, it worked
[17:59:38] <Rossimo> the sd device naming convention in ubuntu is different, so i had to spend some time reworking the perl script
[18:08:49] <bryank> Rossimo: how is it different? /dev/disk/by-*, or something else?
[18:09:19] <Rossimo> /dev/mmcblk0 is the device
[18:09:23] <Rossimo> and all partitions are /dev/mmcblk0p1 and /dev/mmcblk0p2
[18:09:34] <bryank> on the zipit, yeah -- is ubuntu doing that too?
[18:09:39] <Rossimo> yep
[18:09:53] <bryank> weird; oh well
[18:13:32] <Magon> Rossimo: you have integrated SD card reader in laptop, am i right?
[18:13:50] <Rossimo> yes
[18:14:09] <Magon> Rossimo: it is because it is handled diretly by mmc driver instead of scsii emulation by external reader on USB
[18:14:14] <Magon> it is no distro-specific
[18:14:21] <Magon> it is driver specific(kernel)
[18:14:22] <Rossimo> ah, i have a usb card reader, i can use that from now on
[18:14:23] <Rossimo> cool
[18:14:37] <Magon> usb card reader should appear as sdX
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[19:02:38] <Rossimo> if i want to use the latest rev for kdrive, so i have to do anything special besides updating with the latest SVN?
[19:02:46] <Rossimo> do i have to apply patches, or just "bitbake xserver-kdrive"?
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[21:01:57] <Rossimo> does anyone else loose direction key functionality while running an X app?
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[21:03:06] <Rossimo> can't scroll through webpages in dillo
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[22:08:55] <bryank> Rossimo: "bitbake xserver-kdrive" builds v1.4; not sure about patches for svn
[22:09:14] <bryank> i lose direction keys too (but only on the recent builds of kdrive; it may be the enable-xkb stuff, i'm not sure)
[22:09:44] <bryank> ... and i haven't run dillo, but i've seen there are two versions (dillo/dillo2)
[22:11:01] <bryank> i *think* the only difference is that dillo2 is for gtk2, but there may be other differences too
[22:29:24] <bryank> ok, now i'm sure: when i re-add --disable-xkb to xserver-kdrive-common.inc and rebuild, arrow keys work in x
[22:31:35] <bryank> but trying to fix that is a project for tomorrow
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