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[07:43:56] <drmikecrowe> hey Crofton, were you following Rossimo's success yesterday?
[07:44:05] <Crofton> no, I have accidentally got some paid work :)
[07:44:09] <drmikecrowe> lol -- you can see the logs on the wiki
[07:44:15] <drmikecrowe> he got a sdl program working
[07:44:15] <Crofton> what is the url again?
[07:44:17] <drmikecrowe> linux.zipitwireless.com
[07:44:19] <drmikecrowe> it's in the top-right part of the trac menu
[07:44:29] <drmikecrowe> I don't see a basic SDL port in OE
[07:44:30] <Crofton> hmm
[07:44:33] <drmikecrowe> It appears to want to compile X too
[07:44:41] <drmikecrowe> I'm waiting for Rossimo to wake up wo ask some questions
[07:44:45] <Crofton> libsdl?
[07:44:51] <drmikecrowe> That's what I was wondering.
[07:44:57] <Crofton> sadly, I do not do much with screens
[07:52:05] <drmikecrowe> np. I'll pulse him and ethicalclone when they get around
[09:03:22] <Rossimo> drmikecrowe: hey
[09:03:33] <drmikecrowe> hey Rossimo! good morning
[09:03:45] <drmikecrowe> I'm just finishing setting up forums on the trac site. Put a forum there on the SDL so I can post your link there.
[09:04:13] <Rossimo> ok
[09:04:21] <drmikecrowe> question for you: where did you start on libSDL? I am looking through some OE stuff, and it looks like OE support xfbdev
[09:04:28] <drmikecrowe> I was thinking of trying both
[09:04:43] <Rossimo> where do i start? what exactly do you mean? sry, i just woke up
[09:05:00] <Rossimo> did i start? oh
[09:11:16] <Rossimo> all i did was just display a graphic on the screen, thats it basically
[09:11:17] <drmikecrowe> np -- in my distribution, I don't have -lSDL. I need to get the SDL static library compiled.
[09:11:28] <drmikecrowe> (I think). Or, go the xfbdev route and see if I can get it running.
[09:12:10] <Rossimo> well, with scratchbox, i just statically compiled it, then "installed" in the sandbox, and copied the headers in the sandboxes /usr/include
[09:12:27] <Rossimo> and where are the forums, exactly?
[09:13:12] <drmikecrowe> http://linux.zipitwireless.com/discussion
[09:13:19] <drmikecrowe> I'm not sure how much I like these, but they are the supported ones for trac.
[09:13:33] <Rossimo> 403 Forbidden (DISCUSSION_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation)
[09:14:07] <Rossimo> i gotta take a shower, bbl
[09:23:41] <Rossimo> i guess those forums will work
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[09:34:57] <Rossimo> gotta head to work, bbl
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[09:42:15] <drmikecrowe> hey Crofton
[09:52:31] <Crofton> pong
[10:01:23] <drmikecrowe> Question: are you getting emails about new forum topics? I'm trying to see if it's just me as admin that gets notified.
[10:01:31] <drmikecrowe> (new forum topics on the linux.zipitwireless.com forums I added this morning)
[10:01:50] <Crofton> urg, I ahven't signed up
[10:02:05] <drmikecrowe> ah, nevermind. That's where the email would be assigned.
[10:02:05] <Crofton> yeah
[10:03:34] <Crofton> ok, I am registered
[10:23:45] <drmikecrowe> Crofton: Here's where I'm gathering the stuff I"m trying: http://linux.zipitwireless.com/wiki/OpenEmbedded
[10:23:58] <drmikecrowe> It is not ready for prime-time. I'm building the hello-world now. Can you see if I've configured anything awry?
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[10:39:40] <Crofton> I'll try
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[16:16:39] <drmikecrowe> Hey folks, OE builds a bunch of libraries with symlinks (just like on a standard linux system). It appears that vfat won't handle symlinks. What's a strategy for handling this?
[16:17:47] <ethicalclone> The zipit should be able mount a ext2 file system, but I have not tested that.
[16:26:11] <drmikecrowe> I think it's because my sdcard is formatted as vfat.
[16:26:31] <ethicalclone> I just test it, ext2 is not mounted on boot, and no z2script.sh run
[16:26:53] <drmikecrowe> k
[16:27:24] <ethicalclone> a loop device could
[16:27:26] <ethicalclone> fix the problem
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[16:59:23] <drmikecrowe> I wonder if it would mount it if were jffs2?
[17:04:41] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe: you could re-format your sd card to have a vfat partition with z2script.sh in it and an ext2 partition with the libs etc. which you could then mount after bootup
[17:04:54] <drmikecrowe> ah, good point. I was thinking all or nothing.
[17:06:04] <drmikecrowe> I have this system that OE built, and I'm trying to think how to get it onto the SD card.
[17:06:29] <GPSFan> does the z2 kernel have nfs or if not you could build the modules and mount your stuff via nfs.
[17:06:41] <GPSFan> I did that a lot with the Z1
[17:07:29] <ethicalclone> it does have nfs support built-in
[17:08:25] <GPSFan> mount -t nfs -o nolock 192.168.0.xyz:/mydir /mnt/nfs
[17:08:34] <GPSFan> of course your xyz machine has to support it and you have to create /mnt/nfs first
[17:09:47] <drmikecrowe> man, every time I fdisk my SD card and try to partition, it wipes it out next insert.
[17:16:44] <ethicalclone> did you write the table before exiting?
[17:17:53] <ethicalclone> GPSFan: the directory /mnt/nfs is already on the stock zipit :)
[17:18:23] <GPSFan> ethicalclone: I didn't look...;>)
[17:18:36] <drmikecrowe> yes, I wrote it. Got this error:
[17:18:36] <drmikecrowe> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[17:19:24] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe: what's your fdisk command line, and what size is your sd card
[17:19:34] <drmikecrowe> fdisk /dev/sdb1 & 1G
[17:19:37] <drmikecrowe> hmm, should it have been /dev/sdb?
[17:19:38] <GPSFan> use sdb not sdb1
[17:19:39] <drmikecrowe> yeah, doh
[17:25:52] <drmikecrowe> so, make a vfat XXX megs and the remaining ext2?
[17:26:02] <drmikecrowe> wonder how big -- I guess the vfat could be pretty small, then mount the ext2 as / ?
[17:26:09] <GPSFan> vfat should be the first partition. try xxx = 1/4 the size of the card
[17:26:14] <drmikecrowe> k
[17:26:22] <GPSFan> mount the ext as something other than / or "bad things (tm)" will happen
[17:26:24] <ethicalclone> I would mount the ext2 to someplace in /mnt, then chroot to it
[17:27:01] <drmikecrowe> cool, now I have both
[17:38:34] <drmikecrowe> ok gurus, I need some help. OE can build a ton of packages, and I just had it build several.
[17:38:36] <drmikecrowe> have a look at this: http://zipit.pastebin.com/d1bad8f9f These are all the files created by OE for several files (I tried to build a file called diet-x11 and directfb, not sure how they relate
[17:38:59] <drmikecrowe> I'm curious how to take these executables and combine with the framebuffer stuff Rossimo and ethicalclone have done.
[17:39:45] <drmikecrowe> BTW, here's all the packages I compiled (just for grins):
[17:39:57] <drmikecrowe> http://zipit.pastebin.com/d1c0ef7bb
[17:44:17] <drmikecrowe> I'm trying to think if this is useful or not (I basically configured what I thought might be a base system and let OE build itself)
[17:44:44] <GPSFan> drmikecrowe: how big is all that stuff listed in the pastebin?
[17:46:33] <drmikecrowe> 107M, but there's lots of /usr/share files and /usr/include. I haven't culled it yet
[17:46:43] <drmikecrowe> What would be cool is to do a "bitbake xterm" and copy xterm.ipk to the minisd card.
[17:48:08] <GPSFan> that' sa bit more than you need for a minimal X11 system. I don't use OE. I never got up the learning curve. T0mW had OE building stuff for the Z1, I tried to duplicate his efforts and ran into some strange OE configuration/version issues that I could never figure out. I've only built X11 for one embedded system before, it was too slow to use.
[17:48:20] <GPSFan> bbl...
[17:49:11] <drmikecrowe> me too -- dinner
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