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[00:49:38] <ttb> anyone alive?
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[08:03:58] <T0mW> Crofton: it looks like all the ipk files that were generated are oabi format, for example:wpa-supplicant_0.4.9-r0_arm-oabi.ipk
[08:04:08] <T0mW> and they got stored into: tmp-ZipitZ2/deploy/glibc/ipk/arm-oabi/
[08:04:11] <Crofton> ok
[08:04:13] <T0mW> So, it looks like that worked ok
[08:04:26] <T0mW> Now, I am thinking that the /sbin/init has failed and I cannot see the message it generated.
[08:04:56] <T0mW> it is prolly something stupid like fstab is borked, or dev is empty
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[08:12:31] <Crofton> hmm
[08:12:33] <Crofton> you badly need a console ...
[08:12:45] <T0mW> agreed, I think I need to flash a new kernel
[08:12:51] <Crofton> you can't get it to read a kernel from usd
[08:12:54] <T0mW> usd ?
[08:13:16] <T0mW> You know what I've been wondering, why I cannot build a kernel that can be loaded + executed as if it were an app?
[08:13:29] <T0mW> You would need some startup code to turn off the MMU, then setup the ATAG list, then jump to it?
[08:13:36] <T0mW> A user-space kernel boot
[08:13:46] <T0mW> probably turn off the mmu and find that the memory is non-contiguous
[08:14:37] <drmikecrowe> Would kexec support help?
[08:19:59] <T0mW> I dunno, I have built angstrom, but it won't start
[08:20:26] <T0mW> I can't even get an indication that the kernel is up and hasn't panic'ed
[08:20:34] <drmikecrowe> from talking to magon, if I could get a kernel supporting kexec, we can get a custom kernel on the sd and boot from it. However, I have never gone down this path
[08:20:37] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I think the problem with with 'console=/dev/ttyS0'
[08:20:38] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I think the problem with with 'console=/dev/ttyS2
[08:20:58] <drmikecrowe> could be. ethicalclone built the new fbcon drivers against the old kernel. I bet you will need to regenerate and load those modules, right?
[08:21:02] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I've tried to mess with the z2script.sh to get a console device that will printout the boot messages (e.g. echo)
[08:21:12] <T0mW> I'll try that
[08:21:18] <T0mW> just building angstrom has been "interesting"
[08:22:18] <T0mW> I'll build using console=tty0 and see what happens
[08:22:59] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I think that the issue revolves around the cmdline of the kernel. The kernel that is in the Zipit has a hardcoded console=/dev/ttyS2 and rebuilding the frame buffer isn't going to do anything.
[08:23:11] <T0mW> not sure
[08:23:15] <T0mW> AH!
[08:23:16] <drmikecrowe> ah, that I don't know. I'm still trying to get my arms around this (in my spare time)
[08:23:16] <T0mW> I wonder
[08:23:44] <T0mW> I may be able to change the ATAG list in the blob by reprogramming mtdblock0
[08:23:56] <T0mW> The ATAG list is where the default console can be overridden
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[09:14:02] <Magon> T0mW: hi may I ask a little favor?
[09:14:15] <Magon> T0mW: your OE configs builds kernel probably exactly like the one on board, am i right?
[09:14:42] <T0mW> yes, it should
[09:14:49] <Magon> ok..can you change it to include kexec support?
[09:14:52] <T0mW> Magon: you can build modules then plub them in
[09:14:56] <Magon> kexec is not possible as module
[09:19:29] <T0mW> Magon: does the kexec kernel have to be put into Flash?
[09:19:39] <Magon> T0mW: yes it does
[09:19:39] <T0mW> :(
[09:19:46] <Magon> i have spoken with mike
[09:19:56] <T0mW> Magon: we have been looking at the mtd stuff to reprogram the flash
[09:19:58] <T0mW> http://rafb.net/p/YGzQ1576.html
[09:20:37] <Magon> if we provide him kernel(binary) that have kexec i should work(so exactly their kernel with this option enabled) he will test it and probably try to provide an update
[09:20:50] <Magon> reprograming flash is probably easy..just a bit risky
[09:20:51] <T0mW> when I copied the mtd[0..2] images onto the SD card and looked at them later, they do look correct. mtd0 does have blob in it.
[09:20:57] <Magon> i have seen that earlier
[09:21:06] <T0mW> Magon: I can always use another BRICK, don't you?
[09:21:10] <Magon> i know..have seen that
[09:21:13] <T0mW> heh
[09:21:21] <Magon> T0mW: problem is i cannot get second Z2 easy way
[09:21:21] <T0mW> Magon: I've never done the mtd stuff before
[09:21:24] <T0mW> Magon: I have three here
[09:21:25] <Magon> i have been playing with mtd on T3
[09:21:34] <Magon> T0mW: can you please compile the kernel with kexec and upload it somewhere so mike can test it and include that in update?
[09:21:59] <Magon> having kexec will be "good enough" for now
[09:22:09] <T0mW> ok
[09:22:10] <Magon> i will probably try to look at blob if it can be made slimmer..but that will take long time
[09:22:20] <Magon> i dont trust my OE so i cannot build it myself
[09:22:26] <Magon> and i got a spare card...just 1GB as that should have less problems
[09:22:33] <T0mW> Magon: my OE is busy now rebuilding the image that does work for us.
[09:22:42] <T0mW> Magon: once that is done, I will build the kexec kernel
[09:22:44] <Magon> T0mW: that is not a problem..just when you have time...i have to go
[09:22:48] <T0mW> Magon: to work?
[09:22:53] <Magon> and probably upload kexec to defconfig
[09:22:56] <Magon> T0mW: no..i just returned from work :-)
[09:22:57] <T0mW> ah
[09:22:59] <T0mW> Magon: cul
[09:23:01] <Magon> i am going to ride horses
[09:23:04] <T0mW> oooo!
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[09:23:52] <Magon> that is just simple hobby like the other...
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[09:51:25] <T0mW> GPSFan: morning ken
[09:52:06] <GPSFan> T0mW: howdy tom, how it goin?
[09:52:45] <T0mW> slowly right now. I've built against the angstrom-2008.1 distro but it won't boot
[10:02:41] <GPSFan> we just had a white out here, blizzard I can't see more than 100' away, 25+mph winds snow comming down sideways.
[10:02:51] <T0mW> oooo! I remember days like that, not in recent memory though
[10:03:16] <T0mW> three foot of snow on the ground and still snowing like mad. You know, we have had almost no snow this year? A lot of rain.
[10:03:19] <T0mW> if all that rain was snow...
[10:03:22] <GPSFan> got 1/2 inch of rain last night
[10:03:24] <T0mW> ouch
[10:03:25] <T0mW> ice
[10:03:33] <GPSFan> now it's just below freezing, gonna be a beaut of a storm.
[10:03:37] <T0mW> oh
[10:03:44] <T0mW> I saw that last night on the weather channel, didn't think that was you in the middle of that map
[10:03:48] <T0mW> heh
[10:04:02] <T0mW> how many head do you have to feed?
[10:04:04] <GPSFan> I didn't played much with OE yesterday, but I did get a buildroot rootfs working on the Z2, a few problems, but it builds.
[10:04:18] <GPSFan> we have about 150 sheep, 9 horses 4 dogs, 2 cats....... 14 chickens 3 geese.
[10:04:24] <T0mW> GPSFan: yeah, I'm working at getting Angstrom put together. It seems that OE people are focusing almost exclusively on that distro.
[10:04:28] <T0mW> GPSFan: only two cats?
[10:04:39] <T0mW> GPSFan: that sounds like they are both female
[10:04:47] <GPSFan> OE seems like it's aming more towards the desktop-like GUI orientated system than the small memory starved embedded system.
[10:05:03] <T0mW> yes, it does seem that way, not sure why they are re-inventing the desktop PC
[10:05:04] <GPSFan> one inside cat, one outside, one female one male, both neutered
[10:10:11] <T0mW> there is work on the xscale hh devices though
[10:10:43] <GPSFan> it seems like OE people tend to say "Oh and I can build perl and python for my zipit, lets put all those along with full X11 and a naitve toolchain on it.
[10:11:04] <GPSFan> my view of embedded is a small very power efficient (as in low too) system. by neccessity that meens "just enough resources"
[10:11:05] <Crofton> biuld the proper image
[10:11:13] <Crofton> bitbake minimal-image
[10:11:19] <GPSFan> Crofton: that's what I'd like to do, but am still way down the OE learning curve, hopefully it will come in time.
[10:11:21] <Crofton> embedded means different things to different people
[10:11:22] <GPSFan> indeed.
[10:11:25] <Crofton> bitbake minimal-image should build an image :)
[10:11:29] <Crofton> even the definition of minimal image is tricky
[10:11:31] <GPSFan> thanks to T0mW I had my first successful OE experience this weekend.
[10:11:59] <Crofton> great :)
[10:12:19] <GPSFan> I was happy that I was able to grab an copy of the IRC session for future reference.
[10:12:32] <GPSFan> lots of RTFMing todo
[10:14:12] <T0mW> either of you guys have experience with raid-5 arrays?
[10:14:53] <GPSFan> T0mW: no, but with my OE build taking up 6+Gbytes I need to look at a new hdd/nas/raid array. ;>)
[10:22:40] <T0mW> I've got that new AMD X2 6400+ board coming tomorrow to relace this 4800+ board.
[10:23:00] <GPSFan> ooooww
[10:23:05] <Crofton> big drives are cheap :)
[10:23:19] <T0mW> I have to figure out how to determine how to plug the SATA drives back into what socket
[10:23:40] <T0mW> yeah, I've 5 320G drives in that array (4+1 spare)
[10:24:03] <GPSFan> that's the problem, you get a big cheap drive, put lots of good/valuable stuff on it, then you need a bigger backup system... neverending spiral..
[10:24:44] <T0mW> I put one of these in an Antec P180 case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817332011
[10:25:47] <T0mW> Crofton: those 500G drive prices were sure tempting me to get a bunch of them.
[10:25:57] <T0mW> GPSFan: you do backups?
[10:26:00] <T0mW> !
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[10:28:01] <T0mW> hooboy
[10:28:11] <T0mW> Crofton: you listening to GNUtoo on #oe
[10:28:14] <T0mW> GNUtoo but qemu doesn't have a touchscreen and i'm stuck at "tap anywhere to on the screen to continue" in opie
[10:28:16] <T0mW> XorA just hit the screen harder
[10:28:17] <T0mW> lol
[10:28:19] <T0mW> hit the screen harder!
[10:29:37] <GPSFan> T0mW: backups?, backups? we dont need no stinking backups! ;>) That's the theory at least..
[10:29:55] <T0mW> ... we just mirror everything to the web
[10:37:54] <GPSFan> heh, now there is blue sky ans sunshine on the horizon... if you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes...
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[11:07:52] <SB-Zipit> New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: Doom edited by rossimo || zipit2-image-zipit2-20080121040155.rootfs.tar.gz attached to OpenEmbedded || fatroot.zip attached to OpenEmbedded || WikiStart edited by rossimo || Doom edited by rossimo || WikiStart edited by rossimo || MPlayer edited by rossimo || MPlayer edited by rossimo || MPlayer edited by rossimo || MPlayer edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || IMG_0943.JPG attached to SDL_Example || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || OpenEmbedded edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || OpenEmbedded edited by drmikecrowe || OpenEmbedded edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || Links edited by rossimo || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || OpenEmbedded edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by rossimo || WikiStart edited by rossimo || WikiStart edited by rossimo || z2_sdl_example.zip attached to SDL_Example || SDL_Example edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || z2_links_0.2.zip attached to Links || Links edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || Links edited by rossimo || z2_links_0.1.zip attached to Links || Links edited by rossimo || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by zipitcreator || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by magon
[11:08:09] <Rossimo> what's this?
[11:08:20] <Rossimo> just my edits?
[11:16:08] <Crofton> no, been afk
[11:16:42] <Crofton> what is the gist?
[11:17:33] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: who are you?
[11:17:33] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "who" is not a valid command.
[11:17:37] <T0mW> ~lart Crofton
[11:17:40] <T0mW> wow a dumb bot
[11:17:42] <T0mW> ~weather kabe
[11:17:46] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: weather kabe
[11:17:46] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "weather" is not a valid command.
[11:17:51] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: lart Crofton
[11:17:51] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "lart" is not a valid command.
[11:17:54] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: manual?
[11:17:54] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "manual?" is not a valid command.
[11:17:57] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: help
[11:17:57] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:18:00] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: help help
[11:18:00] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:18:02] <T0mW> bah
[11:18:05] <Crofton> ?
[11:18:07] <T0mW> gimme ibot
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[11:19:01] <GPSFan> T0mW: http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html
[11:19:05] <Rossimo> hey orionr
[11:19:21] <orionr> hey Rossimo.
[11:19:30] <orionr> Rossimo: the only browser that is currently working on zipit is just links. ?
[11:19:30] <Rossimo> SB-Zipit: while (1) { fork() }
[11:19:30] <SB-Zipit> Rossimo: Error: "while" is not a valid command.
[11:19:31] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: T0mW is not very smart
[11:19:31] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "T0mW" is not a valid command.
[11:19:34] <Rossimo> yeah
[11:19:36] <T0mW> ;)
[11:19:39] <orionr> Rossimo: you can use it to ssh to other computers though correct?
[11:19:48] * orionr after getting the different firmware
[11:19:52] <Rossimo> there isn't a new "firmware", yet...
[11:26:40] <SB-Zipit> New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/z1kernel/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || patch-2.4.21-rmk1-zipit.gz attached to WikiStart || patch-wl_lkm_abg_alfa2-zipit.gz attached to WikiStart || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || CamelCase edited by trac || InterMapTxt edited by trac || InterTrac edited by trac || InterWiki edited by trac || RecentChanges edited by trac || SandBox edited by trac || TitleIndex edited by trac || TracAccessibility edited by trac || TracAdmin edited by trac || TracBackup edited by trac || TracBrowser edited by trac || TracCgi edited by trac || TracChangeset edited by trac || TracEnvironment edited by trac || TracFastCgi edited by trac || TracGuide edited by trac || TracImport edited by trac || TracIni edited by trac || TracInstall edited by trac || TracInterfaceCustomization edited by trac || TracLinks edited by trac || TracLogging edited by trac || TracModPython edited by trac || TracNotification edited by trac || TracPermissions edited by trac || TracPlugins edited by trac || TracQuery edited by trac || TracReports edited by trac || TracRevisionLog edited by trac || TracRoadmap edited by trac || TracRss edited by trac || TracSearch edited by trac || TracStandalone edited by trac || TracSupport edited by trac || TracSyntaxColoring edited by trac || TracTickets edited by trac || TracTicketsCustomFields edited by trac || TracTimeline edited by trac || TracUnicode edited by trac || TracUpgrade edited by trac || TracWiki edited by trac || WikiDeletePage edited by trac || WikiFormatting edited by trac
[11:26:41] <SB-Zipit> New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/z2kernel/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: linux-2.6.21.1_to_zipit2-1.0-slim attached to WikiStart || WikiStart edited by magon || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || zipit2-kernel.patch attached to WikiStart || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || zipit2-keyboard.patch attached to Keyboard || Keyboard edited by ethicalclone || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by preview || WikiStart edited by preview || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || wpa_supplicant-0.5.8.tar.gz attached to WikiStart || linux-2.6.21.1.tar.bz2 attached to WikiStart || busybox-1.5.1.tar.gz attached to WikiStart || blob-2.0.5-pre2.tar.gz attached to WikiStart || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || WikiStart edited by drmikecrowe || CamelCase edited by trac || InterMapTxt edited by trac || InterTrac edited by trac || InterWiki edited by trac || RecentChanges edited by trac || SandBox edited by trac || TitleIndex edited by trac || TracAccessibility edited by trac || TracAdmin edited by trac || TracBackup edited by trac || TracBrowser edited by trac || TracCgi edited by trac || TracChangeset edited by trac || TracEnvironment edited by trac || TracFastCgi edited by trac || TracGuide edited by trac || TracImport edited by trac || TracIni edited by trac || TracInstall edited by trac || TracInterfaceCustomization edited by trac || TracLinks edited by trac || TracLogging edited by trac || TracModPython edited by trac || TracNotification edited by trac || TracPermissions edited by trac
[11:26:47] <Rossimo> right now everyone in here's working on getting OE ported to Z2, which will open up a ton of software
[11:26:49] <T0mW> SB-Zipit: stockquote goog
[11:26:49] <SB-Zipit> T0mW: Error: "stockquote" is not a valid command.
[11:26:51] <drmikecrowe> hmmm, I was wondering if this was working...
[11:26:54] <orionr> Rossimo: sorry i miss read, i am shell environment.
[11:27:06] * orionr meant
[11:27:16] <Rossimo> basically, if you want to get things working right now, you'll have to add a couple apps to get a shell running to your SD card, and then run any of the apps on the frontpage
[11:27:52] <orionr> Rossimo: OE = openembedded ?
[11:27:52] <T0mW> orionr: yes
[11:27:56] <Rossimo> yeah
[11:27:58] <T0mW> orionr: we are just working at getting a filesystem built up
[11:28:04] <orionr> interesting
[11:28:11] <Rossimo> personally, i've just been coding with scratchbox, getting a couple quick ports running.
[11:28:16] <Rossimo> hopefully by the next CLUG meeting, we'll have some OE stuff to show off
[11:28:20] <T0mW> Rossimo: when is that meeting?
[11:28:21] <Rossimo> one sec...
[11:28:28] <Rossimo> Feb 12th
[11:28:30] <T0mW> ah
[11:28:35] <Rossimo> we've got one tommorrow night, Zipit's visiting to talk about the Z2
[11:28:39] <T0mW> I leave for a week vacation Feb 27, I plan to be in Leesburg, FL on March 1st.
[11:28:44] <orionr> Rossimo: are you written C code in Scratchbox?
[11:28:55] <Rossimo> i'll be giving a presentation at the meeting after the Zipit on more portable linux devices, and my experience with coding for them
[11:28:58] <Rossimo> orionr: yeah
[11:29:42] <orionr> Rossimo: is there a way to run a virtual machine of the Z2 so you dont have to transfer the code back and forth to the zipit to test it?
[11:29:47] <Rossimo> if you could, it would probably be really slow
[11:29:48] <Rossimo> but that's not the idea
[11:37:07] <T0mW> ah! oe finally finished
[11:37:11] <Rossimo> wewt
[11:37:53] <T0mW> orionr: virtual machines are good for classroom work but are not much good in the real world.
[11:38:02] <Rossimo> orionr: if you'd like, i'll help you get scratchbox set up for now at the meeting. the installation isn't difficult. there's even an Ubuntu repo for it
[11:38:06] <orionr> T0mW: i was just figuring that would be more convenient
[11:38:17] <T0mW> sadly, no
[11:38:27] <orionr> Rossimo: yea i really want to start programming something for real. Ive been playing around with writing programs on my wrt with OpenWRT.
[11:38:30] <Rossimo> awesome
[11:39:53] <Rossimo> hmm, what would be nice is sftp for the Z2
[11:39:57] <Rossimo> i tried getting it to work with dropbear earlier, but it wasn't working for me
[11:44:55] <Rossimo> i've got lots of indents around the SD card slot from pulling that card in and out
[11:44:56] <orionr> Rossimo: what commands does the terminal package somewith?
[11:45:27] <Rossimo> well, i think it's a normal SH shell (lot like bash)
[11:45:34] <Rossimo> let me check and see what else comes with it
[11:45:43] <orionr> I know that openwrt have a dropbear package.
[11:45:54] <Rossimo> ethicaclone
[11:46:00] <Rossimo> ethicaclone's packaged in SCP and netcat with it
[11:46:04] <Rossimo> getting vi or nano running with it is probably just a quick recompile
[11:46:55] <orionr> Rossimo: can i see some code that you are working on to see how advance it is?
[11:47:05] <T0mW> GPSFan,nhoman I am about to royally break things in svn
[11:47:05] <Rossimo> um, i haven't done much coding, but really just ports. i'll get you links for the more interesting stuff
[11:47:10] <Rossimo> T0mW: sounds productive
[11:47:12] <T0mW> yeah :(
[11:47:18] <nhoman> cool... i'll be checking it out (although i am in work - but will build it at home)
[11:47:20] <T0mW> I need to re-organize the build dir so it works for me, and some other dir naming
[11:47:23] <T0mW> nhoman: just wanted to warn you
[11:47:37] <Rossimo> orionr: if your into device driver writing, the z2 keyboard driver is at http://linux.zipitwireless.com/browser/openembedded/zipitZ2BBfiles/linux/linux-zipit2/zipit2-keyboard.patch
[11:47:48] <Rossimo> there's a quick SDL example at http://linux.zipitwireless.com/wiki/SDL_Example
[11:48:48] <Rossimo> orionr; you can browse through all the real work at http://linux.zipitwireless.com/browser/openembedded/zipitZ2BBfiles
[11:49:08] <orionr> thanks, cool
[11:49:48] <orionr> what is the file extension .bb ?
[11:49:53] <nhoman> T0mW: did you try the legacy angstrom?
[11:49:59] <Rossimo> orionr: bitbake, i think it's like a Makefile for OE. not too sure. i have yet to start any work with OE
[11:59:13] <nhoman> T0mW: I know it's for 2.4 kernels but wondering if you had success with it?
[11:59:24] <T0mW> nhoman: that is why I was going to break things, I have two distros of Zipit OE that I'm trying to juggle between.
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[15:39:40] <Magon> i have putted on my new miniSD fatroot and my OE build...i hope the card will survive that
[15:44:23] <Magon> ok..this time it booted properly...seems like the old card was really bad
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[19:24:48] <SB-Zipit> New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: OpenEmbedded edited by rossimo
[19:43:03] <Rossimo> i've got some ideas for organizing the frontpage, if anyone would like to see them
[19:43:04] <Rossimo> http://linux.zipitwireless.com/wiki/FPRevison
[19:54:46] <Rossimo> also, would anyone have problems with me adding documentation for using scratchbox? my local LUG will be giving a presentation with Zipit tomorrow, and i'd like to give everyone a jump start
[19:59:03] <SB-Zipit> New news from http://linux.zipitwireless.com/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss: FPRevison edited by rossimo
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