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[07:33:29] <drmikecrowe> nhoman: my apologies -- I must have been shutting down as your msg came in
[07:34:06] <drmikecrowe> I haven't, yet. I'm trying to multi-task this as a side project, and time has been fleeting lately.
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[09:18:35] <Rossimo> ethicalclone: would it be OK for the z2 startup environment archives you posted at Yahoo to be mirrored at the Trac?
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[10:18:09] <nhoman> drmikecrowe: np... i'll keep an eye for any developments
[10:19:08] <drmikecrowe> Rossimo: Did you get the audio working?
[10:28:17] <drmikecrowe> Hey folks, please look at http://linux.zipitwireless.com/projects/z2kernel/wiki/WikiStart
[10:28:25] <drmikecrowe> Here is the register setup and I2C address for the audio codec. After configuring it, you should be able to open/write as a normal linux device.
[10:28:29] <drmikecrowe> Is this enough info for audio development? What else is needed?
[10:37:59] <drmikecrowe> Also just updated with example code. Please review and LMK
[11:07:18] <Rossimo> no, i haven't gotten audio working yet
[11:07:21] <Rossimo> i'll have to work on it when i get back home tonight
[11:07:41] <Rossimo> btw, i've been thinking about a couple things that may help out with the layout of the front page
[11:07:43] <Rossimo> i'll let you know when i get a template up
[11:07:53] <Rossimo> also, have you made a decision about attending the CLUG meeting?
[11:17:33] <drmikecrowe> I found out it was in Clemson (2h+ away from home for me). I'm considering bailing....
[11:17:34] <drmikecrowe> :D
[11:18:04] <Rossimo> aww
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[13:37:02] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: ping
[13:37:07] <drmikecrowe> Hey T0mW, how's it going?
[13:37:10] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: pretty fair, busy
[13:37:17] <drmikecrowe> Understood (and much empathy!)
[13:37:20] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I took the OE from svn, then built a rather crude filesystem from that.
[13:37:27] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: there were a number of changes in your conf + bb files to make a go of it.
[13:37:46] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: mostly, I added the modules installation into the filesystem image (linux*bb)
[13:37:47] <drmikecrowe> I'd love to have it. Mostly, this is ethicalclone's work. I started, he has really helped. What changes do you anticipate?
[13:37:56] <drmikecrowe> BTW, should I grant you write access to the SVN so you can directly update?
[13:38:06] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: well, mostly the changes were in the conf files. e.g. MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER, MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS
[13:38:16] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: That's very cool. If you want to email them to me, I can incorporate and update in SVN
[13:38:17] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: you can, I think that there is a boatload of bb files that will have to be customized for the z2
[13:38:31] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: In what way (meaning what's the item that causes it to be different)?
[13:38:42] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I use a separate bb directory (IOW zipitZ2BBfiles/) to hold the bb files specific to any one project, then local.conf points to that dir and gives them preference over the org.openembedded.dev/packages ones.
[13:38:56] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: Could we add those to the SVN tree so that all the updates we make can be checked out easily?
[13:39:03] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: from what I've found from doing about four projects in OE has been mostly /etc dir stuff, but there can be others. For example, I don't like to put the bb for the linux kernel into the packages dir.
[13:39:11] <T0mW> I prefer to keep any changes that I do out of that dir and put it into a separate tree.
[13:39:17] <T0mW> sometimes the OE database (up at oe.org) gets borked
[13:39:31] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: yes, that's the idea
[13:39:44] <drmikecrowe> Very good. Can I grant you SVN write access?
[13:39:57] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: this is how it setup my OE for various projects: http://rafb.net/p/h32vyx47.html
[13:40:01] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: yes, SVN write would be a good thing
[13:46:46] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: Very nice, I like that
[13:46:54] <T0mW> the *-machine.conf and *-distro.conf files are symlinked in org.openembedded.dev/conf/{distro,machine} as needed. I don't store them in the database, but under build/conf
[13:47:05] <drmikecrowe> makes more sense
[13:47:15] <T0mW> http://rafb.net/p/cFsYBk48.html
[13:47:17] <drmikecrowe> I also have updated lua 5.1, lua-gtk files, etc. that I want to review (I had it working on my palm ARM test setup, but need to compile and test here)
[13:47:24] <drmikecrowe> I see...
[13:47:33] <T0mW> then the tmp dirs are named specfic to the project. That way, when you change projects, you don't have to blow away the old tmp dir and rebuild over again. Just pickup where you left off.
[13:47:44] <T0mW> the local-*.conf tells bitbake which TMPDIR to sue
[13:47:46] <T0mW> s/sue/use/
[13:48:58] <T0mW> I assume that the fatfs root is to be freely distributed?
[13:49:11] <T0mW> IOW, we can distro this stuff as we go along to non-developers to play with on their personal Z2s
[13:49:40] <T0mW> BTW, who wrote that backflip in the fatfs ???
[13:49:50] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: over here
[13:49:53] <drmikecrowe> backflip? The fb driver?
[13:54:53] <T0mW> naw, the busybox z2script to boot the OE filesystem from SD
[13:55:38] <T0mW> z2script.sh, take.sh, and restart.sh stuff
[13:55:57] <drmikecrowe> z2script.sh is ours, take.sh, restart.sh is somebody elses (IIRC). Interesting, I guess our method of posting made it appear closed source. I agree with you, it should not be restricted.
[13:55:59] <drmikecrowe> Let me get approval and see if I can update that.
[13:56:45] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: I take my hat off to whoever wrote that backflip, that is some interesting code that I've never thought of
[13:56:57] <drmikecrowe> Yeah, it's pretty cool. Did you get a chance to see the audio stuff I posted this morning?
[14:05:35] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: naw, been too busy. alsa always stumped me anyway, that and cups/lpr
[14:05:46] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: cups, what a beast. The non-standard standard.
[14:14:15] <T0mW> drmikecrowe: svn keeps asking for my username + password, maybe I'm not doing this right?
[14:14:28] <T0mW> svn --username XXXX --password XXXX zipitZ2BBfiles http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded
[14:14:29] <drmikecrowe> T0mW: let me check -- I didn't think I needed to restart
[14:14:37] <T0mW> doh
[14:14:42] <T0mW> svn --username XXXX --password XXXX import zipitZ2BBfiles http://linux.zipitwireless.com/svn/zipitforge/openembedded
[14:14:47] <drmikecrowe> right
[14:14:49] <T0mW> won't work
[14:17:25] <drmikecrowe> ok, 1s
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[15:08:51] <Magon> ethicalclone: are you around?
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[16:36:45] <dare2dreamer> I've been reading the irc logs for a while, and I saw someone mentioned bundling up all the fatroot/sd stuff as a distro for non-dev's. I'm not much of a coder, but I'm wanting to help this project grow. If you get to a point where we have a common base to start triaging bugs on, perhaps some of the more savvy but less technical folks would be able to lend a hand?
[16:49:05] <ethicalclone> drmikecrowe: I wrote the all sh files in fatroot.zip
[16:59:08] <T0mW> ethicalclone: you did that?
[16:59:35] <ethicalclone> Yes
[16:59:41] * T0mW doffs his fedora and bows to ethicalclone
[16:59:53] <T0mW> heh, pretty cool "backflip" to get it into the new fs
[17:05:44] <T0mW> I'm at the point where I'm trying to get it to use the Wifi. iwlist scanning does see my AP, but...
[17:06:09] <T0mW> must be something whacked in the busybox udhcp stff
[17:06:13] <T0mW> s/stff/stuff/
[17:06:39] <T0mW> the gspi modules are in there when OE boots
[17:07:30] <GPSFan> T0mW: is "backflib" your term or am I missing seeing a script?
[17:07:30] <GPSFan> baclflip
[17:07:48] <ethicalclone> T0mW: Are you using WPA or WEP?
[17:08:19] <T0mW> GPSFan: well, that whole way that the z2script, take and restart scripts seize control of the system and then chroot into booting the sd card.
[17:08:34] <T0mW> ethicalclone: neither, it is an open AP
[17:08:55] <GPSFan> T0mW: ah, I thought there might be something else.
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[17:33:59] <T0mW> YAAAAY! I have a network connection!
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