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good choice, but there are problems with that in doing dev that you have to find a way around things. Yes, I currently use both, primarily OE and sometimes buildroot.

[09:57:34]

<Magon>

T0mW: i want to ask you to guide me throuth setting OE up

[09:57:37]

<T0mW>

ok

[09:57:51]

<Magon>

i thing build root have more issuses than OE

[09:58:04]

<Magon>

some packages wont build <- that is not a problem

[09:58:11]

<Magon>

but some wont start to build <- that is problem

[09:58:31]

<Magon>

btw: do you have jabber or so?

[09:58:42]

<T0mW>

Magon: well, the first hurdle with OE is make sure that you have all the supporting apps loaded so that the bitbake system can do its work.

[09:59:20]

<T0mW>

have you pulled from the zipit OpenEmbedded svn ?

[09:59:21]

<Magon>

i had OE once up and going..but that was for openmoko and i havent it anymore

[09:59:22]

<Magon>

no..i have completly empty folder waiting for OE :-)

[09:59:22]

<T0mW>

ok, let's see...

[09:59:39]

<Magon>

i know that i need some mtn magic

[10:03:42]

<T0mW>

I have a Makefile that I'd put together to get people started with OE, it will pull in the necessary bitbake, mtn, etc.

[10:04:02]

<Magon>

great

[10:04:51]

<T0mW>

http://rafb.net/p/ZrGPNv85.html

[10:07:09]

<T0mW>

make a directory, as a user, under your HOME, maybe call it "OE-projects"

[10:07:14]

<T0mW>

put that Makefile in there and type 'make'

[10:07:17]

<Magon>

i have it in /opt/openembeded

[10:07:28]

<T0mW>

When it finishes running, you should have the basic OE framework in OE-projects

[10:07:30]

<Magon>

i have some structure from last time...i need to put it in 2 HDD in order to suit it

[10:07:54]

<T0mW>

Magon: I hope you have a FAT internet connection? OE sucks in huge amounts of files!

[10:07:58]

<Magon>

i know

[10:08:07]

<Magon>

i can download much but it will take a while since it it is not the fastest

[10:08:11]

<Magon>

but definetly not slow

[10:08:15]

<T0mW>

I've got opie up to the calibration screen on the Z2, was looking at how to get past that this morning when you "called"

[10:08:18]

<T0mW>

Magon: DSL ?

[10:08:19]

<Magon>

it installs own bitbake

[10:08:20]

<Magon>

?

[10:08:22]

<Magon>

wifi by local provider

[10:08:26]

<T0mW>

not bad

[10:08:34]

<Magon>

you have kdrive working/

[10:08:35]

<Magon>

?

[10:08:41]

<Magon>

we probably need to skip calibration...quick way is to log by ssh and kill the app

[10:09:04]

<T0mW>

Magon: yeah, well, I don't see the app in the process stack. Of course, right now I am using the busybox load and those apps are, shall we say, 'reduced capability' to do things.

[10:09:15]

<T0mW>

what is 'kdrive' ?

[10:09:24]

<Magon>

tiny X..or how it is called..small X server

[10:09:25]

<T0mW>

This is my first, successful, foray into using OE to build a gui.

[10:09:29]

<Magon>

or the opie uses framebuffer?

[10:09:30]

<T0mW>

Yeah, I forgot about tinyx

[10:09:41]

<T0mW>

opie appears to use the framebuffer

[10:09:43]

<Magon>

the app is in there..it is called calc something i suppose

[10:09:58]

<Magon>

why do you use monotone 0.32 over newest?

[10:15:40]

<T0mW>

Magon: because I haven't been paying attention, again, to the mailing list?

[10:15:41]

<T0mW>

heh

[10:15:59]

<T0mW>

I am using 0.38 myself, that makefile prolly needs to be updated

[10:16:13]

<Magon>

ok

[10:16:20]

<Magon>

i will probably skip most of that makefile since most i have

[10:17:26]

<Magon>

ok..i am downloading OE.mtn

[10:17:32]

<Magon>

how to apply SVN from zipit?

[10:17:36]

Has anybody played with the audio stuff I posted yet?

[10:17:50]

<T0mW>

no, been wrestling with getting other stuff working on the o/s level at getting OE setup.

[10:17:55]

I know Ross was asking for it. I haven't been able to give it a shot yet

[10:18:02]

<T0mW>

Magon: what is the name of the new dir for the OE Z2 stuff that you want it in?

[10:18:15]

<T0mW>

${HOME}/<what?>

[10:18:24]

<Magon>

i have all in /opt/openembedded/

[10:18:27]

<T0mW>

:/

[10:18:27]

<T0mW>

ok

[10:18:28]

<Magon>

and have /opt/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/

[10:18:38]

<Magon>

but is it a bit binded to other filesystem :-)

[10:18:41]

<T0mW>

svn co http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded /opt/openembedded

[10:18:51]

<Magon>

ok just check out svn to that dir..that is easy

[10:19:35]

<T0mW>

After checkout, my new OE dir looks like:

[10:19:36]

<T0mW>

bitbake/ Makefile OE.mtn.bz2 README-zipit

[10:19:45]

<T0mW>

you should have the zipitZ2BBfiles/ ?

[10:19:55]

<T0mW>

build should look like this:

[10:19:57]

<T0mW>

build/

[10:19:57]

<T0mW>

|-- README

[10:19:57]

<T0mW>

|-- distro

[10:19:58]

<T0mW>

| `-- zipit2-1.x.conf

[10:19:58]

<T0mW>

`-- machine

[10:19:58]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: the gspi patch is audio?

[10:27:47]

<Magon>

ok that is nice..i have it nearly like that...just not complete mtn checkout

[10:27:48]

Is it? I thought it was wifi related. I have just been using the kernel modules

[10:27:54]

<Magon>

ok..i was just asking i dont know

[10:27:59]

<Magon>

16:21 < drmikecrowe> Has anybody played with the audio stuff I posted yet? posted where?

[10:28:05]

btw, I cannot get the bootloader fixed to boot a kernel off the sd. We have 4K free space in the partition. The SD boot stuff takes 11K

[10:28:21]

<Magon>

the gspi is wirelessdriver patch

[10:28:27]

http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/z2kernel/wiki/WikiStart#AudioRegisterSetup

[10:28:32]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: thx

[10:29:06]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: that is just telling us how is the audio wired(so we dont have to try/mistake it)

[10:29:30]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: you have a bit fat bootloader...probably need to thin it a bit..is the bootloader code GPL ? it suppose it is blob

[10:29:31]

After you execute that code, you can open the audio output like a file and write audio data to it

[10:29:33]

It is a modified blob

[10:29:43]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: are the modifications available? maybe i can make it a bit thiner :-)

[10:29:54]

Magon: the updated blob patch is on that same page/svn

[10:29:56]

<Magon>

ok

[10:29:57]

drmikecrowe: Any word on kexec support enabled in the next release?

[10:34:15]

ethicalclone: I have it logged as an enhancement, but it will not happen until we have a kernel update (which isn't anticipated).

[10:34:21]

The bootloader has to be changed for another reason, so I have some more liberty with that.

[10:34:48]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: the patch you added have SD load support?

[10:34:55]

I got it from GPSFan. 1s, let me find

[10:38:01]

Magon: just emailed to you

[10:38:24]

<Magon>

drmikecrowe: thx

[10:38:34]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: can you run blob via a serial connection?

[10:38:46]

<Magon>

T0mW: serial line is not out..that is a problem

[10:38:48]

T0mW: Unfortunately, no. Serial wasn't brought out the rear connector (just I2C)

[10:38:52]

<T0mW>

I can see that I would want to replace the kernel that resides in Flash, no 'tun' modules

[10:39:08]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: if I crack the unit open, which I know how to do, would the serial lines be accessible?

[10:39:09]

<Magon>

T0mW: i would likely boot off SD card and keep Flash intact

[10:39:09]

Can't you compile those and load them as it boots off the SD?

[10:39:14]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: well, you need the kernel to have the module hooks

[10:39:20]

Right -- I thought we had the full kernel posted for that reason.

[10:39:23]

<T0mW>

?

[10:39:41]

<T0mW>

I'll try that, I've never given it thought but assumed that the kernel itself needed a specific hook to hang a specific module onto?

[10:39:44]

<Magon>

not

[10:39:46]

<T0mW>

AH

[10:39:48]

<Magon>

it needs general module interface

[10:39:48]

<T0mW>

cool

[10:39:50]

<T0mW>

good

[10:39:55]

<Magon>

the z2 filesystem used for first attemts addes few modules

[10:39:57]

<T0mW>

my goal is the openVPN back into my systems.

[10:44:28]

If you look at ethicalclone's work, he loads a new framebuffer and keyboard driver

[10:44:42]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: heh

[10:44:46]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: I've moved a bit beyond that

[10:44:57]

<T0mW>

drmikecrowe: trying to get opie figured out, I've got it up to the calibration screen

[10:45:01]

Understood. I'm saying they did not make serial or jtag available anywhere on the board

[10:46:11]

<T0mW>

silly that they would do that, the MTD stuff allows you access to the flash

[10:46:13]

Really? Fanstastic. I was trying to build it, but got consumed on another project and haven't been back to try that

[10:46:22]

<Magon>

T0mW: it is not because of MTD

[10:46:25]

<Magon>

grr Flash

[10:46:26]

<T0mW>

I was going to push the opie stuff this morning

[10:46:35]

I know. We're making progress. Before, they didn't want us (people building linux for themselves). We've made good progress, and I will be able to plan new designs better

[10:46:36]

<Magon>

and i stopped him...sorry

[10:58:14]

<T0mW>

Magon: what did you mean about MTD / Flash?

[10:58:29]

<T0mW>

I pushed that opie stuff into svn

[10:58:59]

<Magon>

that JTAG is not hidden in order not to touch Flash but in order not to spy Zipit app

[10:59:07]

<Magon>

you have added Makefile?

[10:59:23]

<T0mW>

Magon: yes, I corrected it to mtn 0.38

[10:59:31]

<T0mW>

Magon: and, some new dirs in zipitBBfiles

[10:59:36]

<Magon>

ok..i still have 0.36 and i have it system wise..cannot use that makefile

[10:59:58]

<T0mW>

Well, I don't like putting things into the /usr/local/XXX dirs, becuase I tend to forget what I installed. For me, I like to see them inside my $HOME

[11:05:08]

<Magon>

but i found out that gentoo have 0.36 as latest..dont see why it is not 0.38

[11:05:18]

<Magon>

i use portage...it handles that kind of things

[11:08:53]

<T0mW>

I do a lot of dev work on micros and such, in the early daze I had a lot of /usr/local/bin stuff

[11:08:57]

<Magon>

ok

[11:09:11]

<T0mW>

Magon: then, when I would re-do the system, I would end up losing things. Today I try to restrict all software that doesn't come in via URPMI to my home dir.

[11:09:28]

<Magon>

URPMI?

[11:22:53]

<T0mW>

Magon: I use the Mandriva distros and urpmi is similar to apt-get

[11:23:06]

<Magon>

oh ok

[11:24:48]

<T0mW>

I'm beginning to wonder if opie is the right choice now.

[11:30:49]

<T0mW>

well, I would still have issues to resolve about moving the "mouse" around any GUI, so...

[11:30:55]

<Magon>

T0mW: can you try GPE?

[11:31:01]

<Magon>

T0mW: i know GPE more and like more

[11:31:05]

<Magon>

but that means need to get tinyX working

[11:31:07]

<T0mW>

I think that may be better to spend my time on as it does use an x-server, right?

[11:31:15]

<Magon>

exactly..we can load simple app changing arrows to mouse moves

[11:31:24]

<Magon>

that apps are for X but i am not shure about opie

[11:31:40]

<T0mW>

that is what I was thinking. trap the arrows in the keyboard driver and translate them to positional moves which are accessible via /dev/ts0

[11:31:52]

<Magon>

well..we probably will not want that...we can probably live without mouse at all

[11:31:52]

<T0mW>

keep an X/Y counter inside the keyboard driver and inc/dec position elements according to arrow movement.

[11:32:01]

<T0mW>

hmmm

[11:32:05]

<Magon>

simpliest way is to launch user space app that simply moves the mouse :-)

[11:32:07]

<Magon>

i have seen that apps

[11:32:12]

<Magon>

matchbox can be controled by keyboard..so the GPE apps

[11:32:26]

<T0mW>

I had considered that as a posibility, but didn't follow the thought through.

[11:32:32]

<Magon>

ok

[11:32:36]

<Magon>

we can do both..but first we need X up and running

[11:32:38]

<T0mW>

how would you move the mouse, through /dev/input

[11:32:38]

<T0mW>

?

[11:32:46]

<Magon>

i dont know..there is a way how to tell X to move mouse

[11:32:58]

<Magon>

you dont touch the inputs..just tell Xs to do that

[11:33:01]

<Magon>

tinyX is a bit smaller

[11:33:05]

<Magon>

and there are apps for doing that already

[11:33:07]

<T0mW>

BTDT, but on a system that had a touchscreen

[11:33:40]

<T0mW>

well, I will give gpe a try then.

[11:34:17]

<Magon>

why cannot mtn checkout to existing dir?

[11:34:26]

<T0mW>

what was the command?

[11:34:32]

<Magon>

mtn --db=OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev

[11:34:36]

<Magon>

mtn: misuse: checkout directory '/opt/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev' already exists

[11:34:49]

<T0mW>

the makefile should have done all that for you, IIRC

[11:35:00]

<T0mW>

I have 10Gig of stuff in my OE-projects dir, there are three projects in there

[11:42:42]

<Magon>

that is command by your makefile

[11:42:51]

<Magon>

but i made the org.open... dir in advance

[11:42:52]

<Magon>

and that is a problem

[11:42:54]

<T0mW>

yes

[11:42:55]

<T0mW>

Makefile assumes an empty dir

[11:42:56]

<Magon>

also mtn

[11:43:02]

<Magon>

i worked around that i hope...it it suits the hdd

[11:43:45]

<T0mW>

I've stuck with Mandriva for the past 5..7 years, they have been pretty good so far. Never was interested in trying out Gentoo or ubunto

[11:43:55]

<Magon>

gentoo is nice

[11:43:59]

<Magon>

but that issue was all mine

[11:44:01]

<Magon>

not by gentoo

[11:44:05]

<T0mW>

I did try out suse for a proof-of-concept a few years ago because they had the SCO abi stuff in v9.0

[11:44:08]

<Magon>

i am playing with dirs a bit for having it my way

[11:44:10]

<T0mW>

heh

[11:44:14]

<T0mW>

ease of use is a good thing

[11:44:18]

<Magon>

yes

[11:44:19]

T0mW: morning...

[11:44:20]

<T0mW>

running bitbake gpe-image now

[11:44:21]

<T0mW>

we'll see what dies

[11:44:25]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: good morning old man

[11:44:28]

<Magon>

GPSFan: morning

[11:44:32]

;>)) you upload all that new OE stuff ?

[11:44:36]

Magon: howdy.

[11:44:36]

<T0mW>

yeah

[11:44:40]

<Magon>

T0mW: gentoo is not easy to use but flexible(if you have horsepower to compile it all)

[11:44:40]

your Makefile is missing. http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded/Makefile

[11:44:45]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: I'd got it up to the opie calibration screen, but now looking at gpe

[11:44:48]

<Magon>

that makefile is in SVN i suppose

[11:49:19]

<Magon>

and suse should be good choice for easy to use

[11:49:24]

my experiences with opie & gpe are with old versions iPaq3765, so things may have changed for the better/worse..

[11:49:37]

<Magon>

GPE is nice..Opie also but i dont like it

[11:50:59]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: hmm, it is empty on the brower but Makefile comes in ok via the svn pull

[11:51:21]

T0mW: hmmm

[11:52:10]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: I didn't put my name inside any of the stuff so they won't know who to tar-n-feather if things break. They'll have to research the logfiles. :)

[11:52:22]

T0mW: so all I should have to do is an svn pull to /home/someone/somewhere/ and run that Makefile and it should install all neccessary to run OE?

[11:52:28]

<T0mW>

Magon: diet-x11-1.1.1

[11:52:35]

<Magon>

i have problem with building anything..it still complies that i have no sanity :-)

[11:52:40]

<Magon>

GPSFan: that it will do

[11:52:40]

<Magon>

and have it in empty dir

[11:52:40]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded/README-zipit

[11:52:41]

<T0mW>

heh

[11:52:43]

<Magon>

T0mW: that is exactly the same tinyX diet-x11 and kdrive

[11:52:44]

<T0mW>

good

[11:52:47]

I'll give OE another try then, the last time it got many MB into several downloads & builds and then died for some obscure reason.... here goes nothing...

[11:52:55]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: the base-image and opie-image should build clean. Having said that, you always end up with some wanking problem with OE that you have to dope out.

[11:53:19]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: there is a perl script in zipitBBfiles/fatroot/ that will install the bootable system onto an SD card for you. It is two partitions: FAT16 + Linux(83)

[11:53:21]

<Magon>

GPSFan: before you start compiling(after all mtn installed) you need to read README in build/

[11:54:21]

<T0mW>

I did have the Makefile do the symlinks at one time, but it is meant for a general install of OE now.

[11:54:44]

<Magon>

that is just fine

[11:54:49]

<T0mW>

Magon: the problem with OE is when you are developing your own custom app.

[12:02:31]

<T0mW>

Magon: buildroot works better for that type of thing. the problem is that buildroot uses uClibc as the general library, while OE uses glibc

[12:02:46]

<T0mW>

I haven't tried to cross pollinate apps between buildroot and OE

[12:02:46]

<Magon>

T0mW: do you have a way how to develope own apps in OE..that is what was my bigest problem with OE last time

[12:03:16]

<T0mW>

Magon: well, what I have been thinking to do is make a basic BB file so that it will create the temp/run.do_compile script, then work in the tmp/work/arm-linux/dir by editing code in my appspace and running ./temp/run.do_compile (etc)

[12:03:22]

<T0mW>

then, nfs share the binary back to the target system.

[12:03:42]

<T0mW>

or, take a run.do_compile, which sets all the linker / gcc / binutils paths and take that into a separate workspace to do dev there.

[12:03:51]

<Magon>

ok..that is exactly what i need

[12:03:52]

<T0mW>

I thinki that it is do-able, but would be something of a PITA to setup at first

[12:03:58]

<Magon>

i just need a script i shall launch insted of make to compile porject

[12:04:00]

<Magon>

moving it out is not a problem

[12:04:07]

<T0mW>

yes, run.do_compile would call the Makefile

[12:04:09]

T0mW: Built your changes with fatroot this morning - worked a treat. Only thing is i could not find base-image.bb and bitbaked bootstrap-image instead... worked just as well but is there something i am missing?

[12:04:10]

<T0mW>

s/call/invoke/

[12:04:10]

<Magon>

with apropried params

[12:04:22]

<T0mW>

nhoman: you used the prepSDcard.pl ?

[12:04:23]

yes

[12:04:30]

didnt work first time bu worked after a few tries - i have booted to OE - z2 distro

[12:04:36]

<Magon>

ERROR: No buildable providers available for required build target base-image ('['${ANGSTROM_FEED_CONFIGS}']')

[12:04:38]

Magon:

[12:04:41]

<T0mW>

ok, point --tarball=<xx> to the tmp/deploy/images/<image.rootfs.tar> that you want to install onto the card.

[12:04:43]

yes i bitbaked bootstrap-image

[12:04:47]

<Magon>

TARGET_FPU = "soft" <-- we should have hardware FPU unit on board

[12:04:50]

<T0mW>

Magon: I haven't played with angstrom

[12:04:54]

<Magon>

T0mW: just problem is that base-image is missing :-)

[12:04:57]

<Magon>

the error nhoman was talking about

[12:04:58]

T0mW: yes i made the necessary changesd to tranfer and it worked ok

[12:05:02]

<T0mW>

nhoman: heh, I've been posting into svn almost hourly, try an svn update to sync again

[12:09:51]

(the perl script worked with bootstrap-image) to be clear

[12:09:53]

<T0mW>

ok

[12:10:02]

<Magon>

i will update the README files in order not to mislead

[12:10:34]

<T0mW>

nhoman: good, I tried to make that thing bullet-proof as it runs a root and does some potentially dangerous things.

[12:10:46]

T0mW: worked a treat ! didnt format sdC2 initially but did the next time i ran it...

[12:10:52]

<Magon>

will i ever need OE.mtn again?

[12:10:54]

(as in ext3 partition)

[12:10:58]

yes updates frequently

[12:10:58]

<T0mW>

my goal is to get people past all the confusion of OE and partitioning the SD card + image dumps so that we can start working with the details of the software system itself.

[12:11:04]

i had to mtn -update last night

[12:11:06]

<Magon>

T0mW: you have done awsome job so far

[12:11:10]

<T0mW>

Magon: thanks

[12:11:17]

T0mW: I am going to second that - much appreciated!

[12:11:32]

<Magon>

T0mW: is OE.mtn needed after i unpacked that in org.open... ?

[12:11:39]

<T0mW>

don't leave ethicalclone out of this, he figured out the fatroot stuff! That was an awesome "backflip" that he does to boot the SD card!

[12:11:50]

<T0mW>

Magon: I'm not sure if it is or not, I leave it there. I have 1.2 terrabytes of storage on this box.

[12:11:56]

<Magon>

i have laptop :-)

[12:12:12]

<T0mW>

Magon: ROTFL

[12:12:14]

<Magon>

ROTFL?

[12:12:20]

<T0mW>

Magon: I feel your pain.

[12:12:22]

<Magon>

ok

[12:12:28]

<Magon>

i have 300GB external disk but i is nice to develop on the go

[12:12:33]

<T0mW>

Magon: I spent a lot(!) at putting this system together. I got tired of waiting for stuff to get done. No offense intended with my laughter.

[12:12:40]

<T0mW>

Magon: it just took me back a few years

[12:12:50]

<T0mW>

Magon: I do software / hardware development as a living. I'm a consultant now.

[12:13:03]

<Magon>

T0mW: i probably dont understand your point at all...

[12:13:14]

<T0mW>

Magon: oh, just that OE takes so long to build stuff that it will take a while on a notebook

[12:13:20]

<Magon>

ok...understand now

[12:13:31]

<Magon>

i know..but notebook is more comfortable for me..i am traveling a bit

[12:13:51]

<T0mW>

I have an IBM T40 that I mess around with when I go places. Nothing fancy, just something to use to take Linux along

[12:13:58]

<Magon>

i have R52..but T40 is nice

[12:13:58]

<T0mW>

gpe-image sure pulls in a lot of new stuff

[12:14:51]

<T0mW>

Magon: you are in Czech Republic? Do they sell the Zipit there?

[12:14:57]

<Magon>

nop

[12:15:00]

<T0mW>

ah

[12:22:46]

<Magon>

i am from Czech but there is no plan to sell it here

[12:22:52]

<Magon>

i was just offered one :-)

[12:22:57]

<T0mW>

I wonder why, is it the 802.11 frequencies in the EU?

[12:23:12]

<T0mW>

or maybe it is zipitwireless marketing is to North America

[12:23:12]

<Magon>

not..they just simply havent tried the market here..and wifi hotspots are not that much used here like in US

[12:23:28]

<Magon>

i think they have plan to expand to EU if they have the resources to do that and if there will be a market

[12:23:33]

<T0mW>

really? I would have thought that it would be used a lot there. With Germany + Estonia being well covered with access points.

[12:23:45]

<Magon>

france is also covered well

[12:23:49]

<Magon>

maybe there is a market..i haven been investigating that

[12:23:55]

<Magon>

for now zipitwireless is pure US company

[12:24:06]

<T0mW>

Magon: heh, maybe you should start talking with ZipitWireless to become their European distributor?

[12:24:13]

<Magon>

not a change...i dont like marketing

[12:24:15]

<Magon>

i am pure developer :-)

[12:24:23]

<T0mW>

nor do I, I had some company in China ask if I was interested in doing that for them.

[12:24:41]

<Magon>

i found a problem in your local-zipi2.conf

[12:24:44]

<T0mW>

ok

[12:24:46]

<Magon>

you use UserBuildRootDir but that is preset for $HOME/...

[12:24:50]

<Magon>

is it ok to use $TOP_DIR instead?

[12:24:58]

<T0mW>

does that work as well?

[12:28:58]

<Magon>

i am trying to fix some minor issues in your scriptes

[12:28:58]

<Magon>

scripts

[12:29:05]

<T0mW>

Magon: you have svn write permission, if so, just push that up into svn

[12:29:10]

Magon: there is a double slash problem maybe its just the way i am using it

[12:29:18]

<Magon>

nhoman: no there is the problem..i have solved that already

[12:29:20]

for (UserBuildRootDir)

[12:29:20]

ok

[12:29:35]

also i have just done a pull 5 mins ago and base-image is not a build target (I'm sure this is somthing i am doing wrong)

[12:29:44]

<T0mW>

UserBuildRootDir forces OE to ignore any of the packages bb files in preference to those in the UserBuildRootDir

[12:29:58]

Yeah thats handy i learnt more in 10 mins reading an irc log than i did all last week

[12:29:59]

<T0mW>

I don't like to edit the packages files as I like to keep my changes where I can see them

[12:30:01]

<Magon>

i know..i just need to set UserBuildRootDir by better way..you fixed that to directory i dont have

[12:32:09]

<T0mW>

np

[12:32:13]

<Magon>

T0mW: that is exactly file and what i like too

[12:32:21]

<Magon>

got a dinner..will fix that in half an hour

[12:32:32]

<T0mW>

lunch soon here, I am in Pennsylvania (east coast)

[12:35:03]

<Magon>

yes..and nhoman is in Irish am i rigth?

[12:40:58]

yep!

[12:41:03]

<Magon>

s/rigth/right

[12:41:09]

2 nd in europe to get one :-) thank god for EBAY

[12:41:15]

<Magon>

:-)

[12:41:24]

<Magon>

it is in ebay already?

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yeah there were a few around the time that they were released - haven't checked in a while

[12:41:56]

<T0mW>

hit my first errors in build gpe-image, this looks like it may take some time to figure out

[12:42:16]

<Magon>

why is in IMAGE_TYPES jffs?

[12:42:32]

<T0mW>

change that, I saw it and meant to do so, but got working on other stuff.

[12:42:41]

<T0mW>

nhoman: there are three Z2s on ebay right now.

[12:42:54]

<Magon>

T0mW: just tar fs would be sufficent now not?

[12:42:55]

<Magon>

grr ok?

[12:42:58]

<T0mW>

tar is all we need

[12:43:14]

<Magon>

ok

[12:43:27]

<Magon>

is there any way how to launch sh script from local.conf while bitbake parses that?

[12:43:29]

T0mW: can't see why people would want to sell 'em TBH. When we get a graphical web browser i can see people stickin' with 'em. Kids do bebo and myspace that sort of thing as well as IM'ing

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think a browser could be what it is missing

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(graphical : props to Rossimos text based)

[12:44:53]

<T0mW>

nhoman: I suspect some company seeding is going on. I say that as I got both of the ebay units in sealed boxes

[12:53:04]

T0mW: yeah that's likely - mine was sealed too - you got two??

one for serial stuff

?

as in one to open?

<T0mW>

nhoman: I have three, I'm sending two of them out to someone else

[12:59:44]

T0mW: well I got oe installed, and created the symlinks, when I run bitbake base-image it spits out some messages then says ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'base-image' .....

[12:59:48]

<Magon>

T0mW: is SVN access the same as for web or i need separate account?

[12:59:51]

<Magon>

GPSFan: run bootstrap.image

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<Magon>

bootstrap-image instead

[12:59:56]

<Magon>

i have fixed that..just figuring out how to push it to SVN

[13:01:51]

Magon: from where?

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<T0mW>

GPSFan: you set your BBFILES in your environment?

[13:02:11]

I set BBFiles AND have same problem

[13:02:12]

<T0mW>

GPS, the makefile script should have printed out a message telling you to set BBFILES

[13:02:39]

<T0mW>

base-image should be org.openembeded.dev/packages/images/base-image.bb

[13:02:51]

<T0mW>

I'm trying it now in a new dir and a download from svn to see what prob could be

[13:03:09]

T0mW: I set the bbpath= in .profile as it said to do it didn't say anything about bbfiles

[13:03:27]

T0mW: wait there was an error opening *.bb

[13:04:12]

<T0mW>

something like this:

[13:04:13]

<T0mW>

export PATH=$PATH:/home/tom/tryOE/bitbake/bin/

[13:04:26]

<T0mW>

should go into your .bashrc / .bashprofile, then run the profile: . ./.bashrc

[13:04:27]

that's what I put in .profile.

[13:04:32]

<T0mW>

echo $BBPATH

[13:04:42]

empty... must have screwed up somehow.

[13:04:53]

<T0mW>

naw, just do: ". ./.profile" to load what you put into the .profile

[13:05:02]

<T0mW>

that will load the new environ vars into current shell that you have open.

[13:10:26]

<T0mW>

Or, logout of X, login again and it should be set

[13:10:29]

ah, when I copied and pasted into .profile what's there is hosed.. wait while I fix it.

[13:10:33]

<T0mW>

LOL

[13:10:36]

<T0mW>

"Always Something Stupid"

[13:11:24]

<GPSFan_>

T0mW: this is what I see when I do env BBPATH=/usr2/Z2/openembedded/build/:/usr2/Z2/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev

[13:11:32]

<GPSFan_>

but when I do echo BBPATH I get nothing.

[13:11:39]

<T0mW>

echo $BBPATH

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<T0mW>

dollar sign

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<GPSFan_>

kenm@kenm-desktop:~$ echo $BBPATH

[13:11:49]

<GPSFan_>

kenm@kenm-desktop:~$ echo $BBPATH

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<T0mW>

hehhee

[13:11:52]

<GPSFan_>

usr2/Z2/openembedded/build/:/usr2/Z2/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev

[13:11:54]

<T0mW>

now you got it

[13:11:56]

<GPSFan_>

k

[13:11:56]

<Magon>

T0mW: have you special account for SVN or it is just simple the web access?

[13:12:12]

<T0mW>

Magon: to write into svn you need a passwd + username setup in advance, see drmikecrowe for those

[13:12:16]

<Magon>

i just need to find where is the file :-)

[13:12:16]

<T0mW>

Magon: it will be the same URL as the read

[13:12:22]

<Magon>

yes..i just need to find the file with passwords :-)

[13:12:41]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: that info is in build/conf/local-zipit2.conf

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<T0mW>

GPSFan: you need to change:

[13:13:30]

GPSFan: it's the double slash you need to change the USERBUILDROOTDIR

[13:13:30]

<T0mW>

UserBuildRootDir = "${TOPDIR}"

[13:13:38]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: Magon was just mentioning that he fixed that

[13:13:52]

<Magon>

but have problem to upload it

[13:14:06]

<Magon>

i have ssh access to linux.zipitwireless.com but even with that i am unable to upload it :-)

[13:14:08]

<GPSFan_>

T0mW: ah that's what I was just seeing, it was looking somewhere where the cosd wasn't.

[13:14:42]

<GPSFan_>

T0mW: that made things start to bake..

[13:14:42]

<T0mW>

Magon: that TOPDIR seems to work

[13:14:45]

<Magon>

T0mW: not exactly

[13:14:47]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: use the base-image

[13:22:49]

<T0mW>

GPSFan: bootstrap-image may not load ipkg so the first boot setups may not get done. I don't recall, base-image is what I focused on and should discard mention of bootstrap-image in README

[13:23:05]

<GPSFan_>

T0mW: I did bitbake base-image

[13:23:24]

<T0mW>

Magon: svn commit --username=XXXX --password=XXXX http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded

[13:23:31]

<T0mW>

Magon: or just:

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<T0mW>

svn commit --username=XXXX --password=XXXX